No I left before that. thank goodness - I really do not like Bush Lite.
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
Before I left the United States I was a fully paid member of the
Conservative Party of Canada. My views have not changed much.
Do you support Harper?
Good. I was going to be pretty disappointed (and confused) if you supported
him. He's destroying the country.
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
No I left before that. thank goodness - I really do not like Bush Lite.
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM,
I left Canada to go to grad school. I was accepted into York when the
Tory government at the time essentially zero'd out all social sciences
research funding. The prof who I was to work with called me up and
told me about his NSC grant getting cancelled. I was still accepted
into York but would
let me put it this way when I left the Tory party in Canada was
slightly to the left of the Republicans under Bob Dole. Now, even
though the Conservatives, and Harper, are Bush and Republican
wannabes, the republicans are extremely to the right of the
Conservative Party of Canada. That is in
Now, even though the Conservatives, and Harper, are Bush and Republican
wannabes,
If they are Bush and Republican wannabes, then they aren't necessarily
conservative.
the republicans are extremely to the right of the Conservative Party of
Canada.
Then the conservative Party of Canada must
Larry, you've got to realize to a lot of conservatives, anyone to the left
of them, no matter how far right of center they may be, is a liberal.
And conversely, anyone to the right of a liberal is a conservative. So, in
Larry's case, Mother Jones becomes a conservative.
J
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No man's life,
not really. Before I left the United States I was a fully paid member
of the Conservative Party of Canada. My views have not changed much. I
suspect its more like the so-called conservatives in the US has gone
far to the right of moderate conservatism and well into the realm of
extremism. It
Before I left the United States I was a fully paid member of the
Conservative Party of Canada. My views have not changed much.
Do you support Harper?
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Before I left the United States I was a fully paid member of the
Conservative Party of Canada.
How much did they pay you?
My views have not changed much.
I don't doubt it.
I suspect its more like the so-called conservatives in the US has gone far
to the right of moderate conservatism and
Why did slavery bother the third generation after the start of this
country. I guess following the constitution isn't that important.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Not me, those buildings in DC were built a long time ago. Why does it
bother this generation?
Yeah...keep on believing that Jerry...
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From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:41 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!
But that's sorta how the parties are. Republicans stick
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:41 AM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
Aren't a lot of these folks the same ones saying building a Mosque is
verboten?
It's one mosque in particular they don't wantbuilt and it turns up to
be a good isea not to build. If we don't build it the bad men will
Are you saying you're being enslaved by Christianity because the ten
commandments are on buildings? Does it bother you that much?
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
Why did slavery bother the third generation after the start of this
country. I guess
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Sam wrote:
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:41 AM, denstar wrote:
Aren't a lot of these folks the same ones saying building a Mosque is
verboten?
It's one mosque in particular they don't wantbuilt and it turns up to
be a good isea not to build. If we don't build
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:02 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
Why, they were asked politely to move it. Why the outrage?
I'm not rage'n.
What do you have against Muslims?
Nothing, except the ones that serve food during Ramadan, I still like
them too but wish they would take the
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Sam wrote:
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:02 PM, denstar wrote:
...
What do you have against Muslims?
Nothing, except the ones that serve food during Ramadan, I still like
them too but wish they would take the time off.
Radicals are a different story and these
As for McCain, remember that John McCain's lifetime American Conservative
Union (ACU) rating is 82.3%.
And your point? A chimp and human have a 96% DNA match. It's what's in the
4% that makes a difference, or in this case, the 17.7%.
J
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No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while
the point is that not calling him a conservative is just radicalist
conservative hypocrisy.
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
As for McCain, remember that John McCain's lifetime American Conservative
Union (ACU) rating is 82.3%.
And your point? A
the point is that not calling him a conservative is just radicalist
conservative hypocrisy.
And by calling him a conservative, we would be lying. What a choice.
Same goes for the One. By not calling him a left wing extremist, one is
submitting to radicalist liberal hypocrisy.
J
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No
Larry, you've got to realize to a lot of conservatives, anyone to the left of
them, no matter how far right of center they may be, is a liberal.
On Sep 24, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
the point is that not calling him a conservative is just radicalist
conservative hypocrisy.
New PSA's:
Have you hugged a terrorist today?
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:33 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
I feel we should preach tolerance. Even for radicals, so long as
they ain't hurt'n no one.
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That put him in 39th place amongst Senators at the time.
