we've told you this time and time again Sam, opinion pieces are not
data. Its fits within the rule that anecdote is not the singular of
data.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/09/10/are_democrats_really_the_pro-science_party_115367.htm
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/09/10/are_democrats_really_the_pro-science_party_115367.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2012/11/08/enviro-romanticism-alert-obama-won-but-can-he-shake-the-anti-innovation-junk-science-beliefs-of-his-base/
.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:08
Do we really want to discuss the integrity of Jones, Mann and Hansen?
.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> Yes its all a liberal plot.
>
> In the 70's about 60% or so of all scientist who were members of the
> AAAS were republican. According to the most recent surveys on
Yes its all a liberal plot.
In the 70's about 60% or so of all scientist who were members of the
AAAS were republican. According to the most recent surveys only about
6% are republican. When asked why, the vast majority cited Republican
policies on science.
Ever think that its not an automatic l
I pay 800 a month to participate in the high risk insurance pool. The pool
pays 80% of my medical and 50% of my drugs. In that last year I've had
over 200K in medical, of which I had to personally pay roughly 40K. My
heart surgery last December was 126K, which was 25K out of pocket. I had
one
Awful, its legal robbery.
I remember seeing an interesting comparison between the costs
associated with a single payer system and the current system. (I'll
have to try and dig it up again, this was during the original debate
on the ACA). And the choice was essentially, perhaps a 5 to 8 % in
taxes
I feel for both of you. Between my son's therapy (which is about $150 per
month just in co-pays) his leg brace (about $800 a year) and the
reconstructive surgery he had on his leg in September, I am not sure how we
could have afforded it all were it not for our insurance.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at
I feel for ya man. This is awful.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> For us it is $14,000 (insurance plus deductible) for me alone. Wendy
> and Alexis (they had to go on a separate plan), added on another
> $8500. And its very easy for the insurance company to deny serv
For us it is $14,000 (insurance plus deductible) for me alone. Wendy
and Alexis (they had to go on a separate plan), added on another
$8500. And its very easy for the insurance company to deny service. If
one of us gets hospitalized, we'd be in serious trouble.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:51 PM, GM
Well yeah, i mean, it's better to have some help than none at all. But i
don't exactly have $4000 grand lying around...or worse$12,000...which
is my new out of pocket maximum next year.
I guess i should be thankful i had my back surgery this yearcost me
$800...instead of $4000+
On Tue,
Academia is well known to be liberal so if you spend enough time there
and get tenure work part time and live of f the land.
.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:47 PM, GMoney wrote:
> No education: Democrat
> HIGHEST education: Democrat
>
> It may just be that there really is no rhyme or reason to a
One visit to the emergency room can be well beyond the $4000. With
office visits around $200 or so for a basic wellness exam,
prescriptions etc. it should be obvious that without the insurance you
can get bankrupted very quickly. With G's (and my) insurance, its not
quite as fast.
On Tue, Nov 13,
HA!
Nice.i guess i just have to laugh in spite of this whole
thing..*sigh*
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> " . . .with a $4000 deductible before insurance even kicks in, and even
> then they only pay 65%why have insurance at all?"
>
> Because it's the la
" . . .with a $4000 deductible before insurance even kicks in, and even
then they only pay 65%why have insurance at all?"
Because it's the law.
J
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08-11-2009: I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter, because,
frankly, we historically have had a employer-based system in this c
No doubt. The education numbers are fascinating.
the non graduates are all democrat.
Then when you progress through high school and college, a fluctuation
between lib and conserv.
Then once you graduate college, it's RepublicanUNLESS...you go back to
school and get a postgraduate degree. Th
Thank you Sam, I stand corrected.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> http://elections.msnbc.msn.com/ns/politics/2012/all/president/#.UKJ9J-TBESE
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Vivec wrote:
>>
>> Oooh!! Where'd you get these? linky! linky!
>> I haven't seen these figures
This is fantastic Sam, thanks :-)
>
> >
> http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/national-exit-polls.html
>
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I think there is a lot that can be read into those numbers. But,
interesting none the less.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> more so with Obama.
>
>
> http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/national-exit-polls.html
>
>
> .
