It looks like on page 433, he's describing a situation where the network
does not have any broadcast capabilities. Broadcast networks are able to
utilize the multicast feature(224.0.0.5) to send hello packets while NBMA
and point to multipoint will utilize unicast hello packets because they have
Good to have support from all of you.
The problem is fixed. It is the config-register that was set to 0x2142
instead of 0x2102. I have never set this to 0x2142. Somehow the
config-register was set to wrong value. Maybe the config-register was
changed to that value when the upgrade failed the f
My guess is the port could be bad.
Absolutely Positively Continuously Sincerely,
Duy NguyenCCNP/CCIE written
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>From: "routerjocky"
>Reply-To: "routerjocky"
>To:
>CC:
>Subject: weird termsrv problem
>Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 00:05:16 -0700
>
>I'm
Dear All,
I am using 12.1(5)YB4 realease of Cisco IOS on 1700 platform. I am running
VoIP over the Internet using 64K PPP leased line from my internet service
provider.
interface FastEthernet0/0
ip address xx.xx.xx.xx 255.255.255.240
no ip route-cache
no ip mroute-cache
speed auto
full-dupl
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The older 1900's are the only ones I've had problems getting into before.
There'll be a post in the archives where I listed the pin-outs.
After messing about with a breakout box, I found that there was a loop
needed between two of the pins on the older 1900's.
I got hold of a genuine 1900 console
Everybody's showing you the intelligent way, so I thought I'd try showing
you my "Subnetting for dummies" method - Works for me- If you can follow the
explanation, the calculation is childs play (Please excuse all incorrect
network terms used for explanation (broken octets, chunks etc)):
"Say I h
Ole, I apologize for getting back so late! I went out of town after
originally responding and just returned back.
Actually the 3500 switches support the copper GBIC as well, just make sure
you put a newer IOS on the switch or it won't recognize it. That's the
beauty of the GBIC design - all are
Check the placement of your terminal server. Line noise will cause this
problem. Sho Line should give you some indication, under the noise column.
I actually had Cisco warranty out a 2511 for this problem, only to find
moving it away from my 4000's & grounding the rack was the fix.
All the best
Hi all,
I'm asking this as a matter of interest after something I saw this week:
Given the following line of config:
enable secret 5 $1$32Pc$uq7Tr7gq4v22PqEG4WFF90
What are the chances of cracking the enable secret? (Without raising
suspicicion by having 40 million attempts on the box itself.)
Wow- great research Brad !!!
I just checked my 506 power supply # it's OK...
Phil
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To:
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 11:10 PM
Subject: OT: Cisco Power Adapter Recall [7:23645]
> See below:
>
> http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/p/014/01270.ht
Lee- I'm not sure if you realize that you're asking about a feature of
IPSec. IKE stands for Internet Key Exchange and is a part of the Cisco
IPSec process. I have a Cisco PDF from a class I took a year or so ago.
Let me know if you are interested...
All the best !!!
Phil
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I haven't lost code in a 2600 or 3600 lately, but if I recall correctly I
had to use Xmodem. Follow the instructions to change the HyperTerminal
speed to 115200 @ ROMMON & pull the file through your console connection.
If it's a large image, pull some smaller IP version that will allow you to
use
My most recent post (an anwer to ITGuy's acl query) didn't appear. this is a
test.
:-{)]
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Trying this post again...
Basically, the wildcard mask's 1 bits are the bits that will be ignored in
the ip address.
172.16.1.0 0.0.0.127
and
172.16.1.128 0.0.0.127
both refer to all addresses that share the same bit-structure for the first
25 bits...in the first case the 25th bit is a 1, in t
While I don't judge people by their mistakes, I do tend to judge them by how
they correct them. Was it Debbie's fault your systems went down? No. I
don't pretend to live in a world where malfunctions don't happen, but when
your "systems" take a crap you should be ready to deal with the fallout.
There are several tools available to reverse the standard cisco password
encryption. However, the output that you show for enable secret isn't the
standard encrypted password; rather, it's the output of a one-way hash on
the password (the whole point of enable secret). So, I'd say that the
c
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AFAIK, this product is now WANDL IPAT at http://www.wandl.com
Not sure if there are any eval CDs for it.
