Re: why?

2000-10-22 Thread Pradeep Kumar
If you word the subject properly, it makes life easy.( for > 1 people ) Couldnt " Hyperterm Problem" be a better subject for this than a " why" Why not ! -Original Message- From:cslx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:47:42 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

RE: why?

2000-10-23 Thread Pete
Have your checked your timeouts? Email me if you need help. Sincerely, Peter Kurdziel CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, MCP+I http://www.inotez.com Cisco Q&A http://www.inotez.com/discus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of cslx Sent: Sunday, October 22, 200

Re: why?

2000-10-23 Thread Sam LI
yup, check the console line line con 0 exec-timeout 0 0 Sam LI - Original Message - From: Pete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'cslx' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 8:09 AM Subject: RE: why? > Have your checked your

Re: why?

2000-10-23 Thread Veronica Tebbe
At 04:47 PM 10/22/2000 +0800, cslx wrote: I am assuming you are using a terminal server here?  Try having this in your config for your terminal server: line con 0  exec-timeout 0 0 line 1 8  no exec  transport input all V. I use the line to connect with the console of 2501 and the serial of t

RE: why tokenring?

2000-10-13 Thread Trevor Corness, CCNA
If anything, it has a lot to do with the fact that SNA is VERY time-critical.. it doesn't care how FAST a link is, but rather that it recieves its packets in a relatively predictable time period.. it doesn't like it to take 15ms for the first packet.. 33ms for the second.. 12ms for the third.. and

Re: Re: Why?

2000-10-22 Thread NeoLink2000
Original message from: "Pradeep Kumar"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >If you word the subject properly, it makes life easy.( >for > 1 people ) >Couldnt " Hyperterm Problem" be a better subject for >this than a " why" >Why not ! Couldn't you have just answered the guys question? It makes life easy f

Re: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-08 Thread Peter Van Oene
Outside of anything more "best practice design" specific which others are and I'm sure will cover, I would look at your 100 meg downlinks (connections from edge switches to aggregation switches back to 5500 in increasing order of importance) Specifically, check to ensure that your duplexes on

Re: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-08 Thread Kevin Wigle
all 5 of these "edge" switches connect to another switch of the same model with a 100Mbit multi-mode (1300 nanometer) fiber uplink which connects to a Cisco Catalyst 5500 for our routing needs. hmmm... "connects to a Cisco Catalyst 5500 for our routing needs." How is the 5500 doing routing?

RE: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-09 Thread Sebastien Venturoso
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why not supernetting? Outside of anything more "best practice design" specific which others are and I'm sure will cover, I would look at your 100 meg downlinks (connections from edge switches to aggregation switches back to 5500 in increasing order of importance

Re: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-09 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr
Your problem seems to be insufficient hardware. Supernetting five subnets and putting 500 stations on one segement will cripple your network. Duck - Original Message - From: jeongwoo park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Groupstudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:13 PM Subj

RE: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-09 Thread Chuck Larrieu
On Behalf Of Donald B Johnson Jr Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 9:00 AM To: jeongwoo park; Groupstudy Subject: Re: Why not supernetting? Your problem seems to be insufficient hardware. Supernetting five subnets and putting 500 stations on one segement will cripple your

RE: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-09 Thread Quadri, Habeeb
but machines are predictible. Habeeb > -Original Message- > From: Chuck Larrieu [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:47 AM > To: Donald B Johnson Jr; jeongwoo park; Groupstudy > Subject: RE: Why not supernetting? > > Just to be arg

Re: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-09 Thread jeongwoo park
Yes we are using RSM for routing need. And I am not sure if we are using vlan because cat5500, and DHCP is out of my control. How can I verify if we are using vlan? It seems to me that we are using vlan because more than one subnet sits on the same physical edge switch, witch I am sure if it is co

Re: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-11 Thread Brian W.
I couldn't agree more, a multiport switch connected to the router, then another switch for each area of worksations is the way I would go. Bri On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Donald B Johnson Jr wrote: > Your problem seems to be insufficient hardware. > Supernetting five subnets and puttin

Re: Why not supernetting?

