Ben e-mail
be...@cisco.com
From: brian.sch...@vitalsite.com
To: rrcr...@yahoo.com; leslie.me...@lvs1.com
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:29:14 +
CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
It is Ben Ng. Found his linked
From: brian.sch...@vitalsite.com
To: rrcr...@yahoo.com; leslie.me...@lvs1.com
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:29:14 +
CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
It is Ben Ng. Found his linked in profile below which
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CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
It is Ben Ng. Found his linked in profile below which describes his
position in Cisco.
www.linkedin.com/pub/ben-ng/3/509/940
Profile on the Cisco site
: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Ben Ng comes to mind
On May 29, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Leslie Meade leslie.me...@lvs1.com wrote:
The question is... what if anything can we do ?
Where would we
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wrote:
Ben e-mail
be...@cisco.com
From: brian.sch...@vitalsite.com
To: rrcr...@yahoo.com; leslie.me...@lvs1.com
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:29:14 +
CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
...@onlinestudylist.commailto:boun...@onlinestudylist.com]
On Behalf OfWilliam Bell
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:28 PM
To: somp...@gmail.commailto:somp...@gmail.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
07:42
To: William Bell
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Could not say it any better
Sent from my iPad
On May 29, 2013, at 11:28 PM, William Bell
b...@ucguerrilla.commailto:b...@ucguerrilla.com wrote:
Brian
...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Parr
(jamparr)
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:38 AM
To: Leslie Meade; William Bell
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Agreed, nailed it!
Jamie Parr
CCIE #38633 (voice)
Engineer - IT
jamp
...@gmail.com
Cc: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com,Vik Malhi
vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially
announced
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us to remain
CCIE's even if Voice is retired, but I think
[mailto:
ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Rrcrumm
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:11 AM
To: Leslie Meade
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Ben Ng comes to mind
On May 29, 2013
@onlinestudylist.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:16:01 PM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
This is quite ridiculous ! All other tracks (RS/SP) have gone through massive
changes but they were retained. Even Security CCIE track has recently gone
through 50
I am guessing this is a marketing decision and the technical folks feared this
backlash, hence the delay in the announcement.
It makes no sense whatsoever, especially as the blueprint change seems to be
fairly minimal.
On May 28, 2013, at 21:16, m george m.george00...@gmail.com wrote:
This
As I said before - I would think product marketing had something to say about
this. Just my opinion. Why for the last 4 years has there been a lack of
Microsoft products in the exam? Are Microsoft are not relevant or it Marketing
bullying the content team?
At the same time there are many folks
Collaboration.
if active CCIE voice keep renewing thru written, they will keep the number.
From: m george m.george00...@gmail.com
To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Cc: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:16:01 PM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE
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Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially
announced (Hesham Abdelkereem)
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Vik,
A 2nd grader can pass RS/Sec/SP much much easier than Voice IE. Voice is
still the toughest one i know some double IE's who couldn't pass Voice.
If Cisco has lost faith in re-cert, that should apply to every track, not
just Voice.
Naturally, they should have renamed Certification to
Ranting about it won't change anything. I read on line that when they
retire your CCIE, you can still renew by passing a CCIE level written or
lab. If this is true then you do not loose your CCIE just the voice tag.
That seems to be a difficult pill to swallow but it would not be the first
from
that this is the true
Regards
Chrysostomos
From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lake
Sent: 29 May 2013 14:10
To: m george
Cc: OSL Group; Vik Malhi
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us to remain CCIE's
even if Voice is retired, but I think the frustration is Voice and
Collaboration are not THAT far apart and no matter how you look at it, it all
falls under Cisco Unified Communications, which is what the name of
] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us to remain CCIE's
even if Voice is retired, but I think the frustration is Voice and
Collaboration are not THAT far apart and no matter how you look at it, it all
falls under Cisco Unified
I agree that in retiring the exam and requiring that you retake the
lab portion again is incomprehensible.
They can't tell me that the RS hasn't changed as much or more over
its lifetime. It is still the same but they did not retire it (well
maybe that is the plan, retire them all and make you
VIk/IPExpert Team,
Does anyone knows who the Program Manager is for Upcoming Collaboration
Track ? We need to voice our concerns to PM's direct email address on
Cisco Support Community. That's only way, we will be heard.
Let's hope Cisco listens to us.
Regards,
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:29
: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com,Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us to remain
CCIE's even if Voice is retired, but I think the frustration is Voice
...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us to remain
CCIE's even if Voice is retired, but I think the frustration is Voice and
Collaboration are not THAT far apart and no matter how you
Agreed.
--
William Bell, CCIE #38914
blog: http://ucguerrilla.com
Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla
On May 29, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree that in retiring the exam and requiring that you retake the
lab portion again is incomprehensible.
They can't tell
If you or any of your colleges are going to Cisco Live. I'm sure there is a
CCIE Voice presentation and update. Voice your opinion there. ***No pun
intended.***
Overall, it sucks. It does look like more of a marketing side using the
word Collaboration. There are some changes in 7.0 to 9.1 and
I'd love to get some traction on an effort to fix this. Please count me in
for anything I can do to let our concerns be heard. I'm sure I'm not alone
here but I'm embarrassed to tell my wife that I've invested our families
time and money into something that's EOL. Not a very wise decision on my
if anything can we do ?
Where would we start..
Original message
From: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com
Date:
To: Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com
Cc: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com,Vik Malhi
vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE
@onlinestudylist.com,Vik Malhi
vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us to remain
CCIE's even if Voice is retired, but I think the frustration is Voice and
Collaboration are not THAT far
: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com
Date:
To: Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com
Cc: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com,Vik Malhi
vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us
@onlinestudylist.com,Vik Malhi
vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us to
remain CCIE's even if Voice is retired, but I think the frustration is
Voice and Collaboration are not THAT far
we do ?
Where would we start..
Original message
From: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com
Date:
To: Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com
Cc: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com,Vik Malhi
vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration
*Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced*
***
** **
Is it just me or did they disable commenting on the v4 lab topics post?
https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20804
I wanted to commend William Bell on hitting the nail on the head and put
my own 2 cents
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of William Bell
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:12 PM
To: Martin Sloan
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
They did disable commenting. That's interesting
...@markholloway.com
Date:
To: Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com
Cc: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com,Vik Malhi
vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us to remain
CCIE's even if Voice
From: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com
Date:
To: Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com
Cc: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com,Vik Malhi
vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written
start..
Original message
From: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com
Date:
To: Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com
Cc: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com,Vik Malhi
vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Bummer, I was really hoping CCIE Voice candidates would transition to
Collaboration without any additional lab exams.
On May 28, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:
For my initial reaction read here:
http://bit.ly/12MNK5t
Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890
Managing Partner -
Yes its really frustrating what Cisco is doing to us.
Ok let me tell you this.
People now have invested a lot of money in pursuing their CCIE Voice that
includes (Verious Workbook fees , Rack Rentals , Home Lab building , travel
expenses and Lab fees attempts for whatever times)
So when people
Sweet sweet sweet
From: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com
To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Cc: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:56:24 PM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Bummer
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