"Now, even though the Conservatives, and Harper, are Bush and Republican
wannabes, "
If they are Bush and Republican wannabes, then they aren't necessarily
conservative.
"the republicans are extremely to the right of the Conservative Party of
Canada. "
Then the conservative Party of Canada mu
let me put it this way when I left the Tory party in Canada was
slightly to the left of the Republicans under Bob Dole. Now, even
though the Conservatives, and Harper, are Bush and Republican
wannabes, the republicans are extremely to the right of the
Conservative Party of Canada. That is in spite
I left Canada to go to grad school. I was accepted into York when the
Tory government at the time essentially zero'd out all social sciences
research funding. The prof who I was to work with called me up and
told me about his NSC grant getting cancelled. I was still accepted
into York but would ha
Good. I was going to be pretty disappointed (and confused) if you supported
him. He's destroying the country.
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> No I left before that. thank goodness - I really do not like Bush Lite.
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Medic wrote:
> >
No I left before that. thank goodness - I really do not like Bush Lite.
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Medic wrote:
>
>>
>> > Before I left the United States I was a fully paid member of the
>> Conservative Party of Canada. My views have not changed much.
>
>
> Do you support Harper?
>
>
>
~
"Before I left the United States I was a fully paid member of the
Conservative Party of Canada. "
How much did they pay you?
"My views have not changed much. "
I don't doubt it.
"I suspect its more like the so-called conservatives in the US has gone far
to the right of moderate conservatism
>
> > Before I left the United States I was a fully paid member of the
> Conservative Party of Canada. My views have not changed much.
Do you support Harper?
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not really. Before I left the United States I was a fully paid member
of the Conservative Party of Canada. My views have not changed much. I
suspect its more like the so-called conservatives in the US has gone
far to the right of moderate conservatism and well into the realm of
extremism. It looks
"Larry, you've got to realize to a lot of conservatives, anyone to the left
of them, no matter how far right of center they may be, is a liberal."
And conversely, anyone to the right of a liberal is a conservative. So, in
Larry's case, Mother Jones becomes a conservative.
J
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No man's life,
And in terms of your twisted logic have you hugged a Klansman? Or a nazi?
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> New PSA's:
> Have you hugged a terrorist today?
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:33 PM, denstar wrote:
>
>> I feel we should preach tolerance. Even for "radicals", so long a
That put him in 39th place amongst Senators at the time.
What was your point again?
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> the point is that not calling him a conservative is just radicalist
> conservative hypocrisy.
>
New PSA's:
Have you hugged a terrorist today?
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:33 PM, denstar wrote:
> I feel we should preach tolerance. Even for "radicals", so long as
> they ain't hurt'n no one.
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Larry, you've got to realize to a lot of conservatives, anyone to the left of
them, no matter how far right of center they may be, is a liberal.
On Sep 24, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> the point is that not calling him a conservative is just radicalist
> conservative hypocrisy.
"the point is that not calling him a conservative is just radicalist
conservative hypocrisy."
And by calling him a conservative, we would be lying. What a choice.
Same goes for the One. By not calling him a left wing extremist, one is
submitting to radicalist liberal hypocrisy.
J
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No man
the point is that not calling him a conservative is just radicalist
conservative hypocrisy.
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "As for McCain, remember that John McCain's lifetime American Conservative
> Union (ACU) rating is 82.3%."
>
>
> And your point? A chimp and huma
"As for McCain, remember that John McCain's lifetime American Conservative
Union (ACU) rating is 82.3%."
And your point? A chimp and human have a 96% DNA match. It's what's in the
4% that makes a difference, or in this case, the 17.7%.
J
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No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:02 PM, denstar wrote:
...
>> What do you have against Muslims?
>
> Nothing, except the ones that serve food during Ramadan, I still like
> them too but wish they would take the time off.
>
> Radicals are a different story a
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:02 PM, denstar wrote:
>> Why, they were asked politely to move it. Why the outrage?
>
> I'm not rage'n.
>
> What do you have against Muslims?
Nothing, except the ones that serve food during Ramadan, I still like
them too but wish they would take the time off.
Radicals
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:41 AM, denstar wrote:
>
Aren't a lot of these folks the same ones saying building a Mosque is
verboten?
>>> It's one mosque in particular they don't wantbuilt and it turns up to
>>> be a good isea not to build. I
Are you saying you're being enslaved by Christianity because the ten
commandments are on buildings? Does it bother you that much?
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> Why did slavery bother the third generation after the start of this
> country. I guess following the cons
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:41 AM, denstar wrote:
>>> Aren't a lot of these folks the same ones saying building a Mosque is
>>> verboten?
