Rtc,
I bought my first computer a little over three years ago and I passed my
CCIE written this week. I am 45. Try networking a little bit. If it
arouses the same fascination in you that it does in most of the subscribers
to this list, then your mind will grow sharper and more powerful the fur
Yep, you're to old better just pack it in!
lol
Of course I'm a 40ish single Mom and X-Homemaker who just recently
passed the CCNA who some days hangs off the rafters in a rock climbing
Harness running CAT 5.
Sure it takes more work then when we were younger but think about it
this way.
In a year
Well, I'm 27...but most of the people I work with have *children* my age,
so...no, I don't think age is a problem at all. Besides, have you seen the
new Craft-matic adjustable equipment racks they have now? ;-)
BJ
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From: rtc
To: Cisco ; CISCO GROUPSTUDY ; CISCO GRO
No you're not too old, life begins at 40. So study, practise,
..study, practise but don't give up!
Cheers!
""rtc"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I'm 40--am I getting too old for this stuff? Cant remember anything worth
a
> damn,
>
LOL!
I am 36, and have the same problem, thank Cisco that they put a ? in the
IOS.
Don't worry about it, most of the people I work (worked) with in the network
business are between 20-60 with the majority being in their 40's.
They say that memory is the first thing to go, I just wish would have
Don't know the average age - but I'm in my mid-forties and have gained both
CCNP and CCDP status in the last 3 months. Not only that - I'm also female,
and I totally changed my job to Network engineering less than 3 years ago.
There's no barrier when it comes to age - just the determination to s
; Sent: February 23, 2001 10:14 PM
> To: rtc; Cisco; CISCO GROUPSTUDY
> Subject: RE: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
>
>
> Rtc,
>
> I bought my first computer a little over three years ago and I passed my
> CCIE written this week. I am 45. Try networking a little b
Hi All,
Especially the 'old buggers' (Aussie for those over 30 or 40 or so). I started
University at 40 years of age. I really wanted it and got there no worries.
At 51 I passed the CCNP I wanted it. I am now looking at CCIE but not sure if I
really want it and am stuggling.
Last year I
- Original Message -
From: Tony van Ree
>At 51 I passed the CCNP I wanted it. I am now looking at CCIE but >not
sure if I really want it and am stuggling.
Well, let's put it this way...are you able to write your own salary already?
If you are, then don't worry about the CCIE. ;-) I ca
rtc: I passed my ccie when I was 20 years your senior. Age isn't an
excuse.
Fred.
rtc wrote:
>
> I'm 40--am I getting too old for this stuff? Cant remember anything worth a
> damn,
> especially the commands nd command syntax
>
> _
> FAQ, list archives, and su
stewveThat`s
>From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "rtc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "CISCO
GROUPSTUDY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: what is the a
This discussion made me feel real good, I was having a lot of problems trying to
remember all the stuff for the tests, specially those items I can't practice on.
Now I realize 47 is not to old when you are not alone in the journey towards CCIE.
rtc wrote:
> I'm 40--am I getting too old for this
Not quite sure how I fit into this model. I'm 52, but I was about 18
when I first touched a computer, and 19 or 20 when I first did
something that was recognizable as network-related (terminal-based
timesharing).
By 1970, I was doing early distributed computing (medical lab
instrument comput
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From: John Hardman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 9:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
LOL!
I
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> From: John Hardman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 9:30 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
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>
> LOL!
>
> I am 36, and have the same problem, thank C
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> From: John Hardman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 9:30 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in
; Mel L. Chandler, A+, Network+, MCNE, MCP+I, MCSE,
> CCNA
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> [mailto:
Well, I guess this puts me in the "old geezer" category. I got my Bachelor degree
when I
was 40, my Masters at 45 and my CCNA at 55. I'm just now starting on the CCNP and
hope to
achieve CCIE status by 65 (Would this make me the oldest to finally get a CCIE?), just
in
time to retire from teac
, 2001 10:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
Not quite sure how I fit into this model. I'm 52, but I was about 18
when I first touched a computer, and 19 or 20 when I first did
something that was recognizable as network-related (terminal-
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Dale Frohman wrote:
> If they think you are young, they will probably think I am still a baby
> being only 19. I have my CCNA, 1/4 CCNP and actively seeking MCSE 2k. I
> also have an AA degree and also seeking my bachelor degree in computer
> science. I plan on getting my
or
A+ / Network + / I-Net+ / MCP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Robert Padjen
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 1:17 PM
To: Dale Frohman; Mel Chandler PMI
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
enough... Oh
>> well, maybe after I have a PhD and CCIE I'll get someone to listen to me.
