Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-04 Thread dana tierney
Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:49:47 -0500 Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How do you know that the only plan that exists is to attack Iraq?  This is not something that should be public knowledge.  And planning is not

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-04 Thread Andy Ousterhout
nice if they were at least informed if not   consulted :)   Dana   - Original Message -   From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:28:56 -0500   Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate   To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Dana,   I am not sure

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-04 Thread dana tierney
f not consulted :) Dana - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:28:56 -0500 Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dana, I am not sure where you are going with this.  Would you prefer we as

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-04 Thread dana tierney
ct: Re: Kerry's record in Senate To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We discussed this last week. The left was saying the NIH was forced to change their Web site. The study that said there was no link came out years after the study that did say there was a link. So they might be toying w

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-04 Thread Andy Ousterhout
ECTED]   Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:06 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate   how can you abuse something that gives you almost unlimited power?   Remember this statement comes from the administration of a man who   eight months into planning the invasion of Iraq

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2004-08-04 Thread Sam Morris
that there was no plan of attack on > his > > desk. Ya. It was > > on Cheney's desk. Or maybe Rice's. > > > > Dana > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 09:

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-04 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > excuse me. > > When did breast cancer become a "left-wing" issue? > > Dana > > - Original Message - > From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:14:28 -0700 (PDT) > Subj

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-04 Thread dana tierney
Blanket insults do not a refutation constitute, my son :) Dana - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 14:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You're babbling :) --

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2004-08-04 Thread Sam Morris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 09:18:04 -0500 > Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Uh huh. IMO, ust because she was part of the Clinton > administration > doesn't make her automatically right. Waco, cl

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-04 Thread dana tierney
of attack on his desk. Ya. It was on Cheney's desk. Or maybe Rice's. Dana - Original Message - From: Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 09:18:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Uh huh. IMO,

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-04 Thread dana tierney
excuse me. When did breast cancer become a "left-wing" issue? Dana - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- "L

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2004-08-04 Thread Kevin Graeme
Uh huh. IMO, ust because she was part of the Clinton administration doesn't make her automatically right. Waco, clipper chip, etc. -Kevin On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 14:36:20 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no abuse of the Patriot Act. None. Yeah, that's right. Snatch and

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2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
--- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Say what. Claiming that the group is some vague > commie, > anti-capitalist group is not refuting the charges. > All these different > claimshave been adequately documented (see the > footnotes). Try again > monkey boy. > > larry Did you reply to

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Say what. Claiming that the group is some vague commie, anti-capitalist group is not refuting the charges. All these different claimshave been adequately documented (see the footnotes). Try again monkey boy. larry On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 09:46:51 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
Now you should know I disagree with almost everything Reno say's :) http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpros283908538jul28,0,1661376.story?coll=ny-viewpoints-headlines As former Attorney General Janet Reno told the 9/11 Commission, "Generally everything that's been done in the Patriot Act has

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Howie Hamlin
He could have been the VP candidate - the Supremes would have had a meltdown :)   - Original Message -   From: Doug White   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:51 PM   Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate   I doubt either side of the aisle would deny that if Cl

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread dana tierney
take your pick :) > > for the following... please tell me you are kidding > :) > > > I think we need the patriot act and Bush didn't > put > > the panties on the prisoner's head. Which part? -sm __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free s

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for the following, I would like to see a link > > Bush tried to push through free medication for > seniors > > but couldn't get the 2/3 votes to pass it. He had > to > > settle for the current watered down version, which > is > > still better than

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Won Lee
At 13:58 8/3/2004 -0700, you wrote: >I'm pro choice, my car gets over 30 mpgs and I don't >have a strong opinion about guns. >I believe in the Democrat's vision that we should help >the needy. I also believe the current party has lost >that vision. > >-sm Thanks. [Todays Threads] [This Message]

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Say what you may about him, he did manage to turn back every challenge, from his personal life to an impeachment attempt from the Right. Say what you want about Bush, he won the election.  Do you like him now?  Same logic as you.  You can do much better Say what you may, he did manage to get