Geoff Zinderdine
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> I am trying to find information about the Netsys Baseliner, as far as I
I just got DSL. I have a 2611 and want to use this as
a firewall since this is a 24X7X365 connection. I
found out my DSL router changes the IP every 24hours.
I have found a command that allows me to receive an IP
address on E0 or E1, which ever I choose as the
outside interface, and want to kno
Rick hit it right on the head. I take an apology from a "sale" guy with a
grain of salt. Robert, why don't you do the honorable thing and sell to
debbie what she bidded for when she placed the order? I teach networking a
a community college and I have a lot of students asking me where they c
I wouldn't worry too much about the raw numbers. A lot of these supposed
1700 a month are VERY good at memorization, and have not touched routers and
switches for more than 10 or 12 hours altogether. I have trouble believing
the number is quite that high, because the lab dates do not seem to be
> My most recent post (an anwer to ITGuy's acl query) didn't appear. this is
a test.
I've had problems with missing posts as well
Tim Booth
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I wholeheartedly agree. I'm just starting out in the industry and having
seen some CCIE practice questions, I wonder why this is such an
accomplishment for some. The written is not that much harder than the CCNP
tests (someone with a few weeks and good books on their hands can pass the
written).
The enable secret would not be an easy thing to crack. The enable password,
however, can be cracked easily with a number of utilities available for free
on the internet.
If you have hackers attacking your network who have the capability to crack
the enable secret then you have much bigger proble
"ccie r catching up with ...mcse now"
That's a bit of a wild inaccurate statement.
I reckon after doing my CCNP it wouldn't take too long to get past the CCIE
written with 4 to 6 weeks good study.
I reckon the CCIE Lab could take me a year or more of hard work to get
anywhere near it, if ever.
I am participating in a study group at Cisco here in the Dallas area. Even
the Cisco Engineers in the group are there for their own edification to help
them pass. I know if I had access to the lab equipment all the time like
they
do, I would be feeling fairly confident. I haven't even attempted
Are you posting by mail ? There was a problem with some mail a few days
back due to a system upgrade I believe.
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> a test.
>
> I've had prob
Hi Folks,
Question :
1. What is the transmision rate in Mbs againts distance, meaning that if you
are the only user on the AP will the data transfer rate degrade when you are
getting far away from the AP.
2. What is the max distance from AP to workstation.
3. If your server is runing DHCP, AP se
I am trying to connect two cat5500s and am unable to get port channel to
come online. I have configured both sides below is the config of the ports.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. These are production switches the
only thing I have to done is reboot them. For some reason they are not
rec
You cannot do both as desirable. One must be desirable and the
other auto. Or you can try forcing the modes to "on" and "on". That might
fix it!
At 12:57 PM 10/21/01 -0400, Brad Moss wrote:
>I am trying to connect two cat5500s and am unable to get port channel to
>come online. I have config
>From what I understand, the enable secret is MD5 encrypted. If my memory
serves me right, the password file on Linux system (/etc/shadow)is also md5
encrypted. If that is the case, there are utilities on the
Internet that can be used to crack this baby. Granted that it is going to
require m
The reason I asked was to see if other peoples impression was the same as
mine. I've got the tools for the level 7 passwords, but was under the
impression that the enable secret was almost impossible.
I do some work for a fairly large company that had some penetration testing
done this week by a g
Thanks.. I also found another problem in the sho config all
The vlans on 1/1 and 1/2 are different. I did not realize it until I tried
to force the channel on and it told me so. I assumed they were the same
looking at the sho po when it said trunk.
Thanks again.
Brad Moss CCNA
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Right. One thing that is a little out is BW 4000MB and ring speed 16
Mbps.
Fred
Dennis Laganiere wrote:
>
> I just wanted to double-check myself. The line #9 from the following "show
> interface token-ring 0" output says...
>
> 1.) TokenRing 0 is up, line protocol is up
> 2.) Hardware is Dua
What does "show port capabilities" show you Brad?
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> I am trying to connect two cat5500s and am unable to get port channel to
> come online. I have configured both sides below is the config of the
ports.
> Any help wou
Ports can form an EtherChannel when they are in different channel modes as
long as the modes are compatible. For example:
a.. A port in desirable mode can form an EtherChannel successfully with
another port that is in desirable or auto mode.
b.. A port in auto mode can form an EtherChannel wi
Yeah, sorry for the misinformation before. Here is the a good way
to remember the modes. The most part, PaGP is either auto or
desirable. Or you can just turn the pesky thing on or
off. (non-PaGp). Of course it will only work if you are both on if you
choose the non-PaGp mode. As for kno
Jim,
point-to-multipoint can be both broadcast and non-broadcast.
