what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work experience.
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> what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work experience.
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I'd be surprised if you could find a CCIE with no work experience. Even
if you could, they wouldn't be worth that much, IMHO. Assuming I pass
in April, I'll have just over three years experience and a CCIE
certification. What does that mean?
Well, it means that if I leave my current job to loo
I would hate to see a CCIE with no work experience, but the last guy who
announced his passing the CCIE lab in this group a few weeks ago, not only
had no experience in the real world with routers or Cisco stuff, he claimed
that he got his CCNA to CCIE in 9 months!!!
I was shocked, and unless he'
LOL.
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what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work experience.
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Man that's an insult. A CCIE with no experience. I guess I will go back
to building race cars.
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what would be the av
Am I not the only one that is insulted by this question??
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Man that's an insult. A CCIE with no experience. I guess I will go back
to building race cars.
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what would b
Is there such a thing? The only reason I was able to pass the test was
lots of work experience.
Dave
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> what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work experience.
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I would say $50-60K. I am currently studying for the CCIE written and I
have no "on the job" experience. The only experience I have is in the
classroom, but I passed my tests on the first try. I would expect someone
to hire a CCIE with no experience, but at a reduced salary compared to
others w
things the wrong
way If people dont wake up, then all of this is for nothing...
I would not be happy spending a couple thousand dollars to get a 3rd grade
diploma
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I agree! There is no substitute for experience!
Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom
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Am I not the only one that is insulted by this question??
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> what would
And so sounds the death knell for good salaries for CCIE's with actual work
experience... oy...
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> I would say $50-60K. I am currently stu
IIRC, two or three years ago there was a young boy on the list (14-16??)
who had already received his CCNP and was heading for the CCIE. If
he succeeded, he probably got it without any work experience, but never
heard. If you believe the premise of the TV show "The Pretender" there
are those amo
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And so sounds the death knell for good salaries for CCIE's with actual work
experience... oy...
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Am I not the only one that is insulted by this question??
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They are one and the same when dealing with $.
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To: "Scott M. Trieste"
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> I did not mean no experience I said no WORK experience
&
rry for my soap box, just really feel people take these things the wrong
> way If people dont wake up, then all of this is for nothing...
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> I would not be happy spending a couple thousand dollars to get a 3rd grade
> diploma
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If people dont wake up, then all of this is for nothing...
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>I would not be happy spending a couple thousand dollars to get a 3rd grade
>diploma
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just wondering what I should expect out there, I just turrend 21 so
I
still pritty young yet but I have gotten all of these certs plus an
MCDBA
and A+ in less then a year.
Joe Carr
A+, MCDBA, CCNA, CCDA, CCNP
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Am I not the only one that is insulted by this question??
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gosh to be quite honest, I could not imagine a CCIE without any
experience... Has this happened? Are these people still around?
I'd like to hear from anyone that has accomplished CCIE with NO practical
experience... I'd like to know how they are doing and what advances they
have seen.
-Patric
ertifications
will be
> no better than a 3rd grade diploma!
>
> sorry for my soap box, just really feel people take these things the
wrong
> way If people dont wake up, then all of this is for nothing...
>
> I would not be happy spending a couple thousand dollars to get a 3rd
gra
how about doing what, for whom, where, and not to mention, most importantly
who?
or is the general consensus that the value an employee delivers to an
employer is directly proportional to the highest level of vendor specific
certification achieved?
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I agree with everything sa
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> what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work experience.
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themselves out of business... too much too fast...
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> To go through those certs that quickly is very impressive! If you pass
> the lab, I
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> I agree with everything said so far...what needs to change is the way
> Microsoft, and now Cisco and most training providers and study guide
> publishers advertise the IT industry as a way of making th
t;
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> I agree with everything said so far...what needs to change is the way
> Microsoft, and now Cisco and most training providers and study guide
> publishers advertise the IT industry as a way of makin
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I agree that the IT industry is being way overmarketed. I hear an ad
running almost every morning for a training comp
No kidding... those ads are a "truth in advertising" suit waiting to
happen.
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I agree that the IT industr
a paper bag
> >
> > If people dont try to really learn the systems, all certifications will
be
> > no better than a 3rd grade diploma!
> >
> > sorry for my soap box, just really feel people take these things the
wrong
>
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> They run themselves out of business... too much too fast...
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> > To go through those certs that quick
t wrong.
Regards,
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Is there such
"D CCIE with no experience"
I highly doubt that ladies and gents, The whole p
He should be getting ready for retirement so that the youngs ones should
take over.
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> Change the original posters question to include:
>
> How abo
se of us attempting the lab and for those that have already
achieved
> there numbers we know we cannot do it without hands on and a good
> troubleshooting base.
> Good Luck
>
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Marshal,
I totally agree, I dont think it's impossible for a candidate to pass
without real-world hands-on experience. IMHO the program is actually quite
a bit harder now, than it was a couple years ago.
rise to the top.
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I have to jump in here. The original post said he had an impressive lab.
If he uses the lab and
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Marshal,
I totally agree, I dont think it's impossible for a candidate to pass
without real-world hands-on experience. IMHO the program
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After receiving an email from Joe, I would agree that he sounds like a very
intelligent person with tremendous initiative. I'd like to differentiate
between lab
s the lab and works through scenarios, isn't this what the
> rest of
> you are calling experience. He doesn't get paid to do it, but he
> probably
> would end up with more experience than some of the people that we all
> work
> with collecting a pay check.
>
> IMHO
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I did not mean to say without touching production network.
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If I may ask, why exactly is it a good
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