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2002-01-09 Thread kre...@juno.com
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 23:08:18 -0600 Timm Murray writes: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tuesday 08 January 2002 17:45, you wrote: > > Said krepta at juno.com on Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:13:43PM -0700, > > > > > I propose that all further posts from MJR be ignored. All in

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2002-01-08 Thread Timm Murray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 08 January 2002 17:45, you wrote: > Said krepta at juno.com on Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:13:43PM -0700, > > > I propose that all further posts from MJR be ignored. All in favor say > > "YAY!". :) > > New to the list? > > Let me be the first

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2002-01-08 Thread Timm Murray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 08 January 2002 17:13, you wrote: > I propose that all further posts from MJR be ignored. All in favor say > "YAY!". :) Nay, only communists would want to ignore MJR. - -- X windows: There's got to be a better way. -BEGIN PGP

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2002-01-08 Thread Jason Smith
Said krepta at juno.com on Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:13:43PM -0700, > I propose that all further posts from MJR be ignored. All in favor say > "YAY!". :) New to the list? Let me be the first to welcome you. -- fingerprint: 740F B8D9 DF20 362C F5BC CDE6 6923 5A48 7657 541F lynx -source

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2002-01-08 Thread kre...@juno.com
I propose that all further posts from MJR be ignored. All in favor say "YAY!". :) I think MJR just really LOVES flamewars, will say just about anything to get one started, then sit back and enjoy. :) HEEHE! On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:22:43 -0800 ian at hawk.freenetproject.org (Ian Clarke) writes: >

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2002-01-08 Thread kre...@juno.com
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 20:37:12 -0600 Mark J Roberts writes: > Travis Bemann: > > government is amoral and has no ethics > > Why, then, does our government punish criminals and not innocent > people? Why does it fight murderous totalitarian communism, and not > wage war on democracy and our free

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2002-01-08 Thread Jack Sidebottom
ate: 08 January 2002 02:57:30 To: chat at freenetproject.org Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] The Coming Storm On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 11:06:18PM -0600, Mark J Roberts wrote: > Glenn McGrath: > > Dmitry Skylarov > > Comrade Skylarov is a known communist and former KGB officer. Whether

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2002-01-07 Thread Reed Hedges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, January 7, 2002, at 02:55 PM, Kevin Atkinson wrote: >> >> I think music is an important area in which to spread the world and >> finght the battles-- as well as the other arts (visual, literary, >> cinematic...) independent musicians,

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2002-01-07 Thread Travis Bemann
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:45:36PM +, Timm Murray wrote: > Travis, I thought you were starting to learn to avoid Mark's trolls. It was just too tempting to resist. Everyone likes a good flamewar, anyways. :) -- Yes, I know my enemies. They're the teachers who tell me to fight me.

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2002-01-07 Thread Jack Sidebottom
Hi,I have been reading all your mail regarding "coming storm" with interest. If one knows the history of America one comes to the conclusion that it is a Country which could be best described as totalitarian. Being British i am used to total freedom in my way of life my government does not tell

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2002-01-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
Josh (josh at mercuryfs.net) wrote: > I think our legal system is quite > efficient when the innocent/guilty ratio is the viewpoint. In other words, > most of the people locked up have broken the law. That doesn't mean they've done anything wrong, though. What percentage of laws (US or

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2002-01-07 Thread g'o'tz ohnesorge
Mark J Roberts wrote: > communist and pedophile (he "earned" his doctorate with sexual > favors) Noam Chomsky exudes from the ivory tower, the simple and > obvious fact is that our government rocks. The government of the Netherlands has shown more brains in resisting a silly war on drugs .. but

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2002-01-07 Thread Glenn McGrath
> > Your government has 25% of the worlds prison population. > > Probably because our cops and prosecutors are better than yours. Separately,> we lock up far to many non violent drug offenders. Add that together and we> have too many prisoners. But 25% of the world's population has to be a wrong>

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2002-01-07 Thread Mark J Roberts
g'o'tz ohnesorge: > How can you earn a doctorate with sexual favours, and be a > pedophile at the same time? The depravity of communism knows no limits. For every morally reprehensible thing we know about those godless communists, we're ignorant of a dozen.

