Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
And this was BEFORE the '47% are victims and don't pay taxes' video came out today I'm trying to decide if this actually helps his campaign. People might like a candidate who drops the truth every once in a while. Anyway, in Alan Grayson, NBC fashion, Mother Jones is practicing some

Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I cannot see how the RomneyBot can wriggle out of this: There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Scott Stroz
What is sad is that a lot of those 47% will still vote for Romney simply because they agree with him on only a single issue - like abortion. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot see how the RomneyBot can wriggle out of this: There

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
unfortunately, the worst part is he tried to insult the 47% for obama (who he is right probably wont vote for him). but then he conflated that group with the victims, and further grouped in the no tax payers, and the social moochers. think of that venn diagram. unfortunately for mitt, those

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
What's the Matter with Kansas all over again. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: What is sad is that a lot of those 47% will still vote for Romney simply because they agree with him on only a single issue - like abortion. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:03

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The tax foundation has a map that shows which states are the real tax moochers, and which states pay more than their fair share. Surprise surprise, the mooching states are all majority republican states, and the tax payers, are mostly blue states.

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Some of the maps on the Tax foundation site are very interesting. http://taxfoundation.org/maps?page=1 For instance one of the thigns that Romney complains about, the distribution of the EIC entitlements, as he calls it, maps very closely to majority Republican states.

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Vivec
I doubt his supporters will hear about this, nor will they care. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Of course, facts have a liberal bias. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt his supporters will hear about this, nor will they care. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Cameron Childress
You're using Gmail, after changing your password, turn on Two Factor Authentication. http://bit.ly/Pw3CUs If the mail is in your sent folder, someone's really sending through your account, not through some open relay with your address as the from address. Is this spam? Prank? -Cameron On

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Cameron Childress
What he says is generally true, except the percentage is way off. Some people vote for Obama for this reason, but not all. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: I cannot see how the RomneyBot can wriggle out of this: There are 47 percent of the

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
It's gibberish. Long strings of random words. I've been meaning to go to two factor authentication for a while. Oh well. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: You're using Gmail, after changing your password, turn on Two Factor Authentication.

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: It's gibberish. Long strings of random words. Maybe someone poisoning spam filters? I've been meaning to go to two factor authentication for a while. It's a little extra time now and then to setup but you'll be much

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Conveniently ignoring the retired for instance. Also ignoring social security and payroll taxes. And lookie here, all those entitled tax cheats appear to be in most red states. http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/UserFiles/Image/Fiscal%20Facts/20100524-229-nonpayers-map-.jpg

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Ray Champagne
Thanks for the recommendation, Cam. I just set that up on my domain. Good stuff. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: It's gibberish. Long strings of random words. Maybe

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.comwrote: Thanks for the recommendation, Cam. I just set that up on my domain. Good stuff. Always glad to pontificate about security and paranoia! -Cameron ...

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Cameron Childress
Speaking of ignoring... On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: Conveniently ignoring the retired for instance. Also ignoring social security and payroll taxes. And lookie here, all those entitled tax cheats appear to be in most red states.

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Mother Jones is going to release another segment soon. The Daily Currant has the scoop. Its not pretty. Someone gets called taco jockeys. : http://dailycurrant.com/2012/09/18/hidden-camera-tape-romney-blasts-loser-hispanics/ I think Mittens is having his Macaca moment.

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I know, I KNOW, I shouldn't jump the gun until i watch the video myself, but WOW. If that is true, . screech It appears the Daily Currant is a joke site a la the Onion. Larry, you suck. and i suck for spreading it. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Larry C. Lyons

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread GMoney
GMail double auth requires a cell phone. *sigh* On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com wrote: Thanks for the recommendation, Cam. I just set that up on my domain. Good stuff.

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:53 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: GMail double auth requires a cell phone. can't use google voice #? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:53 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: GMail double auth requires a cell phone. Two factor authentication, by definition, is 1) something you know (password) and 2) something you have (cell phone). Many corporate environments have the RSA keyfobs as the something

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:53 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: GMail double auth requires a cell phone. Two factor authentication, by definition, is 1) something you know (password) and 2) something you

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
I just set it up. It doesn't have to be text, they should be able to call your regulr phone I would thing. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:19 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:53 AM,

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Cameron Childress
Oh yeah I think there is a voice option. Of course that assumes (if you don't have a cell) that you're near your landline when you need to access your email. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:22 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't have to be text, they should be able to call your

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:19 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, i do. It's sitting dead in a drawer somewherewhere all cell phones belong. Decision, meet consequence. :) -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe