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
I'm pro choice, my car gets over 30 mpgs and I don't have a strong opinion about guns. I believe in the Democrat’s vision that we should help the needy. I also believe the current party has lost that vision. -sm --- Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any issues that you deviate fro

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
03, 2004 3:43 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate   based on your previous statements I am guessing that you don't think   Clinton was a good president. So I guess you can use him to make my   point, if it makes ya happy :) He *was* a great speaker.   But th

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Doug White
I doubt either side of the aisle would deny that if Clinton were eligible to run for re-election, it would be a landslide win!  Most every poll of whatever persuasion has clearly indicated that. Say what you may about him, he did manage to turn back every challenge, from his personal life to an im

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread dana tierney
at your leisure. I would like to know though, eventually. And do you base the opinion on all coverage or on the coverage of specific issues? Dana - Original Message - From: Judith Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 16:12:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Kerry's record i

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread dana tierney
Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:24:10 -0500 Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Clinton?   -Original Message-   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:17 PM   To: CF-C

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread dana tierney
for the following, I would like to see a link > Bush tried to push through free medication for seniors > but couldn't get the 2/3 votes to pass it. He had to > settle for the current watered down version, which is > still better than what was in place 4 years ago. > In the news today; US indu

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread dana tierney
can't prove it by me :) > So, under Bush, the Rich made less and paid more, and the bottom 50% made > more but paid less. > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Clinton?   -Original Message-   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:17 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate   That may be an attitude that is imposed by circumstances. And exciting   and charismatic leaders ma

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread dana tierney
ugust 02, 2004 6:55 PM >   Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate > >   Well, the people of Texas seemed to think he had a pretty good record, they >   voted for him. > > _   > >   From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >   Sent: Monday, August 02

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread dana tierney
ody else in. > >   _   > > From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:01 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate > > > > > What is the cost in lives if Kerry tu

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Won Lee
At 12:47 8/3/2004 -0700, you wrote: >I see a lot of people here to the extreme left. >When I counter with truths, I get accused of being >extreme right. Problem is I'm in the middle and only >look like an extremist because you are. I guess we >need a mediator :) > >-sm Sam, Is there any issues th

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Judith Dinowitz
Along the same lines, Sam -- Many a time I see people here who have very negative feelings towards religion and the Bible. While I know that the Torah is true, I have stopped arguing about it (except in certain cases) because I realize that I won't be able to sway the minds of people who are so d

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
trying to understand how you see things, Sam. > Not really sure > why I am bothering but I am. > > > - Original Message - > From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 12:20:58 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate > To: CF-Comm

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Won Lee
At 14:27 8/3/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Sorry, don't by it and neither to any economists that I know or have read. > >  -Original Message- >From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 1:53 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Kerry

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread dana tierney
I am trying to understand how you see things, Sam.  Not really sure why I am bothering but I am. - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 12:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Sorry, don't by it and neither to any economists that I know or have read. -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 1:53 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate   As I recall, he started talking about wha

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
OTECTED]   Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 1:50 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate   Andy,   someone (Sandy?) just posted that there is a plan up now on the   johnkerry.com website. Have not looked at it yet so I can't comment.   But look at it this way. If I

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
OK, your boring me. -sm --- Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam > > Your continual posting of generic political > statements and obfuscated > information really is not displaying much > intelligence on your part.  Your > comments that "This is a lie" every time you are > shown evidence

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
Mainstream media is mainly biased to the left. Talk radio is biased to the right. I thought everybody knew that. -sm --- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as I can tell all sources but yours are > biased according to you? > __ Do you Yahoo!? Y

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
> Dana > > > ----- Original Message - > From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 13:46:18 -0500 > Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Actually, I am not a Bush fan.  He has spen

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread dana tierney
As far as I can tell all sources but yours are biased according to you? - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 09:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I did address it by sh