>> It's one mosque in particular they don't wantbuilt and it turns up to
>> be a good isea not to build. If we don't build it the bad men will get
>> us.
>
>
Yeah...keep on believing that Jerry...
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From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:41 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!
"But that's sorta how the parties are. Republi
Why did slavery bother the third generation after the start of this
country. I guess following the constitution isn't that important.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Not me, those buildings in DC were built a long time ago. Why does it
> bother this generation?
>
>
> On Thu, Sep
lol. Apropos!
I think.
Mostly I just wanted to use that word. :)
:Den
--
Admiration for a quality or an art can be so strong that it deters us
from striving to possess it.
Friedrich Nietzsche
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Casey Dougall wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, denstar
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "Select few? Bull. Shit. Just look at this list (tiny and non-average tho
> it be). There is *one* party that thinks it's shit don't stink, and it
> starts with an "R". The other guys aren't all "blind faith", tho that
> doesn't stop the
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "But that's sorta how the parties are. Republicans stick
> together, Democrats can barely keep it together long enough to bust a nut."
>
> I call bull shit. It's actually the complete opposite.
>
> When pollsters ask the American people wh
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, denstar wrote:
>>
>>> So it's an emotional thingy that you can't really explain but you know
>>> it ruined this country.
>>
>> Not ruined, but pushed us pretty far down a dark path.
>
> You and your dark path. Stay a
I guess a lot of things would be a religion in your eyes then. Is the
geek-squad a religion. They advertise that they can "fix" anything.
What's funny is that I don't consider a christian billboard to be
prosthelytizing at all, I consider it advertising.
On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:12 PM, C.
"Select few? Bull. Shit. Just look at this list (tiny and non-average tho
it be). There is *one* party that thinks it's shit don't stink, and it
starts with an "R". The other guys aren't all "blind faith", tho that
doesn't stop the accusations."
When I said select few, I meant voters. It see
"But that's sorta how the parties are. Republicans stick
together, Democrats can barely keep it together long enough to bust a nut."
I call bull shit. It's actually the complete opposite.
When pollsters ask the American people whether they are likely to vote
Republican or Democrat in the next
"Don't forget Woodrow Wilson. Both FDR and Johnson cut their teeth under
the progressive hero Wilson."
Oops. I meant FDR cut his teeth under Wilson and Johnson cut his teeth
under FDR.
J
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No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in
session. - Mark Twain
The artif
"Blame FDR and Johnson for Social Security and Medicare, and technology for
making it possible to locate knowledge workers anywhere in the world."
Don't forget Woodrow Wilson. Both FDR and Johnson cut their teeth under the
progressive hero Wilson.
J
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No man's life, liberty, or property is sa
Not me, those buildings in DC were built a long time ago. Why does it
bother this generation?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Sam bloviated:
>>
> So you have no objections to shoving the Christian religion down the
> throats of those
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, denstar wrote:
>
>> So it's an emotional thingy that you can't really explain but you know
>> it ruined this country.
>
> Not ruined, but pushed us pretty far down a dark path.
You and your dark path. Stay away from the black hash dude :)
> Fear isn't healthy, m
> Organized? You have got to be kidding.
Nope -
http://www.atheists.org/ - American Atheists
http://www.atheistalliance.org/ - Atheist Alliance International
http://www.causes.com/causes/421 - American Atheist Organization
http://www.americanhumanist.org/ - American Humanist Alliance
> I was als
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
> Like I said, plenty of blame to go around. Both Obama and Bush have
> their shares. I think it'd be a hard sell to blame FDR and Johnson. If
> they had the bulk of the blame we would have seen a huge recession a lot
> sooner I think.
Reagan
Organized? You have got to be kidding.
I was also referring to people who are followers of Hinduism,
Buddhism, basically any of the non-Christian religions.
as for the stuff about advertising, so its OK for the Methodists or
Catholics or Mormons to advertise, but not those who do not believe in
> So you have no objections to shoving the Christian religion down the
> throats of those who are not Christian?
So you have no objections to atheism (or the organized religion that
atheism has become... active advertising to "fix" Christians is
prosthelytizing in my eyes which makes it a religio
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Sam bloviated:
>
>> Lord, man, look at all the hubbub about "we need God back in government!",
>> etc..
>
> You misrepresent this all the time, they want people to stop attacking
> religion and allow people to say Merry Christmas. They're not trying
> to add the
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, denstar wrote:
> Totally.
>
> And if you don't think so, you'll probably DIE! We're all DOOMED, man,
> DOOMED!
>
> You'd better get right with God, esse! ;)p
>
> :Den
>
Bob Dylan, Everything is Broken - Commentary Breakdown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJQ
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:54 PM, denstar wrote:
>>
>>> What did the puppet master do to make a ten year depression?
