[AsburyPark] Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread asburycouple
Any truth that bicycles are being banned on the boardwalk? I just heard this yesterday and am really amazed if this is true. For starters this has been a really great thing that makes the AP boardwalk special and I believe is one of the reasons cited as to why the boardwalk is so wide.

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread wernerapnj
Asburycouple, You are misinformed regarding this topic and making some incorrect assumptions. Bike riding has ALWAY been banned on the boardwalk except between the hours of 6am to 9am The width of the boardwalk has nothing to do with bikes or any other vehicles. The width is an aougrowth of

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread asburycouple
It appears that between your reply and the one prior to it there are different points of view on just what was allowed and what has changed... So apparently others here are both misinformed and making incorrect assumptions, too. Bottom line is that I really think this is too bad.

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that between your reply and the one prior to it there are different points of view on just what was allowed and what has changed... So apparently others here are both misinformed and making incorrect

Re: [AsburyPark] Stand Up For Asbury!

2006-07-10 Thread Allen McDaniel
If you send me emails in support of your point of view, I may as well tell you I dont necessarily think the shelter is a bad idea, but I would support a measure giving it a 'wait-and-see' approach or a temporary OK, say, for 6 mos. or so, in order to determine if they will be a good neighbor or if

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
First off, it's not a handful of cyclists. There are quite a few of us who enjoy riding on the boardwalk. I've never seen a single incident involving a pedestrian and bicyclist. I have however, seen bicyclist's have troubles with cars, particularly at night. It is absolutely absurd to think that I

[AsburyPark] Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
I recently moved to AP to a beautiful home 1 block away from Kingsley on 1st Ave. I truely love my new home, but there are several things that take place in my neighborhood that are a bit disturbing. Before I discuss this, i'm not attempting to start a fight, rather i'm trying to help solve a

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park: Haves and Have-Nots by the Sea

2006-07-10 Thread Allen McDaniel
HERE HERE!! -a --- oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can things be equalized ? Begin some more serius attempts to rebuild the West side and incorporate equal housing on the east side Article last week about how long branchtook $2m in COAH credits from Colts Neck (this is

[AsburyPark] ARM wrestling

2006-07-10 Thread theshortsalepro
Have you had a problem with an upward adjusting ARM reset? I'd like to hear from you. Please email me in confidence ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I'm preparing a formal complaint/report for those who siged up for low teaser rates...and now are sweating it out. I'm working to petition major lenders to

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread traderdube
Bikes and pedestrians on the boardwalk do not mix. It is a miracle that no one has been injured. It is a disgrace that the people in charge of Asbury's boardwalk and pavilions have done so little to enhance the boardwalk and it's pavilions to make Asbury even more attractive for tourists and

RE: [AsburyPark] Stand Up For Asbury!

2006-07-10 Thread Paul Vail
Hi Allen, Thanks for your input. Firstly, I would like to point out that we are not suing the Market Street Mission. We are appealing the variances that the zoning board issued to the Mission. The zoning board initially denied the variances that the shelter sought from the city.

[AsburyPark] trying to get rid of the casino...?

2006-07-10 Thread oakdorf
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[AsburyPark] Re: Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently moved to AP to a beautiful home 1 block away from Kingsley on 1st Ave. I truely love my new home, but there are several things that take place in my neighborhood that are a bit disturbing. Before I discuss this,

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
I'm sorry, but I disagree about the bicycles. Have you ever been to Wildwood? They have a similar boardwalk to our own, which has a dedicated bike lane. Same goes for the area in Los Angeles known as The Strand. You can't tell me that cycling and pedestrians don't mix in those places, because

[AsburyPark] Re: Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread oakdorf
Hinge, For some reason, the prositute have always worked that area, and I am going back 25 years. For some reason, they are like the great gazoo and only a select few of normal people could see 'em and they can't be arrested - or if they are , they are right back out. Maybe they are all

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The facts are what they are - Biking is prohibited except from 6am to 9am. Biking and pedestrian activities are incompatible, which is the reason for limiting bikes to certain hours. The Council is moving to extend

