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2006-04-25 Thread Nick McClure
with that same name that I should be looking for? -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) oh boy. Try google news. I refuse to believe that that's

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-25 Thread Nick McClure
To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) wow. I am in awe, seriously. Denial is a powerful force. Tim, you've never heard of Seymour Hersh, have you. Or have you just never read careful reporting before? The article may well be coming out of Langley

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-25 Thread Gruss Gott
Dana wrote: But why try to educate you guys? Your minds are made up and...This stuff gets old. Don't worry guys, I speak Dana, I can translate this for you: My case is weak and I'm not good at articulating it so I hide behind assumptions and accusations that allow me to bow out of the

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-25 Thread Loathe
. -- Timothy Heald Analyst, Architect, Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) oh boy. Try google

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-25 Thread Loathe
. -- Timothy Heald Analyst, Architect, Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:07 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) You mean the same Laura Berg

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2006-04-25 Thread Sam
Wow, that's a perfect description of you GG. :) On 4/25/06, Gruss Gott wrote: My case is weak and I'm not good at articulating it so I hide behind assumptions and accusations that allow me to bow out of the discussion with a self-deluded pride. This prevents me from having to face the fact

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-25 Thread Nick McClure
No, that is just criticism. And she wasn't actually charged, she was investigated and found to not be a threat. _ From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:11 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) We need to wake

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-24 Thread Gruss Gott
RoMunn wrote: they are evil. And not in a we kick journalists out of events kind of way. They are evil in a We want to annihilate the population of Israel and the US kind of way. Which is where Dana is breaking the 80/20 rule. Does Bush suck? Sure. Has he made some things worse? Yup. But

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-24 Thread Dana Tierney
, April 23, 2006 4:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) I think this will be the fifth time I have posted it and the third time in this thread. But ok. It is rather important to my opinion that the things you are saying are the administration's public statements

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-24 Thread Dana Tierney
, Architect, Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:45 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) well yes, selective reading would be one

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-24 Thread Dana Tierney
-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:57 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) you're kidding, right? Which human rights have we violated in that past couple of years

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-24 Thread Dana Tierney
, April 23, 2006 5:08 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) ::points and laughs:: It's to nice a day to listen to people shout the neocon party line at me, hehe. ~| Message: http

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-24 Thread Loathe
-3911 -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:26 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) wow. I am in awe, seriously. Denial is a powerful force. Tim, you've never heard of Seymour Hersh, have you

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-24 Thread Loathe
. -- Timothy Heald Analyst, Architect, Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) oh boy. Try google news

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-24 Thread Loathe
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) oh boy. Try google news. I refuse to believe that that's a serious question. We could have a megathread in which copious examples would be cited and at the end Nick would say yeah

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-23 Thread Dana Tierney
I think this will be the fifth time I have posted it and the third time in this thread. But ok. It is rather important to my opinion that the things you are saying are the administration's public statements only, so here it is again. http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060417fa_fact

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2006-04-23 Thread Dana Tierney
well yes, selective reading would be one defense and denial would be another. ::shrug:: Please feel free to believe what validates your previous beliefs. The Pentagon adviser on the war on terror confirmed that some in the Administration were looking seriously at this option, which he linked

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-23 Thread Dana Tierney
except for post-war Iraq and for predicted hurricanes :\ Of course they do, we have plans for EVERYTHING ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:205219 Archives:

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2006-04-23 Thread Dana Tierney
you're kidding, right? Which human rights have we violated in that past couple of years? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:205220 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5

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2006-04-23 Thread Dana Tierney
um, no... It's usually the Canadians and the Australians and a few others in my recollection... They usually ask the US. UN group staffed by Iranians to keep the peace in Israel? ~| Message:

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2006-04-23 Thread Dana Tierney
this thread is about batty civilians telling the Pentagon that they want to use nuclear weapons. If it were me, I'd have worked with the very considerable emigre population in the United States, and refrained from provocations such as stupidly invading its neighbors for reasons still

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-23 Thread Dana Tierney
::points and laughs:: It's to nice a day to listen to people shout the neocon party line at me, hehe. Don't most religious people talk to god? Isn't that what praying is all about? Or do you think there's a burning bush :) in the Whitehouse? I showed you the quote where he says his faith in

