Re: [AFMUG] wireless router video

2014-12-30 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Any router, one OS: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices -- bp On 12/30/2014 5:35 PM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote: I have tried to upgrade a few customer’s older Linksys routers recently only to find firmware is no longer available on the site. You know, just trying to be ni

Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed?

2014-12-30 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Am I missing something here? On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMBXhDcogcI *From:* Bill Prince via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 5:50 PM *To:* af@afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] test

2014-12-30 Thread Bill Prince via Af
This is ground control to major Tom. -- bp On 12/30/2014 6:23 PM, Jerry Head via Af wrote: Can you hear me Major Tom?

Re: [AFMUG] wireless router video

2014-12-30 Thread Bill Prince via Af
You should still be able to get a decent copy of DDWRT. Plan old Linux, and it works on many flavors of hardware. -- bp On 12/30/2014 5:35 PM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote: I have tried to upgrade a few customer’s older Linksys routers recently only to find firmware is no longer available on t

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer

2014-12-30 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I run that on my Android. Works pretty well. I've used it at a couple clients where they had too much WiFi on the same channel. It picks up both 2.4 and 5.8, but it's WiFi only. -- bp On 12/30/2014 2:05 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af wrote: Just put this app on a cheap nook table

Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed?

2014-12-30 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I heard them whisper about feeling sorry for you. -- bp On 12/30/2014 12:50 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: I could try, but they are all over 18 and some of them outweigh me. (I do have boxing gloves, hard to get them to spar with me for some reason. Fear, pity, respect, apathy?) *From:* Th

Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon

2014-12-30 Thread Bill Prince via Af
maybe for you. I am too much a pagan. -- bp On 12/30/2014 11:15 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: Did this make us like Jesus? On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: it was simon westl_*A*_ke before josh l*_U_*thman. Amazon does

Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon

2014-12-30 Thread Bill Prince via Af
it was simon westl_*A*_ke before josh l*_U_*thman. Amazon does it their way. -- bp On 12/30/2014 10:53 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: W comes before L? Blasphemy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:49 PM, "Simo

Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon

2014-12-30 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Mine was the same. Got it at 10:30 AM Pacific time. -- bp On 12/30/2014 10:15 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af wrote: My verification subject was: Amazon SES Address Verification Request in region US East (N. Virginia) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Curtis Brotherton via Af mailto:a

Re: [AFMUG] sneaky sob...

2014-12-30 Thread Bill Prince via Af
What state are you in Robert? That does not look like a viper. -- bp On 12/30/2014 8:05 AM, Robert Haas via Af wrote: This sneaky critter decided to drop into my hand hole while doing inspections for some upcoming fiber plant work. I opened the HH, went back to my van to grab my notebook, r

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
so far no :-( -- bp On 12/29/2014 2:20 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: :-( but no fsk? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: 13.2.1 on PMP450/430. -- bp On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: th

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

2014-12-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
13.2.1 on PMP450/430. -- bp On 12/29/2014 2:09 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: they have a downloadable config file? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af > wrote: It took 10+ years to get downloadable configuration file. Everything they do (or d

Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help

2014-12-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Try this: http://mashable.com/2013/10/23/clean-install-os-x-mavericks/ -- bp On 12/29/2014 11:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is ther

Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling

2014-12-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Poll for data, use traps for "emergencies" or unusual events that you don't want to wait around for. Belt and suspenders I guess. Poll to collect all your data; historical and otherwise. Use traps for alert situations. Important caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad thin

Re: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK

2014-12-27 Thread Bill Prince via Af
AT&T calls theirs a microcell, Verizon calls theirs a network extender, Sprint calls theirs airave. The generic, non-vendor-specific term is femtocell. -- bp On 12/27/2014 7:25 AM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: They are branded as "Microcells." I have one at my house. On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 7:

Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
fine. Forget the IR thing. Not needed. Good day time image is what people will want to look at I think. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 5:46 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
What kind of distance are you talking about? Critical issue if you wanted IR, because there are serious limitations on how far you will get decent video with IR (no greater than 100', and that might be a stretch). But the distance would dictate what kind of magnification/lenses are required.