2000-11-11 Thread Peter A van Oene
You guys must be integrators! She has a 5500 already, which although somewhat dated, should be able to provide enough horsepower to route to 600 users in 5 or 6 subnets surely. I highly expect her issue is not lack of hardware related. I expect there is a misconfiguration or faulty cabling a

RE: why saw different load?

2001-02-07 Thread Mustafa Kemal Furat
The command bandwidth does not set the bandwidth of the serial port to the value you assign ... it is used by the router to calculate routing metrics for some routing protocols, If you want to change the bandwidth of the port u shold better use "clock rate" command... Gugana -Original Mess

Re: why saw different load?

2001-02-07 Thread Georg Naggies
Mustafa Kemal Furat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag B190548C7CC1D41182500048541277A41EAF2E@INET">news:B190548C7CC1D41182500048541277A41EAF2E@INET... > > The command bandwidth does not set the bandwidth of the serial port to the > value you assign ... it is used by the router to calcu

RE: why NAT breaks VPN?

2001-03-18 Thread Urooj's Hi-speed Internet
Folks, A very good explanation ( by Lisa Phifer, Core Competence ) of where NAT and IPSec are in harmony and where they are not can be found at : http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/759/ipj_3-4/ipj_3-4_nat.html Happy reading. Aziz S. Islam _ FAQ, list archives, a

Re: Why so many buffers ?

2000-12-13 Thread Leonard Ong
Hello, >1. Is there any advantage/disadvantage of having many buffers compared to >having one or two only. Usually Data packets come in different sizes, therefor it's efficient to categorize these sizes into predetermined one. For example if you dont have categories of buffers, and only have o

Re: Why so many buffers ?

2000-12-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
If you can believe the CIT class, the small, middle, big, very big, large, and huge buffers are used for process switching. These are the buffers that you track with the "show buffers" command. These buffers are in system memory and they generally get used if you have disabled fast switching an

RE: Why so many buffers ?

2000-12-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
>Thanks. > > -Original Message- >From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:28 AM >To: CCIE TB; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:Re: Why so many buffers ? > >If you can believe the CIT class, the small, midd

Re: Why people prefer ccbootcamp.com??

2000-09-21 Thread michael
You can buy the book CCIE ALL IN ONE LAB STUDY GUIDE,it's very useful. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ,

RE: Why people prefer ccbootcamp.com??

2000-09-21 Thread Eitland Brett Contr USAFE IN/SAIC
Does anyone know of a website that provide lab scenarios free of charge (except FatKid.com) for those individuals that already have all the lab equipment needed? FatKid is an excellent resource, but I would like to find other sites that may offer scenarios which they do not yet provide Thanks,

RE: Why people prefer ccbootcamp.com??

2000-09-21 Thread Louie Belt
: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject: RE: Why people prefer ccbootcamp.com?? Does anyone know of a website that provide lab scenarios free of charge (except FatKid.com) for those individuals that already have all the lab equipment needed? FatKid is an excellent resource, but I would like to find other

RE: Why people prefer ccbootcamp.com??

2000-09-21 Thread Dale Holmes
land Brett Contr USAFE IN/SAIC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Eitland Brett Contr USAFE IN/SAIC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Why people prefer ccbootcamp.com?? >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:58:33 +0200 &g

Re: why SFM? [7:42877]

2002-04-30 Thread Michael L. Williams
The SMF is basically a 256Gbps switching fabric. The 6000 family has a 32Gbps bus communications system built into it. There are 3 types of cards for the 6000 series. Non-fabric enabled, fabric-enabled, and fabric-only. The non-fabric enabled can only use the 32Gbps bus (to talk to the Sup/MSFC

Re: why SFM? [7:42877]