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-23 Thread Loathe
23, 2006 4:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) I think this will be the fifth time I have posted it and the third time in this thread. But ok. It is rather important to my opinion that the things you are saying are the administration's public statements only

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-23 Thread Loathe
C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:45 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) well yes, selective reading would be one defense and denial would be another. ::shrug:: Please feel

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-23 Thread Loathe
: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) you're kidding, right? Which human rights have we violated in that past couple of years? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:205233 Archives: http

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-23 Thread Loathe
, 2006 4:59 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) um, no... It's usually the Canadians and the Australians and a few others in my recollection... They usually ask the US. UN group staffed by Iranians to keep the peace in Israel

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-23 Thread Loathe
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 5:08 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) ::points and laughs:: It's to nice a day to listen to people shout the neocon party line at me, hehe. Don't most religious people talk to god? Isn't that what praying is all

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2006-04-23 Thread Robert Munn
That is one interpretation of the situation. Another interpretation is that they are simply repeating what has been stated US policy since the 1950s. Yet another interpretation is that this is all a big bluff on the part of the administration to try to get Iran to back down. But that is just

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-22 Thread Dana Tierney
you still haven't read the Hersh story have you. Little point in continuing the discussion in the circumstances. Nobody is saying lets break out the nukes, they are saying that is we have to we'll use them. ~| Message:

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2006-04-22 Thread Dana Tierney
Bushy is on record as saying he talks to God :) not a good thing in the keeper of nuclear capability imho. I'll ignore your childish swipe at Carter. So you're saying because of Carter they can no longer be trusted? I agree. On 4/21/06, Dana Tierney wrote: He thinks he's on a mission from

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-22 Thread Dana Tierney
-Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 5:50 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) ok, the Russians advocate nuking Iran? Links? Ditto the French, Chinese and Germans. You forgot the Russians, French, Germans

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2006-04-22 Thread Robert Munn
I don't thnk you are stupid at all. I enjoy your participation and your opinions, even when I disagree with you. I just think you are spending so much time focusing on what you perceive to be your enemy - the Bush Administration - that yuou have become blinded to all other threats. How would it

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-22 Thread Dana Tierney
first of all, you assume that my support of the Democrats is as blind as yours to the Republicans sometimes seems to be. Second of all, the embassy takeover was, Jesus, almost thirty years ago. But hey, we used bad behavior that was almost as old as an excuse aganst the Iraqis, so that's ok...

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-22 Thread Nick McClure
I haven't seen a link provided for such story. -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:23 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) you still haven't read the Hersh story have you. Little point

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-22 Thread Nick McClure
Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 5:40 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) I haven't seen a link provided for such story. -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-22 Thread Nick McClure
Which human rights have we violated in that past couple of years? -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 9:22 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) like the United States, you mean

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-22 Thread Nick McClure
Of course they do, we have plans for EVERYTHING -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 9:24 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) that's the public position, yes. They really are making plans

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-22 Thread Nick McClure
They usually ask the US. -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 9:26 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) how does it provide peace-keeping forces now? Even if the UN body itself has good

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2006-04-22 Thread Robert Munn
Yes, the Embassy thing was almost 30 years ago, and the same murderous regime has been in charge of Iran ever since. For most of that span, they have had a hidden nuclear program that a prudent person can only assume, like the rest of the hidden nuclear programs that have been sniffed out over the

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2006-04-22 Thread Sam
Don't most religious people talk to god? Isn't that what praying is all about? Or do you think there's a burning bush :) in the Whitehouse? I showed you the quote where he says his faith in god has no influence over his decisions in running the country. Carter created serious problems in the

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2006-04-22 Thread Gruss Gott
RoMunn wrote: save for the fact that they cut my taxes, so that's ok by me. Isn't that like saying that the thief who robbed your savings, but gave you $100 on his way out, is a heckuva guy? ~| Message:

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2006-04-22 Thread Robert Munn
Considering that the other set of thieves waiting in the the wings would have taken my savings, the $100, and lifted my house right off its foundation and carted it away as well, I'm ahead. The unfortunate reality is that the Democrats and the Republicans both seem intent on ruining the long term

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-22 Thread Gruss Gott
RoMunn wrote: Considering that the other set of thieves waiting in the the wings would have taken my savings, the $100, and lifted my house right off its foundation and carted it away as well, I'm ahead. The implicit mistake in your logic is that one party can be the holder of financial