In case it is configured as broadcast (default when you
configure 'ip ospf network point-to-multipoint), it will
treat interface as collection of point-to-point links and will
use multicast, just as on point-to-point link. If it is
Gareth,
I create an "enable secret" password on a Cisco router 2610 with the
password as you mentioned "kittens". Remember this is an MD5 encrypted
string ($1$Em47$DEsFfXv/Px6y/cEmjMwfE0). You know what, I take this string
and use the program called "john the ripper" running on my linux box t
Anh,
Sorry for my question about your test below. This program "john the
ripper", is
it working with dictionaries or not? Because my question is, if I use
passwords
like "12eldkvi", which are not in any dics, how long you need then to
crack a
MD5-password?
Regards
Sacha
-Urspr|ngliche Nach
In order for the second-best path to be used for unequal-cost load
balancing using variance, it MUST meet the feasibility condition. IOW, it
has to qualify to be the feasible successor route. If it doesn't, it won't
matter how great you make the variance value.
Francis, look at the output of
I would imagine that if using a-z and 0 to 9, with 8 characters there would
be 8 to the power 36 combinations (I think).
Trouble is those numbers are getting too large for me to have any concept of
how long it would take to hack. We'd need to get an idea of how long each
attempt takes.
Looking ba
If the password is NOT in the dictionary, then it would take considerable
amount of time to crack it. I've not tried it yet so I can't tell you;
however, given the power of PC's these days, I wouldn't be suprised that it
will not take very long. Furthermore, if someone really want to crack th
perhaps this is why sho run and sho conf are not level 1 commands??
Brian "Sonic" Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Gareth Hinton wrote:
> The reason I asked was to see if other peoples impression was the same as
> mine. I've got the tools for the level 7 password
No problem, I was looking up on CCO, the Etherchannel configuration for ios
5.4 and it confirmed my thoughts and yours. I was able to the get line up as
a channel once I turned off trunking, set the right vlan to the ports,
assigned po channel 8/2-3 desirable and 1/1-2 auto, and turned trunking ba
If routers and switches are configured to use TACACS then both the EXEC
(level7) and enable secret password are pretty much useless. For some
hackers to get onto a router or a switch with EXEC and enable secret, the
TACACS server must not be reachable by the router and switch. Only at that
po
hey man,
try another IOS in order to eliminate a possible SW issue (yes, even though
it might of been working before without problem!)
jaz
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Cc:
Hello,
I am looking for a good guide/tutitorial on how to upgrade the IOS image
from one 2500 series router to another. I thought I read somewhere that you
could do this with just the two routers hooked together but I don't know if
that is true or not.
Any good links or help is greatly appreciat
You sure can, you just need to configure one of them as a TFTP server.
thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
Network Learning Inc
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> Hello,
> I am looking for a good guide/tuti
You can set a channel with desirable on both sides of a link... you can't
with auto/auto or anything with one side set to off, for obvious reasons...
What VLANs are the trunks set to carry? The VLAN settings must be
identical, as well as duplex and negotiation...
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You are correct, assuming fully random values. Let us not assume
that "4 hours" is a long time. If they have the hash, they have all the
time in the world and you will never know they are cracking away at
it. The hash MUST be and SHOULD be guarded at all costs. This definitely
stops the ne
I had a problem like this before on checking ,the memory and
cpu utilization was very high .what i did was just to run a smaller size
ios.This actually happen when i try configuring DLSW on the system.Try
change your ios
Regards
>try another IOS in order to eliminate a possible SW issue (y
Hey there GUY:
172.16.1.0 with a wildcard mask of 0.0.0.127
means the same as 172.16.1.0/25. In other words, only various combinations
of the last seven bits may have been manipulated to form the host addresses
that belong to the subnetwork that this acl will affect. This makes the
range 172.16.
It has to do brute force strength. Against an MD5, it does pretty
poorly, benching about 440 Cracks per second on a K6-200 with 160 megs of
ram. (ram is irrelevant to be honest). I am guessing that say a gigahertz
processor might do a linear increase to about ~2000 Cracks per
second. This
Can someone in this group help me with this problem?