2002-04-30 Thread Kris Keen
Can we determine if we have SFM cards? We have 2 x 6509's with Sup1A and MSFC2/PFC. We have dual 16GBIC line cards (32 in total) and we are using ALL of them. If we have the 32gbps backplane, and our 32 sockets maxed out (this isnt including the 4 x 48port ethernet line cards we have) then we wou

Re: why SFM? [7:42877]

2002-05-01 Thread Larry Letterman
not necessarily, a lot of the processing for port to port is done on the line cards.. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Kris Keen" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: Re: why SFM? [7:42877] > Can we determine i

Re: why SFM? [7:42877]

2002-05-01 Thread Michael L. Williams
> Larry Letterman > Cisco Systems > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Original Message - > From: "Kris Keen" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:42 PM > Subject: Re: why SFM? [7:42877] > > > > Can we determine if we have SFM cards? > > > > We have

Re: why SFM? [7:42877]

2002-05-01 Thread MADMAN
Do you mean a Fabric enabled line cards of the SFM itself??? dave Kris Keen wrote: > > Can we determine if we have SFM cards? > > We have 2 x 6509's with Sup1A and MSFC2/PFC. We have dual 16GBIC line cards > (32 in total) and we are using ALL of them. If we have the 32gbps backplane, > and o

Re: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-30 Thread fartcatcher
Thank you for the information. I am stuggling with the use/purpose of VLANs and you've answered some questions for me. In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Neiberger) wrote: >A VLAN is, by definition, a separate subnet. If you decided to separate a >single LAN into two VLANs

RE: Why are my posts so distorted ???

2001-02-11 Thread Pierre-Alex
I got your e-mail fine! Just a thought: Are you using some type of mail encryption? Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why are my posts so disto

Re: why the flash mem doesn't increase

2001-01-13 Thread Frank
do i have to erase the flash totally to upgrade the ios ,then copy the vcw-vfc-mz.c549.mc.7.23.bin back? "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 93re40$ffa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:93re40$ffa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I want to upgrade the ios ,and i want to keep the > vcw-vfc-mz.c549.mc.7.23.b

Re: why the flash mem doesn't increase

2001-01-14 Thread Adam Quiggle
Frank, After you delete it don't forget to squeeze it. When you delete it you are only marking it for deletion. Squeezing flash actually gets rid of the file. HTH, AQ At 11:49 PM 1/13/01, Frank wrote: >do i have to erase the flash totally to upgrade the ios ,then copy the >vcw-vfc-mz.c549.mc.

Re: why the flash mem doesn't increase

2001-01-14 Thread Gerald Jones
Frank, Depending on the device you are using you may or may not need to delete the entire flash to recover the space. If the device you are using is an AS5300 as the IOS images indicate, it uses a "Class B" file system and, according to Cisco documentation, you will need to erase the flash to re

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-16 Thread Patrick Kirk
If I understand your question correctlyhere's a response A router operates at Layer 3 while all the switching you are discussing = is happening at Layer 2. In order for a switch to forward packets to any = VLAN it would have to also re-write the packet so that he destination = workstatio

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-16 Thread Curtis Call
Keep in mind that seperate VLANs will be seperate subnets. Which means that by default a host will encapsulate any IP packet destined for a different VLAN within an ethernet packet with a destination MAC address of the default gateway. So a layer 2 switch will never get the chance to try and

Re: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-16 Thread John Neiberger
A VLAN is, by definition, a separate subnet. If you decided to separate a single LAN into two VLANs, you'll have to change your addressing scheme. Once you've done that, you have to route to get from one subnet to the other. I don't even like the term "VLAN". The very term seems to cause a lot

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-16 Thread Ole Drews Jensen
NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Curtis Call [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-16 Thread Bob Vance
ger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:48 PM To: Bob Vance; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: why is routing needed with VLANs A VLAN is, by definition, a separate subnet. If you decided to separate a single LAN into two VLANs, you'll have to change your addressing sc

Re: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-16 Thread John Neiberger
A VLAN is, by definition, a separate subnet. If you decided to separate a single LAN into two VLANs, you'll have to change your addressing scheme. Once you've done that, you have to route to get from one subnet to the other. I don't even like the term "VLAN". The very term seems to cause a lot