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Scot
I was wrong when I said all groups had fewer votes for Obama. It
appears Asians and Latinos voted in greater number for O while Blacks
and Whites voted less.
.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Sam wrote:
> more so with Obama.
>
> http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/national-exi
more so with Obama.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/national-exit-polls.html
.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> InterestingI wonder if this differs from past elections.
>
>
>
~
InterestingI wonder if this differs from past elections.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> http://elections.msnbc.msn.com/ns/politics/2012/all/president/#.UKJ9J-TBESE
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Vivec wrote:
> >
> > Oooh!! Where'd you get these? linky! linky!
nice numbers where did you get them from, aside from the obvious.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> Why do you always question me and then slink away when I provide you
> proof. You never learn do you?
>
> 2011 total family income:
> Total Obama
http://elections.msnbc.msn.com/ns/politics/2012/all/president/#.UKJ9J-TBESE
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
> Oooh!! Where'd you get these? linky! linky!
> I haven't seen these figures floating around social media yet. THis is good
> stuff.
>
>
> On 13 November 2012 11:04, Sam
Oooh!! Where'd you get these? linky! linky!
I haven't seen these figures floating around social media yet. THis is good
stuff.
On 13 November 2012 11:04, Sam wrote:
>
> Why do you always question me and then slink away when I provide you
> proof. You never learn do you?
>
> 2011 total family i
Why do you always question me and then slink away when I provide you
proof. You never learn do you?
2011 total family income:
Total Obama Romney
Under $30,000 20% 63% 35%
$30,000 - $49,999 21% 57% 42%
$50,000
Still no real numbers, just blowing it out again.
Sam what part of showing the evidence do you not understand. A
repeated assertion is just that. And please the big lie technique you
use doesn't work anymore.
Either show the data or admit you're full of shite.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:08 AM,
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> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:31 AM
> > To: cf-community
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> -Original Message-
> From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:31 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/
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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:47 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different perspective
I'm sure, from your own comments I doubt strongly that oyou would associate
with people that held different
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> From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:09 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different perspective
>
>
> The bulk of people earning over $50k a year voted R. The Blue bloods, the
> students and
GMoney wrote:
>
> So that is a slight help. Shrinks my paycheck every time, but hopefully by
> my first medical expense, i've got enough in there to at least help cover
> it. It really comes down to this though: Don't get sick next year.
>
>
I'm not a fan of ObamaCare because it addresses the wr
"I would say it's just my company trying to screw me over and use Obama
care as an excuse, but it's happening to my friends at their companies as
well."
Elections have consequences.
"The HSA is nice, provides the same pre-tax money, but then i'm not subject
to the 1 year limit of the FSA.
"The bulk of people earning over $50k a year voted R. "
Except for the top .5%. Solidly in the D camp.
J
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From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:51 AM
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That could certainly be the case, Scott
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From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:31 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different perspective
That's what I did
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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:09 AM
To: cf-community
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The bulk of people earning over $50k a year voted R. The Blue bloods, the
students and the very poor voted D.
Do you really
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; their
> > > > > > companies as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your rhetoric means NOTHING in the face of my reality.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM, E
4:32 PM, Eric Roberts <
> > > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Take that up with your insurance company for downgrading your
> plan
> > or
> > > > > your
> > &g
rts <
> > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Take that up with your insurance company for downgrading your plan
> or
> > > > your
> > > > > employer for getting a lower level insurance plan. How is that the
> > > fault
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> > > > Eric Roberts
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> > > > http:
The bulk of people earning over $50k a year voted R. The Blue bloods,
the students and the very poor voted D.
Do you really need more to realize what that means?
.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> You have any proof of that or are you just blowing it out your nether
>
> > Obamacare?
> > >
> > >
> > > Three Ravens Consulting
> > > Eric Roberts
> > > Owner/Developer
> > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
> > > tel: 630-486-5255
> > > fax: 630-310-8531
> > > http
You have any proof of that or are you just blowing it out your nether
regions as usual?
