CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Jordan Michaels
are teaching Java. Sounds to me like an uphill battle, but it is in Adobe's interest and long overdue. I would like to hear more about how Adobe plans to market to education institutions. Is the ColdFusion Server actually going to be free to education systems? I had not heard that. -- http

RE: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Ben Forta
...@viviotech.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:09 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!) I was at a CFUnited a couple years ago and Adobe was talking about a new plan they had started that offered Adobe products for free to educational institutions. I haven't

Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Jordan Michaels
/coldfusion/ And ColdFusion Builder is now also free for educational use: https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/ --- Ben -Original Message- From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:jor...@viviotech.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:09 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CF Education

RE: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread brad
To be clear, educational use in my understanding means you can teach a CFML class using the server and IDE in the classroom and for the students. It does not mean that any higher education institution can use Adobe ColdFusion to power their public school site for free. As a note, it took some

Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Raymond Camden
But there are good academic prices though: http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/education_pricing.html On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:44 PM, b...@bradwood.com wrote: To be clear, educational use in my understanding means you can teach a CFML class using the server and IDE in the classroom

Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Judah McAuley
: But there are good academic prices though: http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/education_pricing.html On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:44 PM,  b...@bradwood.com wrote: To be clear, educational use in my understanding means you can teach a CFML class using the server and IDE in the classroom

Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Raymond Camden
academic pricing available? I'm guessing it just hasn't made it up there yet as the Flex Builder version they list is still version 3. Judah On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: But there are good academic prices though: http://www.adobe.com/education

Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Raymond Camden
The price is 199. See the comment from Terry on this blog post: http://www.terrenceryan.com/blog/post.cfm/coldfusion-builder-and-flash-builder-free-for-education On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen a price for the academic version, but I don't

Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Judah McAuley
Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: The price is 199. See the comment from Terry on this blog post: http://www.terrenceryan.com/blog/post.cfm/coldfusion-builder-and-flash-builder-free-for-education On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen a price

Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Casey Dougall
/coldfusion-builder-and-flash-builder-free-for-education Well at least they leave you with a way to cheat their system... I could just have my Father purchase it for me he is staff @ k-12 public school. That fits in the description, and it's not like he's going to be missing out on using it lol

Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread denstar
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: ... On a side-note, you could do the same deal with Dream Weaver for $199. At least I would have Ctr-Shift-U for uploading files, I still can't find out how to make a keyboard shortcut for it in Builder. Check the Aptana prefs, as I just

Re: -Re: Education

2009-10-27 Thread Dave Watts
Well the quote was just a highlight. But if you want the real in-depth thought process behind this... The most respected minds in the health / psychology community regarding Autism (Simon Baron-Cohen in particular) are citing similarities between Einstein and people with Asperger Syndrome

RE: Education

2009-10-27 Thread Scott Stewart
-Original Message- From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:i...@turnkey.to] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:30 AM To: cf-talk Subject: -Re: Education Totally off topic but... Is Simon Baron-Cohen related to Sasha Baron-Cohen (AKA Borat)? It would be a very interesting dichotomy if they were

RE: Education

2009-10-27 Thread ealger
...@figleaf.com] Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 5:09 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Education Just looking at ColdFusion alone, we've had a new major version every year for the past 4 years. Which means that if you had a 4 year college course that included CF prepared in 2006, it would be outdated by 3

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread Bryan Stevenson
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 15:17 -0500, s. isaac dealey wrote: In my case in particular, my skills are fairly slanted toward the technical, meaning that my people skills are rusty. LOLI think that's just a programmer trait ;-) My staff once compared me to the new toilet paper my partner

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread s. isaac dealey
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 15:17 -0500, s. isaac dealey wrote: In my case in particular, my skills are fairly slanted toward the technical, meaning that my people skills are rusty. LOLI think that's just a programmer trait ;-) My staff once compared me to the new toilet paper my

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread Allen Souliere
Billy Cox wrote: I'm a musician as well. scary!! Rick Faircloth wrote: I think you're right, Mark. Music, especially theory, is very logical and an lot like programming...just a different medium. *raises up guitar, and keyboard and rests them on the desk by his keyboard*

