Learn ASP as much as you can. This way, it is easier to re-write
everything in CF.
At 02:43 PM 8/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Hello all,
I am a CF certified developer (missed advanced by three points) but am
thinking of expanding my horizons/marketability. I have started getting
up to speed
Yeah but unless you're hosting it for them, they will have
to pay an additional amount of money to buy CF Server to
run that easier code. While certain things like that are
much easier to code in CF, if you're trying to get a
customer and it's a big site, $500 could be the difference
-
Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
Founder Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
- Original Message -
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Oh
No reason to buy an older ASP book if that's what you mean. The
languages are basically the same, except for VBScript finally being
typed, and getting decent error handling.
ASP has always been more about integrating COM objects than anything.
A tag in cf = com object in asp...
The CLR is
:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Oh please! You're comparing apples to oranges. Just because all of the
cfmail code is hidden from you; it doesn't mean it isn't there.
Matt Liotta
President CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL
of goods, not to mention the time you'll save
them too.
--- Ben
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Yeah but unless you're hosting it for them, they will have
to pay an additional
Oh please! You're comparing apples to oranges. Just because
all of the cfmail code is hidden from you; it doesn't mean
it isn't there.
While I don't buy Tony's comparison in full (there are certainly cleaner
ways to write the ASP code), I think you're missing the point. Sure, all the
same
in a lot of situations.
Benjamin S. Rogers
http://www.c4.net/
v.508.240.0051
f.508.240.0057
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
CASE IN POINT
TOO MANY LINES/CHARACTERS OF BS VBSHIT
-
Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
Founder Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
- Original Message -
From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
No reason to buy
://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 2:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Matt I think Tony is bang on. Yes the additinal code may be hidden
from
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Matt I think Tony is bang on. Yes the additinal code may be hidden from
us,
but because of that fact we can develop faster and reduce development
costs
for clients.
That said I still think it's
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 2:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
And wait until you get a project that utilises a lot of COM objects...
ASP and ASP.NET handles COM a lot easier that CF 5 and especially MX.
You need to use the tool that fits the job
:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
And the first time they want to do full text searching, or basic
graphing, or simple things like handling file uploads or using POP (or
LDAP or server side HTTP) you'll need to be add-on modules and
components that will cost you more than the $500
Message -
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
I'll sell you an object you can call from ASP in one line just like
cfmail for $200. Attempting to show that CF is a more rabid development
platform than ASP
: CF vs. ASP
Oh please! You're comparing apples to oranges. Just because
all of the cfmail code is hidden from you; it doesn't mean
it isn't there.
While I don't buy Tony's comparison in full (there are certainly
cleaner
ways to write the ASP code), I think you're missing the point. Sure
anyhow, the truth of the matter is thisif i can
develop rich cf applications for companies
in half the time, that it might take an asp coder
to do it, with half the code, i will, and until something
better comes along, thats what im doing...
I am not disagreeing that CF is faster to
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF vs. ASP
Hello all,
I am a CF certified developer (missed advanced by three points) but am
thinking of expanding my horizons/marketability. I have started getting
up to speed in ASP/VBScript but the question keeps coming up: should I
even spend any time doing this or should
]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 7:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
anyhow, the truth of the matter is thisif i can
develop rich cf applications for companies
in half the time, that it might take an asp coder
to do it, with half the code, i will, and until something
better comes along
Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
speak for yourself matt, since you dont
have confidence in your work being the biggest
baddest web apps in the world, it doesnt
surprise me that you dont find cf
M. Fitch
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
http://isitedesign.com
**
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
speak
cake! with, can you guess ladies and gentsCF
peace.
tw
-Original Message-
From: Fitch, Tyler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Tony,
A little fired up? Biggest baddest apps in the world. Cnn.com,
yahoo.com
-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:47 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
speak for yourself matt, since you dont
have confidence in your work being the biggest
baddest web apps in the world, it doesnt
surprise me that you dont find cf as the same.
its a shame, a darn shame, you
Matt Liotta wrote:
I am not disagreeing that CF is faster to develop in. I am simply
pointing out that it is not because one particular feature takes less
lines to code in CF than another language. I suspect that just as much
time is spent in another language learning an email library's API
What's more important here is where will you, the CF developer, be if
macromedia goes out of business. I remember speaking to a business basic
guru that took business basic to the limits; even writing bad ass web
apps.