Sam you are entitled to your own opinions, no matter how dumba$$ed
they may be, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
You said that productive people vote republican, first define
productive, and then s
e Ravens Consulting
> > Eric Roberts
> > Owner/Developer
> > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
> > tel: 630-486-5255
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> From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 1:34 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: These ma
You miss the point, productive folk vote R. People on the dole vote
for more free stuff. Only the D's will keep the free spigot open.
Infrastructure won't help if people are trained to accept handouts
instead of hard work. We're at 47 million people on food stamps.
Welcome to the new America.
.
LRS Scout wrote:
>
> I don't disagree, and I'm coming to think we need to have another
> constitutional convention.
>
> That's a pretty scary concept though.
Yeah ... I'm completely a state's right (even city rights) guy, but
you can't avoid the notion that that worked great when our economy was
I don't disagree, and I'm coming to think we need to have another
constitutional convention.
That's a pretty scary concept though.
On Nov 11, 2012 1:42 PM, "Gruss Gott" wrote:
>
> Sam wrote:
> >
> > It's more like they can't find a job so someone has to pay for them.
> > I'd rather have the ou
Sam wrote:
>
> It's more like they can't find a job so someone has to pay for them.
> I'd rather have the out working. But that's me, evil white guy.
>
I we should want everybody to be productive - that's been America's
secret for 200 years: we innovate and we employ (the assembly line,
the comp
Sounds like you have a really bad plan or you got put on an HSA for
which you should have an account that is a tax-free account that you
pay everything from. We did that and it was awful with kids. Great for
people who don't need a doctor.
Now we pay $525 a month for my wife and kids and it is a
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From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:24 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different perspective
It's more like they can't find a job so someone has to pay for them.
I'd rather have the o
It's more like they can't find a job so someone has to pay for them.
I'd rather have the out working. But that's me, evil white guy.
.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> I think the main point behind that was so that kids are covered while they
> are in college until they c
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From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:11 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different
"Since the insurance companies have to cover children up to 26 . . . "
Children up to 26. That just doesn't sound right. I am picturing the
Menendez brothers.
In a way, I guess it makes sense. Most of the next generation will still
be living at home when they are 26. And you know what? I am
The lie that you can keep the insurance you have. That's already not
true. Many companies are juggling plans to try and keep the rates down
and it's not working.
.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> What lie...please show me where if you already have insurance you have to
>
You might want to link to the WSJ article.
Since the insurance companies have to cover children up to 26 they
raise there rates and eliminate services. We've been seeing that since
it was passed. We were promised the premiums would go down $2500 but
that's how much they've increased.
.
On Fri,
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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 1:34 PM
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On Fri
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From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 1:34 PM
To: cf-community
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Dude! Even Obama stopped repeating that lie
m
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From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 1:31 PM
To: cf-community
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From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 1:00 PM
To: cf-community
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Tea Party will be a distant memory by then.
I know
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From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 12:06 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different perspective
Thanks for the link.
It says "individuals and employees of small businesses" are eligible for
exch
The current system right now, no. Once the ACA health care exchanges
kick in, I hope so. I may end up having to move back to Canada because
of the health care anyhow - if it really becomes unaffordable. Right
now I'm treating my current insurance as a bridge until 2013/2014 when
we can get somethi
You know that answer.
.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:37 PM, GMoney wrote:
>
> Do you think it's all going to be worth it, Larry?
>
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Do you think it's all going to be worth it, Larry?
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> Tell me about it. My deductible is even worse.
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:33 PM, GMoney wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Eric Roberts <
> > ow...@threeravensconsulting.c
And that's what a perk is an incentive.
Is there a different meaning I should know about?
.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> Perk? You really need to learn your history. The american system of
> employee sponsored health care was set up during WW2 as a means of
> keepi
My prescription coverage went for $15 co-pay to paying 100$ until
$2700 deductible is paid. Then I start a co-pay.
Sucks.
.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:33 PM, GMoney wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Eric Roberts <
> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> How are you being punis
Tell me about it. My deductible is even worse.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:33 PM, GMoney wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Eric Roberts <
> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> How are you being punished G? If you already have insurance then you don't
>> have to change anything
Perk? You really need to learn your history. The american system of
employee sponsored health care was set up during WW2 as a means of
keeping employees on the job and not jumping to better paying ones.
http://www.nber.org/aginghealth/2009no2/w14839.html
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Sam wrote
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> How are you being punished G? If you already have insurance then you don't
> have to change anything.