[AFMUG] Lease options

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Saw the ad from Ritalia a couple weeks back, and it may suit our purposes to get some extra equipment in the air sooner than our more typical pay-from-cash-flow model. Has anyone worked with these folks or have other leasing companies that they like better? What is the metric on what we shoul

Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I never log into FB either. I've never created an account; kind solves several problems at one time. Don't know what happened to Doug. Maybe that little scare he had a couple years ago caused him to change religion -- bp On 12/26/2014 12:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: So, for som

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Do a traceroute and see where it goes off the rails. -- bp On 12/26/2014 12:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote: Ip-routes says everything is reachable On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, "Colin Stanners via Af" > wrote: Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your d

Re: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
It's a known issue. I think the problem is fragmented packets, but don't quote me on that. It's fixed in 13.2, but that's only available on 430/450 PMP platforms. I don't think it is on 13.1.2,. which (I think) is the last release for FSK. Too bad, because there are several little niggling f

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
That can't be right; they all have teeth! -- bp On 12/26/2014 9:51 AM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote: Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their first mistake but possibly one of the worst.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Possibly delayed until a later release? I know that on Canopy, the management interface and the public IP in NAT mode are completely different TCP stacks. I'm not sure that's possible (easily) on a platform like ePMP. -- bp On 12/26/2014 8:46 AM, Wireless Admin via Af wrote: Has anyone f

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
all the way through... *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill Prince via Af [af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 10:34 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review That was extremely diff

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
price back and ensures they stay relevant. The low oil price also punishes a variety of political enemies - Russia, ISIS, Iran, and a couple of South American countries. The low price won't last, but it's nice for a while and plays into a number of political battles. Mar

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
That was extremely difficult for me to read... -- bp On 12/26/2014 3:17 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: *DPRK Will Not Tolerate "Human Rights" Racket of US and Its Allies* /The National Defence Commission of the DPRK issued the following statement on November 23:/ We have already seriously

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down?

2014-12-25 Thread Bill Prince via Af
blem Christmas morning. On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Bill Prince via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Let the conspiracy theories begin! -- bp On 12/25/2014 10:54 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: https://gigaom.com/2014/12/25/scrooges-strike-xbox-live-playstation-network-hacked-outage/

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down?

2014-12-25 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Let the conspiracy theories begin! -- bp On 12/25/2014 10:54 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: https://gigaom.com/2014/12/25/scrooges-strike-xbox-live-playstation-network-hacked-outage/

Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin

2014-12-25 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Now you've done it. You've ticked off Rory. Watch out, he'll probably team up with Steve and go on a revenge mission. -- bp On 12/25/2014 9:03 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Seriously, Linked in sends me these random “Endorse Rory Conaway for his knowledge of the mating habits of the North

Re: [AFMUG] Lower signal on one end of PTP link

2014-12-24 Thread Bill Prince via Af
If I were you, I'd go to the easy one and try to align it a little better. If it doesn't fix it, then nothing major lost. Ours all seem to be within a db or so (BTW). -- bp On 12/24/2014 4:57 PM, Bruce Robertson via Af wrote: It would sure be spiffy if it's the lower signal one, because that

Re: [AFMUG] Is this what a dDOS attack looks like?

2014-12-24 Thread Bill Prince via Af
semination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.* *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 11:14 AM *To:* Motorola III *Subject:* [AFMUG] Is this w

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

2014-12-24 Thread Bill Prince via Af
r a while and plays into a number of political battles. Mark On 12/24/14 10:58 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Wonder what the play is there. How long will gas prices stay this low? And how low will they go? Saudi Arabia is in the drivers seat for now. Russia and a few of the OPEC nations are

[AFMUG] Is this what a dDOS attack looks like?

2014-12-24 Thread Bill Prince via Af
One of our routers showed a massive increase in traffic last night around 19:15 Pacific time (see below). It didn't crash, but got super busy during that time, and appeared to be "locked up". Nothing shows in the logs, but a segment of our network appeared to be unavailable for a few minutes

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

2014-12-24 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Wonder what the play is there. How long will gas prices stay this low? And how low will they go? Saudi Arabia is in the drivers seat for now. Russia and a few of the OPEC nations are getting it in the shorts. Someone will blink. I'm betting that gas will turn around in 3-6 months. -- bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

2014-12-24 Thread Bill Prince via Af
yes you can. It is a commodity. Watch out for the /*Flash Boys*/ (http://michaellewiswrites.com/index.html#flash-boys). -- bp On 12/24/2014 7:10 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: I wonder if you can purchase gasoline futures? *From:* Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Wednesday

Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down....

