I don't remember there, being 2 ferris wheels. I remember 2
carousels, 1 in the Palace and 1 across the street in the Casino.
When you stated the ferris wheel should be placed in its' original
place, where was that? I only saw one, in the Palace! I noticed in
the artists' drawing, there is one
The 8th Ave beach is the surfing beach. I would be very upset if
that were made private. As much as it bothers me that it gets
crowded now, I like having the option of surfing within walking
distance of my house.
In the app.com article, the wading pool is part of the beach club:
The current
Think about it this way AP needs a full service fitness club.
The natatorium was part of AP's history... If someone could go back
to old photos and design a new building that looks like the old
natatorium, but modernizes it with a fitness club component and a
beach club component, that
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Work-Out-World (WOW) into the Sunset Ave pavili
They went to Seaview Square, across from Costco.
Werner
more room, more parking. Gyms need lots of parking. Go to WOW a seaview at 6pm.
Goof
thing lowes isn't there. Lot
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... maybe one day this will be
mootolaville, i hope not but if we give them everything that is where
we are headed, let common sense prevail, lets increase beach traffic
retail traffic special events traffic, and at the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Think about it this way AP needs a full service fitness club.
The natatorium was part of AP's history... If someone could go back
to old photos and design a new building that looks like the old
natatorium, but
Thanks for that link. I was looking for this one:
_Monte Carlo Swimming Pool Asbury Park, NJ_
(http://www.cardcow.com/100654/monte-carlo-swimming-pool-asbury-park-us-state-town-views-new-jersey-asbury-park
/)
Ah, yes!
In a message dated 1/25/2008 12:09:15 P.M. Eastern Standard
I think we can look foward to the boardwalk having a lot of high end
retails, and a gym of some sort. Look around, look what's being built. All
these high end condos, some million dollar, are going to want these high end
facilties. There's no way around that. I just hope they mix it up
fancypaaantz -
Your ideas sound good. Who knows what will happen. Weren't there talks
about a fitness club of some sort? Aside from the beach club? I don't
remember exactly, but i'm sure someone will correct me. I think the beach club
on 8th ave was to be built on the eastern
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do not misinterpret my silence here on many
of these issues as no longer caring. I do as fervently as before.
Dan everybody knows that my brother! You passed all the tests.
You're a stinkin' local now like the rest of us
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Somehow, it has to be recouped by the one doing the work. It;s
called profit - the reward
for the idea and the MONEY and listening to the armchair qb's.
And, we WILL NOT go over again the fact that the WRA was poorly
written
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More brain-storming... lets go...
Enough brain storming. We need action and money. Someone needs to put
up the dough. If you can bring an investor in, do it.
The problem is the DEAL.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More brain-storming... lets go...
Werner
Money. Money. Money.
There's plenty of AP's kiddie rides and games all in storage. Purchased
by one collector.
Theproblem is, you don't own the land.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
. This all started with a beach club surrounding an 18 inch
pool. That is not doing it right, in my view. And, I think that is
a big old waste of money.
To you and I it might be a waste of money. But if have kids,
Remembering also that history is also one of AP's biggest assets.
So, after some of the main buildings (except the casino project, as
that is huge and will likely be on a slower track) are restored and
being used to generate $$, then focus can be shifted to rebuilding
history, one project at a
In a message dated 1/25/2008 8:33:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Think bigger... Not just a gym. Picture a four story natatorium
that looks like the old one. On
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[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ma I always
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Think bigger... Not just a gym. Picture a four story natatorium
that looks like the old one. On the ground floor, a large, heated
indoor pool surrounded by lounge chairs. Large windows facing the
ocean that have
I always thought the gym in Belmar, on Ocean Ave, was a great location for
them; but I never saw any people in there, even during the peak summer months.
Maybe too many distractions for working out -- or poor management...
In a message dated 1/25/2008 7:41:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Everything takes $$. But it is not just about being an arm chair
quarterback... We are all consumers here. Even if we do not have the
money to build anyhthing ourselves, do we not have the voice to say
what we would and would not spend our money on? Maybe no one will
read this, but if more AP
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote:
More brain-storming... lets go...
Enough brain storming. We need action and money. Someone needs to put
up the dough. If you can bring an investor in, do
I don't know if i like the idea of recreaeting the building from the past
known as the Natatorium. The building has been gone for decades, it's gone. A
new building that serves the same function as the Natatorium once did would be
good.