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-16 Thread Ole Drews Jensen
ww.oledrews.com/ccnp NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Bob Vance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:58 AM To: CISCO_GroupStudy List (E-mail) Subject: RE: w

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-16 Thread John Neiberger
> > > -Original Message- > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:48 PM > To: Bob Vance; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: why is routing needed with VLANs > > > A VLAN is, by definition, a separate s

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-16 Thread Brian Hartsfield
At 12:28 PM 1/16/2001 -0600, Ole Drews Jensen wrote: >Now, with all devices at that office connecting to a cheap hub, wouldn't >this work okay, or would the best thing be to statically NAT 214.100.200.70 >to a dedicated address on the 192.168.20.0 network which then is assigned >the printer? You

Re: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-16 Thread J Roysdon
R Enterprises, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp > > NEED A JOB ??? > http://www.oledrews.com/job > ~~~~~~~~ > > > > -Original Message- > From: Bob Vance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-16 Thread J Roysdon
Inside users would use the inside IP for the printer. -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ Cisco resources: http://r2cisco.artoo.net/ "Brian Hartsfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-16 Thread Curtis Call
Comments Inline At 11:43 AM 1/16/01 -0600, you wrote: >Hmm, I think I know what the question is, however I don't really have an >answer right now if I'm right. > >Picture two different scenarios: > ><<1>> > >Workstation A, B and C are connected to a switch that IS NOT running VLAN, >hence they ar

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-17 Thread Ole Drews Jensen
ECTED] Subject: RE: why is routing needed with VLANs Comments Inline At 11:43 AM 1/16/01 -0600, you wrote: >Hmm, I think I know what the question is, however I don't really have an >answer right now if I'm right. > >Picture two different scenarios: > ><<1>>

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-17 Thread Peter Van Oene
Just for clarity, VLAN's are a layer 2 concept and IP is of course a layer 3 (please do not start with the "but what layer is arp again" :) Despite subnets and VLAN's generally happening on a 1:1 basis in a lot of theoretical and practical discussions, the two concepts are totally unrelated a

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-17 Thread Bob Vance
th, GA 30097-1511 = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Van Oene Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why is routing needed with VLANs Just fo

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-17 Thread Peter Van Oene
> > > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Peter Van Oene >Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:26 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: why is routing needed

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-17 Thread Bob Vance
 11455 Lakefield Dr. Fax 770-623-3429   Duluth, GA 30097-1511 = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Van Oene Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-18 Thread Ruben Arias
VLANs can be defined by MAC address or IP address. When MAC address is used, you have a layer 2 VLAN, when IP address is used you have a layer 3 VLAN and a router is needed. Layer 2 VLANs mostly used for filtering (never done, I supose is a hard work to mantain) Peter Van Oene wrote: > Just f

Re: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-18 Thread Peter Van Oene
To me, there is no concept of a layer three VLAN. If you chose to route IP, you need a router, whether you have dynamic or statically configured broadcast scopes is fully irrelevant. If you are talking about dynamic VLAN membership based on IP address (or protocol for that matter), then I wil

Re: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-18 Thread Lowell Sharrah
are we talking about the difference between collision domains and broadcast domains? >>> "Peter Van Oene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/18/01 09:07AM >>> To me, there is no concept of a layer three VLAN. If you chose to route IP, you need a router, whether you have dynamic or statically configured bro

Re: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-18 Thread Peter Van Oene
Actually not. Collision domains have a layer 1 scope (assuming CSMA/CD media), and broadcast domains a layer 2 scope. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/18/2001 at 9:39 AM Lowell Sharrah wrote: >are we talking about the difference between collision domains and broadcast domains?

