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Q- tips ?
^This!
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on digital stuff.
He keeps on trying to wind it all back to how analogue stuff works.
So inappropriate. It's like people talking about reciprocity
failure with digital cameras...
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it as
audiophile caliber, it's certainly not among the worst sounding albums
I've got. Brothers In Arms was originally released in 1985, making it
an early rock album that was a full digital recording. Perhaps they
had several different masterings.
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specifically mastered for AM radio heard through crappy car speakers.
Engineers would put such gear into their mastering studios, to hear the
music the way many listeners would hear it.
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There's a Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs gold CD version of Bridge Of Sighs
(http://www.amazon.com/Bridge-Sighs-Robin-Trower/dp/B00IVI). It's
rare and out of print, and I've never heard it, so I don't know how it
compares to other masterings of the album. Anybody heard it?
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and some
don't. The desire for the internal DAC would depend on your specific
system configuration. The one I bought is without DAC, which is how I
wanted it.
By the way, I've had excellent results tube rolling mine with NOS
Telefunken and Mullard. (The amps come stock with Chinese tubes.)
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happens?) Besides, one of the main reasons people upgrade is because
they have upgraditis, not because they actually need new gear.
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therefore business model for dealers soon disappears
On the contrary, if dealers embraced active speakers, they would have
massive upgrade potential for the 99+% of their existing customers who
are using passive speakers and separate amps.
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slackhead;641842 Wrote:
Don't believe the hype. This is all marketing (which many have fallen
for).
Do you have even the tiniest shred of evidence that the test charts
Benchmark publishes are incorrect?
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on the bass).
And of course any non-coaxial design has inherent problems of its own.
However, I'm not a professional speaker designer, so I defer to your
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publishes jitter tolerance test charts right in its
product manuals, including an extreme test injecting over 2000
picoseconds of jitter. See, for example, p.34-36 of this document:
http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/sites/default/files/documents/DAC1_Manual_RevN.pdf
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dislike the rather snotty attitude of the company, but
then I guess I'm not their target audience.
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For speakers, my favorite nonsense phrase is fast bass.
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the usefulness of these cables.
I'd love to see someone do a true ABX test of a $200 USB cable vs a
cheapo $5 one.
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for a
period of time. For instrument strings, such reverberations are
desirable (even essential), but not for speaker drivers.
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covered it all. But so far its worked
out well.
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and look at
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it at 8X or 16X real time. And I can do it over
and over again, bit perfect every time. Why would anyone need an exotic
audiophile transport to extract the bits from a CD?
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a matter of
synergy with a particular amp and speakers. And the point of
diminishing returns comes pretty early in the price curve.
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There's a DCC version of Aqualung currently listed on eBay for $284!
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great. What I really don't understand, though, is why the
vocals sound so poor on ATMP. It's like they used a bad microphone, and
nobody noticed during the recording session.
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that has the best sound quality is the 30th
anniversay remaster of -Born To Run-. Even the old live recording from
-Hammersmith Odeon, London '75- (included with the 30th Anniv. -Born To
Run- set) sounds better than -Live In New York City- recorded 1999-2000.
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on the CD side a 16-bit version from the same master?
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difference?...
Two questions for you magiccarpetride:
1. At what HMV store did you buy The Beatles USB?
2. What DAC and other system components are you using for the 24-bit
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Focal Professional CMS40, or if you can afford to go a little above the
$1K price point for a pair, the CMS50 is well worth the difference. If
you hear the CMS50, you WILL want them.
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the former has remote control. If you don't need an analog
input, such as for a tuner, the DAC1 USB will save you a chunk of money
and sound just as good. All of those models have slightly improved
opamps and circuits compared to the original DAC1.
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I don't have anything meaningful to contribute to the topic of this
thread, but I just wanted to thank Sean for still participating in
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michael123;563475 Wrote:
Having listened to some of better USB devices, I must confess: yes,
Windows USB is garbage.