>>> Something so bad that even the Obama can't get us out of it?
>>
>> I'm not talking solely about the economy. I'm talking about
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:54 PM, denstar wrote:
>
>> What did the puppet master do to make a ten year depression?
>> Something so bad that even the Obama can't get us out of it?
>
> I'm not talking solely about the economy. I'm talking about America, yo!
So it's an emotional thingy that you ca
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "We'll be feeling the effects of the last administration for at least 10
> years, remember?"
>
> That's the problem. Seem like almost everybody but a select few want to
> pick one party to blame. There is plenty of blame to spread around
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> What did the puppet master do to make a ten year depression?
> Something so bad that even the Obama can't get us out of it?
I'm not talking solely about the economy. I'm talking about America, yo!
Lord, man, look at all the hubbub about "we need
Well then that makes it OK.
Move along, nothing to see here.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> The dropping of coverage on children is actually a 3 month old story...not a
> week old one.
~|
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The dropping of coverage on children is actually a 3 month old story...not a
week old one.
Eric
-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:40 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you
Are you TRYING to give us all nightmares?
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:58 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!
-snip-
Watch out for a bipartisan Palin/Clinton tiicket
"We'll be feeling the effects of the last administration for at least 10
years, remember?"
That's the problem. Seem like almost everybody but a select few want to
pick one party to blame. There is plenty of blame to spread around and it
goes back further than one administration.
For example,
Too true. That's why the Tea Party is trying to flush the RINO's out.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "epilogue: After winning the White House, Republicans will go off on some
> foolish social values wedge issue and turn independent voters against them,
> insuring Dem
As for McCain, remember that John McCain's lifetime American
Conservative Union (ACU) rating is 82.3%.
So what are you saying that the ACU isn't conservative?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "No matter what the Republicans promise, they cannot win the White House
> wi
That's cute.
Is that your argument? You can't prove it's 0's fault so he's not to
blame. I bet you still blame Bush without that kind of proof.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
wrote:
>
> So what percentage do you think it would have been without the stimulus?
> Does anyone
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:03 PM, G Money wrote:
>
>
> WE're not being told it's over...it IS over. You expect everything to be
> happy-happy-joy-joy the day the recession ends?
Uh yeah, that's the way it usually works. I'm baffled as to why you
would think suddenly a shitty economy a year after
"epilogue: After winning the White House, Republicans will go off on some
foolish social values wedge issue and turn independent voters against them,
insuring Democrats a mid-term win in 2014."
Just like clockwork.
J
-
No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in
s
"No matter what the Republicans promise, they cannot win the White House
without a viable candidate, and right now they have none."
The GOP has a fantastic history of nominating people who seem destined to
lose.
Bob Dole. Give me a break. The sad thing is, he probably would have won if
Perot w
So what percentage do you think it would have been without the stimulus? Does
anyone have any proof one way or the other what it would have been?
On Sep 23, 2010, at 11:57 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
> The stimulus was supposed to keep unemployment under 8% - it didn't.
> Cash for clunkers
> But "trickle down" works, and we should trust CEOs to have *our* best
> interests at heart. Sure...
Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say that, nor did anything that
I said imply that. I'm not making a case of equivalence nor do I ask
you to. CEO's should have their stock-holders best i
> WE're not being told it's over...it IS over. You expect everything to be
> happy-happy-joy-joy the day the recession ends?
No, but 20 months later I would have expected to see more private
industry growth and lower unemployment.
Maybe that's just me not being patient enough.
~
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:11 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!
Our current problems are structural. Blame FDR and Johnson for Social
Security and Medicare, and technology for making it possible to locate
knowledge workers anywhe
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:57 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
>
>> I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly related to the
>> last Republican in office.
>
> After this long in office, I don't buy that line. The current
> President has implemented his economic and social agenda so far
Our current problems are structural. Blame FDR and Johnson for Social
Security and Medicare, and technology for making it possible to locate
knowledge workers anywhere in the world. Blame short-sighted CEOs for
chasing quarterly profits at the cost of our industrial base and
increasingly our techn
What did the puppet master do to make a ten year depression?
Something so bad that even the Obama can't get us out of it?
Damn those string pullers!
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, denstar wrote:
>
> It's not Bush I blame so much as the mentality. He was just a
> figurehead. Trickle-down w
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:57 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
>
> And now, we're told by experts, the recession ended in June of 2009!
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100920/bs_nm/us_usa_economy_nber -
> Recession ended in June 2009: NBER
>
WE're not being told it's over...it IS over. You expect ev
C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:58 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!
> I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly related to the
> last Republican in office.