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Doug White
Sam Your continual posting of generic political statements and obfuscated information really is not displaying much intelligence on your part.  Your comments that "This is a lie" every time you are shown evidence of error, or claiming the source biased, and then you back off into the very bias tha

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread dana tierney
ssage - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 13:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- "Tangorre, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What has Bush done to show that he dese

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread dana tierney
As I recall, he started talking about what terrible shape the economy was in and both consumer confidence and the stock market took a nose dive :) - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 06:43:17 -0500 Subject: RE: Kerry's record i

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread dana tierney
--- From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 13:46:18 -0500 Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Actually, I am not a Bush fan.  He has spent way to much, should have waited 2-6 months to give France and Germany a chance to

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2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
--- Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As for your link > about the VA funding, did > you read down further where it did talk about how > there was a proposed cut > and that the VA had to start turning away middle > income vets because of lack > of funding.  The issue is a lot more complex t

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Marlon Moyer
se of lack of funding.  The issue is a lot more complex than he did/didn't cut VA funding. > -Original Message- > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:34 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate > >

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
--- Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Truthfully, I don't think providing > data/links/information really works with > you.  Mainly what I get back from you is cut/paste > from RushLimbaugh.com so > I thought I'd try a different approach. Please back this up. When was I provided REAL data/

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Marlon Moyer
ginal Message- > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:51 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate > > --- Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Our 43rd president was born of a coca

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2004-08-03 Thread Marlon Moyer
It's a cut because it won't finance what's needed.  Also, proposed cuts to VA benefits were defeated in congress last year.   > -Original Message- > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:36 AM > To: CF-Community >

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2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
503.htm > > Seattle Weekly > > http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0315/news-anderson.php > > > http://www.house.gov/larson/pr_030523.htm > > >   - Original Message - >   From: Sam Morris >   To: CF-Community >   Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12

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2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
--- Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Our 43rd president was born of a cocaine user...so > what's your point? Do you do that with every issue? Throw out some outrageous lie to try to change the subject? -sm __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more stor

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Howie Hamlin
  - Original Message -   From: Sam Morris   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:35 PM   Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate   Funding for Veterans up 27%, But Democrats Call It A   Cut   http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=144   -sm   --- Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL P

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2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
I did address it by showing your source is extremely biased. If you have any other sources that back up your claim I’ll address it. -sm --- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what. That crud is completely irrelevant. The > issue is the Shrub > administration's heavy handed injection

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2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
Funding for Veterans up 27%, But Democrats Call It A Cut http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=144 -sm --- Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about the cutting of veteran's benefits? > Strange to be doing that with one hand while sending > current military personnel off to war

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2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
I did address that in another email. Why did you jump subjects? Do you now agree the Gorelick Memo built a wall? Can you stop saying it doesn't in future references? -sm --- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No comments about the administration's stacking > scientific advisory > comm

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Perhaps they are as biased as they are reported Bush to be?   -Original Message-   From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 10:56 AM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate   Our 43rd president was born of a cocaine user...so w

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Marlon Moyer
Our 43rd president was born of a cocaine user...so what's your point? > -Original Message- > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 10:19 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate > > Try this one

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
So what. That crud is completely irrelevant. The issue is the Shrub administration's heavy handed injection of a far right wing ideology into scientific research. You still have not addressed the facts in the document. Ideologues in review panels. Censoring of congressional reports. Removal of d

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Howie Hamlin
rry's record in Senate   No comments about the administration's stacking scientific advisory   committees, or the injection of ideology into review panels. How about   their declaration of increased scrutiny of grants that use the phrase   "gay" or "environmental" in the a

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No comments about the administration's stacking scientific advisory committees, or the injection of ideology into review panels. How about their declaration of increased scrutiny of grants that use the phrase "gay" or "environmental" in the applications, or censoring submitted articles to peer revi

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2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
Try this one: http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/145 The Union of Concerned Scientists was born out of a protest against the war in Vietnam. In 1969, a group of 48 faculty members at MIT -- the original “union” -- sponsored a one-day work stoppage of scientific research. A