>>
>> Mel L. Chandler, A+, Network+, MCNE, MCP+I, MCSE, CCNA
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Network Analyst
>> Information Services
>> PMI Delta Dental
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2/26/2001 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
If they think you are young, they will probably think I am still a baby
being only 19. I have my CCNA, 1/4 CCNP and actively seeking MCSE 2k.
I
also have an AA degree and also seeking my bachelor degree in computer
scien
So, you might be able to answer this question that I got on a PRAXIS exam
to allow me to teach "data processing" at the high-school level in Oregon.
Which of the following pairs of methods is used to locate and retrieve data
and/or program instructions that have been stored on external storage
>So, you might be able to answer this question that I got on a PRAXIS exam
>to allow me to teach "data processing" at the high-school level in Oregon.
>
>Which of the following pairs of methods is used to locate and retrieve data
>and/or program instructions that have been stored on external stora
01 10:56 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
>
>
>Not quite sure how I fit into this model. I'm 52, but I was about 18
>when I first touched a computer, and 19 or 20 when I first did
>something that was recognizab
The only right answer was B. I was sure it was C. I remember when indexed
access methods were considered state-of-the-art. Oh well, I think I will be
able to pass the test. (This was just a practice test.) Thanks for your
help! &;-)
Priscilla
At 04:39 PM 2/26/01, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
>
I'm fifty-two.
The memory does become more of a challenge. The quick uptake takes a hit.
The twenty-hour days take days of recuperation.
But the knowledge chase is still very satisfying. It comes in a more
relaxed and in-perspective kind of way. I enjoy mastery of the thing, and,
looked at in
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Robert Padjen
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 1:17 PM
> To: Dale Frohman; Mel Chandler PMI
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
&
Jess:
Not to worry, I contacted AARP and was assured we can get a "senior discount" on
blueberries and no-doze so we can compete with these young whipper-snappers! :)
Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot
You contacted the AppleTalk Address Resolution Protocol? Did you get a MAC
address back? &;-) Or perhaps you were doing this to guarantee that your
own network-layer address is unique. (AARP has that additional purpose that
IP ARP doesn't have.)
Priscilla
At 05:26 PM 2/26/01, Tom Lisa wrote:
More power to you!!! I admire your drive to stay
ahead.
Chris
--- Tom Lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I guess this puts me in the "old geezer"
> category. I got my Bachelor degree when I
> was 40, my Masters at 45 and my CCNA at 55. I'm
> just now starting on the CCNP and hope to
> ach
imer
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
You contacted the AppleTalk Address Resolution Protocol? Did you get a MAC
address back? &;-) Or perhaps you were doing this to guarantee that your
own network-layer a
dler PMI'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
I find myself in much of the same situation Dale is in. At 20, I am busting
with energy most of the time. I know how to fix the problems and I have the
desire to, but I often get the "you&
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:43:23 -
>
>I agree with that point. I work in a company and i always find them
saying i
>am not experienced enough. I
age-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Denis A. Baldwin
> Sent: 26 February 2001 18:32
> To: 'Robert Padjen'; 'Dale Frohman'; 'Mel Chandler PMI'
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: what is the average age of people
: 27 February 2001 13:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
Some shoe polish to age up and down the scale may help.
If you are perceived as too young, apply some white shoe polish around your
temples, and then complain about the youth of today, and
Greg,
As self-appointed President and senior member (pun intended) of the Groupstudy OGC (Old
Geezers Club) I insist that you complete your CCIE without any undue delay (medical
excuses will not be accepted). I still have visions of being the oldest to finally
obtain a CCIE.
If you wish to join
YPK = Young Punk Kids???
Z
>
>If you wish to join the OGC, I will be happy to appoint you in-house
>counsel. Then we
>can sue the hell out of any YPK's that get in our way! :) Remember, even
>if we're
>clueless, when OGC members talk, people listen.
>
>Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
>Commu
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> Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
> If you wish to join the OGC, I will be happy to appoint you
> in-house counsel. Then we
> can sue the hell out of any YPK's that get in our way! :)
> Remember, even if we're
> clueless, whe
Andy,
I'm in a situation that is similar to Dale's, and I disagree with some of
your comments. I'm 19 years old and currently working as a Jr. Network
Engineer. I have A+, Net+, CCNA, CCDA, and 3/4 tests for the CCNP. I also
plan to take the CCIE written in 13 days. :)
> > If they think you ar
And I used to sing along when the Who performed "Young Man Blues"!!!
Z
>From: "Christopher Kolp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Christopher Kolp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: what is the average age of
You got it!
President Tom Lisa,
Groupstudy OGC
(Now accepting membership applications; under 50 need not apply!)
Mask Of Zorro wrote:
> YPK = Young Punk Kids???