2014-12-23 Thread Bill Prince via Af
We've seen at least a couple of the port 1900 attacks. I also notice that there are fresh ntp updates in CentOS. -- bp On 12/22/2014 7:36 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I read somewhere, I think maybe Ars, that the DDoS attack has been going on for several days and is using primarily NTP and SS

Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down....

2014-12-22 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I have doubts that we had anything to do with it. They were just saying on PBS that the whole country has something like a /22 (1000 IP addresses), and they all go through China. My personal opinion is that it's all under China's control, and they would be happy if the rest of the world came

Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

2014-12-21 Thread Bill Prince via Af
ia Af wrote: You're not factoring in battery consumption :). I had both, trust me it is double. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 21, 2014 1:29 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote

Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

2014-12-21 Thread Bill Prince via Af
ump up to the Droid Maxx. Double the battery. Screen is a lot bigger, though :/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 21, 2014 1:08 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: My Android

Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

2014-12-21 Thread Bill Prince via Af
My Android fits in either front or back pocket. It's large with a ~~ 5" (slightly less) screen. The kevlar back seems to make it very sturdy, and I love the long battery life. DROID RAZR MAXX HD. -- bp On 12/21/2014 7:30 AM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote: Mike, The only guys I know that use

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack

2014-12-20 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Maybe it is a plot perpetrated by Sony to cut out the theaters. The demand for the "banned movie" will be off the charts, because everyone will want to see what they've been censored from. Pay per view, or video on demand, or even DVD/blue ray all seem viable to me. Will take a movie that m

Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

2014-12-20 Thread Bill Prince via Af
In the words of a CNET editor that I heard once, "There are almost no 'bad' phones anymore." Once Android got up to Jelly Bean, the feature sets were pretty equal. G and I like our Android phones. But if I were you, I'd probably try to homogenize your ecosystem. Unless you have family memb

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..

2014-12-19 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I had to look at their web site to remind me what's going on there. They don't use 4 polarities, they use 2. They're not running 4x4 MIMO, they're running 2x2 MIMO X 2. So they use two radios at each end, and two separate channels. -- bp On 12/19/2014 2:32 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..

2014-12-19 Thread Bill Prince via Af
4 circular polarization variants? I thought there were really 2 circular, plus 2 linear? -- bp On 12/19/2014 2:32 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: So anyone who did the beta on these want to do a writeup for the list? Is the 4x4 all different circular polarization variants? Kinda looks like

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 450 question

2014-12-19 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Should work. PTP450 radios are the same form factor as PMP450 radios (and PMP430 and PTP230, etc.) -- bp On 12/19/2014 2:05 PM, Jerry Head via Af wrote: Please forgive me if this has been rehashed 1000 times, but I am going to ask anyway. I have a 5Ghz ptp 230 link using WBMFG RCL-1 reflect

Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber 5 experiences - good/bad/ugly

2014-12-19 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Ouch. So instead of using 1 amp at 48VDC, you need 2 amps at 24VDC. Just for that one radio. We've got sites with 4 radios using 1/2 the power of one AF. -- bp On 12/19/2014 12:51 PM, Sean Heskett via Af wrote: the solar battery bank is a 24V system so we have an DC-DC inverter that provi

Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber 5 experiences - good/bad/ugly

2014-12-19 Thread Bill Prince via Af
All the radios we use, regardless of manufacturer run on DC. They might all use different voltages/polarities, but as far as I know, they are all DC. Both the AF5 and AF24 are power hogs, and use ~~ 50 watts. That means the power has to be distributed over all 8 wires (to avoid overloading

Re: [AFMUG] The PG&E smart meter takeover of 900Mhz band, now in Tmobile 5ghz band style

2014-12-19 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Given the power restrictions and the limited antenna options available in handsets, these will be very small cells. OTOH, if it means that there will be commodity-priced LTE chipsets that can operate in the 5 GHz band, then it might actually be a benefit for fixed wireless operators. -- bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack

2014-12-19 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Interesting theory. But... I feel that internet access in NK is so poor, that it almost defies logic that someone from inside NK actually pulled this off. I heard one white-hat guy saying there is only one pipe in; and it's not that big of a pipe to begin with. I think there is "probably"

