RE: Congratulations to the US

2004-11-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Thanks. I feel proud as well. However, we still have progress to be made: 1. First, the total number of voters was still too low. We should be 80%+ IMHO 2. The level of education of the average voter seems to still be lower then it should be. We need to find better ways to get better

RE: Congrats To Bushies

2004-11-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Dana. What is your point? Since it is who they voted for, it is clearly who they want. A want is a thought, versus a need. Since he won the popular vote and the electoral vote, it is clearly a majority, no matter how you count it. When you combine this with the Congressional growth by the

RE: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-11-02 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Nope. Suburbanite. Lake Forest (Typical Republican) -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 8:42 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have... Andy wrote: Actually, I'm done and

RE: Kerry 298 Bush 231

2004-11-02 Thread Andy Ousterhout
. -Original Message- From: Andy Ousterhout Obviously a leftist publication bent on bending the will of the undecided wimps who want to say the voted for the winner... g Interesting is that Bush has about twice as many strong electoral votes as Kerry and that most of Kerry's votes are weak

RE: China Bashs Bush?

2004-11-02 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Looks like this person might. But since his country doesn't allow free speech, we all know this to be nothing but posturing. Also, if you have been reading our posts, I for one, don't really care what people in another country says about us. If we are doing what I think to be the right thing,

RE: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-11-01 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Actually, I'm done and since basically the diatribe is down to mostly Sam, you and me, I think that most of the others are done as well. As we say in Chicago, vote well and often. Andy -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Subject: Re: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever

Re: Sam, Andy! Speculators Wrong

2004-11-01 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Gruss, I don't see anything in this article about world opinion. I do see an excellent article on the effects of the election on the price of oil. Two entirely different things. By the way, I don't think that world opinion of US is up. Andy All Bushies, I have identified a sector that

RE: PING?

2004-11-01 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Pong -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:52 PM To: CF-Community Subject: PING? Subject says it all ~| Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes by

RE: Kerry 298 Bush 231

2004-11-01 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Obviously a leftist publication bent on bending the will of the undecided wimps who want to say the voted for the winner... g Interesting is that Bush has about twice as many strong electoral votes as Kerry and that most of Kerry's votes are weak. In any case, tomorrow will be very interesting

RE: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-31 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Gruss, First, I don't have my MBA, which is why I know that the measurement thing is BS. I've worked for at least one the best managers in the world, Jack Welch. And while they do measure the hell out of things, they also understand that some of the most important characteristics are not

RE: Bin Laden shows his ugly face

2004-10-31 Thread Andy Ousterhout
I my original response was that his experience operating a boat in a war 30 years ago doesn't make him a better leader today. It should make it easier for him to relate to the troops, but this may be countered somewhat by his stand when he left the service. Andy -Original Message- From:

RE: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-31 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Conversely, you can't say they are. We are just more knowledgeable now. And we have two countries out of the nuclear running. Which is progress. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Andy wrote: All of which sounds like we are better off. This is the problem I'm pointing out - you and

RE: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-31 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Actually, to state history correctly, it was the general consensus that they did have WMD's, both from the know facts at the time, unaccounted stocks, and actions. And the only reason the UN was making any progress was because we had 100,000 plus troops massed on their borders. Meanwhile, those

RE: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-31 Thread Andy Ousterhout
See below: -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But even if Kerry, Gore, Clinton or McCain were President the last four years N. Korea and Iran would still be where they are today. I believe only Bush took Libya and Iraq off that list. So less

RE: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-31 Thread Andy Ousterhout
You've got to be kidding me. You may be the only person on earth who believes that. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Andy wrote: the only reason the UN was making any progress was because we had 100,000 plus troops massed on their borders. No that had nothing to do with anything

RE: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-31 Thread Andy Ousterhout
There. Now doesn't feel better to say what you've always wanted to ... Jane you ignorant slut... On a side note, are you on a first name basis with Hussein? You keep calling him Sadaam as if he were your neighbor who just mowed your lawn. And you keep rudely calling President Bush, Bush. But

RE: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-31 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Actually, I liked it! Showed a little spunk! -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dunno Gruss - considering the request at the beginning to keep the conversations on a higher level than the school playground this seems pretty low level to me.