RE: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-18 Thread Jennifer Cribbs
nuary 18, 2001 8:08 AM To: Ruben Arias; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: why is routing needed with VLANs To me, there is no concept of a layer three VLAN. If you chose to route IP, you need a router, whether you have dynamic or statically configured broadcast scopes is fully irrele

Re: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-18 Thread Jennifer Cribbs
First of all, if I send this twice, excuse me...I am trying out outlook express and I am not sure it is sending anything...but I have a couple of questions and comments. Questions: So the only reason vlans are implemented then is for a "type of subnet" that controls broadcasts from a layer 2

Re: why is routing needed with VLANs

2001-01-19 Thread Ruben Arias
Sorry, I was trying to make a puzzle with the words, instead I did a lot of noise in the line, looks like I have to improve my language! Peter Van Oene wrote: > To me, there is no concept of a layer three VLAN. If you chose to route IP, you >need a router, whether you have dynamic or statica

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-18 Thread liu
for support more application. "CCIE TB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi group members > > In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need the other > four. The same thing applies to DB-25 and other types of cables. We don't >

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-18 Thread Tim Ross
Where I work, we have many Terminals in use (Memorex/Telex). When the cables for these were punchced down (Years ago), they decided to save money by using 25 pair Cat5 and only punching down one pair for each terminal. Now we are ready to upgrade to IP-based terminals (MTX 1683) and PCs in some ar

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-18 Thread Natasha
I was wondering that myself. Here are the top 10 possibilities, tung and cheek of course. 10) Copper mines are owned by Cisco! 9) It's a union thing, here's 20 bucks please don't ask again! 8) 4 more wires are there in case we forget the IEEE chapter of the networking manual, whoops! 7) For colo

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-19 Thread Joe Pollere
Some technologies do use all 8 wires. IE Gig E over copper uses all 4 pair. At 10:36 PM 9/18/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hi group members > >In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need the >other four. The same thing applies to DB-25 and other types of cables. We >don't use a

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-19 Thread ¡Shawn.!
100 Base T uses 2 pair (CAT 5) 100 Base T4 uses 4 pair (CAT 3 - 4) "CCIE TB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi group members > > In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need the other > four. The same thing applies to DB-2

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>Hi group members > >In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need >the other four. The same thing applies to DB-25 and other types of >cables. We don't use all of the wires. Why? > >Regards to all > For the RJ45 connector used with ISDN, the intention of the standards bodi

RE: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-19 Thread Ray Mosely
I have pulled Cat 5 cable, some 20 to 30 1000' spools, in the last 2 years (about 5 miles of cable). One time, on a run of about 500', I had a break in one of the wires required for Ethernet. Instead of pulling the wire over again, I changed the color coding at each end and had a working cable.

RE: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-19 Thread hmalmgren
, September 19, 2000 9:43 AM To: CCIE TB; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Why 8 wires in RJ-45? I have pulled Cat 5 cable, some 20 to 30 1000' spools, in the last 2 years (about 5 miles of cable). One time, on a run of about 500', I had a break in one of the wires required for Ethernet. Instead

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-20 Thread John Nemeth
On Feb 8, 5:12pm, "CCIE TB" wrote: } } In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need the other } four. The same thing applies to DB-25 and other types of cables. We don't } use all of the wires. Why? Because the standard actually comes from the telephony industry, whe

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-20 Thread Frank Jimenez
Additionally, the new IP Phones from Cisco can utilize the 'extra' pairs to power the telephones. Frank Jimenez, CCIE #5738 Systems Engineer Cisco Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-21 Thread David L. Blair
Future Needs. You are right that 10BaseT and 100BaseT do not use more than 4 wires, but 100VGLAN and 100Base4 do. Those specifications used the extra wires to transmit data at a slower speed. When you add up the additional data lines multiple, 4, by the slower speed, 25Mb, you get 100Mb transm

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-21 Thread Natasha
> Subject: Why 8 wires in RJ-45? > > > Hi group members > > > > In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need the > other > > four. The same thing applies to DB-25 and other types of cables. We don't > > use all of the wires. Why? > > > > Regards to all > > > > I was wondering