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Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Vivec
Mother Jones is going to release the video in Full soon. So that would answer those who say some of it was taken out of context. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Do you honestly think that they would do so? For the the true believer its doen't matter what the facts show, they will believe the opposite. Facts don't matter to them. After all its well know that facts have a liberal bias. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:

RE: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Eric Roberts
I think you can use a home phone...they can send a voice message Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Vivec
I'm on my email all the time. Two factor authent that isn't always nearby is too much trouble. And, of course, what if my cell is stolen or lost? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on my email all the time. Two factor authent that isn't always nearby is too much trouble. You may want to read up a bit on how it works. You authorize each browser only once every 30 days. It looks like they may have

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Vivec
*sprawls on floor and looks at ceiling* tooo difficut. tooo sensible On 18 September 2012 15:54, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: You may want to read up a bit on how it works. You authorize each browser only once every 30 days. It looks like they may have changed the

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: *sprawls on floor and looks at ceiling* Hah - yeah, It's not really all that bad... -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
I like the two-factor authentication and have been using it for awhile now. However, there is one giant, stupendous hole in it that hopefully you will never fall into. I have a friend who has used two factor authentication for awhile and who also owns an Android phone. She's pretty big on the

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Ray Champagne
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but they send you the second authentication code via a text message, so there would be a way to get in... On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: I like the two-factor authentication and have been using it for awhile now.

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
Not if your phone was the one that was on record and just wiped. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com wrote: Maybe I am misunderstanding, but they send you the second authentication code via a text message, so there would be a way to get in... On Tue, Sep

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
Let's put it this way: My phone is 503.555. I set up two factor authentication. Google sends me an SMS to 503.555. with the auth code. I put it in, my phone is authorized and two factor auth is set up. Now my phone gets wiped by Verizon. Because it is an Android phone, I need to set up

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
You can either write down and store the key somewhere safe, or get a new one through the web interface. The original text is only once. The application key is generated through a web page. On Sep 18, 2012 6:00 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Let's put it this way: My phone is

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Ray Champagne
Ah, ok, having never owned an android phone, I didn't realize that you had to have a google account to activate the phone. Thanks for clarifying. On Tuesday, September 18, 2012, Judah McAuley wrote: Not if your phone was the one that was on record and just wiped. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at

RE: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Eric Roberts
They have codes you can print out for emergencies Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original

RE: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Eric Roberts
You can set up alternates...plus you still have the code you can use that you can print out. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com

RE: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Eric Roberts
It should still be able to accept calls and text messages...just can't access all the google features. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531

Re: Someone is spoofing my email address.

2012-09-18 Thread Dana
it may not be you that got hacked. It may be someone who has you in their address book.Can't read the rest of this thread right now but I'll check on this tonight and maybe offer a couple of suggestions. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:53 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: It's gibberish.

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
So that would answer those who say some of it was taken out of context. Being someone who never takes anything at face value, it seems hard for me to believe that Willard doesn't have a video recorded by his team. So, if he does have a video, why not release it? Perhaps, his campaign wanted

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
Back on the subject of Willard's video, here's a link to a Business Insider article covering two surveys: One by CNBC and one by Yahoo Finance.

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
Why didn't he release it himself, maybe it is a clever plan? Ok, fact number 1: If you have to call a 10pm emergency conference call over a leaked video, it means it absolutely is not playing out like you want it to. Don't be a fucking idiot, Jerry. Fact number 2, if your response is to bring

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Jerry, Why the FUCK do you use his middle name? What exactly are you implying or saying by doing so? Can you please explain that to me? On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: In it, Hussein proclaims: I Actually Believe In Redistribution

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
Why the FUCK do you use his middle name? For the same reason I used Mitt's first name, Willard. I felt like it. Did it bother you that I called Mitt by the name Willard? Why the FUCK do you have to yell FUCK about something so meaningless? J - It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
Because it makes you sound like a racist shithead, that's why. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Why the FUCK do you use his middle name? For the same reason I used Mitt's first name, Willard. I felt like it. Did it bother you that I called Mitt by

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Exactly. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Because it makes you sound like a racist shithead, that's why. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Why the FUCK do you use his middle name? For the same reason I used

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
Jerry, I see that you are concerned when Barry is called by his middle name, Hussein. It doesn't bother you when Mitt is called by the name Willard. I believe your concern borders on racism. You seem to think that there is something wrong with the name Hussein and that Barry shouldn't be

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Vivec
That's just playing around with semantics. One has a particular connotation , and one does not, and everyone knows it. On 18 September 2012 22:18, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Jerry, I see that you are concerned when Barry is called by his middle name, Hussein. It doesn't

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: That's just playing around with semantics. One has a particular connotation , and one does not, and everyone knows it. And there you have it, you have a better chance of being elected when you go by a middle name that is also