RE: Bin Laden shows his ugly face

2004-10-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Then he should rejoin the military at a lower level. The Best CEO's are not those that know how to work the lathe. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 12:28 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bin Laden shows his ugly face Jim

RE: Bin Laden shows his ugly face

2004-10-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Gruss, You've logic doesn't flow and none of it has anything to do with an MBA -- which is about as far away from the factory floor as you can get. Your first statement starts at the self-evident and moves quickly to fallacies. Growth doesn't always take time, but does take a market and

RE: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Wow. Are you ever constrained by facts? If you can't measure it you can't achieve it? Pure BS. What about happiness? And your fact list just doesn't cut it. Pure supposition on your part. Both cons and pros. For example, what makes you think that new leaders haven't stepped up? Your middle

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Very interesting perspective. And this makes sense. If any of the terrorist groups had the stash, they'd of probably filmed it and placed it on the web to increase the fear. Andy -Original Message- From: Robert Munn Here is the latest on the story: Russia did not go on its own. It

RE: What About McCain?

2004-10-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
What about McCain Kerry? -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:47 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What About McCain? Kevin wrote: Personally, while I like the guy a lot he lost a lot of my respect when he defended the

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Why is that surprising? This election is not about Kerry, it is about Bush. They could be running Donald Duck and most of those voting for Kerry would vote for the duck instead. Quack Quack. -Original Message- From: G The funny thing is, while the righties are spinning Bush is all

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
lol. And sometimes a wise-quacker! -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control Andy wrote: They could be running Donald Duck and most

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
It still wouldn't fly... -Original Message- From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:17 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control Perhaps we'd be better off with a Mallard over a dullard...

RE: ...and then they voted (non-political humor (hopefully))

2004-10-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
good ones! -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer Subject: ...and then they voted (non-political humor (hopefully)) ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community.

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Does your tape ever get tired of playing the same song? -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott That tells me that the Pentagon didn't have enough troops in country to cover IAEA sites so Al Qaqaa became a lower priority.

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Gruss, I am beginning to suspect that you are working for the Kerry campaign as the only way to rationalize your totally lopsided view. So if I read this correctly your logic runs like this: unless someone has a ready answer to an accusation, not only must the charge be true and but all

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Check your facts. From FactCheck: Kerry claimed, as he had in the first debate, that the Army's Chief of Staff, Gen. Eric K. Shinseki, was forced to retire for saying before the invasion of Iraq that many more troops were needed than the administration was planning to send. It is true that

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
When one disagrees with ones boss and is forced to quit, it is never because the boss is correct. Only time shows whether the boss or subordinate where correct. Many times, the disagreement has less to do with substance then with style. The actual cause of Shinseki's leaving is likely never to

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
No disagreement. -Original Message- From: Matthew Small Having been in the military, I know that a retirement is often as much a firing as anything. I don't believe Shinseki was fired i.e. Get your crap and get out, but that he was made into a lame duck by announcing his retirement

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Yikes. Sounds like Bush put together an international coalition. How dare he! Just when Kerry Co had him pegged. Guess it is time to bury the truth... -Original Message- From: Sam Morris http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/19/opinion/19franks.html?ex=1255924800en=dfe

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Point is that a coalition was assembled when possible. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons Andy, If you look at the nations involved with the coalition to out the Taliban, you'll find it is composed of countries whose nationals were killed by Alqueda on 9-11. Moreover the attack on

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
are entirely separate cases with different backgrounds and causes. You cannot equate the two. larry On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:36:57 -0500, Andy Ousterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Point is that a coalition was assembled when possible. -Original Message