After this long in off
The recession was caused by the mandatory home loans to anybody that asked.
Bush is only to blame for that because he didn't try hard enough to
stop what the democrats put into action. The banks have recovered and
are doing very well while Freddie and Fanny are still underwater. The
TARP money fai
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> You can't blame Bush anymore. His recession ended last year. This is
> not a recession, it's the way of life under Obama. And as he said it
> will last a long time.
It's not Bush I blame so much as the mentality. He was just a
figurehead. Trickle
er of
some of it. As are Obama and a couple thousand rich businessmen.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:44 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!
You can't blame Bush anymore. His
How do we know it's working? When we hit 50% unemployment?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:54 PM, denstar wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
> ...
>> No, this is reality. Stark, cold reality that some people won't
>> acknowledge because they bought in to a dream
> I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly related to the
> last Republican in office.
After this long in office, I don't buy that line. The current
President has implemented his economic and social agenda so far as he
has been able to, which is to say most of it. He has dug a de
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
...
> No, this is reality. Stark, cold reality that some people won't
> acknowledge because they bought in to a dream and don't want to wake
> up from it.
If you were expecting massive reform to be all sunshine and rainbows
from the get
You can't blame Bush anymore. His recession ended last year. This is
not a recession, it's the way of life under Obama. And as he said it
will last a long time.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:40 PM, denstar wrote:
>
> I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly related to the
> last Rep
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Sam wrote:
...
> You would if there was a republican in office.
I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly related to the
last Republican in office.
But it's cool-- people's memory is short, and that can be leveraged.
The way of the world, I reckon
>> The industry that I work in is directly impacted by the health care
>> bill. In addition, my health insurance premiums were increased by
>> more than the anticipated amount once it was passed. My wife had to
>> start working again after being a stay-at-home-mom (a job in itself)
>> for 6 year
You are really foul.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> My suffering is from listening to you on your knees gagging about how
> great he is and how awful everyone who's not on the knee line is.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:51 AM, G Money wrote:
>>
>> I'm not suffering.
>>
>> Is
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> You would if there was a republican in office.
>
You described me to a T! I'm a republican partisan shill! I mean, it's
obvious from my posts over the years!
Well done, Sam!
--
Glittering prizes and endless compromises
Shatter the illusion of
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM, G Money wrote:
> Perhaps, but there is also a perception issue at play. For instance, it
> could be possible to ask 10 people if they think times are tough, and all 10
> can say "yes!". Then when you ask, "are times tough for YOU", all ten answer
> "No".
Or all
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:53 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
>
> The industry that I work in is directly impacted by the health care
> bill. In addition, my health insurance premiums were increased by
> more than the anticipated amount once it was passed. My wife had to
> start working again aft
we are, but I don't know that it's Congress' fault, we're being denied
coverage for my daughter's nursing care (1 year old with a fresh trach
tube, dr prescribed 24 hour nursing care), and it's something that may
have been covered if it wasn't so close to the laws changing.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 a
> Is anyone on this list actually suffering? And if so, is it Obamas fault you
> are suffering?
The industry that I work in is directly impacted by the health care
bill. In addition, my health insurance premiums were increased by
more than the anticipated amount once it was passed. My wife had
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> My suffering is from listening to you on your knees gagging about how
> great he is and how awful everyone who's not on the knee line is.
>
Yep, that's me to a T!
Well done Sam!
--
Glittering prizes and endless compromises
Shatter the illusion
No. Now get back in line.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Medic wrote:
>
> Jealous much?
>
>
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Jealous much?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> My suffering is from listening to you on your knees gagging about how
> great he is and how awful everyone who's not on the knee line is.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:51 AM, G Money wrote:
> >
> > I'm not suffering.
> >
> > Is a
My suffering is from listening to you on your knees gagging about how
great he is and how awful everyone who's not on the knee line is.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:51 AM, G Money wrote:
>
> I'm not suffering.
>
> Is anyone on this list actually suffering? And if so, is it Obamas fault you
> are s
I'm not suffering.
Is anyone on this list actually suffering? And if so, is it Obamas fault you
are suffering?
Sam, how has Barack Obama, in 2 years, caused you suffering?
Just curious.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> I'm sure you said that about Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43 (
I'm sure you said that about Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43 (twice).
Just a reminder, the Dems didn't have a viable candidate candidate the
last go round and we're all suffering for it.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Maureen wrote:
>
> No matter what the Republicans promise, they cannot win the
No matter what the Republicans promise, they cannot win the White
House without a viable candidate, and right now they have none.
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
>
> 4. Republicans will win the White House in 2012 promising to repeal
> most of Obamacare.
~~~
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