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

2014-12-19 Thread Bill Prince via Af
They are the addicts. We are the pushers. I know addict behavior when I see it. -- bp On 12/19/2014 8:43 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Because it’s hard to see the big picture and move a business forward if you hate customers because they are such needy jerks, not to mention liars and deadb

Re: [AFMUG] MT reboot

2014-12-19 Thread Bill Prince via Af
5.26 is our current "standard" on X86 MT routers. Run times are very high with no reboots. You might just stick a buffer router in between the DVR and this troubled router. Or find a different DVR or change the configuration on the DVR. I presume the reboots stop when the DVR is not connec

Re: [AFMUG] PTP450 Antenna Options

2014-12-18 Thread Bill Prince via Af
...or compared to a WB dish with a focus ring. We recently installed a connectorized PTP450 link using a pair of 28 dbi MTI panels. These are not small; approximately 60 cm (2 feet). Note that the master unit has a max. power output of 19 dbm. The slave can go 22 dbm. -- bp On 12/18/201

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX

2014-12-18 Thread Bill Prince via Af
510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince via Af *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:11 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX Are you all talking about the 1200FX or one of the oth

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX

2014-12-18 Thread Bill Prince via Af
edltd.com> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince via Af *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:04 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX Not even close to an AF24 in terms of price.� Requested a quote for a 2 mile link, and this is what I go

Re: [AFMUG] icmp redirects

2014-12-18 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Sorry for the hijack, but is there any way to get the new listserve to ignore double spaces? Or is this something the new listadmin put in to slap the back of our hands when we put in too many spaces? -- bp On 12/18/2014 9:55 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: I think what

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX

2014-12-18 Thread Bill Prince via Af
r/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince via Af *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:04 AM *

Re: [AFMUG] rooftop weight study?

2014-12-18 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Concrete blocks are 8x16, which is 128 square inches, or about 0.9 square feet. The blocks I've weighed are closer to 35 lbs. (they used to be closer to 40 lbs., so maybe they aren't as "robust" as they used to be?). Dunno. At any rate, each block is going to be close to 39 lbs. per square f

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

2014-12-18 Thread Bill Prince via Af
"best features" of the canopy platform in my book. It annoys me working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd something like an IP or vlan. On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> w

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX

2014-12-18 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Not even close to an AF24 in terms of price. Requested a quote for a 2 mile link, and this is what I got. Radios alone are double an AF24, there is extra cost for the antennas, plus extra for speed keys, AES, blah blah blah. Bottom line is that you can install 4 AF24 links for one of these.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

2014-12-17 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Me too. I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than I have finger to count on. -- bp On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: No, rather just have it. On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Rather have it and not need it then nee

Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives

2014-12-17 Thread Bill Prince via Af
-- bp On 12/17/2014 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Huh??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: We don't offer email. Never have

Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives

2014-12-17 Thread Bill Prince via Af
We don't offer email. Never have. None the less we get a lot of support calls about email. -- bp On 12/17/2014 12:53 PM, SmarterBroadband via Af wrote: We are the same, however we have a lot of emails from the past. We are also thinking of dropping email. Too many of our help desk calls

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX

2014-12-17 Thread Bill Prince via Af
We are? Maybe we were. -- bp On 12/17/2014 12:15 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: You are all communists.. >You are right. >You are? > you're

Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives

2014-12-17 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I would need 3 of those for one email account. -- bp On 12/17/2014 11:32 AM, SmarterBroadband via Af wrote: Yea, 3Gig for 1000 boxes would never work for us. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Lambie via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:21 AM *To:* af@afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX

2014-12-17 Thread Bill Prince via Af
You are? -- bp On 12/17/2014 11:12 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: you're Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Peter Kranz via Af > wrote: Your right.. Over optimistic J

Re: [AFMUG] 5.8GHZ Canopy 450 Omni

2014-12-16 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Omni Date: Tue, Dec 16, 2014 6:31 PM Is that with a bare sm? Bill Prince via Af wrote: > Interesting. We put a 2.4 GHz 450 on an omni, and we're getting -62 > at 1.8 miles not to mention 8X/8X operation). > > -- > bp > > > On 12/16/2014 11:40 AM, Jay Weekley via

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX

2014-12-16 Thread Bill Prince via Af
That's a major plus in my book. Extremely onerous running 50 watts on a solar site. -- bp On 12/16/2014 7:19 PM, Carl Peterson via Af wrote: Actual power draw on a 1200TL is less then half of what an AF24 draws.