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread Allen Souliere
Bryan Stevenson wrote: Speaking as a non-musician. Poppycock, you picked up my guitar when I brought it in the office and played it. Actually I think I really am onejust never had the time to keep playing ;-) I believe that that while you can phrase computer science as a

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread Dave Watts
Just looking at ColdFusion alone, we've had a new major version every year for the past 4 years. Which means that if you had a 4 year college course that included CF prepared in 2006, it would be outdated by 3 major versions by this year when the students graduated. I expect a similar kind

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread Dave Watts
I'd say you're pretty accurate in your guess.  I don't have it and don't want it either.  For me it's as much a matter of principle as anything.  I got where I am today by figuring it out on my own (as I think most CFers have) and to me that's worth WAY more than somebody who sat in a

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread Dave Watts
One of the things that tends to frustrate me about job placement ads is that they always seem to want you to be some combination of Einstein's level of technical expertise and Obama's speaking finesse. ;) Forget that Obama isn't an especially technical individual and that Einstein wasn't the

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread Dave Watts
I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not accept experience in it's place. Experience is very difficult to quantify. Many hiring programs require some sort of easily quantifiable information as the first filter. In most places, you need the degree to get in the door, then you need

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread Dave Watts
In any case, there's nothing that was in my degree back in the early 1970s that's relevant to today's world.      But i have been building web sites the internet first went commercial.  I built my first web site using Frontpage 1 - that taught me as much about building web sites as almost

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread Dave Watts
I believe that that while you can phrase computer science as a science, there is much more art than science to it.  There is artistry in seeing all of the parts and guiding them into the whole.  It really makes sense that musicians and programmer/analysts tend to go hand in hand. Well, no.

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Mark Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote: Rick, That is so funny I have a BA in Theology, a BA in Music and I'm just shy of a master in Sociology - and here I am working in computer development :) It's not surprising how many folks have Music as a

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread s. isaac dealey
One of the things that tends to frustrate me about job placement ads is that they always seem to want you to be some combination of Einstein's level of technical expertise and Obama's speaking finesse. ;) Forget that Obama isn't an especially technical individual and that Einstein

Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread Dave Watts
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2988647.stm Highlight: He was also a notoriously confusing lecturer. Does not say to me pretty good at communicating with people, but of course, you can interpret it how you like. I think that you're reading way too much into a single pullquote. Perhaps

-Re: Education

2009-10-26 Thread s. isaac dealey
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2988647.stm Highlight: He was also a notoriously confusing lecturer. Does not say to me pretty good at communicating with people, but of course, you can interpret it how you like. I think that you're reading way too much into a single pullquote.

Re: Education

2009-10-25 Thread K Simanonok
It's not surprising how many folks have Music as a part of their skill set who are also programmers. There's a natural synergy there I think. Music and mathematics are processed by adjacent regions of right parietal cerebral cortex, and programming of course uses the basic skill set of

RE: Education

2009-10-25 Thread ealger
: Education Just curious.. I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not accept experience in it's place. What in your estimation is the percent of coldfusion people who have these and do you have one yourself? For me, I don't have any college experience and I would guess that about 5

Re: Education

2009-10-25 Thread James Holmes
Well, Asperger's doesn't predispose one to people skills. I also see solutions in my head and generally take care of it before I get to writing anything down; it's part of the alternative way of thinking that allows Aspies to see patterns easily etc. Sure, my people skills suck too, but that's

RE: Education

2009-10-24 Thread Rick Faircloth
, let that problem settle in my brain and begin to solve itself, then come back later and say, Oh, I hadn't thought of that before!... Rick -Original Message- From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:i...@turnkey.to] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:14 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Education Rick

RE: Education

2009-10-24 Thread Rick Faircloth
It's ok to go away in your mind sometimes, Bryan, as long as you come back... :o) -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Education Speaking as a non-musician. Actually I