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-21 Thread Vivec
Burning coal? You should all be shot. What's the cost to the environment for the tonnes of fossil fuels you pump into the air every year?? On 4/20/06, Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we have it wrong. Instead of burning coal and having the lowest energy costs in the country, we in

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2006-04-21 Thread Vivec
Agreed, they are all telling Iran to stand down. Very, very true. They are all concerned. but they are not all advocating launching nuclear missiles at Iran. Only the United States is doing that, and therein lies the context of the subject matter of this post. On 4/20/06, Jeff Garza [EMAIL

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2006-04-21 Thread G
Boo hoo. Quit cryin' ya hippie. It's Friday.. Burning coal? You should all be shot. What's the cost to the environment for the tonnes of fossil fuels you pump into the air every year?? On 4/20/06, Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we have it wrong. Instead of burning coal and

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-21 Thread Nick McClure
Dunno, but we figured out a way to do it in a fairly clean way. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 8:17 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) Burning coal? You should all be shot. What's the cost

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-21 Thread Nick McClure
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 8:18 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) Agreed, they are all telling Iran to stand down. Very, very true. They are all concerned. but they are not all advocating launching nuclear missiles at Iran. Only

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2006-04-21 Thread Vivec
---is choking and gasping for breath already Ack! Ack! urrk! urrk! .* On 4/21/06, Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno, but we figured out a way to do it in a fairly clean way. ~| Message:

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2006-04-21 Thread G
Hey, puff puff pass man.. ---is choking and gasping for breath already Ack! Ack! urrk! urrk! .* On 4/21/06, Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno, but we figured out a way to do it in a fairly clean way.

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2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
not already at war with these people? -- Timothy Heald Analyst, Architect, Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:10 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-21 Thread Nick McClure
Say what you want, but burning coal isn't what it used to be, new technologies prevent the release of certain gasses. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 8:26 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry

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2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
own life. -- Timothy Heald Analyst, Architect, Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:25 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) He

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2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
You should all be shot. Ladies and gentleman, I give you the left. -- Timothy Heald Analyst, Architect, Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 8:17 AM

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
: Friday, April 21, 2006 8:18 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) Agreed, they are all telling Iran to stand down. Very, very true. They are all concerned. but they are not all advocating launching nuclear missiles at Iran. Only the United States is doing

Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-21 Thread Vivec
-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) Agreed, they are all telling Iran to stand down. Very, very true. They are all concerned. but they are not all advocating launching nuclear missiles at Iran. Only the United States is doing that, and therein lies the context

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2006-04-21 Thread G
The Bolton/Bush agenda reflects a misguided belief that absolute US sovereignty should take precedence over international cooperation. It also sends a message that the US government feels no responsibility towards-or compassion for-the world's poor. ] I am completely sick of this bullshit. If

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2006-04-21 Thread Vivec
*smirk* I was quite clearly joking and did not mean it in any way seriously. LOL! On 4/21/06, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should all be shot. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:204983 Archives:

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2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
, April 21, 2006 8:18 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) Agreed, they are all telling Iran to stand down. Very, very true. They are all concerned. but they are not all advocating launching nuclear missiles at Iran. Only the United States is doing

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2006-04-21 Thread Gruss Gott
Gel wrote: it outlines the United States' view of the world, it's goals and its ambitions. These goals are complete domination, disregard for International Co-operation, holding the concerns of Profit for Corporations over concerns for Humanity and the poor, and a concerted effort to Gut

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2006-04-21 Thread Vivec
Well of course it isn't effective. How can it be effective when the US tries to gut it and stymie all its policies and stated aims? On 4/21/06, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am completely sick of this bullshit. If the UN was capable of wiping it's own ass, the US wouldn't have to be the one

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2006-04-21 Thread Vivec
Ok...my time for list chat for the moment is up, and I have not found the quote from Bolton. So for now, I will have to say that you are correct and it was never categorically stated that the US will strike at Iran with a nuclear weapon, however I will say that it has been openly implied by the

RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :)

2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) *smirk* I was quite clearly joking and did not mean it in any way seriously. LOL! On 4/21/06, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should all be shot. ~| Message: http