The back end of the Casino should be rebuilt
Think bigger... Not just a gym. Picture a four story natatorium
that looks like the old one. On the ground floor, a large, heated
indoor pool surrounded by lounge chairs. Large windows facing the
ocean that have screens for summer and hurricane coverings for
storms. Also locker rooms, saunas,
I hear ya. Although the swans is not an easy project either. That
would require dredging/cleaning the lake. And that mini golf place
this past summer was horrible. They could not even spring for some
decent speakers to play the radio. Hurt my ears every time I went by.
I am not saying
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Pick a project, figure out how it can generate $$, build a
business
plan, consider the history of the area, and build and complete
that
project before moving on. Instead of throwing a bunch of stuff at
the wall
lol We keep hearing each other. Like preaching to the choir.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
I hear ya. Although the swans is not an easy project either. That would
require dredging/cleaning the lake.
Until that happens, use the swan boat image/replicas on the
In a message dated 1/25/2008 10:33:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
History does indeed have value ($$$) - However some of your
suggestions are what some would call 'being a slave to history'. Not
that it is, but be careful suggesting a backward going restoration.
The old one looked like a pretty large structure.
http://www.cardcow.com/25986/boardwalk-at-natatorium-asbury-park-us-
state-town-views-new-jersey-asbury-park/
Ah well, I am keeping my opinions to myself then.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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Two stories should be the max on the pavillions. If we want to go
this extensive, why not rebuild the ocean side of the casino and put
in all these features.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Think bigger... Not just a gym. Picture a four story
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Remembering also that history is also one of AP's biggest assets.
So, after some of the main buildings (except the casino project,
as
that is huge and will likely be on a slower track) are restored
and
being used
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Two stories should be the max on the pavillions. If we want to go
this extensive, why not rebuild the ocean side of the casino and put
in all these features.
I thought MM would know what their doing? I think they stil do? I don't
know. let's see what they do.
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I don't want to cut and past everything you listed, but good ideas
Werner! There could be two farris wheels however. Are there still plans to
rebuilding part of the palace? Or has that boat left? I havn't heard anyone
mention anything about it recently. I havn't scene or heard any
It looks large, but i think it's still only 2 stories
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I do not think any of the new things should be copied from history,
so much as inspired by history with a modern twist/purpose. What
originally started my thinking along the lines of the Natatorium,
was the idea of an 18 inch pool. I was thinking, ugggh, after all
those plans and speeches, is
Oh and to that comment about the Stone Pony, if anything, that
building should be restored or expanded, not torn down!
Restored to what? I think it's about as close to the orginal now as
you're gonna get! With the expection of some utility problems.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There were two issues of concern raised at last nights presentation.
The lack of public restrooms and the use of the 'green-spaces'.
The shack at 1st Ave is proposed to be a restroom and the only
others are to be at
, 2008 9:19:39 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ ... wrote:
There were two issues of concern raised at last nights presentation.
The lack of public restrooms and the use of the 'green-spaces' .
The shack at 1st Ave
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Again we we are hearing temporary fixes. Great time for Madison to come in,
and get what
they want. I just worry that 5 years from now that temporary will still be
in sight.
I think deep down, this is what some
Meanwhile, what's going on with The Esp.?
Does anybody have any news concerning that?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote:
Again we we are hearing temporary fixes. Great time for Madison
to
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Meanwhile, what's going on with The Esp.?
Does anybody have any news concerning that?
I am working on it but cannot speak. trying to find a solution in the
best interest of the city. Be patient.
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The longer they are off the job, the harder it will be for Metro to come back.
- Original Message
From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:31:44 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals
Meanwhile, what's going
It looks like work is still going on there, but at a snail pace? Or maybe they
were still organizing their left over materials. That's most likley it.
Charlie
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The longer they are off the job, the harder it will be for Metro to come
back.
We are currently in the economic equivalent of 9/11. For years you put up with
the nonsense Partners and the city's acquiescence to
Words of wisdom from a wise man.
Hey Dan, some Friday you should come to The Saint again and let me buy
you a beer or something. It was cool to have you come hang out recently.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are currently in the economic equivalent of 9/11.
The stock market hasn't hit post 9/11 pricing.
And then there were no bailouts.
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Does anyone else think the part about a beach club with an itty bitty
pool is strange? 18 inches? Why can't they make a regular pool and
then a small kiddie pool?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Does anyone else think the part about a beach club with an itty bitty
pool is strange? 18 inches? Why can't they make a regular pool and
then a small kiddie pool?
It cost money to build. Probably no need for
Could this be a Spinal Tap/Stonehedge moment?