RE: Education

2009-10-24 Thread Rick Faircloth
Now that's about the most unusual instrument I've seen! I just don't see how he does the fastest runs in the piece! Hilarious! -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:09 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Education Well Ike

Re: Education

2009-10-24 Thread s. isaac dealey
Jazz anyone? ;) So, what's free-form jazz? Is that kind of like when you just make up code and hope it compiles? What people call cowboy coding? ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_coding Oh funny, check the advantages section: Developers maintain a freeform working environment

Re: Education

2009-10-24 Thread s. isaac dealey
Bryan Stevenson: It's just like in A Beautiful Mind where Nash saw the patterns in encrypted documents etc. (not that I am in any way in the same league...but you get my drift). I just see it all in my head and mess with it there before writing the code. Kinda drives people nuts when I go

Re: Education

2009-10-24 Thread Cameron Childress
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not accept experience in it's place. I think you will find that alot of these jobs requiring a BA/BS are in a more corporate environment where HR reps who know very

RE: Education

2009-10-24 Thread Bryan Stevenson
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:52 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote: It's ok to go away in your mind sometimes, Bryan, as long as you come back... :o) hehe...well usually it's a quick tripnice break in the day really ;-) - Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge

Re: Education

2009-10-24 Thread Bryan Stevenson
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:29 -0500, s. isaac dealey wrote: I was trying to find some way of responding to this that wouldn't seem conceited... and couldn't really come up with anything, so I'll just go ahead and say it. I thought everyone did this? It's OK to have skill that makes you good

Re: Education

2009-10-24 Thread Jason Fisher
I just love that the video labels him a manualist ... awesome. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive:

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2009-10-24 Thread s. isaac dealey
I get you though...it strikes me as odd when others can't see the patterns I do. For me I think it's due to my memory...it even scares me sometimesremembering line numbers or code above/below the code you are remembering 5 years after writing it is just creepy. Now that's some memory!

RE: Education

2009-10-24 Thread Dave Phillips
I can remember coding I did from more than 10 years ago, but I can't remember to pick up milk when I go to the grocery store for diapers (or vice versa!). I suppose that' what 40 will do to you! BTW - to chime in on the whole education thread - I have a BA degree in Religion which, as you can

Education

2009-10-23 Thread Phillip Vector
Just curious.. I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not accept experience in it's place. What in your estimation is the percent of coldfusion people who have these and do you have one yourself? For me, I don't have any college experience and I would guess that about 5% of the

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Shannon Peevey
Since I have only used Coldfusion in academic institutions, it is pretty much 100% in my experience. But, this is probably not indicative of a true cross-section :) On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Just curious.. I've seen allot of jobs

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Ian Skinner
This may be more of a cf-community rather then cf-talk discussion. But I do have two college degrees. Of course they are a Bachelor of Liberal Arts - University Studies and an Associate of Occupational Studies - Culinary Arts. But they are college degrees! :-). I suspect this is what you

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread RobG
I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not accept experience in it's place. What in your estimation is the percent of coldfusion people who have these and do you have one yourself? For me, I don't have any college experience and I would guess that about 5% of the coldfusion

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Dominic Watson
1st Class Honours in Musical Theatre here... Of around 8-9 devs in our team over the last 18 months we had one developer with a comp science degree. He was worse than an appalling programmer, though I suspect that is not typical. Dominic 2009/10/23 Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.com

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Rob Parkhill
I have my BA in Geography, with a Minor in Computing - course that focused on Physics and Math, not coding :) And I have a Post-Secondary diploma as a GIS- Cartographic Specialist - where I got more programming experience than my Minor Rob On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Dominic Watson

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread patrick buch
Just curious.. I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not accept experience in it's place. What in your estimation is the percent of coldfusion people who have these and do you have one yourself? For me, I don't have any college experience and I would guess that about 5% of the

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Mike Kear
I have a university degree too, but when I got my degree, they didnt have personal computers. The only computers around were what soon became known as mainframe computers.I graduated in 1974. I have a business degree, and the principles of marketing haven't changed in all that time- the

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread patrick buch
I'm self taught too... I actually have an Art degree qood question and post. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive:

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2009-10-23 Thread Claude Schneegans
BSC here, in math/physics, and MSC in computer technologies. Actually, CF may be the 20th language I learned and used. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Gerald Guido
For me, I don't have any college experience and I would guess that about 5% of the coldfusion community actually have a BA/BS. Most of the IT people that I know and/or have worked with have degrees. But then again I live in a town with two large universities and a couple of junior colleges.