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
Yes on certainly has a connotation associated with it. One that I think you guys should really consider. I've read the man's words, and watched his actions, and I think his middle name and what it represents is just another indication that he is not the right man for the job. I'm not saying

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
One* Due* On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:47 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Yes on certainly has a connotation associated with it. One that I think you guys should really consider. I've read the man's words, and watched his actions, and I think his middle name and what it represents

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
One has a particular connotation , and one does not, and everyone knows it. Which one has a connotation? I'll guess Hussein since that's the name Jerry seems to dislike so much. What is this connotation? I am not sure I do know it so fill me in on it. Why is not okay to call a man by his

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
hahaha You really poked the hornets nest with this one. Good job :) On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: One has a particular connotation , and one does not, and everyone knows it. Which one has a connotation? I'll guess Hussein since that's the

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
But, but, but, it's racist. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:11 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: hahaha You really poked the hornets nest with this one. Good job :) On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.comwrote: One has a particular connotation , and one

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=J1o0ooNn8Qc#! On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:11 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: But, but, but, it's racist. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:11 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: hahaha You really poked the hornets nest with this

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
Yes on certainly has a connotation associated with it. One that I think you guys should really consider. Nah. The name is a diversion. I've read the man's words, and watched his actions, This is what people should be considering. What I am saying is that he spent large amounts of his

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:11 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: But, but, but, it's racist. Just because we choose to call you by the one part of your name the evokes the name of one of the greatest enemies of our country who the last administration spent 8 years demonizing and telling

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
It's a Muslim name though, not a black one. Jesus. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.comwrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:11 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: But, but, but, it's racist. Just because we choose to call you by the one part of your name

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
And you'll know when the other side starts hitting that point when they start calling him Willard Goebbels Romney. In the mean time...racist as fuck. Judah ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
Not even a little and totally missing the point. It is intentionally provocative? Sure, but that doesn't make it racist. Every president has had names used against them, usually not their own. Some of the things I remember people on this list calling Bush at the time... Nah man. Way to

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
No shit, Tim. It's used for demonizing. Do you think the people who call him Hussein care? Really? Sand niggers. House niggers. Whatever. Think about it. What possible point would anyone...anyone...have for calling him that other than demonization? Other than making him an enemy based on his

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
http://yoisthisracist.com/ On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Not even a little and totally missing the point. It is intentionally provocative? Sure, but that doesn't make it racist. Every president has had names used against them, usually not their own.

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
Provacative based on race and nothing else. Tell me what the other provocation is. Where is the irony? Where is the humor? Explain to everyone why it is not racist as fuck. Let's hear it. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Not even a little and totally missing

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
Demonizing is not racist by it's face, If someone said He's a Nation of Islam black power blah blah blah N-word that you used several times that's racist. I know what racists act like. They mainly aren't afraid to make it obvious. I've been on the other side against enough of them. On Tue,

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
Islam is not a race. It is a religion. Is it possibly bigoted to use it to point out that he was raised Muslim? I would say that depends on who is using it and how it is being used. I've never seen anything from Jerry to make me think he is bigoted. As a matter of fact it is likely that I am

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
For fucks sake, Tim, have you not been listening to these people? They've said he's Nation of Islam, they've said he's black power, they've said he's not American, that Holder is advancing a black agenda...they've said all that and more. Racist as fuck. After questioning his birth, repeatedly,

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
Did Jerry say any of those things? I've never seen it. Now who is being bigoted? Painting with a broad brush neh? On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.comwrote: For fucks sake, Tim, have you not been listening to these people? They've said he's Nation of

RE: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Eric Roberts
It also makes you sound like a complete and utter idiot... Refereeing to someone by their middle name is not a normal naming convention. By specifically, and in a derogatory fashion, referring to him by his middle name, you are also implying that there is something wrong with having ancestors

RE: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Eric Roberts
It is being racist...any why are you responding to yourself Tim? Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com

RE: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Eric Roberts
I've read the man's words, and watched his actions, This is what people should be considering. Then why are you not focusing n that instead of calling him by his middle name if that is what people should be focusing on Jerry? Or is that you really are just a racist moron?