What was your point again?
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
the point is that not calling him a conservative is just radicalist
conservative hypocrisy.
And in terms of your twisted logic have you hugged a Klansman? Or a nazi?
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
New PSA's:
Have you hugged a terrorist today?
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:33 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
I feel we should preach
No matter what the Republicans promise, they cannot win the White
House without a viable candidate, and right now they have none.
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote:
4. Republicans will win the White House in 2012 promising to repeal
most of Obamacare.
I'm sure you said that about Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43 (twice).
Just a reminder, the Dems didn't have a viable candidate candidate the
last go round and we're all suffering for it.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
No matter what the Republicans promise,
I'm not suffering.
Is anyone on this list actually suffering? And if so, is it Obamas fault you
are suffering?
Sam, how has Barack Obama, in 2 years, caused you suffering?
Just curious.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm sure you said that about Reagan,
My suffering is from listening to you on your knees gagging about how
great he is and how awful everyone who's not on the knee line is.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:51 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not suffering.
Is anyone on this list actually suffering? And if so, is it Obamas
Jealous much?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
My suffering is from listening to you on your knees gagging about how
great he is and how awful everyone who's not on the knee line is.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:51 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm
No. Now get back in line.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
Jealous much?
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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
My suffering is from listening to you on your knees gagging about how
great he is and how awful everyone who's not on the knee line is.
Yep, that's me to a T!
Well done Sam!
--
Glittering prizes and endless compromises
Is anyone on this list actually suffering? And if so, is it Obamas fault you
are suffering?
The industry that I work in is directly impacted by the health care
bill. In addition, my health insurance premiums were increased by
more than the anticipated amount once it was passed. My wife had
we are, but I don't know that it's Congress' fault, we're being denied
coverage for my daughter's nursing care (1 year old with a fresh trach
tube, dr prescribed 24 hour nursing care), and it's something that may
have been covered if it wasn't so close to the laws changing.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:53 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.comwrote:
The industry that I work in is directly impacted by the health care
bill. In addition, my health insurance premiums were increased by
more than the anticipated amount once it was passed. My wife had to
start
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps, but there is also a perception issue at play. For instance, it
could be possible to ask 10 people if they think times are tough, and all 10
can say yes!. Then when you ask, are times tough for YOU, all ten answer
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
You would if there was a republican in office.
You described me to a T! I'm a republican partisan shill! I mean, it's
obvious from my posts over the years!
Well done, Sam!
--
Glittering prizes and endless compromises
Shatter
You are really foul.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
My suffering is from listening to you on your knees gagging about how
great he is and how awful everyone who's not on the knee line is.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:51 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
The industry that I work in is directly impacted by the health care
bill. In addition, my health insurance premiums were increased by
more than the anticipated amount once it was passed. My wife had to
start working again after being a stay-at-home-mom (a job in itself)
for 6 years so we
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Sam wrote:
...
You would if there was a republican in office.
I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly related to the
last Republican in office.
But it's cool-- people's memory is short, and that can be leveraged.
The way of the world, I
You can't blame Bush anymore. His recession ended last year. This is
not a recession, it's the way of life under Obama. And as he said it
will last a long time.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:40 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
...
No, this is reality. Stark, cold reality that some people won't
acknowledge because they bought in to a dream and don't want to wake
up from it.
If you were expecting massive reform to be all sunshine and rainbows
from the
I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly related to the
last Republican in office.
After this long in office, I don't buy that line. The current
President has implemented his economic and social agenda so far as he
has been able to, which is to say most of it. He has dug a
How do we know it's working? When we hit 50% unemployment?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:54 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
...
No, this is reality. Stark, cold reality that some people won't
acknowledge because they
You're smarter than that Sam. The Bush recession is over, yes, but what
we're seeing no is still a consequence of it. At this point the problem
is that we haven't recovered from the damage the economy took under
Bush. There's plenty of blame to go around, but Bush is the bearer of
some of it. As
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Sam wrote:
You can't blame Bush anymore. His recession ended last year. This is
not a recession, it's the way of life under Obama. And as he said it
will last a long time.
It's not Bush I blame so much as the mentality. He was just a
figurehead.
The recession was caused by the mandatory home loans to anybody that asked.
Bush is only to blame for that because he didn't try hard enough to
stop what the democrats put into action. The banks have recovered and
are doing very well while Freddie and Fanny are still underwater. The
TARP money
The bulk of the healthcare bill doesn't go into effect for 3 more years...so
no one expected an immediate effect with that.