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2006-04-21 Thread Nick McClure
The US wasn't trying to guy the thing several years ago, and it was still useless. Look at North and South Korea. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 9:21 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) Well

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2006-04-21 Thread Nick McClure
Guy = gut -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 9:24 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) The US wasn't trying to guy the thing several years ago, and it was still useless. Look at North

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2006-04-21 Thread Vivec
Yes. Me, and world leaders that are concerned about the same thing. And you are so very right, it is ludicrous for the US to think it can even hope to acheive that goal through force. The US does deserve it's own comedy channel under the direction of Bush. It would be so very funny, if it didn't

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2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
: Friday, April 21, 2006 9:22 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) Well of course it isn't effective. How can it be effective when the US tries to gut it and stymie all its policies and stated aims? On 4/21/06, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am completely sick

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2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 9:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) tBone wrote: The UN should be gutted. It's insane to expect that ANY sovereign

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2006-04-21 Thread Gruss Gott
tBone wrote: The UN should be gutted. It's insane to expect that ANY sovereign nation would want some third party, potentially made up of his enemies, telling him how to run his country. I disagree with you big time on this. I think the only way to prevent war is to have a 3rd party that

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2006-04-21 Thread Gruss Gott
Gel wrote: Yes. Me, and world leaders that are concerned about the same thing. You, of all people, should know this kind of goofy paranoia is BS - you talk to Americans every day and only one of us, Sam, is an Autocrat. The rest are, to one degree or another, highly critical of this

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2006-04-21 Thread Gruss Gott
tBone wrote: What continue to spiral? We are in the middle of a world war. No we're not, we've got a crime problem. When Tim McVeigh blew up the fed building, that wasn't a war. Just a crime. it would polarize nations against each other, not stopping wars, but leading to them. Somebody

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2006-04-21 Thread Nick McClure
OK, if you could point out a way to create a 3rd party with the moral high ground that would be great. But when they put known human rights violators as the chair for the committee to prevent human rights then they've lost the high ground. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott

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2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) tBone wrote: What continue to spiral? We are in the middle of a world war. No we're not, we've got a crime problem. When Tim McVeigh blew up the fed building, that wasn't a war. Just a crime. it would polarize nations

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2006-04-21 Thread Nick McClure
What about the bang up job they did in Bosnia, Somalia, and Korea? In the first Gulf War it was still the US pushing it, and the UN went along for the ride. However when the UN tries to do something, it fails. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Somebody

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2006-04-21 Thread Jeff Garza
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 5:18 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) Agreed, they are all telling Iran to stand down. Very, very true. They are all concerned. but they are not all advocating launching nuclear missiles at Iran. Only the United

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2006-04-21 Thread Vivec
you are NOT in government are you. You do not set the policy of your nation,and the US is a democracy, which means that the present Administration was freely voted in by Americans. So how can you expect people outside America to be of the opinion that these guys just happened to get into power and

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2006-04-21 Thread Nick McClure
Just two. -Original Message- From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:00 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) The United States is not advocating launching nukes at Iran. They are simply stating that it's

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2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) you are NOT in government are you. You do not set the policy of your nation,and the US is a democracy, which means that the present Administration was freely voted in by Americans. So how can you expect people outside America to be of the opinion that these guys just

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2006-04-21 Thread Jeff Garza
Since WWI... -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 7:02 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) Just two. -Original Message- From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April

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2006-04-21 Thread Gruss Gott
Nick wrote: OK, if you could point out a way to create a 3rd party with the moral high ground that would be great. Well, this is just off of the top of my head, but here goes: Create a 3 part UN - (1.) Governance 1.a) Executive - voted in by world elected

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2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) Nick wrote: OK, if you could point out a way to create a 3rd party

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2006-04-21 Thread Nick McClure
Who is going to be a part of those military forces? If the military forces are provided by member nations, then they will have different commanders with different motives. Even if the UN body itself has good intentions, how will they order a UN group staffed by Iranians to keep the peace in

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2006-04-21 Thread G
The UN just voted an Iranian delegation to be in charge of a UN commission.the commission? Nuclear arms limitation and non-proliferation. Yep...that's our UN! Who is going to be a part of those military forces? If the military forces are provided by member nations, then they will have

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2006-04-21 Thread Nick McClure
I just fell out of my chair. -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:39 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) The UN just voted an Iranian delegation to be in charge of a UN commission