RE: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Eric Roberts
Goebbels was much smarter... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From:

RE: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
Oh good, Eric's here to call me a racist too. Now if we can get Larry to jump in it'll be the trifecta. But he probably can't read my comments anymore. Oh well. Shall I go copy and paste your bigoted anti-christian remarks. Your hypocracy knows no bounds. On Sep 18, 2012 11:56 PM, Eric

RE: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
I was just using the gmail interface, that's how it works. On Sep 18, 2012 11:56 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: It is being racist...any why are you responding to yourself Tim? Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
So, wait... Only people who say Hussein Obama is in favor of black power and the nation of islam which wants niggers to rule us all are racist? Because that is really going to narrow the field down substantially. Let's go back and start from my lemmas: 1. Some people like to refer to the

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
I don't think you are a racist, Tim. I've called Jerry one, but not you. I have plenty of issues with the President and I know you do too. I disagree with a number of your solutions to situations but I do not think they are motivated by race. Where you disagree with the President, it is largely

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Vivec
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/obama-mitt-romney-video_n_1895038.html See what obama has to say about the 47% ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
haha You said these people. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.comwrote: For fucks sake, Tim, have you not been listening to these people? They've said he's Nation of Islam, they've said he's black power, they've said he's not American, that Holder is

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
Muslim is a religion and it in now way means Arabic. His father was Kenyan and the man that gave him his current name Indonesian. Missed it by that much || On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: It also makes you sound like a complete and

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
Because it's funny and obviously gets a rise out of you people? On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I've read the man's words, and watched his actions, This is what people should be considering. Then why are you not focusing n that

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
That's awesome. Good job Eric. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Goebbels was much smarter... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel:

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
Ok, Tim. Let us say Jerry and the ilk he has repeatedly supported. I laid out my lemmas in precise detail and order. Don't give me this glancing blow shit. Engage. Discuss. Enough of this pussy footing around. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:19 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: haha You

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
Do I need to define ilk? And supported? Or are you ready to actually engage and grow a pair? Judah On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Ok, Tim. Let us say Jerry and the ilk he has repeatedly supported. I laid out my lemmas in precise detail and

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
Wait, do I need to define pair? On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Do I need to define ilk? And supported? Or are you ready to actually engage and grow a pair? Judah ~| Order the

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
Nope, if his middle name was Malcolm or Farrakhan you might be closer. I've already said it could certainly be construed as bigoted. Why do you insist that it has to be racist as well. Simply put it isn't, and whatever associations you draw from the name are your own. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
I don't see that anything he said is racist. It doesn't mention race, and the way in which the name is provocative is it's tie to the former leader of Iraq, a man of a different race than the president. I have already said, yes it is inflammatory, so what? Calling Bush a Nazi War Criminal

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
Weak, dude. Weak. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Look at those lemmas. They don't exist in isolation and you damn well know it. You say it doesn't have to be racist. Cool. Provide an alternate explanation that fits the facts. Judah On Tue, Sep 18,

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
1. Some people like to refer to the President as Hussein I'm with ya 2. The only logical reason to refer to him as Hussein is to cause divisiveness Agreed 3. The divisiveness caused by that nomenclature would be due to the mental context between the middle name of our current President and

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
Bush was not a Nazi war criminal. War criminal? Yeah, probably, but that has nothing to do with Nazis. So, once again, provide another reason why someone would call our President by Hussein other then conflating Black + Muslim. If your entire argument is that Islam isn't a race...the dude isn't

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Vivec
And yes. Almost everyone that uses Hussein when referring to Obama at their core has a racist agenda. All the birthers, his GOP opponents etc. To use Hussein after the history of the last 4 years is clearly setting up a premise that he isn't American, is a muslim and doesn't belong etc. etc. I

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
It is using the dislike of Muslims. I'm not claiming otherwise. I'm not saying it's not bigoted. I'm saying not racist. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:29 AM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.comwrote: Weak, dude. Weak. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
Ok, explain the rationale for calling him Hussein. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:34 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Some people like to refer to the President as Hussein I'm with ya 2. The only logical reason to refer to him as Hussein is to cause divisiveness Agreed 3. The

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
Fucked up? Sure. Funny as hell, absolutely. Conflating black and Muslim, no way. Again Muslim. At a minimum he is an Ex-Muslim, and that's more than enough for me. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.comwrote: Bush was not a Nazi war criminal. War criminal?

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread Judah McAuley
So the entire argument is a fine distinction between bigotry toward a religion the President doesn't have and a racial background he does have? Is that it? If so...I guess? So if Tim is right, then I apologize for calling Jerry a racist and am just a damn sight more confused that he's a bigot

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
To tie him to Muslims and make him look bad. Whether it's true or not is irrelevant. Just like calling Bush a Nazi. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.comwrote: Ok, explain the rationale for calling him Hussein. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:34 PM, LRS Scout

Re: Romney Campaign Crashing and Burning

2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
Exactly. Words have meanings, and that's what this whole argument was about. Racist was misused and Angel and Eric are still doing so. Anyone here can feel free to call me a bigot for my opinions on Islam, I accept that. I however will not accept the word racist. It has nothing to do with

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