>
> Z
>
> >
> >If you wish to join the OGC, I will be happy to appoint you in-house
> >counsel. Then we
> >can sue the hell out of an
]>
>Reply-To: Tom Lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:51:46 -0800
>
>Greg,
>
>As self-appointed President and senior member (pun intended) of the
>Groupstudy OG
f Of
> > Tom Lisa
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:52 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
>
> > If you wish to join the OGC, I will be happy to appoint you
> > in-house counsel. Then we
> > ca
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:12:03 -0600
>
>Sounds like The Godfather or some mafia control thing starting her
there is one thing to say to all those that cry i am too old, i am too
young, i am ..
my experience is:
if you are good, everybody else will tell you.
else if you are doing your own advertising, you are not there yet ;-)
p.
...been young, ...been old and still doing my own advertising ;-)
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Fred Danson wrote:
> Andy,
> I'm in a situation that is similar to Dale's, and I disagree with some of
> your comments. I'm 19 years old and currently working as a Jr. Network
> Engineer. I have A+, Net+, CCNA, CCDA, and 3/4 tests for the CCNP. I also
> plan to take the CC
Kolp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 12:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
Young Punk Kid here...
Coming to take your job soon. :)
Thats right, grampa :) It's a kids world.
ck
> -Original Message--
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
> If you wish to join the OGC, I will be happy to appoint you
> in-house counsel. Then we
> can sue the hell out of any YPK's that get in our way! :)
> Remember, even if we're
>
mber the future, the way things ought to be...
- Neil Peart, poet
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From: nobody
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
there is one thing to say to all those that cry i am too
e-
From: Bradley J. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 3:11 PM
To: cisco
Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
I won't say how old I am, but I will say this:
Young enough not to care too much about the way things used to be
I&#x
I vote we change the Youths from YPK to PFY. In case you dont follow the
Bastard Operator From Hell series (BOFH) this stands for Pimply Faced Youth.
:-)
Experience and open mindedness are more important than age.
-- Kevin
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> > Andy,
> > I'm in a situation that is similar to Dale's, and I disagree with some
>of
> > your comments. I'm 19 years old and currently working as a Jr. Network
> > Engineer. I have A+, Net+, CCNA, CCDA, and 3/4 tests for the CCNP. I
>also
> > plan to take the CCIE written in 13 days. :)
>
>A
I'm old enough to know better, but still too young to care.
- Original Message -
From: "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in
Wow Fred, that youthful antagonism really belies the immaturity of someone
your age. :-)
Does anyone else get a humorous picture of a playground fight about to start?
I just love this list. :-)
Craig
At 05:31 PM 2/27/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > > Andy,
> > > I'm in a situation that is similar t
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Tom Lisa
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:52 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
>
> > If you wish to join the OGC, I will be
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Craig Columbus wrote:
> Wow Fred, that youthful antagonism really belies the immaturity of someone
> your age. :-)
> Does anyone else get a humorous picture of a playground fight about to start?
> I just love this list. :-)
Unfortunately I'm just old enough to be too old (a
adjen'; 'Dale Frohman'; 'Mel Chandler PMI'
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
>
>
>I find myself in much of the same situation Dale is in. At 20, I am busting
>with energy most of the time. I know how to
>Jess:
>
>Not to worry, I contacted AARP and was assured we can get a "senior
>discount" on
>blueberries and no-doze so we can compete with these young
>whipper-snappers! :)
>
>Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
>Community College of Southern Nevada
>Cisco Regional Networking Academy
You contac
Howard,
For the benefit of those not aware, (i.e. YPK's) I meant the American Association of
Retired Persons (member apps available here: http://www.aarp.org/ ). Priscilla also
made aware of the "other" AARP. Personally, I've always thought that apples were only
good for eating or giving to you
Tom, I think that you shouldn't wait to do CCIE, because probably when you reach 65,
CCIE will
no longer be there.
Not many years ago I was preparing to certify on OS/2 (3.0), at that time I already
had been
working for 6 years with it. When I thought I was ready, the test was on Warp and
inclu
bject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
> Sounds like The Godfather or some mafia control thing starting here ;)
Get
> off my territory! haha
>
> Allen
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Ruben,
It's not a matter of waiting, but how long it will take me to learn/understand/retain
all the
information necessary to successfully complete the CCIE exam/lab. It is also more
difficult when
you are afflicted with half-heimers! :)
Besides, I don't think the CCIE is going away anytime so
You left out Col. Saunders! hahahahah
More important what is the average age of someone asking the question in the
first place??
"Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Jess:
> >
> >Not to worry, I contacted AARP and was assured we can get a "senior
> >discount" on
> >blueberries
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