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX

2014-12-16 Thread Bill Prince via Af
According to the spec sheet, the are 71-76/81-86GHz, FDD. I wonder what kind of realistic range they might have, and how much power they consume (50 watts like an AF24/AF5)? -- bp On 12/16/2014 5:39 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: What freqs? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spit

Re: [AFMUG] 5.8GHZ Canopy 450 Omni

2014-12-16 Thread Bill Prince via Af
em up to 8X/8X. More efficient. -- bp On 12/16/2014 4:31 PM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote: Is that with a bare sm? Bill Prince via Af wrote: Interesting. We put a 2.4 GHz 450 on an omni, and we're getting -62 at 1.8 miles not to mention 8X/8X operation). -- bp On 12/16/2014 11:40 AM, Jay

Re: [AFMUG] 5.8GHZ Canopy 450 Omni

2014-12-16 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Interesting. We put a 2.4 GHz 450 on an omni, and we're getting -62 at 1.8 miles not to mention 8X/8X operation). -- bp On 12/16/2014 11:40 AM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote: Our experience with the 3.65 GHz 450 AP on an omni was underwhelming. About -73 at 1 mile line of site. Matt via Af wro

Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS

2014-12-16 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I like the Cordex better because of the DIN mount. Both of these are much larger than what we need in several places. Some of the sites we need only about 20 watts; so something in less than 100 watt capability would be ideal. -- bp On 12/16/2014 9:41 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote: C

Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS

2014-12-16 Thread Bill Prince via Af
The ICT units look pretty good except that they're 19" rack design. I'm looking for things that are more compact, and preferably DIN rail mount. -- bp On 12/16/2014 8:32 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote: We got a few of the Alpha units and were not impressed with them. The web GUI is IE

Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS

2014-12-16 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Not yet. I've found NewMar, Sola, Allied, and a coupe others so far. -- bp On 12/16/2014 8:39 AM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: Have you looked at the Traco chargers and power supplies? On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Bill Prince via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: We

Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications

2014-12-16 Thread Bill Prince via Af
It works, but it's dog-snot slow. If there are a lot of stations in your search, it is even slower. -- bp On 12/16/2014 8:42 AM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote: Can anyone get the geo search working at the FCC ULS site? I can’t get it to find any links anywhere. What am I doing wrong? http://wir

Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff

2014-12-16 Thread Bill Prince via Af
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more "involved". And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that do

[AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS

2014-12-16 Thread Bill Prince via Af
We just had a bad experience with a battery charger/battery backup that did not work as expected. We're looking at this right now: https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=516011 What we like about this is that it has separate connections for battery & load, and also doe

Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications

2014-12-16 Thread Bill Prince via Af
ng to be sitting there on the towers doing nothing in a few years. On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in the same county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter

Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications

2014-12-15 Thread Bill Prince via Af
We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in the same county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter them all to a PCN folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox. You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same frequency with one of your lic

Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable

2014-12-15 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Or were rescued from trucks by concerned citizens -- bp On 12/15/2014 7:27 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: we ended up getting our mule tape off ebay, drastically lower cost when you buy things that fell of trucks On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)

2014-12-13 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I used to work with a guy named Lyle Head. When he & his wife had a son, they named him, no kidding, Fred Head. -- bp On 12/13/2014 1:58 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: But I really have a customer D. Cline, and his card really was declined, otherwise it wouldn’t be all that amusing. There’s no

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)

2014-12-13 Thread Bill Prince via Af
We have that same guy. Except that his card didn't decline. -- bp On 12/13/2014 11:15 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I have a customer D. Cline whose credit card was declined. Oh, and note that today 12/13/14 is the last sequential date of the 21st century.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.3.3 available now

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I just love it when they don't explode. -- bp On 12/12/2014 3:22 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Well, my bench radio didn't explode, so I guess I'll update the others. On 12/12/2014 10:09 AM, Sakid Ahmed via Af wrote: ePMP Release 2.3.3 is now posted on the Cambium sup

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I ran some tests on IE and Chrome. They are within a couple percent of each other as far as I can see. -- bp On 12/12/2014 10:20 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: I'm not sure what is going on, but recently I've noticed Ookla has changed speedtest.net so it works a lot better with IE. And

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Doesn't the light rail go out to the airport now (which goes right by the fairgrounds)? -- bp On 12/12/2014 11:31 AM, Bruce Robertson via Af wrote: It's just 15 minutes walk in a north-east direction from the Shiloh. On 12/12/2014 11:28 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: You talking about downtown

Re: [AFMUG] Is 13.2 ready for prime time?