Cash for Clunkers did help as GM is getting the bailout paid off.
Fiscally, his policies haven't taken full effect yet.
-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:57 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.comwrote:
And now, we're told by experts, the recession ended in June of 2009!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100920/bs_nm/us_usa_economy_nber -
Recession ended in June 2009: NBER
WE're not being told it's over...it IS
What did the puppet master do to make a ten year depression?
Something so bad that even the Obama can't get us out of it?
Damn those string pullers!
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not Bush I blame so much as the mentality. He was just a
Our current problems are structural. Blame FDR and Johnson for Social
Security and Medicare, and technology for making it possible to locate
knowledge workers anywhere in the world. Blame short-sighted CEOs for
chasing quarterly profits at the cost of our industrial base and
increasingly our
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:57 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
I'd guess 90% of the suffering we see today is directly related to the
last Republican in office.
After this long in office, I don't buy that line. The current
President has implemented his economic and social agenda so far as he
Like I said, plenty of blame to go around. Both Obama and Bush have
their shares. I think it'd be a hard sell to blame FDR and Johnson. If
they had the bulk of the blame we would have seen a huge recession a lot
sooner I think.
-Original Message-
From: Robert Munn
WE're not being told it's over...it IS over. You expect everything to be
happy-happy-joy-joy the day the recession ends?
No, but 20 months later I would have expected to see more private
industry growth and lower unemployment.
Maybe that's just me not being patient enough.
But trickle down works, and we should trust CEOs to have *our* best
interests at heart. Sure...
Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say that, nor did anything that
I said imply that. I'm not making a case of equivalence nor do I ask
you to. CEO's should have their stock-holders best
So what percentage do you think it would have been without the stimulus? Does
anyone have any proof one way or the other what it would have been?
On Sep 23, 2010, at 11:57 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
The stimulus was supposed to keep unemployment under 8% - it didn't.
Cash for clunkers
No matter what the Republicans promise, they cannot win the White House
without a viable candidate, and right now they have none.
The GOP has a fantastic history of nominating people who seem destined to
lose.
Bob Dole. Give me a break. The sad thing is, he probably would have won if
Perot
epilogue: After winning the White House, Republicans will go off on some
foolish social values wedge issue and turn independent voters against them,
insuring Democrats a mid-term win in 2014.
Just like clockwork.
J
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No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:03 PM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
WE're not being told it's over...it IS over. You expect everything to be
happy-happy-joy-joy the day the recession ends?
Uh yeah, that's the way it usually works. I'm baffled as to why you
would think suddenly a shitty
That's cute.
Is that your argument? You can't prove it's 0's fault so he's not to
blame. I bet you still blame Bush without that kind of proof.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
So what percentage do you think it would have been without the
As for McCain, remember that John McCain's lifetime American
Conservative Union (ACU) rating is 82.3%.
So what are you saying that the ACU isn't conservative?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
No matter what the Republicans promise, they cannot win the
Too true. That's why the Tea Party is trying to flush the RINO's out.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
epilogue: After winning the White House, Republicans will go off on some
foolish social values wedge issue and turn independent voters against
We'll be feeling the effects of the last administration for at least 10
years, remember?
That's the problem. Seem like almost everybody but a select few want to
pick one party to blame. There is plenty of blame to spread around and it
goes back further than one administration.
For example,
Are you TRYING to give us all nightmares?
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From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:58 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for you!
-snip-
Watch out for a bipartisan Palin/Clinton tiicket.
The dropping of coverage on children is actually a 3 month old story...not a
week old one.
Eric
-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:40 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Welcome to Obamacare, no insurance for
Well then that makes it OK.
Move along, nothing to see here.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
The dropping of coverage on children is actually a 3 month old story...not a
week old one.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Sam wrote:
What did the puppet master do to make a ten year depression?
Something so bad that even the Obama can't get us out of it?
I'm not talking solely about the economy. I'm talking about America, yo!
Lord, man, look at all the hubbub about we need
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
We'll be feeling the effects of the last administration for at least 10
years, remember?
That's the problem. Seem like almost everybody but a select few want to
pick one party to blame. There is plenty of blame to spread around and it
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:54 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
What did the puppet master do to make a ten year depression?
Something so bad that even the Obama can't get us out of it?