18I meant 18 feet
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@
wrote:
Does anyone else think the part about a beach club with an itty bitty
pool is
I have to agree. Asbury Park - a cake with no cake in it, a pool you
can't swim in.
Why can't we be normal just once?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@
wrote:
Does anyone else think the
Yeah, I get that. It is expensive... But if you are going to make a
beach club, then make a beach club. The announcement was that MM was
going to put in a beach club, but really it is some weird kiddie pool.
That's not a beach club.
I understand market forces and all, but maybe we should look
Didn't I post yesterday that Chile is drawing tourists with a pool
that's 1000 yerds long?
We're going to try to real them in with 18 inches. Talk about
thinking small.
My waist is twice that. I won't be able to submerge.
My kids won't want to go anyway.
On second thought, maybe that's the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On second thought, maybe that's the point. I didn't take them for
$12.00 cheeseburgers on the boardwalk, either.
Dollar Dave's...
$1 sodas, $1 burgers, $1 fries, $1 shakes $1 Cotton Candy $1 ice
cream $1
I hope everyone sees the no diving in sign. Sounds like MM has.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Does anyone else think the part about a beach club with an itty bitty
pool is strange? 18 inches? Why can't they make a regular pool and
then a small
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I understand market forces and all, but maybe we should look to making
real improvements with actual structures and restoration instead of
all this temporary stuff.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Does anyone else think the part about a beach club with an itty bitty
pool is strange? 18 inches? Why can't they make a regular pool and
then a small kiddie pool?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
They are still diddling with it after years of knowing what the Plan
requires. Has everyone forgotten the prior promises/deadlines?
Just a case in point.
Werner
In looking back at the history of Pier Village - they
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@
wrote:
They are still diddling with it after years of knowing what the Plan
requires. Has everyone forgotten the prior promises/deadlines?
Just a case in
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your points have no relevance to the fact the 5th Ave Pavilion should
be fully restored and taxable at this time.
Werner
I think I wasn't responding to that, but something else.
But u are right, it should back,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd rather have 10 average families that spend money every weekend,
even in the rain, then 2 couples that only go out after 8 pm once
week and question why an ice cream costs so much.
Sometimes, EXPERIENCE counts.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to agree. Asbury Park - a cake with no cake in it, a pool you
can't swim in.
Why can't we be normal just once?
LOL - ROTFL
Asbury Park hasn't
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Again we we are hearing temporary fixes. Great time for Madison to
come in, and get what they want. I just worry that 5 years from now
that temporary will still be in sight.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The reason it could be tempoary is because they don't know what's
going to work.
They have to figure out how to make a return to their investors.
Instead of trailers, they should turn the 4th ave pav into retail and
Gee, why don't they just take a field trip to Pt. Beach or Seaside and take
note of the many
things that work for them there.
I'm going to reserve judgement until I see what actually gets put on our
boardwalk.
High end eateries and retailers probably aren't the answer, but a nice mix of
things
I have noticed that even for us (and, I guess, we are not the
typical AP demographic)... we do have a number of very expensive
restaurants in town. I would call them special occasion restaurants.
That is why I prefer Sister Sue's, Brickwall, and the Adriadic bc
they are more reasonable. Or
In a message dated 1/24/2008 2:33:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Asbury Park...The only difference is that it was highly successful due to
good management.
Werner, how far back was that?
**Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
I have to agree. Asbury Park - a cake with no cake in it, a pool
you
can't swim in.
Why can't we be normal just once?
You'd make a bundle, too! A new version of the ghetto special! I
have a freind who ran a small deli. He offered a hot dog, soda and a
bag of chips, for a dollar and called it a ghetto special! The
elderly, young kids and families with three kids, could afford your
prices!
--- In
It cost money to build. Probably no need for lifeguards at that depth.
How long does it take to blow up?
The current plans include a new beach club to be operated by Madison
Marquette and constructed on the vacant Second Avenue Pavilion site, with an
18-inch-deep wading pool
Nice post Werner. You answered my question unknowingly! Thanks. That's
the location i suspected the pool was being talked about for. That location
shouldn't be wasted. I can picture people walking from ocean ave to the
boaredwalk, assuming their heading towards a pool, to only find
An 18 inch pool is a fountain, not a beach club.
I think the beach club and 18 inch wading pool are two seperate
concerns. Don't forget, a regular sized pool isn't a beach club either.. A
pool would be a bonus to any beach club. Not all have them. There will be a
beach club with
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