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-22 Thread Gabriel
""¡Shawn.!"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8q7lvt$16d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q7lvt$16d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > 100 Base T uses 2 pair (CAT 5) Technically "100baseTX", no? I thought "100baseT" was a generic term referring to either TX or T4. I'd also really like to know what the official

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-22 Thread Gabriel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > HP 100VG was a short lived 100 mbps networking technology that used all > eight wires. This enabled it to even run over category 3 cable as long as > none of the wires was being used for phone services. Ah, 100V

RE: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-22 Thread Guyler, Rik [EESUS]
Title: RE: Why 8 wires in RJ-45? This is not quite true.  You need to stipulate the caveat that 10BaseT and 100BaseT Ethernet in *half-duplex* do not use all 4 pair.  Full-duplex communication *does* require the additional pairs. Rik -Original Message- From: David L. Blair [mailto

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-25 Thread Ajaz Nawaz
David 100BaseT4 uses a standard RJ-45 connector with the same pinout as the 10BaseT specification, plus two bidirectional pairs (transmit on 1 and 2, receive on 3 and 6; bidirectional on 4 and 5; bidirectional on 7 and 8). Ajaz ""David L. Blair"" <> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[

RE: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread McCallum, Robert
It was a compromise. Data people wanted no less than 128bytes and Voice people wanted no more than 32 bytes. SO a compromise was reached. -Original Message- From: Andy Xing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 October 2000 08:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

Re: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread Frank Kim
You must be refering to ATM. The reason it's 53 bytes in a cell because the first 5 bytes are used for cell-header information; the other 48 bytes contain the payload, which is data. Cheers, Frank Kim, MCSE, CCNA Comegetus Technologies Phone: 858-831-0296 Fax: 858-831-0687 Email: [EMAIL PROT

Re: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread Nick Tucker
>You must be refering to ATM. The reason it's 53 bytes in a cell because >the first 5 bytes are used for cell-header information; the other 48 bytes >contain the payload, which is data. I think his question was directed as to why those specific mechanics, rather than the mechanics themselves. A

Re: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread themitmo
Because back when they were creating an ATM standard from stratch it had to be some number. I believe there were two factions (US vs. European) on what size the payload area should be. 48 bytes turned out to be the compromise between speed and size. --- Andy Xing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Than

RE: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread William E Gragido
Because when they said so thats why >;-(' > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Andy Xing > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Why 53-bytes for a cell? > > > Thanks > > > _

Re: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread Joe Wong
It is due to political reason. Politic again. One party want 64 byte for the payload. Another party want 32 byte for the payload. They can't settle so they choose the middle. (32+64)/2 = 48 byte. "Frank Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ? [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > You must be refer

Re: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread Jose Luis De Abreu
I read in one of the books I have used there were not an specific reason to define exactly a 53 Bytes cell in ATM, it was really an agreement between the two leaders developing ATM architecture (USA and Europe)where one defined a cell smaller than 50 bytes (sorry, but I do not remember the exact s

Re: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread Randy Carlson
This is my understanding as well. This was a pure political decision that led to a pretty horrible technical result. The systems we work with like powers of 2. They woek ok with other composites. They DO NOT like primes. 53 is a prime number and this must cause no end of headaches to someone in

Re: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread Dale Holmes
Ask the French... >From: "Andy Xing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Andy Xing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Why 53-bytes for a cell? >Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:58:33 +0800 > >Thanks > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http

RE: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread Nguyen_Trang
Compromised between Europe and US. As I recalled from ATM/UNI forum, Europe wanted 64 US wanted 32, they compromised at 48 (in between) + 5 for control. > -Original Message- > From: Andy Xing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread Brian Lodwick
I read a few of the entries to answer your question and I disagree with them so far. I have read that in fact there were 2 committees involved with the established cell size, and it was in fact a compromise. I wished I had my book Computer Networks (which is a wonderful book) cause then I would

Re: why i could not dial in ?