I'm not talking solely about the economy. I'm talking about America, yo!
So it's an emotional
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Sam wrote:
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:54 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
What did the puppet master do to make a ten year depression?
Something so bad that even the Obama can't get us out of it?
I'm not talking solely about the economy. I'm
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
Totally.
And if you don't think so, you'll probably DIE! We're all DOOMED, man,
DOOMED!
You'd better get right with God, esse! ;)p
:Den
Bob Dylan, Everything is Broken - Commentary Breakdown
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com bloviated:
Lord, man, look at all the hubbub about we need God back in government!,
etc..
You misrepresent this all the time, they want people to stop attacking
religion and allow people to say Merry Christmas. They're not trying
to
So you have no objections to shoving the Christian religion down the
throats of those who are not Christian?
So you have no objections to atheism (or the organized religion that
atheism has become... active advertising to fix Christians is
prosthelytizing in my eyes which makes it a religion)
Organized? You have got to be kidding.
I was also referring to people who are followers of Hinduism,
Buddhism, basically any of the non-Christian religions.
as for the stuff about advertising, so its OK for the Methodists or
Catholics or Mormons to advertise, but not those who do not believe in
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote:
Like I said, plenty of blame to go around. Both Obama and Bush have
their shares. I think it'd be a hard sell to blame FDR and Johnson. If
they had the bulk of the blame we would have seen a huge recession a lot
sooner I
Organized? You have got to be kidding.
Nope -
http://www.atheists.org/ - American Atheists
http://www.atheistalliance.org/ - Atheist Alliance International
http://www.causes.com/causes/421 - American Atheist Organization
http://www.americanhumanist.org/ - American Humanist Alliance
I was also
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
So it's an emotional thingy that you can't really explain but you know
it ruined this country.
Not ruined, but pushed us pretty far down a dark path.
You and your dark path. Stay away from the black hash dude :)
Fear
Not me, those buildings in DC were built a long time ago. Why does it
bother this generation?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com bloviated:
So you have no objections to shoving the Christian
Blame FDR and Johnson for Social Security and Medicare, and technology for
making it possible to locate knowledge workers anywhere in the world.
Don't forget Woodrow Wilson. Both FDR and Johnson cut their teeth under the
progressive hero Wilson.
J
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No man's life, liberty, or property is
Don't forget Woodrow Wilson. Both FDR and Johnson cut their teeth under
the progressive hero Wilson.
Oops. I meant FDR cut his teeth under Wilson and Johnson cut his teeth
under FDR.
J
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No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in
session. - Mark Twain
The
But that's sorta how the parties are. Republicans stick
together, Democrats can barely keep it together long enough to bust a nut.
I call bull shit. It's actually the complete opposite.
When pollsters ask the American people whether they are likely to vote
Republican or Democrat in the next
Select few? Bull. Shit. Just look at this list (tiny and non-average tho
it be). There is *one* party that thinks it's shit don't stink, and it
starts with an R. The other guys aren't all blind faith, tho that
doesn't stop the accusations.
When I said select few, I meant voters. It seems
I guess a lot of things would be a religion in your eyes then. Is the
geek-squad a religion. They advertise that they can fix anything.
What's funny is that I don't consider a christian billboard to be
prosthelytizing at all, I consider it advertising.
On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:12 PM, C.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Sam wrote:
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:
So it's an emotional thingy that you can't really explain but you know
it ruined this country.
Not ruined, but pushed us pretty far down a dark path.
You and your dark path.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
But that's sorta how the parties are. Republicans stick
together, Democrats can barely keep it together long enough to bust a nut.
I call bull shit. It's actually the complete opposite.
When pollsters ask the American people whether
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
Select few? Bull. Shit. Just look at this list (tiny and non-average tho
it be). There is *one* party that thinks it's shit don't stink, and it
starts with an R. The other guys aren't all blind faith, tho that
doesn't stop the
lol. Apropos!
I think.
Mostly I just wanted to use that word. :)
:Den
--
Admiration for a quality or an art can be so strong that it deters us
from striving to possess it.
Friedrich Nietzsche
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Casey Dougall wrote:
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, denstar
Aetna, Anthem, others to stop offering child-only insurance policies
in some states, including California. Good job, Democrats! You have
succeeded in reducing health care options for struggling families.
Just wait until the premiums start skyrocketing.
Here is how Obamacare will implode:
1.
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