I am trying to setup VPN connections for remote users (people
who use laptops on the road or when people to who are on their
own corporate network) to connect to my home network using
IPSec. I am using a PIX515-UR Firewall at my home network.
I looked at their web site. What are they doing? Asking retail for
refurbished equipment? They say "all unreasonable offers will be refused".
Give me a break. I think better deals can be found on eBay, and we all know
you usually don't get any deals there.
Now if only I had something useful t
The book did not make it clear but both are right.
1. If your use "point-to-multipoint" command on interface, the routing
packets will be send using multicast packet.
2. If you use "point-to-multipoint non-broadcast" command on interface, you
need "neighbor" under "router ospf" and the routing pa
My guess, which could be totally wrong:
You have service password-encryption on, so the text after the 7 in your
password string should be encrypted. It is in your username statements,
which decrypts to cisco, but according to the configs "cisco" is the
encrypted password in the ppp pap sent-user
Hi Keyur,
Congrats... and thanks for your tips...
Regards.,
Vasu
On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 Keyur Shah wrote :
> hi,
>
> I passed ccie security lab yesterday. I was told that i
> did really well in
> the lab and scored nearly perfect.
>
> My advice to the folks preparing for this lab is the
> f
That makes sense. A hierarchical network design is already a tree!
Thanks.
Priscilla
At 10:55 PM 10/19/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
>Actually, Cisco teaches that in certain circumstances in the Core, you want
>to disable Spanning Tree Protocol (STP). I don't have the courseware with
>me at t
No... To STP, the entire bundle of links in an etherchannel count towards
STP calculations... STP will not consider it a topology change until the
last link in an etherchannel fails...
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To:
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 11:08 AM
i just got a postcard from cisco about this through the post in britain.
free cisco 806 broadband solutions kit for download:
www.cisco.com/offer/806/d1203
ian
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minor technical errors, and shame on those bad boys with decades of high
level experience not noticing that some of the IP addresses in at least one
diagram have only THREE octets! ;->
Wow this book is good! Three appendi
Yep- I've got one of my 2600's working as the hub for IOS images. The
command is : #tftp-server
tftp-server flash c4000-is-mz.112-21.bin
tftp-server flash xx-in-mz.111-24a.bin
tftp-server flash c2500-io-l.120-15
I suspect anyone who worked Y2K knows this command by heart :o)
All the best !!!
P
I was able to dig up 2 switches with ATM modules in them and wanted to
practice setting up an ATM network between them; however, I can't find any
documentation on directly connecting the two switches. I can only fine docu
on connecting two switches together with a lightstream between them. Is it
p
Admin Distance comes into play when both routing protocols have exactly the
same route.
For example route 10.1.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0
If both RIP2 and OSPF know about this exact route then the route from OSPF
would be
used. This is because OSPF has an admin distance of 110 versus RIP of 120.
Le
BGP does not care. It all depends on routing policies you set up. This is
called
Asymmetrical routing. It is extremely common all over the internet.
About the Satellite link.
I would think long and hard about using a satellite link in the scenario
mentioned
below. Especially if there is inter
Below is an excerpt from a Cisco case study on multiple route reflectors
withing a cluster:
An important thing to note, is that peer-groups were not used in the above
configuration. If the clients inside a cluster do not have direct IBGP peers
among one another and they exchange updates through t
Look at the link speed in your bridge (was it BR340 or WGB340?).
Main difference on 19xx and 29xx was the density, force your bridge
to match the speed of the link rather than use auto. Make sense to me
all the time. :)
Ryan
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I've never understood why Cisco can't just make the written harder, much
harder. For example, they could just put the pass percentage at 95% or 98%
or something, and/or they could stipulate that if you could only attempt the
written a certain number of times per year. Not only would that get ri
Steven,
1) Distance/weather/LOS affect your transmission rate. Find out the exact
rate
in distance against the losses at
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/witc/ao340ap/prodlit/obrc_in.xls
2) Typically 90m @ open environment @ 11Mbps or 400m/open/1Mbps
3) Yes if multicast is turned o
Michael - please send me the list of prices...
Michael Paulson wrote:
>
> I am a network consultant working with a large financial firm. They
> just foreclosed on a Web hosting facility. The facility had quite a bit
> of Cisco gear. Most of the gear is between 6 and 12 months old. It is
> av
This may be one of those where I've overlooked something small (hope so
anyway) but can any one out there explain this issue:
router configued as in the below example...