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
We're now running 13.2 on all our PMP450 installations. No troubles. In fact, it's fixed most of the issues we've had. The only thing right now that would be better than 13.2 would be 13.3 (because it will have a text-based config file (YEAH!)). The addition of an up-to 8K NAT table is nice

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Last time I was in SLC, and walking the sidewalk in February, the biggest issue was being able to breath. SLC is in a basin, and they often are in a thermal inversion at that time of year. All the smog settles in around downtown. Sure it's colder than Miami, but not like International Falls

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
no attachment... -- bp On 12/12/2014 10:20 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: I'm not sure what is going on, but recently I've noticed Ookla has changed speedtest.net so it works a lot better with IE. And it USED to work just fine with Chrome, but they changed something in the past month.

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
More like 4095QAM. Close to LTE bits/Hz numbers of ~~ 16. Modulation Method:OFDM Occupied Bandwidth: 5.57 MHz Transmission Frequency: 671.142857 MHz (UHF 46ch) Transmission Power Horizontal polarization: 10 W

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I wouldn't exactly call a 10 mile link in 11 GHz a short link. We have a similar link (almost exactly the same distance and same size dishes). You may have gotten lucky. We got ours close enough that we knew we weren't on side lobes, but if the signal level is per spec, you got it done. --

Re: [AFMUG] Rick gone

2014-12-11 Thread Bill Prince via Af
who's ED? -- bp On 12/11/2014 8:17 AM, Jason Petrillo via Af wrote: Do they work? *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:09 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rick gone They make pills for ED... *From:*Ken

Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazonstreaming4Know.

2014-12-11 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I've never seen a recliner toilet... and you got 9 of 'em? -- bp On 12/11/2014 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: 24 holer, for your best buddies... -Original Message----- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 9:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [A

Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazonstreaming4Know.

2014-12-11 Thread Bill Prince via Af
That is some swank bathroom. -- bp On 12/11/2014 7:59 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: I can seat 24 easily. I have 9 recliner couches on stadium seating. Nice room for the Superbowl. I do need a 4 K projector I think...

Re: [AFMUG] price war? what price war?

2014-12-11 Thread Bill Prince via Af
We just got an unsolicited offer from VZ to reduce our (2-phone) monthly by $30. We are non-contract, so this may be some sort of preemptive thing on their part. -- bp On 12/11/2014 12:50 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: We've seen at several WISPA conferneces presentations that basically

Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..

2014-12-10 Thread Bill Prince via Af
So what is the "lite" appendage signify? Lite processor, lite weight, lite color, lite something else? -- bp On 12/10/2014 1:06 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: In our test bed we have tried both the –Lite and the AirPrism versions of the hardware.. I was impressed with how well the –lite did i

Re: [AFMUG] simulating interference

2014-12-10 Thread Bill Prince via Af
You could probably rig up a frequency generator with a sweep function to obliterate part or all of a channel. Only problem would be controlling the amplitude. It would need some sort of adjustable amp. -- bp On 12/10/2014 2:24 PM, Ty Featherling via Af wrote: What is the easiest way to sim

Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all ourbandwidth. Amazon streaming4Know.

2014-12-10 Thread Bill Prince via Af
hen people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone would figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet for free. It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK. Travis On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Princ

Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.

2014-12-10 Thread Bill Prince via Af
>> wrote: Because then people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone would figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet for free. It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK. Travis On

Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming4Know.

2014-12-10 Thread Bill Prince via Af
mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Because then people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone would figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet for free. It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK. Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.

2014-12-09 Thread Bill Prince via Af
That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour. Why not stick in a 32GB memory and be done? That would be almost 3 hours of buffer. -- bp On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote: It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming services can't have a larg

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm List weirdness/requests

2014-12-08 Thread Bill Prince via Af
If you'd put on your loin cloth, maybe it wouldn't be so shy. -- bp On 12/8/2014 2:23 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: It won’t send me my password... *From:* Sean Heskett via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 08, 2014 3:22 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* R

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