>
Uh, the insurance I had used to cover thingsnow it doesn't.
This year, when I took my sick chil
Dude! Even Obama stopped repeating that lie.
.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> How are you being punished G? If you already have insurance then you don't
> have to change anything.
>
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The Know Nothings or the American Bund didn't go away either.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Tea party isn't going away.
> They might need to replace the R's
>
> .
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:00 PM, GMoney wrote:
>>
>> Tea Party will be a distant memory by then.
>>
>> I know yo
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> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:18 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different perspective
>
>
> Sure, but I can't put any money on it.i'm broke. And I just looked at
> my
> health benefits for next year, if any
g.com
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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:53 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different perspective
are you in line to benefit from anything that goes into affe
, 2012 11:53 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different perspective
are you in line to benefit from anything that goes into affect in 2014?
Because I'm pretty sure I'm not.
I never really had any delusions that Obama Care would benefit me. I was
just hopi
Yeah, it hasn't even kicked in yet and I'm being bent over by the ins co's.
It used to be a perk from the employers. Now everyone's is screwed
into the self employment insurance nightmare/. Spread the misery baby.
.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> Obamacare hasn't been
ovember 09, 2012 11:18 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different perspective
Sure, but I can't put any money on it.i'm broke. And I just looked at my
health benefits for next year, if anyone in my family gets sick, I'll be
paying for a funeral
Tea party isn't going away.
They might need to replace the R's
.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:00 PM, GMoney wrote:
>
> Tea Party will be a distant memory by then.
>
> I know your partisanship prohibits you from seeing ANY scenario where a
> Republican returns to the white house, but it will happen,
>
> -Original Message-
> From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:56 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different perspective
>
>
> I wouldn't worry too much.the odds are good that we wil
://www.threeravensconsulting.com
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From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:56 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different perspective
I wouldn't worry too much.the odds are good that we
Thanks for the link.
It says "individuals and employees of small businesses" are eligible for
exchanges. My company is huge. WHen i answer their questions, they tell me
my best option is to go with my company provided insurance plan.
It appears from this that I'm NOT as eligible for the exchange
You're eligible for the exchanges as much as I am. Seriously look
through healthcare.gov they give a pretty good explanation of what is
and what will be available.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:52 PM, GMoney wrote:
>
> are you in line to benefit from anything that goes into affect in 2014?
> Because
are you in line to benefit from anything that goes into affect in 2014?
Because I'm pretty sure I'm not.
I never really had any delusions that Obama Care would benefit me. I was
just hoping that it wouldn't hurt me too much. So far, judging by this
first set of new benefits for next year, it's hu
That's because most of it doesn't kick in until next year. I pay for
my own health insurance, and the cost is more than ugly (pre-existing
condition). I am hoping I can reduce my costs once the health care
exchanges come into effect. But until then almost 1000 a month goes to
cover our heath care.
Sure, but I can't put any money on it.i'm broke. And I just looked at
my health benefits for next year, if anyone in my family gets sick, I'll be
paying for a funeral too. *sigh*
I sure hope ObamaCare is helping someone, because it's sure not helping me.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Lar
Any bets on that?
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:55 AM, GMoney wrote:
>
> I wouldn't worry too much.the odds are good that we will have a
> Republican president in 2016.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
>>
>> http://imgur.com/CpdW5
>>
>> Maybe this shouldn't have surprised me
I wouldn't worry too much.the odds are good that we will have a
Republican president in 2016.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
> http://imgur.com/CpdW5
>
> Maybe this shouldn't have surprised me, but it did.
> And it's even more reason that I think we've seen the end of Repub
And going hand in hand with that map above are the most educated states, vs
the most uneducated states and how they voted.
http://imgur.com/W2Wzh
This is why those outside the United States compare the GOP to the evil
empire, and in their eyes it represents a backward and primitive viewpoint.
I
http://imgur.com/CpdW5
Maybe this shouldn't have surprised me, but it did.
And it's even more reason that I think we've seen the end of Republicans in
the oval office for quite some time. Which is probably not a good thing
overall.
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