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Jason Fisher
I've got a BA and an MA, but neither one is in CS or MIS ... Classics (Ancient Greek and Latin). The 'requirement' of CS / MIS schooling tends to come from HR, rather than IT hiring managers. Not always true, but often. Completely agree that the degree is immaterial vs the demonstrated

RE: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Jacob
: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:16 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Education BSC here, in math/physics, and MSC in computer technologies. Actually, CF may be the 20th language I learned and used. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Mark Atkinson
Guess I'm a little outnumbered - I have no degree. But then I'm an old fa*t who's been around and worked in everything over the years from law to construction before being wowed by the amazing combination of art and science that is the internet. Our Web Manager has a degree in nutritional

RE: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Stewart
to work anyways. -Original Message- From: Mark Atkinson [mailto:ma...@aocs.org] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:07 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Education Guess I'm a little outnumbered - I have no degree. But then I'm an old fa*t who's been around and worked in everything over the years

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Judah McAuley
I have a BS is Mathematics with minors in Biology and Physics. My course work definitely helped me as it taught me about thinking algorithmically and problem solving. I do work with some folks with actual CS degrees and their background does come in useful on occasion. For instance, we had to

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread s. isaac dealey
This may be more of a cf-community rather then cf-talk discussion. Actually there's a cf-jobs-talk list specifically for these kinds of threads... It doesn't get much traffic. Personally I'm not particular about where the thread shows up. Mike may move this one shortly.

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread s. isaac dealey
Of around 8-9 devs in our team over the last 18 months we had one developer with a comp science degree. He was worse than an appalling programmer, though I suspect that is not typical. I took a short-term project for the state of TX a couple years ago. The project manager at the time told me

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread s. isaac dealey
In fact i have doubts about whether a degree course could possibly keep up with the changes in technology. At best a degree course would only be able to teach general principles, because the technology would have moved on by the time any graduates actually came into the work force with teh

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Allen Souliere
computer science or education. From a practical standpoint, experience does count the most. I think, though, that a lot of companies use 'must have a a degree' as a brainless filter to try and weed out a large number of applicants. Its an attitude that has always been there. I personally believe

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Eric Cobb
Heh...nuclear physics...ColdFusioncoincidence? I think not! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion Thanks, Eric Cobb http://www.cfgears.com s. isaac dealey wrote: Of around 8-9 devs in our team over the last 18 months we had one developer with a comp science degree. He was worse

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Billy Cox
BS and an MA in religion, but I was self-taught on computers since I was a kid. (good Friday thread, btw) Dominic Watson wrote: 1st Class Honours in Musical Theatre here... Of around 8-9 devs in our team over the last 18 months we had one developer with a comp science degree. He was worse

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Larry Lyons
I have something similar, except its in Psychology. Mind you in order for me to get through graduate psych (MA and PhD - not finished yet), I had to learn to code. That said the psychology degrees were quite helpful, especially those courses dealing with cognition and perception. I've got a

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Tony Bentley
development education has been determined by demand. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Ian Skinner
s. isaac dealey wrote: Just looking at ColdFusion alone, we've had a new major version every year for the past 4 years. CF 9 - 2009 CF 8 - 2008 CF 7 - 2007 CF 6 - 2006. I think you memory of the ColdFusion version's is a little compressed since I clearly remember the buzz of ColdFusion 6

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Ian Skinner
Ian Skinner wrote: CF 9 - 2009 CF 8 - 2008 CF 7 - 2007 CF 6 - 2006. I believe that ColdFusion development cycle is two to three years per version. According to Wikipedia yes every two or three years. 2002-May : Macromedia ColdFusion MX version 6.0 2005 : Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7