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2002-01-07 Thread Mark J Roberts
Travis Bemann: > And did you forget all the stuff he did with linguistics... Talk > about ad hominem - those two words adequately describe at least this > whole paragraph of yours. You insolent pinko. How dare you libel me with your baseless communist accusations of intellectual dishonesty. >

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2002-01-07 Thread Glenn McGrath
haha, at least now i know you wernt being serious, i shouldnt have been suckered in by your troll. ___ Chat mailing list Chat at freenetproject.org http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/chat

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2002-01-07 Thread Kevin Atkinson
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Reed Hedges wrote: > I'm not sure you can. > > What I mean is, I'm not sure you can instantaneously enlighten someone > by a convincing argument-- unless they're interested in the topic > already. But, if you can get people interested in the net as a new > world of freedom

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2002-01-07 Thread Timm Murray
Travis, I thought you were starting to learn to avoid Mark's trolls. > On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 08:37:12PM -0600, Mark J Roberts wrote: > > Travis Bemann: > > > government is amoral and has no ethics > > > > Why, then, does our government punish criminals and not innocent > > people? Why does it

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2002-01-07 Thread Glenn McGrath
> For some reason I usually side with republicans when it comes to foreign> policy. Hmmm... The really sad thing about this whole WTO/Afghanistan issue is that the US still hasnt learn from its mistakes. If the US is going to throw their weight around internatioanlly (like they have for the

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2002-01-07 Thread Aaron Guy Davies
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Jack Sidebottom wrote: > Hi,I have been reading all your mail regarding "coming storm" with interest. > If one knows the history of America one comes to the conclusion that it is > a Country which could be best described as totalitarian. Being British i am > used to total

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2002-01-07 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 20:37:12 -0600 "Mark J Roberts" wrote: > Travis Bemann: > > government is amoral and has no ethics > > Why, then, does our government punish criminals and not innocent > people? Why does it fight murderous totalitarian communism, and not > wage war on democracy and our free

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2002-01-07 Thread Reed Hedges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, January 6, 2002, at 11:31 PM, Josh wrote: > * I don't suppose it occurred to you that, if there WAS a UFO at Area > 51, > * it obviously wasn't kept secret. > > Show me the proof that there is one. > > This world needs a cheap renewable

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2002-01-07 Thread Reed Hedges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > remember that government is amoral and has no > ethics, practically by definition. Please give a definition of government. > to the people in government and the > ruling class in general, all non-ruling class life is purely expendable To the

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2002-01-07 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:47:55 -0800 "Josh" wrote: > How can a democratic government be immoral? Perhaps you only focus on the> things our government does wrong, which I admit is a lot, but perhaps you> should consider that all governments do things wrong, and only in America do> we have the press

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2002-01-07 Thread Timm Murray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 07 January 2002 11:21, you wrote: > Hi,I have been reading all your mail regarding "coming storm" with > interest. If one knows the history of America one comes to the conclusion > that it is a Country which could be best described as

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2002-01-07 Thread Reed Hedges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 11:41 PM, krepta at juno.com wrote: > I'm even beginning to wonder whether or > not certain individuals in our government KNEW of this attack before it > occured and were just waiting to grab at the chance to take

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2002-01-07 Thread Reed Hedges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm not sure you can. What I mean is, I'm not sure you can instantaneously enlighten someone by a convincing argument-- unless they're interested in the topic already. But, if you can get people interested in the net as a new world of freedom

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2002-01-07 Thread Mr. Smith
I think you have a part in the next lord of the rings installment. --- Mark J Roberts wrote: __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Chat mailing

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2002-01-07 Thread Tavin Cole
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 10:34:51PM -0800, Josh wrote: > > So your proof that there is no government cover-up of UFOs is: > > 1. if there were, there would be a lot of leaked information, > > since the government can't keep secrets > > Correct! There is no solid proof, and that's

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2002-01-07 Thread Tavin Cole
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:54:09PM -0800, Josh wrote: > But if they wanted to invade us, it would have been many ships, right? ... > Unless it was the Romulans, then perhaps the fleet was cloaked.. No? > > >> I'm curious, do you believe in ghosts / the supernatural / psychics? > (not > >> an

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2002-01-07 Thread Tavin Cole
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:08:57PM -0800, Josh wrote: > > if there's one thing we've learned from Star Trek, it's that all > > alien species think more or less like us > > If they have the technology to get here, then we can assume they understand > basic biology. Common sense, no? You can

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2002-01-06 Thread Tavin Cole
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 08:31:40PM -0800, Josh wrote: > * I don't suppose it occurred to you that, if there WAS a UFO at Area 51, > * it obviously wasn't kept secret. > > Show me the proof that there is one. > > This world needs a cheap renewable power source, like a fusion reactor that > can

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2002-01-06 Thread Timm Murray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 06 January 2002 21:27, you wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 20:37:12 -0600 > > "Mark J Roberts" wrote: > > Travis Bemann: > > > government is amoral and has no ethics > > > > Why, then, does our government punish criminals and not innocent > >

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2002-01-06 Thread Mark J Roberts
Glenn McGrath: > Dmitry Skylarov Comrade Skylarov is a known communist and former KGB officer. > Your government murders its prisoners (capital punishment), your > government dictates to the world via your foreign policy, how is the US > government not murdering totalirians ? Are you jealous

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2002-01-06 Thread Josh
project.org [mailto:chat-ad...@freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Tavin Cole Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:09 PM To: chat at freenetproject.org Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] The Coming Storm On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:54:09PM -0800, Josh wrote: > But if they wanted to invade us, it