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Sam Morris
We went over this already, how soon you forget. Let's try this again. Bookmark it this time. http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=m:5:13438:121325 I did read it. And it defintly builds a wall. U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White was concerned that Gorelick's new guidelines for investigations

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Sam, About Gorelick. If you actually read the memo instead of parrotting the limpblob propanganda, you will notice that she advocated lowering the so-called walls between the various intelligence communities. Also it was a republican sponsored bill that was signed by Bush Sr. that established thos

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Try this link from the Union of Concerned Scientists regarding how the current administration has been perverting the scientific advisory process by packing committees with ideological extremists, deliberately misrepresenting study reports to support the adminstration agenda, and suppressing eviden

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
ge-   From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:54 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate   Viewing the national economy as a whole, the figures are more like 3 to 3.5   million jobs lost due to the downturn, and since Bush took offic

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2004-08-02 Thread Sam Morris
>   > 2. His main source of intelligence about Iraq was >   > not what all you are quoting, >   > but was from the Iraq Ex-patriots who fed him >   > completely false information. >   > Ex=patriots who were being paid $450,000 per > year >   > from the US treasury. >   Yes we didn’t have spies on t

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Doug White
- Original Message -   From: Sam Morris   --- Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   > Reasons to vote out Bush:   >   > 1. Record Setting deficit with tax cuts for the rich   > - placing the burden on the   > middle class for generations.   >  Government spending continues unabated.  F

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Sam Morris
--- Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reasons to vote out Bush: > > 1. Record Setting deficit with tax cuts for the rich > - placing the burden on the > middle class for generations. >  Government spending continues unabated.  For > reversing the prior trend of Pay > as you go, to massive d

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2004-08-02 Thread Doug White
- Original Message -   From: Kevin Graeme   And Federalizing the airport screeners which violates the 4th amendment.   Interesting you mention that, now that they are seeing that the Federalization is not working as intended, they are now asking to go back to private screening contractors

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Doug White
Viewing the national economy as a whole, the figures are more like 3 to 3.5 million jobs lost due to the downturn, and since Bush took office, there have been less than a million new jobs created, so there is still a net loss of jobs in the overall economy.. Hardly a scenario to brag about Actuall

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Kevin Graeme
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 19:56:41 -0500, Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reasons to vote out Bush: > 20. Masc. items, The Patriot Act, The prisoner handing, The anti-constitution > Attorney General, and more. Don't forget: Covertly detained and held incommunicado US citizens. And when confronte

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Marlon Moyer
So they were able to realize an extra $142 for the year in tax savings. > -Original Message- > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:03 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate > > Also, here is

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
: Monday, August 02, 2004 10:00 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate The is from their finance division - is I think is a part of their bankruptcy reorganization. It was just on my mind.  last week there was a company that laid off several hundred workers, and another the

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2004-08-02 Thread Sam Morris
top 5% ($127,904 yr) pay 53.25% they earn 31.99 -sm > > -Original Message- > > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:10 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate > > > > --- Mar

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Doug White
8:34 PM   Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate   One thing I have a question with here, is it possible the reason MCI is   laying people off because they are losing subscribers, because of the   quality of their service?   I don't know, but the fact that a company is losing jobs doesn&#x

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
e but paid less.   _   From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate ok Sam here's my source.  They've got a nice little table that lists it all sorts of ways. http://www.taxfounda

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2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
t: RE: Kerry's record in Senate ok Sam here's my source.  They've got a nice little table that lists it all sorts of ways. http://www.taxfoundation.org/prtopincometable.html#TotalAdjustedGross I'm not sure what you're getting at because according to your numbers, the bott

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2004-08-02 Thread Marlon Moyer
me, so how does that refute my statement? > -Original Message- > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:10 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate > > --- Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
Yeah, seem like pretty smart people if you ask me. But hey, I'm from Kentucky, where our current slogan is: "At least we aren't Tennessee"   _   From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:15 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Kerry'