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2006-04-21 Thread Sam
On 4/21/06, Gruss Gott wrote: You, of all people, should know this kind of goofy paranoia is BS - you talk to Americans every day and only one of us, Sam, is an Autocrat. The rest are, to one degree or another, highly critical of this administration and its policies. So anyone that's not

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2006-04-21 Thread Sam
Wow, you missed a lot while you were away. I was wondering why you thought he was on your side. He was all for turning our military over to the UN and letting them call all the shots. On 4/21/06, Loathe wrote: That's a world government. The whole 1984 new world order nonsense bro. Never

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2006-04-21 Thread Nick McClure
Well, first, I'm not highly critical, they have done things I'm not happy about, but I'm not highly critical. And that 33% rating is a very interesting number, in the past we have found the polls have been highly slanted to democratic poll takers, and they have been based on regions that are

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2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
-Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 12:38 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) Well, first, I'm not highly critical, they have done things I'm not happy about, but I'm not highly critical. And that 33

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2006-04-21 Thread Gruss Gott
tBone wrote: That's a world government. The whole 1984 new world order nonsense bro. That's what people hyperbolize it into, but it's not. It's simply a peace keeping and humanitarian body that we can assign the problems to that nobody wants. I bet if we took a poll, just about everyone in

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2006-04-21 Thread Robert Munn
And this in the middle of a reform agenda at the UN. Sheesh. You know what the UN is? The cushiest job a bureaucrat could ever want. Live in NYC, ignore traffic laws, get fat off of corrupt UN programs, and then bash the U.S. (host of the U.N. and underwriter of 25% of its budget). Wax eloquent

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2006-04-21 Thread Sam
Maybe the UN should bomb the shit out of the non-Muslims again, like they did in Serbia. That'll fix the problem. Oh yeah, that was Clintons idea so it was a good thing. When Hillary becomes pres she will convince the UN to protect the Janjaweed from those evil rebels. On 4/21/06, Gut rot wrote:

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2006-04-21 Thread Loathe
Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 4:19 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) tBone wrote: That's a world government. The whole 1984 new world order nonsense bro. That's what people hyperbolize it into, but it's

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2006-04-21 Thread Dana Tierney
you mean the same British that said that any talk about using nuclear weapons against Iran was just crazy? Those British? You and I don't seem to read the same news somehow. Oh great... Here she goes... We've been lied to again. But wait... This time we're being lied to by the British, the

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2006-04-21 Thread Dana Tierney
. -Original Message- From: Michael Bramwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:50 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) Ok I'm late into this thread so the point may have already been raised but what the hey... Yesterday

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2006-04-21 Thread Dana Tierney
pft. It must really give you comfort to think that people who disagree with you are that stupid. I have no desire to see Iran with a bomb. I wish Bush, who is also insane, didn't have any to play with either. I don't think the Iranians *do* have a a bomb, and possibly they aren't even trying to

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2006-04-21 Thread Dana Tierney
reamins to be seen. But a comic book character nonetheless? The Decider is one of the good guys. :) On 4/20/06, Dana Tierney wrote: what's this? Sam is going off the Bushies? I'll alert the media. I think Marvel is working it up.

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2006-04-21 Thread Gruss Gott
tBone wrote: They are not our problem. As far as I am concerned humanitarian should never be used outside of domestic issues. Well, beyond the moral objections, I would argue that it becomes our problem either due to immigration, terrorism, or crime. Peace, law, and order are in all of our

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2006-04-21 Thread Dana Tierney
Heald Analyst, Architect, Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:25 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bush reconfirms nuking Iran, sorry :) He they lied to us last time too

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2006-04-21 Thread Gruss Gott
Dana wrote: I wish Bush, who is also insane, didn't have any to play with either. Nobody dislikes Bush's policies more than me (well, you do), but he's not insane. He's ... misguided. I don't think the Iranians *do* have a a bomb, and possibly they aren't even trying to get one. Wake up,

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2006-04-21 Thread Dana Tierney
I was right with you until you brought up Helen Thomas? WTF? The women was a respected journalist for decades, so sorry she asked a question Bush hadn't memorized an answer for ;) So anyone that's not highly critical of the admin is an autocrat? Are you that simple minded that anyone that

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