Windows XP maybe, but Windows Vista and Windows 7? Bit perfect output
is easy with the newer OSs. And what more could the operating system
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doesn't necessarily
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m1abrams;559946 Wrote:
This past 4th Slacker had an Independence Day station, only issue with
it though was it seem every other song we need to stand and salute a
flag ;)
The U.K. guys on this forum probably didn't listen to that station...
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the years, and it comes frighteningly close to my high end
gear (Red Wine Audio) that cost about 10X as much.
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I frequently confuse my car's transmission with my interconnects.
How about Monster cables as spark plug wires?
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Audio critics have conjured up more adjectives than wine tasters to
describe the sonic impact of power supplies, cables, capacitors and
even resistors, so why can't they answer this simple question: What
does jitter sound like?
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Monster. What ever happened to Monster's claim against him? My guess is
that he never heard back from them, but anybody know?
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, and have raised the
prospect of a mini black hole being created at Westminster when the two
proton beams collide to recreate the conditions of the Big Bang.
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Another test to try when you get a round tuit
(http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round_tuit): Record the analog audio
into the sound card with nothing connected to the inputs, to see if any
of the noise being measured is coming from the computer or the sound
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be for the publication/reviewer to purchase all the gear
outright on the open market (which is what Consumer Reports does for its
reviews of all kinds of products). But that approach is virtually
impossible for high end audio gear due to the price.
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to the same DAC.
Maybe you'd hear a difference if you've got a very crappy DAC or a very
old one that doesn't handle Toslink optical well.
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than magnifying them. One who is good at the
subtleties is Srajan Ebaen of SixMoons.com. Having owned several pieces
of gear that Srajan has reviewed, I don't always agree with his
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electrical wires. To my pleasant surprise, I did not
detect any audible problems.
As long as you're using a high quality coax cable, you should have no
problem going 25 feet.
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... We hope
this will provide us a decent level of redundancy.
Wow, that sounds like a robust setup (unless a tornado takes out your
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Bryston put in the phase switch was because a
reviewer for one of the audio mags kept asking them for it. I guess
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the heck were they
thinking?
A better choice for inexpensive glass Toslink is the Impact Acoustics
SonicWave brand, such as this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009JR4H4
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cable or one of your devices has a bum optical port. I've got four or
five glass optical cables, and they all work flawlessly.
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Or, get an inexpensive glass Toslink optical cable and forget about it.
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, nor can it pass
through any ethernet data switches, hubs, etc. The Cat5 cable must be
dedicated to the analog audio signals.
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than the Benchmark DAC1 Pre, which really surprised me).
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enough horsepower for SOX
to downres the files, or do I need to configure something else?
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are supposed to work. Is
there a setting somewhere else specifically for the SOX downsampling?
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is restarted,
FLAC-WAV is automatically disabled with no other option available, i.e.
I can't set FLAC-WAV-FLAC. In that state, I'm back to the situation
where I get the error Problem unable to play file type.
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line for flc playback for
[file:///mnt/disk1/Music/HDtracks9624/2-Lucia.flac]
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The difference you're hearing could be due to higher gain in the op amp
section of the DAC compared to the op amp in the Squeezebox. If you do
the same test with the analog and digital outputs from a CD player, do
you hear the same difference?
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and are used at
less than full intensity. (That causes power line artifacts similar to
use of dimmer switches.)
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, the Benchmark DAC1 Pre did come out on top, but the
Cambridge DacMagic came frighteningly close for a product at 1/4 the
price. If I hadn't had the Benchmark unit there for direct comparison,
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Note that the Cambridge DacMagic is powered by 12 volt AC, not DC. The
Little Pinkie supply mentioned earlier in this thread is 12V AC, but
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get sound quality that rivals uber-priced amps and
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. Then, of course, you'd need to deliver both audio and video
to the AV receiver, in which case, it would probably use (eek!) HDMI.
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for less than a gigabyte of audio data that represents about
an hour of music, when computers move gigabytes of data around in a few
seconds without a problem. It is conceivable that a word clock scheme
will ever make it into mass market audio gear?
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enough to hold an entire track (or even a CD) worth of
samples, wouldn't that permit a straightforward design that is truly
jitter immune? Such a design could even permit pre-caching the music
into the DAC as fast as the source device could deliver it.