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
Well, i'm a bit afraid to mention this...but one thing that I observed recently was a guy who appeared to be a fireman, with fire dept. license plates and a pile of fireman equipment in his backseat pick-up one of these prostitutes right up the block from me.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
Personally, I'd just like to be able to ride my bike after dark on the boardwalk, when there's hardly anybody there to contend with. I read on here somewhere that the ban is due to some kind of gang activity, and if that's the fact then it's sad that the good guys/girls have to suffer because of a

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread oakdorf
First hand experience yesterday... I get the wife to go for a bike ride for breakfast - North to an overpriced bfast at Turining Point or to our new place, the Tidesto the Tides we go. Since we had nothing really better to do...we manged to spend $17.00 (plus tip) at the tides - and

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread oakdorf
--- I've tried posting this a couple times, so here's a breif version... I got stopped yesterday on the BW with the bike around 10:15 after eating at the tides. The special officer was nice and said that it was at their discretion, as kids were causing problems popping wheelies and running

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
I must agree that for the most part, the AP police are nice, kind and courteous. I commend them big time for that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- I've tried posting this a couple times, so here's a breif version... I got stopped yesterday on the BW

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread samlorac
I'm looking at all this from afar, and I can understand how sometimes rules have to be made in order to prevent the potentialabuse of a situation by even one person. Life is full of rules like that, and it harkens back to what is so often said by teachers in school--"It's a shame that one

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
Thank you, and I really appreciate your suggestion. Last night I got the number for the AP tipline from and AP cop, and I do intend to do what I can, but hopefully this won't dominate my AP experience. I just have a hard time looking the other way.

Re: [AsburyPark] Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread Michael W. Brim
The best way to get a handle on the prostitution in your neighborhood is to call the police. Don't call the 911 number as it takes to long. Use the direct dial number for the Asbury Park Police Department: 732-774-1033. They will respond! From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon Jul 10

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
You make some good points. I too spent quite a bit of time in Europe, mostly in Germany and Holland, and it always blew me away to see dedicated bike roads and the diversity of people using their bikes for more then recreation. I have an enduring image of a women of at least 70 returning home

[AsburyPark] Re: Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread oakdorf
---if there ever was a need for eminent domain to remove a public nuisance and blight, those bungalows at 2nd and Kingsley are it. Let's not get into a history discussion here on them. Plow 'em down. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new

[AsburyPark] Re: Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
I agree. They are also quite an eyesore. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---if there ever was a need for eminent domain to remove a public nuisance and blight, those bungalows at 2nd and Kingsley are it. Let's not get into a history discussion here on

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread samlorac
How about a separate trail altogether? __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread samlorac
Had a wacky computer moment...how about a trail that runs from town to town along the ocean. I used to walk from Asbury to Belmar. A bicycle trail would be great, where you could actually go places. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a wacky computer moment...how about a trail that runs from town to town along the ocean. I used to walk from Asbury to Belmar. A bicycle trail would be great, where you could actually go places. If I recall correctly, the

[AsburyPark] Re: Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, i'm a bit afraid to mention this...but one thing that I observed recently was a guy who appeared to be a fireman, with fire dept. license plates and a pile of fireman equipment in his backseat pick-up one of these

[AsburyPark] Re: Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
I'd like to thank everybody for participating in this topic. It's nice to see that other people care as much as I do! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Thank you, and I really appreciate your

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... You're also making an assumption about the responsibility of the cyclists by branding all of us as a potential risk. Bad assumption on your part - The risk is from the clash of pedestrians and cyclists. The elderly,

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread rabbott128
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
First off, they hours which were first retracted, and now being expanded only benefit the people who don't work for a living. I work from 9am until at least 5pm M-F. So do quite a few of us. The expansion does us no good at all. I was just at the boardwalk. There's hardly anybody there. I'm not

[AsburyPark] Join Asbury Radio Live from the Baronet Theater - July 13th

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
July 13th Join Asbury Radio Live from the Baronet Theater - Meet the Movie Man Nelson Page, of Galaxy Theaters, who'll keep the movies coming for us this summer. AP Council will vote on whether the 1920s Baronet stays or goes next Wed. 7/19. We'll interview audience members, so please