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2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
my income has gone up, and my taxes have gone down.   _   From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:57 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate 7, For wrecking the US economy, some have gotten jobs, here in S. A. the layoffs continue as

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Howie Hamlin
What do you expect - I mentioned the education record, didn't I?   - Original Message -   From: Nick McClure   To: CF-Community   Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 6:55 PM   Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate   Well, the people of Texas seemed to think he had a pretty g

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Save a horse, ride a cowboy!   -Original Message-   From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:02 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate   Love this one Democratic party button I saw a photo of   Stop Mad Cowboy Di

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Sam Morris
--- Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 3:47 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate > > > > Top 50%

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
August 02, 2004 2:00 PM >  To: CF-Community >  Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate > >  funny. > >  we never knew what bush would do in the white house.  no one does, >  apart from a second term president.  and thank god it wont be bush. >  we know he has messed t

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Doug White
Reasons to vote out Bush: 1. Record Setting deficit with tax cuts for the rich - placing the burden on the middle class for generations. Government spending continues unabated.  For reversing the prior trend of Pay as you go, to massive debt which will absorb an increasing portion of productivity

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Marlon Moyer
> -Original Message- > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 3:47 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate > > Top 50% of wage earners pay 96.03% of all federal > income tax. Should it be 100%? Sam,

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Jim Davis
x27;s not one I like to hear, but it's a lot more valid than many I've heard.  (A friend of mine the other day actually told she's voting for Bush because "he's so cute when he talks" - now that's gotta trump basic contempt.)  ;^) Jim Davis From: Nick McClure [mail

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
nt: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate wrong. if i elect someone, they are to listen to the constituency, and vote based on that. if they arent, i live in north korea, and who cares wtf i say. but we are here, in america, not toby keiths amer

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
>What has Bush done to show that he deserves to stay in and lead? Let's >recap: >Gave the wealthiest Americans a tax break while the middle class continues >to struggle.. Not to mention the less fortunate of the US still get shafted. Interesting, I got a tax cut, Kerry hasn't proposed anything t

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Doug White
Not this Texan, or his family.   - Original Message -   From: Nick McClure   Well, the people of Texas seemed to think he had a pretty good record, they   voted for him.     _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
uld not send in troops unless they are authorized by the UN, that is an idea that will not get my vote.   _   From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:23 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate couldnt it be, though, that the changing of

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
Kerry did miss one vote where the bill lost by one, it was for the extension of the unemployment benefits.   _   From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate >From what I remember from hig

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
the majority of your district, but the question of voting record is still valid. In the end the vote is still up to the Representative, not the district.   _   From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 3:59 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Kerry's record in S

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 3:17 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate I wasn't posting it as a for/against comment. Just information. It's worth noting that the list of votes only goes back to 2003. I know the absent vote record is a point that the Republ

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
ess, he's never actually been there.   _   From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:46 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate Actually, I am not a Bush fan.  He has spent way to much, should have waited 2-6 months to give Fr

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
is guy out than voting somebody else in.   _   From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:01 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate > What is the cost in lives if Kerry turns about to be an ineffectual leader? No more than n

RE: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Nick McClure
Well, the people of Texas seemed to think he had a pretty good record, they voted for him.   _   From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 1:55 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate Don't forget - Bush had no Washington expe

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Sam Morris
This whole loved by the world thing is overrated. I agree with what Rabbi Shmuley Boteach has to say: ... AMERICA IS hated by the nations of the world almost entirely due to its support of Israel and the war in Iraq. The United States is the great champion of Israel and is therefore loathed by a

Re: Kerry's record in Senate

2004-08-02 Thread Robert Munn
>couldnt it be, though, that the changing of the guard here, bush out - >kerry in, would aid in our foreign policy.  it would send the LARGEST >message to the world.  far louder than any incumbent group's policy >shift.  they dont like bush, no one does, and as the days go on, their >anger is fuele

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