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gizmos in use today do you thing will still be in
use 20 years from now?
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, but is doesn´t
help.
This bug appeared is supposedly fixed in the forthcoming SqueezeCenter
7.3.
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Perhaps disconnecting the wired Ethernet removes a ground loop that was
causing low level noise?
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Why would anyone prefer plastic over glass when glass cables are readily
available inexpensively? Is anyone arguing that plastic is actually a
better transmission medium than glass?
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SatoriGFX;331654 Wrote:
And yet the jitter present on the digital outputs of the Squeezebox is
still higher than several traditional transports and is quite audible
when feeding an external DAC.
What exactly does digital jitter sound like after its converted to
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audio, jitter is usually measured in picoseconds, 1/1000 of
nanoseconds.) I don't see how there would be an audible difference in
digital output from modded vs. unmodded SB Duet into that DAC unless
the modded version is worse because they screwed up something in the
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halfway decent from their
analog jacks if your DAC happens to be temporarily out of commission.
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Are you referring to DVD-Audio Explorer or DVD-A Explorer (two
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Ack! That thing's got TUBES. Paging Doctor Frankenstein...
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with dBPowerAMP, and then when I went back to
try EAC again, AccurateRIP worked fine with it, too. Go figur'.
P.S. If you can get AccurateRIP working, there's no reason not to use
it. It positively confirms for you if your rips are correct.
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on the state of his old fridge. I
fail to see how overpriced audiophile power regenerators are relevant
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suggest that the original poster visit Audiogon.com for some new (to
him) speakers at reasonable prices.
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or
not that would stop the annoying tick is a whole different matter.
One way to solve the tick problem might be switching to battery powered
amps, such as those made by Red Wine Audio, but fixing the cause of the
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from the SB3's analog outputs when using the Elpac. I could not detect
any difference in the SB3's digital output between the two power
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ar-t;237335 Wrote:
The guys who hold the patents for some of the most popular Class D
circuits get very angry when you call their design digital. Trust
me
Would that be the folks at Hypex?
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zanash;235457 Wrote:
Didn't see a price ? but you can build one for about $70 though the
case will not be as pretty.
It's $259 for the Channel Islands power supply. I paid $249 for my
Squeezebox. What's wrong with this picture?
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this, a WAV file is the only valid comparison of an SB3 vs. a
CD player. Even if the bits are the same, perhaps the FLAC-sourced
digital output has extra jitter that this particular DAC can't handle.
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league.
I would hardly think it is a bottlekneck in my system.
Sorry, I should have specified. I was referring to the Moodlab Concept
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What would a statistically significant result require? 50 tests? just
wondering before embarking on something similar...
The minimum number that yields reasonable statistical significance is
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of extreme cases, but reality almost never
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opaqueice;228204 Wrote:
Can you clarify? Where the heck did the number 30 come from?
Google the phrase central limit theorem.
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find in your comparison of dbPowerAmp and EAC? Were they
identical in their ripping output?
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Mark Lanctot;226795 Wrote:
Since they are both calling the same external encoder, the results
should be the same provided neither one had a ripping error.
I know the results should be the same. I was asking if that's what
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regardless.
In what way did the optical sound better? The only difference galvanic
isolation should make would be elimination of a ground loop hum that
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amcluesent;225559 Wrote:
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TP :-)
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at random intervals, but I was unable to hear any difference
whatsoever between the Toslink and coax connections. I ended up
sticking with the Toslink for the galvanic isolation (eliminates
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occam;219429 Wrote:
Indeed, if we could just keep that pesky AC from our power transformer's
primary...
Keeping out pesky AC is the main objective of Red Wine Audio's battery
powered amps (http://www.redwineaudio.com/Products.html).
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houseguest as Wow! speakers,
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. But at least it's a sign that he
cares enough about his users to explain the situation, even if he can't
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the years). Manufacturers are not obligated to make
products behave the way their manuals say. But they are obligated to
make products behave the way their advertising says.
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