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2002-01-06 Thread Timm Murray
> wrong here. > > For some reason I usually side with republicans when it comes to foreign > policy. Hmmm... > > -Original Message- > From: chat-admin at freenetproject.org [mailto:chat-admin at > freenetproject.org] > On Behalf Of Mark J Roberts > Sent

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2002-01-06 Thread Timm Murray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 06 January 2002 21:47, you wrote: <> > I seriously doubt that congress and the president consider you and I to be > expendable. And that's when they reinstitue the draft . . . - -- He's like a function--he returns a value, in the form of

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2002-01-06 Thread Josh
January 06, 2002 9:45 PM To: chat at freenetproject.org Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] The Coming Storm On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:08:57PM -0800, Josh wrote: > > if there's one thing we've learned from Star Trek, it's that all > > alien species think more or less like us > &

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2002-01-06 Thread Travis Bemann
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 03:05:06PM -0500, Kevin Atkinson wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Timm Murray wrote: > > > I am certain that the FBI and other similar groups have been waiting for > > something like this for years so they can get in all their wiretapping laws > > and such. While elected

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2002-01-06 Thread Mark J Roberts
Ian Clarke: > I took the accusation from a representative of the Church of > Scientology that *I* was a pedophile as quite a compliment in this > light Oh, I agree entirely, those half-wit commies inevitably resort to such petty childish name-calling. They also seem quite fond of brainwashing and

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2002-01-06 Thread Josh
of shit. -Original Message- From: chat-admin at freenetproject.org [mailto:chat-ad...@freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Glenn McGrath Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:28 PM To: chat at freenetproject.org Subject:Re: [freenet-chat] The Coming Storm On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 20:37:12 -060

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2002-01-06 Thread Josh
hat-ad...@freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Tavin Cole Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 8:57 PM To: chat at freenetproject.org Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] The Coming Storm On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 08:31:40PM -0800, Josh wrote: > * I don't suppose it occurred to you that, if there WAS a UFO a

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2002-01-06 Thread Mark J Roberts
Travis Bemann: > government is amoral and has no ethics Why, then, does our government punish criminals and not innocent people? Why does it fight murderous totalitarian communism, and not wage war on democracy and our free market? Despite whatever paranoid, drug-induced ramblings the admitted

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2002-01-06 Thread Josh
at freenetproject.org [mailto:chat-ad...@freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Tavin Cole Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 8:14 PM To: chat at freenetproject.org Subject:Re: [freenet-chat] The Coming Storm On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 09:07:37PM -0800, Josh wrote: > The government can't hide conspirac

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2002-01-06 Thread Josh
: chat-admin at freenetproject.org [mailto:chat-ad...@freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Glenn McGrath Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:04 PM To: chat at freenetproject.org Subject:Re: [freenet-chat] The Coming Storm On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:47:55 -0800 "Josh" wrote:

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2002-01-06 Thread Josh
Roberts Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:20 PM To: chat at freenetproject.org Subject:Re: [freenet-chat] The Coming Storm Ian Clarke: > I took the accusation from a representative of the Church of > Scientology that *I* was a pedophile as quite a compliment in this > lig

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2002-01-06 Thread Kevin Atkinson
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Timm Murray wrote: > I am certain that the FBI and other similar groups have been waiting for > something like this for years so they can get in all their wiretapping laws > and such. While elected areas of the government may be prone to stupidity, > the unelected areas (such

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2002-01-06 Thread Timm Murray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 05 January 2002 23:07, you wrote: > > I'm even beginning to wonder whether or > > not certain individuals in our government > > KNEW of this attack before it > > occured and were just waiting to grab at the > > chance to take away our

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2002-01-05 Thread Kevin Atkinson
When I first read the slashdot article "Lawrence Lessig Answers Your Questions" (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/12/21/155221) I cried, which is really saying something as I do not cry often. And since them I have been having a wide variety of fixed emotions. But I think it settled down to

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2002-01-05 Thread kre...@juno.com
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 23:11:12 -0500 (EST) Kevin Atkinson writes: > When I first read the slashdot article "Lawrence Lessig Answers Your > Questions" (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/12/21/155221) I I have no net connection, at least not till pay day, so I can't see this or any other

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2002-01-05 Thread Josh
ect.org Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] The Coming Storm On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 23:11:12 -0500 (EST) Kevin Atkinson writes: > When I first read the slashdot article "Lawrence Lessig Answers Your > Questions" (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/12/21/155221) I I have no net connection

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2002-01-05 Thread Josh
turday, January 05, 2002 8:11 PM To: chat at freenetproject.org Subject: [freenet-chat] The Coming Storm When I first read the slashdot article "Lawrence Lessig Answers Your Questions" (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/12/21/155221) I cried, which is really saying something as I