RE: October Surprise

2004-10-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
but it wasn't there when our troops got there 3) Our troops didn't find it there but on the other hand they weren't looking for it The latter being the update I posted. Dana On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:33:12 -0500, Andy Ousterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought Sam's info indicated

RE: October Surprise

2004-10-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
the air. I suppose the Rather debacle may have made them cautious, but what evidence do you have for what you say? Dana On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:05:16 -0500, Andy Ousterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, 60 minutes was hoping to delay the story until just before the election. We don't

RE: Polls

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Candace, Sorry. I was actually dis-ing Ken. So the apology is to him as well. Just getting upset with how far out-of-bounds this election has gone. Both sides working hard to out low-ball the other. The general population unable to make rational decisions because of all of the

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Gruss, I also think that there is another reason. If you make a decision based off of the information at hand at that time and it turns out that the information was wrong, is that a mistake? One can question the timing -- should we wait for more information -- and that might be viewed as a

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
We'll see if you say the same about Bush as time passes. Andy -Original Message- From: G Interesting thing about Clinton, at the time the allegations were levelled, his advisors told him to lie about it, arguing that admitting it immediately would cost him his presidency. Clinton did

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Actually, Bush did say that he had an intelligence error ( go ahead, laugh) and that he was looking into it. He said it during the debates. However, the wolves were baying for raw meat so that didn't suffice. And Clinton would have been much better off if he'd admitted his error, then went for

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Actually not. Can you point to any direct correlation between grades and success? If so, how does the correlation define success? Andy -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons But a C+ GPA in grad school is still a C+. It says he showed up, and did barely well enough that we can't kick

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
No, the real question is what did he do with his life. He has fought and won against a difficult decease (remember, it is a decease, not a weakness), become Governor of Texas and then President of the US. So while you personally detest him, he has been very successful. Andy -Original

RE: October Surprise

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Sam, Cut and paste. I'm not going to join. Andy -Original Message- From: Sam Morris --- Gruss Gott wrote: It's a screwup, but how big is open to debate. Oh it's big. I know everyone here strikehates/strike doesn't like Rush but this is a must read. Kerry's UN Screwed Up Al-Qaqaa

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Yikes. I guess being president of the US is a small achievement. Get real. You can't find many that have been as successful. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Further I'd challenge you to find any less successful than Mr. Bush.

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
I disagree with your analysis. Becoming a president is not a version of Star Search. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Andy wrote: Yikes. I guess being president of the US is a small achievement. Get real. You can't find many that have been as successful. Sure they have to work

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Sorry, not biting. I'd liked to have a beer with Clinton as well. But I wouldn't vote for him. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:11 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry Andy wrote: I disagree with

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Gruss, If you are going to continue to ignore the facts about Shinseki, what other facts do you continue to ignore because they don't suit your view. Re-read earlier posts showing that Shineki submitted his retirement prior to any troop discussion. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Wow, what a great definition of being fired? I've been wined and dined after I was fired. For show. So unfortunately, your definition is not very good. But feel free to adjust to meet your desired view of the world. And when did this happen? Long before the decision making on troop

RE: Mr. Arafat

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
He needs to go. -Original Message- From: Jon Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Mr. Arafat I think if Arafat was to die suddenly in the next few days, it is only going to destabilise things even further. Compounding

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Can't argue with an opinion. I can just say that I don't share it. Personality plays a role, but opinions, perspectives and beliefs matter more. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:31 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Know that makes sense. But what does it have to do with Bush? Sounds more like a problem with Clinton. Andy -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: October Surprise - the short version Andy

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
2004 19:58:16 -0500, Andy Ousterhout wrote: Can't argue with an opinion. I can just say that I don't share it. Personality plays a role, but opinions, perspectives and beliefs matter more. ~| Purchase from House of Fusion

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Ah. I wouldn't use the word faith. But I do believe that the strongest leaders have core beliefs around which they center their decisions. These core beliefs provide a predictability for those working with them and gives them the strength to tackle unpleasant and unpopular tasks. Also, I was

RE: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Yah. Same with his running mate Edwards! -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg nahhh, its just gettin good now... the REAL BULL SHIT IS SPEWING! its amazing the absolute horse shit that just pelts our ear drums each time that lunatic power trip crazed motherfucker opens his fucking mouth.