RE: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Rick Faircloth
of Higher Education...although, I would hardly truly qualify for a doctorate in the course material here...I just know enough to make a living as a free-lancer (what else is there a need for? :o) Rick -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] Sent: Friday, October 23

RE: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Mark Kruger
think. -Mark Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:10 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Education I have 5 degrees

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread John M Bliss
] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:10 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Education I have 5 degrees: - Associate of Arts (1980) - Bachelor of Music (1983) - Master of Theology (1992) and the most applicable ones for programming and business: - Masters from the School of Hard Knocks

RE: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Rick Faircloth
, 2009 4:19 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Education Rick, That is so funny I have a BA in Theology, a BA in Music and I'm just shy of a master in Sociology - and here I am working in computer development :) It's not surprising how many folks have Music as a part of their skill set who are also

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Gerald Guido
Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:10 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Education I have 5 degrees: - Associate of Arts (1980) - Bachelor of Music (1983) - Master of Theology (1992) and the most applicable ones for programming

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Gerald Guido
composition, it's quite OO. ;o) Rick -Original Message- From: Mark Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 4:19 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Education Rick, That is so funny I have a BA in Theology, a BA in Music and I'm just shy of a master

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Billy Cox
Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 4:19 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Education Rick, That is so funny I have a BA in Theology, a BA in Music and I'm just shy of a master in Sociology - and here I am working in computer development :) It's not surprising

RE: Education

2009-10-23 Thread brad
*Raises hand* Band geek all the way. One time at band camp... Original Message Subject: RE: Education From: Mark Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com Date: Fri, October 23, 2009 3:19 pm To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Rick, That is so funny I have a BA in Theology, a BA

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Billy Cox
...this story doesn't involve a flute I hope. b...@bradwood.com wrote: *Raises hand* Band geek all the way. One time at band camp... Original Message Subject: RE: Education From: Mark Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com Date: Fri, October 23, 2009 3:19 pm To: cf-talk cf

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread s. isaac dealey
Rick Faircloth: I think you're right, Mark. Music, especially theory, is very logical and an lot like programming...just a different medium. If you get into orchestral composition, it's quite OO. ;o) I have a completely untested hunch that the language centers of the brain have more

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread s. isaac dealey
John M. Bliss: At least anecdotally, I'd say that the other part of the brain with a strong connection to code is the part responsible for language and communication. D'oh! Should have replied to this one instead. ;) -- s. isaac dealey :: AutLabs Creating meaningful employment for people

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2009-10-23 Thread s. isaac dealey
Eric Cobb: Heh...nuclear physics...ColdFusioncoincidence? I think not! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion Yeah, he mentioned that one day when we were talking about his background. He said he'd kind of stumbled into the job, was working in an office somewhere and a guy came in and

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Speaking as a non-musician. Actually I think I really am onejust never had the time to keep playing ;-) I love music and in life and work all I see are patterns and how things fit or could fitwhich to me sounds a lot like what Isaac said here: Like

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread s. isaac dealey
That said the psychology degrees were quite helpful, especially those courses dealing with cognition and perception. I really wish I'd paid more attention to your comments on the lists a few years ago. ;) -- s. isaac dealey :: AutLabs Creating meaningful employment for people with Autism

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2009-10-23 Thread s. isaac dealey
Ian Skinner: I think you memory of the ColdFusion version's is a little compressed since I clearly remember the buzz of ColdFusion 6 back in 2000-2001. That doesn't surprise me... :) I didn't go check, I was just throwing off the top of my head. But I could still easily see someone being 2

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Gerald Guido
Well Ike, there are only 12 notes (words) in western music. Hell of a language where almost all the meaning is in the timber, cadence and inflection. Odd how something that is essentially a mathematical construct with a vocabulary of 12 words can convey nearly an infinite shades of meaning. But

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: Well Ike, there are only 12 notes (words) in western music. Hell of a language where almost all the meaning is in the timber, cadence and inflection. Odd how something that is essentially a mathematical construct