__
Your
but, to put it blatantly honest, its all about perspective...
in my mind, if im not building the biggest baddest web apps
in the world, then im building nothing...and who is the judge
of that? me. and really, only me. thanks.
So if I hire you to create hello world in CF, will it be the
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
but, to put it blatantly honest, its all about perspective...
in my mind, if im not building the biggest baddest web apps
in the world, then im building
Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Matt Liotta wrote:
I am not disagreeing that CF is faster to develop in. I am simply
pointing out that it is not because one particular feature takes less
lines to code
]
[connecting people, places and things]
-Original Message-
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
You know to this day it still amazes me things people say! Kinda like the
old Mac is better than Microsoft, or even
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps this is a really loaded question... but what is it that you want it
to do?
I want to spool email with attachments and be able to delete the
attachments right away.
Since the mail in the spoolfolder simply stores a reference to the file
and only attaches the
: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps this is a really loaded question... but what is it that you want
it
to do?
I want to spool email with attachments and be able
-
From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Matt Liotta wrote:
I am not disagreeing that CF is faster to develop in. I am simply
pointing out that it is not because one particular feature
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How often are you sending your mail? In most cases with email, you want to
send it right away... in which case, the attachment would be deleted after
the mail was sent.
Right, after it is sent. Not after it is spooled.
What type of setup/application are you
about that for a bit
Pablo Varando
http://www.cfpablo.com
http://www.easycfm.com
- Original Message -
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Well that is just what I was getting at. It is nice
://www.cfpablo.com
http://www.easycfm.com
- Original Message -
From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How often are you sending your mail? In most cases with email, you
to the garage, and get the hammer. :-)
-Novak
- Original Message -
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Well that is just what I was getting at. It is nice that CF has all this
wrapped up
26, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
The emai spooling in most cases happens so fast, it's not really even
understandable why you'd want to delete the attachemtn first anyways.
In most cases you don't even realize the spooled email is there. How big
are
the files you are spooling? Maybe
Not necessarily. Truth is that by having it all built in on one place,
you
are simplying your life, not to mention that when you do run into
trouble
it's easier to get help and solutions.
Again, it is only easier when the built-in solution works. I am not sure
why you are having such a hard
Sure... but the same could be said about ANY programming language.
But this isn't ANY-Talk. This is CF-Talk and we are discussing CF vs.
ASP, which makes it relevant.
I certainly don't believe ColdFusion is the ultimate solution for
EVERY
job,
just like I don't use a pipe wrench when I
Pablo Varando wrote:
The emai spooling in most cases happens so fast, it's not really even
understandable why you'd want to delete the attachemtn first anyways.
I don't. I've just been asked to build it.
In most cases you don't even realize the spooled email is there.
I see a problem in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Pablo Varando wrote:
The emai spooling in most cases happens so fast, it's not really even
understandable why you'd want to delete the attachemtn first anyways.
I don't. I've just been asked to build
wouldn't be on this list
Pablo Varando
http://www.cfpablo.com
http://www.easycfm.com
- Original Message -
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:20 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
Not necessarily. Truth is that by having it all
gratzie pablo, eloquently stated !!!
tw
-Original Message-
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
I will agree that at times there are good tools you can implement to get
the
job done faster.
A few
:]
Pablo Varando
http://www.cfpablo.com
http://www.easycfm.com
- Original Message -
From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:52 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
gratzie pablo, eloquently stated !!!
tw
-Original Message
The reason I said:
I'm sitting here asking myself, why you hate ColdFusion so much
is because every time some one replies to your answers/posts, you seem
to
find something wrong from that.
I am just having a technical debate. My personal feelings don't enter
into it. If I let my personal
]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
The reason I said:
I'm sitting here asking myself, why you hate ColdFusion so much
is because every time some one replies to your answers/posts, you seem
to
find something wrong from that.
I am just having a technical debate
in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-Original Message-
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Not necessarily. Truth is that by having it all built in on one place, you
are simplying your life
Pablo Varando wrote:
Well what code are you using to loop through and send the emails?
cfset thefile = d:\cdr\p.jpg
cfmail from=#email# to=#email# subject=test
cfmailparam file=#thefile#
test
/cfmail
cffile action=delete file=#thefile#
Error in the mail.log:
over ASP.
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2002 1:57 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
The reason I said:
I'm sitting here asking myself, why you hate ColdFusion so much
is because every time some one replies
i guess the cfx_sleep tag to pause that for a second or two
wouldnt suffice here?
tw
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 10:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Pablo Varando wrote:
Well what code are you using
Ok, and how are you calling this page? From a URL or via Customtag(Include)?