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
. The Defense Advisory Board wasn't his friend either. This shouldn't be any revelation - as I've pointed out in the past Gen Franks called Mr. Feith, the stupidest f--king man and the planet. On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:37:28 -0500, Andy Ousterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Know that makes sense. But what does

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Wrong. Goodnight. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Andy wrote: That leads me to think that he would only operate unilaterally after the damage had been done. The idea of Preemption was discredited by the war in Iraq; it will only work with perfect intelligence which we obviously

Polls

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
What is interesting is the swing in states like a pendulum. Even, Kerry lead, Kerry lead widens, Kerry lead lessons, even, Bush Lead, Bush lead widens. http://www.electoral-vote.com/ Andy ~| Purchase from House of Fusion,

RE: Polls

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Interestingly, the Polls show Bush doing much better than Kerry with married women because of the security issue. So more women voting may not favor Kerry, unless they are in the under 29 category, where Kerry is a clear leader. Good news (from my perspective) is that traditionally, the younger

RE: Polls

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Yes. Talk about ignorant. I've a relative who is very bright but has been fooled by the Kerry campaign that Bush would reinstate the draft. I was very surprised to think anyone, especially someone who is educated, would think that any president would reinstate the draft. The military doesn't

RE: Polls

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
And you believe that? And you believe that that information is worthy of this group? News worthy? Do you also email the list when the National Inquirer reports alien spottings? This election needs to get over. The depths that are being reached with lies, dirty campaigns, mis-information are

RE: Polls

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Because the modern army doesn't need canon fodder like previous armies. The equipment is more complicated and the people strategies require more training. Lastly, their deaths cause a greater uproar. So no, I don't believe that Bush or the Military will institute a draft. Since Kerry has the

Did you know?

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Read all the way to the bottom. How the vaccine works: Influenza vaccine is produced by growing the virus in eggs. The virus is killed and processed to create the vaccine, which is given by injection under the skin. The body then produces antibodies to the virus over the next two to four weeks.

RE: Did you know?

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
- From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/flushot.asp On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:01:22 -0500, Andy Ousterhout wrote: Read all the way to the bottom. How the vaccine works

RE: Did you know?

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Why not? If the facts fit, you can't convict. -Original Message- From: G Someone on this list hates when people mention Snopes.com to discredit incorrect information.so i won't mention Snopes.com on this list.or the fact that this piece is incorrect in its primary argument, as

RE: Did you know?

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
They are using figures that only include the direct costs, but not the indirect costs. They are doing this to product their cronies who fund them. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Andy wrote: It is not surprising that Kerry and he don't see the need for any tort reform as part of

RE: Did you know?

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
A friend of mine is a vascular surgeon and 30% of her expenses are malpractice insurance. -Original Message- From: Sam Morris Average malpractice awards have tripled to $3.5 million since 1994, driving medical liability insurance premiums up over 500 percent. In 2001, 12 juries awarded

RE: Did you know?

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Isn't that what insurance is for? How come you don't apply the same logic to health insurance since our lifestyles strongly influence healthcare costs. Andy -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 4:54 PM To: CF-Community Subject:

RE: Did you know?

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
. They made no *attempt* to pay me until I hired a lawyer. On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:38:32 -0500, Andy Ousterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting and not surprising. However, the real point here is that Edwards is as attached to the plaintiffs bar as Chaney is to Oil companies. It is not surprising

RE: Did you know?

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Depends how she cooks... ducks and runs serpentine for cover... -Original Message- From: dana tierney It isn't a matter of what the woman is worth. Presumably her husband wasn't going to sell her at auction any time soon.