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread s. isaac dealey
Well Ike, there are only 12 notes (words) in western music. Hell of a language where almost all the meaning is in the timber, cadence and inflection. There is that. Although I was thinking more particularly about sheet music and things like timing, how 4/4 makes the meaning of the placement

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread s. isaac dealey
Judah McAuley: Recombination and repetition can produce surprising beauty and complexity. Indeed, it is almost always the only thing that does. I'm suddenly reminded of an unrelated Margaret Mead quote. :) -- s. isaac dealey :: AutLabs Creating meaningful employment for people with Autism

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2009-10-23 Thread Sean Corfield
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: While I put a high premium on autodidacticism, there is some thing to be said having a college degree. Namely, that during the period of life when one is most prone to screwing up, they managed to commit to some thing

RE: Education

2009-10-23 Thread brad
Well Ike, there are only 12 notes (words) in western music. Actually there are 12 divisions to the octave in almost all music. Different cultures tend to use various modes to define their scale. (Lydian, Dorian, Mixolydian, etc) And then a broad range of simple triads or more complex chords

Re: Education

2009-10-23 Thread Gerald Guido
So, what's free-form jazz? Is that kind of like when you just make up code and hope it compiles? Pretty much. ;) 'cept for Coltrane and Miles. G! -- Gerald Guido http://www.myinternetisbroken.com Wait. We can't stop here. This is bat country. -- HST

Re: cf server for education

2009-01-23 Thread Gerald Guido
Here is the DL page. It has the terms of usage there: https://freeriatools.adobe.com/coldfusion/ On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:42 AM, John Barrett barrjo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I don't know where the best place to ask this on cf talk, so I try here. Has anybody used the free education server

cf server for education

2009-01-22 Thread John Barrett
Hi, I don't know where the best place to ask this on cf talk, so I try here. Has anybody used the free education server from adobe? I am working on a free site for the University of Hawaii(http://manoa.hawaii.edu/gotnutrients), I am also a student there. Are there any limits on this server

Re: cf server for education

2009-01-22 Thread Brad Wood
I believe you actually need to be teaching a class in ColdFusion to get the education license. If the school wants to build their site in CF, they will need to pay. If you are a student and just want to play around, just download the developer edition directly off the adobe website

in need of education

2005-02-01 Thread Tim Laureska
I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that I need some educatin' with respect to structures, arrays, evaluation function, list creation/manipulation .all that sort of stuff I've been doing a lot of learn as you go/googling for solutions etc, but that type of training is costing too much time

RE: in need of education

2005-02-01 Thread COLLIE David
I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that I need some educatin' with respect to structures, arrays, evaluation function, list creation/manipulation .all that sort of stuff Like this when I started http://www.depressedpress.com/depressedpress/Content/Development/ColdFu

RE: in need of education

2005-02-01 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that I need some educatin' with respect to structures, arrays, evaluation function, list creation/manipulation .all that sort of stuff I've been doing a lot of learn as you go/googling for solutions

RE: in need of education

2005-02-01 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Tim, Depends on what kind of help you neeed Ping me offline if you like. N -Original Message- From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2005 16:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: in need of education I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that I need some educatin

Re: in need of education

2005-02-01 Thread Qasim Rasheed
Here is a good book about CF List, Arrays and Structures http://www.cafepress.com/protonarts.9983243 On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:51:07 -0500, Tim Laureska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that I need some educatin' with respect to structures, arrays, evaluation

Re: in need of education

2005-02-01 Thread Charlie Griefer
http://tutorial171.easycfm.com/ http://tutorial172.easycfm.com/ http://tutorial173.easycfm.com/ a 3 parter that covers arrays, structures, and combining the two. if you've got time to check it out, i'd be interested in your feedback :) On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:51:07 -0500, Tim Laureska [EMAIL

Re: in need of education

2005-02-01 Thread Greg Hamm
You can try Jeff's book: http://www.cafepress.com/protonarts.9983243 On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:51:07 -0500, Tim Laureska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that I need some educatin' with respect to structures, arrays, evaluation function, list creation/manipulation

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