Pablo Varando
http://www.cfpablo.com
http://www.easycfm.com
- Original Message -
From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs
://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 7:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
Pablo Varando wrote:
Well what code are you using to loop through
Interesting question... I was just making the same argument (on another
list) for CF vs WiTango (replacement for Pervasive's Tango).
Tango was/is (approximately) DWMX, CFMX/JRun and a pretty good RDBMS
all rolled into one --- with the ability to develop web and desktop
applications on/for
On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 05:56 PM, Matt Liotta wrote:
Well that is just what I was getting at. It is nice that CF has all
this
wrapped up functionality, but it comes at a price. That price is
control. Sure there is usually a way to get it to do what you want, but
that generally takes
Claro!
On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 06:07 PM, Pablo Varando wrote:
The truth is that THAT is the beauty of Coldfusion, an all in one
solution
that is really affordable and easy to use.
__
Signup for the Fusion Authority
Matt
I think the problem is that the alternative being discussed is from
MSoft and the natural reaction is to barf if something is being shoved
down your throat -- common sense and merits adide!
Dick
On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 06:20 PM, Matt Liotta wrote:
People on this list are
At 09:14 AM 8/27/2002, you wrote:
cfset thefile = d:\cdr\p.jpg
cfmail from=#email# to=#email# subject=test
cfmailparam file=#thefile#
test
/cfmail
cffile action=delete file=#thefile#
Error in the mail.log:
Error,scheduler-4,08/27/02,04:03:47,,Sending failed; nested
exception is:
Anyone know of a reference that has all of the CF tags/functions with a PHP,
and/or ASP equivalent?
I've been using CF for about 3 years now and would like to pick up a second
skill. I think something like this might be a good starter. I'm tired of
getting a project and finding out the client
The best thing to do is go to the websites that have
tutorials and code snippets.
For php - www.phpbuilder.com
For asp - www.asp101.com
There are many, many more sites but these will get you
started.
HTH
--
Clint Tredway
--
Through Him, anything is possible.
I have to agree that CF is easier and faster to use than ASP. However, ASP
does have the advantage of PWS. Does CF have an equivalent? I started out
with ASP, then used CF for two years, and now I'm using ASP again. I'm not
ecstatic about it, but I have found a couple of advantages:
1
explain
better.
Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web Developer Extraordinaire
-Original Message-
From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
I have to agree that CF is easier
I agree Robert.
Basicaly CF is quicker to develop in and has easier syntax and hence is
often the prefference. I find the main reason for this is it is much easier
to debug using CF than ASP which is a pain in the backside. I develop in
both and the only areas that ASP wins is when you
than ASP. However, ASP
does have the advantage of PWS. Does CF have an equivalent? I started out
with ASP, then used CF for two years, and now I'm using ASP again. I'm not
ecstatic about it, but I have found a couple of advantages:
1. Thanks to PWS, if I want to work from home, I can just
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
1. PWS? What I don't get it. PWS is a web server. Sure ASP is built in,
but you can get a FREE Developer version of CF Enterprise and it can work in
conjunction with PWS. Where's the problem here?
2. Again if you install the free version of CF
Where is this Free version of coldfusion. are you referring to CF Express?
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
http://www.sheriff.org
-Original Message-
From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let
No - you can get a one single licence of CF server - in fact doesn't it come
on the CD in the back of the Forta book?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 16:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Where
This is great! So do you have to use that in conjunction with CF Enterprise
as Robert mentioned?
-Original Message-
From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
CF equivalent to PWS is PWS
Or ya can download it :)
-Original Message-
From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
No - you can get a one single licence of CF server - in fact doesn't it
come
on the CD
that ever visits it, lol
Rob
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Where is this Free version of coldfusion. are you referring to CF
Express?
Anthony Petruzzi
licenses for cf for 1400 laptops (that would be insane). this could be a
problem solver.
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
http://www.sheriff.org
-Original Message-
From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP
He is taliking about the Developers version...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Where is this Free version of coldfusion. are you referring to CF
April 2002 16:46
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
You can use CF Express, but it is a little limiting, but CF5 is free as
a 1 connection developmental server that you can install at home and
use, but only allowed 1 connection, which would be yourself. Well, I
guess I
I don't know what it is you don't get, but as a part-time
telecommuter, I prefer not to have to rely on a remote server
while developing.