RE: electoral college

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Not Bush. He is perfect in every way. -Original Message- From: dana tierneylege he worked hard not smart. Yeah, it was one of his flaws. Most presidents have them, ya know. ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a

RE: October Surprise

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Dana, So why is this news? And if not news, why show it? -Original Message- From: dana tierney Sam I saw this story -- including the bit about were not there when tropps arrived -- on CNN this morning. Chill. On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris wrote: The liberal

RE: electoral college

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Where did that come from? -Original Message- From: dana tierney Reagan too, I hear :) On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:21:14 -0500, Andy Ousterhout wrote: Not Bush. He is perfect in every way. -Original Message- From: dana tierneylege he worked hard not smart. Yeah

RE: electoral college

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Ah. Perhaps an exaggeration. -Original Message- From: dana tierney someone -- not you I think --- was calling Reagan a god among men here a while back Dana On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:31:20 -0500, Andy Ousterhout wrote: Where did that come from? -Original Message- From: dana

RE: October Surprise

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
of the story, where different people say that this is not the case. It's called balanced news coverage. When there is confusion as to the facts, an attempt is made to reflect all points of view. Dana On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:24:23 -0500, Andy Ousterhout wrote: Dana, So why is this news? And if not news

RE: October Surprise

2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
and the clarifications today? On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:11:34 -0500, Andy Ousterhout wrote: It is not news because it was already reported on. Were any new facts introduced? If not, why re-introduce this old story now? -Original Message- From: dana tierney

RE: Envy Of The World?

2004-10-25 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Try brewing your own! They taste great and are a lot less expensive. So far, I've brewed and IPA and Porter. Next I am going to try an Oktoberfest style. Each batch yields approximately 5 gallons. Andy -Original Message- From: Harkins, Patrick cool! PS. - got to check out that

RE: Envy Of The World?

2004-10-25 Thread Andy Ousterhout
it :) - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout Try brewing your own! They taste great and are a lot less expensive. So far, I've brewed and IPA and Porter. Next I am going to try an Oktoberfest style. Each batch yields approximately 5 gallons

RE: Kerry's false plan for peace

2004-10-25 Thread Andy Ousterhout
But that is down significantly. Bush has made significant in-roads in traditional Democratic voting blocks - women, people of color, and Jews. If this isn't reversed by election time, Kerry is toast. Andy -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme Fact: Judith and I hate Bush but we're

RE: electoral college

2004-10-25 Thread Andy Ousterhout
As I understand it, Carter's fundamental problem was that he was too smart and wouldn't delegate. Things just basically ground to a halt as he reviewed and approved everything. Andy -Original Message- From: dana tierney He had a recession and yeah, he had the Iran hostage thing. Reagan

RE: electoral college

2004-10-25 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Just as you can't blame Bush for the recession. g -Original Message- From: dana tierney Screwed up, yes. But if the hostages were released *as* Reagan was sworn in you really can't give Reagan credit for freeing them, can you? Dana

RE: electoral college

2004-10-21 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Well, then I am double-cursed! And I am not rich g -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Andy wrote: All in all, like the Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times. And we, folks, live in very interesting times. No doubt there. I think the rest of that curse is: may you

Thursday Joke (Why wait till Friday!)

2004-10-21 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Tour of Alaska On a tour of Alaska, the pope took a couple of days off to visit the mountains for some sight seeing. He was cruising along the campground in the pope-mobile when there was a frantic commotion just at the edge of the woods. A helpless Democrat, wearing sandals, shorts, a

RE: Coalition Members

2004-10-21 Thread Andy Ousterhout
I've been reminded by my German friends that even they supported us in Iraq within their constraints by increasing troop counts in both Pakistan and Afghanistan. -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 4:09 PM To: CF-Community

RE: another Joke

2004-10-21 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Just want everyone to know that I am an equal opportunity abuser! g -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 4:23 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: another Joke that's pretty good :) On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:55:37 -0700 (PDT), Sam

RE: Alleged RE: Dying for the United Nations

2004-10-21 Thread Andy Ousterhout
WMD, WMD, WMD laughs, turns and runs -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 4:54 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Alleged RE: Dying for the United Nations I dont think WMD in Iraq are even alleged any more. It's considered

Electoral Poll

2004-10-21 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Polls back to more balanced: http://www.electoral-vote.com/oct/oct21.html ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community.