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread rabbott128
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread samlorac
I would never use a bike lane that shares the street with cars in this country. Drivers are just not aware of bikes the way that they are in Europe. In Italy, everyone shares the street, but of course, there are mostly scooters there, and few bikes. Drivers are accustomed too being aware

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a separate trail altogether? Another failure in Asbury Park's redevelopment planning. There was ample opportunity in the design phase to create a seperate dedicated bike lane between the sidewalk and and traffic/parking

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread rabbott128
LOOK WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT, DIG UP SOME OLD PHOTOS, TALK TO OLDTIMERS, USE SOME COMMON SENSE. IT'S A BOARDWALK! - BOARDWALK! - BOARDWALK! - BOARDWALK! __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread rabbott128
ALL WELL AND GOOD FOR GERMANY AND EUROPE AS A WHOLE, BUT ASK YOURSELF WHAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM HERE, AND COULD THEIR RULES OF LAW ON JUVINILE PROSECUTION BE THE REASON YOU ARE ABLE TO PERCIEVE THEIR CIVILIZED APPROACH TO BIKING. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread rabbott128
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
Well, that's a good point, and I in return ask you this. Why can't we begin to apply the same sensiblities here? They do it in Seattle and Portland Oregon. Personally, I think that we have a prime opportunity here in AP for some progressive thinking in this area. I'm saddened that bicycles

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread rabbott128
PLEASE RESPOND TO THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS. 1. DID THIS GUY (FIREMAN) HAVE A UNIFORM ON? 2. WAS THIS GUY DRIVING AN OFFICIAL VEHICLE? 3. DO YOU WEAR CORRECTIVE EYEGLASSES? __._,_.___ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from

[AsburyPark] Re: Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
1- No, but there was a uniform in his back seat 2- No, but he had FD license plates 3 - Why would it matter if I wore glasses. And please note, I was 10 feet away when I saw this. What is your point? I observed something that bothered me. And i'm trying to make a difference in my town.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
Well, I can see you are very skilled in the use of capital letters. But, what I don't get is this. You are right...it's a board WALK. And it's a great one. I love it. But go down there right now7:31 pm and you'll notice that there's very very few people walking there. It's a wide open

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
Exactly. Your's is the kind of thinking we need. I'm fully prepared to continue to be attacked about this. Bring it on. But, I just want to say one thing. I agree that bicycles aren't respected like they are in Europe. Is it impossible to change that here in the USA?

[AsburyPark] Re: Fighting Prostitution in my neighborhood

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
And just for the record, I made no mention of what town this person was a fireman in. He could've been from anytown I just know I saw what I saw in broad daylight. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1- No, but there was a uniform in his back seat 2- No,

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But go down there right now7:31 pm and you'll notice that there's very very few people walking there. It's a wide open landscape, with plenty of room for both bikes and walkers. What i'm not hearing here is any form of

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread Hinge
Werner, I both respect and appreciate your comments. I only recently moved to Asbury, and I honestly never thought of myself as being an activist of any sort. Since moving here and getting a taste of the way things happen, I found myself more and more compelled to speak my voice, and get

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner, I both respect and appreciate your comments. I only recently moved to Asbury, and I honestly never thought of myself as being an activist of any sort. This town will make you an activist or stark raving mad. BTW, I

[AsburyPark] Re: ARM wrestling

2006-07-10 Thread jerseyjohn99
LOL...thanks for the humor in the middle of some serious discussion. $3 TRILLION in ARMS are due to be reset in the next 18 months, and suddenly people are conveniently forgetting the original terms of their loans are now demanding that the mortgage companies make their investments

[AsburyPark] Re: Bikes on the Boardwalk

2006-07-10 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner, I both respect and appreciate your comments. Thank You. I only recently moved to Asbury, and I honestly never thought of myself as being an activist of any sort. Since moving here and getting a taste of the way