So do I. Fortunately, I can do that with CF just as easily as with ASP. Both
work through IIS, and CF can use other web servers as well, such as
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Pardon me! I hadn't heard of CF Enterprise. Hence the question Does CF
have an equivalent?. If I ever get to code in CF again I'll have to look
into that.
I don't know
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 16:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
I think people are confusing the CF Enterprise with the 1 user license. CF
Enterprise is a version of CF server just with less tags supported. so if
you are not using the full
I would imagine you could do this if your employees licensed their own
copies, but then who knows.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
I know about
-
From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
I think people are confusing the CF Enterprise with the 1 user license. CF
Enterprise is a version of CF server just with less tags supported. so
Yup I am.I meant to say CF Express!.good spot J - deliberate mistake
you understand!
-Original Message-
From: James Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 16:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
I think you're confusing your Enterprise
supported. so if
you are not using the full tag list then this may be your bag
-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 16:46
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
You can use CF Express, but it is a little limiting
, 2002 9:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
1. PWS? What I don't get it. PWS is a web server. Sure ASP is built in,
but you can get a FREE Developer version of CF Enterprise and it can work in
conjunction with PWS. Where's the problem here?
2. Again
: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Well there has always been a CF Enterprise, but MM listens to us on the
group and when we whined and said there wasn't anything free for us to
develop in they offered us a development version of CF Enterprise. It allows
you to use CF Enterprise in it's full
Well just a snippet from MM-site:
The ColdFusion Trial Edition automatically converts to a
non-expiring, full-featured single user Developer Edition after the 30-day trial
period. The Developer Edition is currently available only for Windows and only in
English.
Not that crippled
On Thursday, April 4, 2002, at 07:54 AM, Dave Watts wrote:
There are lots of free CGI engines, in addition to ASP, which isn't
really
free anyway - you have to buy Windows!
Neither are the 3rd-party ASP add-ons free... those that give ASP
capabilities that are built-in to CF!
Dick
: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
And you would think that Allaire/Macromedia would have something of the sort posted on
their website, but I could not find anything there
Rob
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto
ColdFusion is available in 2 flavours :
ColdFusion Server Professional
ColdFusion Server Enterprise
ColdFusion Enterprise is the largest/boldest of the family and has the
most features. There IS a 30 day trial download of this product from
the site which after 30 days expire it will turn
OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros
and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do
not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty
much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security
and
gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
http://www.sheriff.org
-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF VS ASP
OK, I have been looking for some things
http://www.houseoffusion.com/hof/body/asp.cfm
http://www.swynk.com/friends/murphy/ironic_isnt_it.asp
-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF VS ASP
OK, I have been looking for some things
I don't have an exact answer, but there are some good things if you do the
following:
Go to Google.com search for asp vs. cold fusion and then reverse it cold
fusion vs. asp and you will find various articles and message threads.
Hope this helps
Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
actually let me take the first crack at this. if noone minds
Can you say ADO
Anthony Petruzzi
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP
Well we will all tell you here that CF blows ASP out of the water ;-)
That said I beleive there is a comparison on Ben Forta's site at www.forta.com or
mabye it was House
of Fusion at www.houseoffusion.com
Anyway, I know one of the gurus out there has the comparisonand by the time I send
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who wants
to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at
all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not
like it.
Rob
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Subject: Re: CF VS ASP
I don't have an exact answer, but there are some good things if you do the
following:
Go to Google.com search for asp vs. cold fusion and then reverse it cold
fusion vs. asp and you will find various articles and message threads.
Hope this helps
Paul Giesenhagen
Thanks Sam,
I have already taken a look at the swynk.com URL but it is a little
outdated as it refers to ASP 2.0
Rob
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From: Sam Roach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP
http://www.houseoffusion.com
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who wants
to move from CF to ASP and get rid
Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who wants
to move from
Married
with Children type of Dodge to a Corvette
Rob
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot
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From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who wants
to move from
Yeah, I have had the chance to play with Neo, very impressed, and I
thought that CF5 was a big step from 4, amazing
Rob
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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling
Well there is this article by eweek that is probably the most recent
comparison you are going to get. CF 4.5.1, ASP 5.0 PHP 4, Tomcat 3.2,
And they give CF the nod. While still saying different tools for different
jobs, might make sense. So we can only conjecture that they would have
given CF
Forgot the link:
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2646052,00.html
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
The only problem you
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