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/701/45.html#3
I have a workstation on each end, one on the token-ring and one on the
etherne
When configuring route redistribution you are able to set a default metric
that will apply to all routes redistributed into a particular protocol. In
the case of EIGRP there are parameters that must be set, these are
bandwidth, delay, reliability, load, mtu. Although I understand these
parameters
and two penneth won't get you a MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks. I'll raise that to a
fiver if you can.
I recently undertook and completed MCSE 2000, this after having MCSE 4.0 and
3.51 which is to say that I've been "aware" of Microsoft products for some
time.
I took 7 exams because I didn't want to try
If I put in the effort to pass the written, I'd have no problem telling
people that in an interview. From the employer's perspective, if a
candidate says I'm a CCIE, its up to the employer to ask him/her to prove
it.
Brian "Sonic" Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001,
Hi. My name is Ulysses and I work for Transparent Technology. We have a
large project that will be taking place in the northeast, and we need CCIE's
with Cisco telephony certification. Please contact us with your contact info
if you are interested.
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> people that in an interview. From the employer's perspective, if a
> candidate says I'm a CCIE, its up to the employer to ask him/her to prov
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a
> fiver if you can.
>
> I recently undertook and completed MCSE 2000, this after having MCSE 4.0
and
> 3.51 which is to say that I've been "a
Old news (10 Oct) and I'll still give that fiver if you make MCSE in 6
weeks.
And I'm not pleased with that decision because I did the 7 W2K exams
including 2 design exams and I got my Gold card because as a contractor I
thought it important to keep current. (even though I'm running XP right now
I would like to purchase the ECP-1 and 2 materials. WHat's your price?
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Of course "CCIE Written" isn't a certification, no matter how many people
put it after their name.
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> It's fine to have a healthy opinion of Cisco vs Microsoft accreditations
but
> I do think you are severely underestimating the new Microsoft exams.
The new Microsoft exams are a joke. They do NOT test your knowledge on
Microsoft products. They're absolutely terrible tests IMO. Certainly they
Cisco People I need you help...
I would appreciate any help. I have a 6500Cat running Redundant Supervisor
engines and two MSFC installed one on each supervisor engine.
*
Mod Slot Ports Module-Type Model Sub Status
--- - - ---
Soon we will see
John Doe
Studying for CCNA,CCNP,CCIE,JCIE,MSCE(ALL),NET+,CNE
> Of course "CCIE Written" isn't a certification, no matter how many people
> put it after their name.
>
>
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Uh, what exactly is the JCIE?
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>
> John Doe
> Studying for CCNA,CCNP,CCIE,JCIE,MSCE(ALL),NET+,CNE
>
> > Of course "CCIE Written" isn't a certification, no matter how many
people
> > put it
Hello guys,
did anyone has a chance to take the ECP2 mentor tech class?
Regards
Zape
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>From the data connectivity, they both are the same (2948 or 3548). You use
the Gig uplink to interconnect between the switches. Cluster technology
(3548) is only used for the management of the switches (You can define one
IP address to the whole cluster (spanning multiple switches) in case of t
Comments in line.
Washington Rico wrote:
> Cisco People I need you help...
>
> I would appreciate any help. I have a 6500Cat running Redundant Supervisor
> engines and two MSFC installed one on each supervisor engine.
> *
> Mod Slot Ports Module-Type Model Sub St
Hi,
I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to create some sort of IP tunnel
on a port of my choice.
My problem is that I'm behind a firewall beyond my administration and I want
to create a connection between my homesite and my protected lab environment
inside the FW.
The firewall is open only f
I remember reading an older post here about a certain memory issue on older
supI cards with hardware revision 1.6 or older. Something about needing a
special HC or something dram upgrade. I found the article on CCO specifying
the problem. Does anyone know where I can get this special memory?
Than
Woah, all I was saying was that there are some scum out there that will pass
the written and claim to be CCIE.
Bri
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To:
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]
> ""Brian Whalen""
""Brian"" wrote in message
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> Woah, all I was saying was that there are some scum out there that will
pass
> the written and claim to be CCIE.
Oh, OK. Good, we're on the same page.
I have also seen situations where guys are more subtle about it, and
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