RE: Dying for the United Nations

2004-10-21 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Gruss, What if there is a segment that doesn't want a resolution? And do you really think that a settlement can be forced? How well do forced solutions last, since they are inherently unstable, waiting for a time for revenge? Andy -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott When your at a

RE: quick question about Iraq

2004-10-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Who has soon this prior to what we found out after we went in? In fact, B has been proven to be true after the fact (Food for Oil) and A was clearly a widely believed view. Andy -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme It's important to note that both versions included the requirement

RE: Iran Endorses Mr. Bush?

2004-10-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
The rational is that democrats tend to focus more on Human Rights issues than republicans. Sorry to burst your bubble. -Original Message- From: Robert Munn confirmed: http://www.indystar.com/articles/0/187838-8290-010.html I would add, editorially, that of course Iran wants Mr.

RE: Iran Endorses Mr. Bush?

2004-10-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Do you ever play a different record, or just repeat the same song no matter what the dance? -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Andy wrote: The rational is that democrats tend to focus more on Human Rights issues than republicans. Sorry to burst your bubble. I don't think the 2 are

RE: electoral college

2004-10-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Same sight, updated. Yesterday it estimated Kerry at 281. Andy -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:05 PM To: CF-Community Subject: electoral college http://www.electoral-vote.com/ Who said New Mexico was barely Bush? Is

RE: electoral college

2004-10-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
and run... Dana On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:09:13 -0500, Andy Ousterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same sight, updated. Yesterday it estimated Kerry at 281. Andy -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:05 PM To: CF-Community

RE: electoral college

2004-10-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
in this sort of poll is that in an individual state the sample size of any one poll may not be large enough to ensure any real reliability. larry On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:37:28 -0500, Andy Ousterhout The site is very interesting. If you hover over a state, the actual percentages show

RE: A Reason to Celebrate!!!

2004-10-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
A great game. While I am not a Sox fan, it is great to have them in the series. Too bad it couldn't be a Cubs/Sox series Andy -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:05 PM To: CF-Community Subject: A Reason to Celebrate!!!

RE: Cheney to fake heart attack?

2004-10-19 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Nope. It is ok to change. But one would hope that a presidential contender would do sufficient research before presenting an opinion. It is clear on his pay as you go plan he did not. Isn't this the same problem that you are accusing Bush of? Acting before all of the information was in? And

RE: Kerry's Testimony

2004-10-19 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Absolutely. And I hold Kerry to the same standard. Andy -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley Awesome so by that logic President Bush needs to be held responsible for acting on faulty intel he got? About time someone finally figured out what i was saying that the buck stops with

RE: Cheney to fake heart attack?

2004-10-19 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Since the dawn of time g -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley When did a liberal become a bad thing? : ~| Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes by Ben Forta

RE: Cheney to fake heart attack?

2004-10-19 Thread Andy Ousterhout
He is only saying that when challenged. All the rest of the time he is being dishonest. -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley Isn't what he says to the people his public opinion? Or do we perceive his public opinion as what the media tells us his opinion is?

RE: Cheney to fake heart attack?

2004-10-19 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Very good! -Original Message- From: Gruss A liberal is a bad thing because most americans aren't liberal. A conservative is a bad thing because most americans aren't conservative. ~| Purchase from House of Fusion,

RE: Cheney to fake heart attack?

2004-10-18 Thread Andy Ousterhout
I am not sure what is more disgusting --DNC smear tactics like this or the continued rant by the DNC that the RNC is running an attack campaign. Just another sign that Kerry is starting to flop.First the real mean side of Kerry came out with the continued discussions of Mary Cheney, then the

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