2000-11-21 Thread Frank
after i ran the command "deb asy s" Async interface state changes debugging is on i tried again ,got such info ,hope it helps you to find the problem . thanks. 01:22:50: As65 PPP: Async Protocol Mode started for 172.20.112.11 01:22:50: As65 AAA/ACCT: Using PPP accounting list "" 01:22:52: %LINK-

Re: why i could not dial in ?

2000-11-21 Thread Frank
i have solved the problem ,nothing is wrong ,i just changed the pwd "cisco" to another one ,then Ok,i dont' know why . thanks a lot. "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8vdvsn$lem$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8vdvsn$lem$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > when i dialed a 3640 router ,i got the following e

Re: Why use GRE Tunnels [7:6155]

2001-05-28 Thread EA Louie
1. Transport non-IP routable protocols over an IP backbone (Appletalk, IPX, DECnet) 2. Transport encrypted IP VPNs so they pass routing protocol 3. Reduce the diameter of an IP network by eliminating routing hops over the tunnel created -e- - Original Message - From: "Rashid Lohiya"

Re: Why use GRE Tunnels [7:6155]

2001-05-28 Thread Neal Rauhauser
I have this configuration in production: branch office lan cisco 2611 Cisco 7206 running BGP Cisco 2611 branch office lan I have a /24 from one of my three BGP peers which is used for most everything in my network and there is a sloppy deploy of RFC1918 private addresses on two branch

Re: Why use GRE Tunnels [7:6155]

2001-05-28 Thread Peter I. Slow
GO TO SLEEP NEAL! - Original Message - From: "Neal Rauhauser" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: Re: Why use GRE Tunnels [7:6155] > I have this configuration in production: > > > branch office lan cisco 2611 Cisco 7206 running BGP Cisco 261

Re: Why use GRE Tunnels [7:6155]

2001-05-29 Thread Keith Short
I've used a GRE tunnel to get multicast traffic through a PIX. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=6279&t=6155 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct

Re: Why use GRE Tunnels [7:6155]

2001-05-29 Thread Rashid Lohiya
Well thanx for your input guys I have just successfully labbed my first GRE tunnel at home, but couldn't find anything useful or exciting to do with it. thanx, (especially to Neal), Now I have lots of ideas to be getting on with. Regards, Rashid "Rashid Lohiya" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTE

RE: Why use GRE Tunnels [7:6155]

2001-05-29 Thread Chuck Larrieu
Set up an OSPF virtual link across it ;-> Chuck (A joking reference to a recent thread.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rashid Lohiya Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 3:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why use

Re: Why use wildcard mask [7:30473]

2001-12-30 Thread Godswill HO
I think is all originated from the principles of: 1 = Do not Cares (Matches everything and anything) 0 = Cares ( Matches only identical corresponding digit) Maybe it is a hang-on from the old binary digit stuff. Man you have no choice than to do the inverse, else your access-list would not work,

Re: Why use wildcard mask [7:30473]

2001-12-30 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
I asked one of the IOS developers about it, and he pointed out that access lists were developed before subnetting. The wildcard mask is the natural way hardware does matching. When subnets were defined, their documentation specified subnet masks. With 20/20 hindsight, it might have been a goo

Re: Why use wildcard mask [7:30473]

2001-12-30 Thread Marc Russell
Yes, it does make simple tasks a little more complicated. However, using inverse masking can make complex tasks much easier. Take this issue. Say you are asked to filter access to all odd 192.168.x.0 /24 routes. Your method. 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.5.0 255.2

Re: Why use wildcard mask [7:30473]

2001-12-30 Thread Chuck Larrieu
prior to IOS 12.x, the wild card mask method alowed quite a bit of flexibility. Suppose you had all of your serers on a particular subnet, but you wanted a different subset of those servers to be accessible from different subnets. It used to be that you could specify something like access-list 10

Re: Why use wildcard mask [7:30473]

2001-12-30 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>Yes, it does make simple tasks a little more complicated. However, using >inverse masking can make complex tasks much easier. > >Take this issue. Say you are asked to filter access to all odd 192.168.x.0 >/24 routes. > > >Your method. > >192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 >192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 >192.1

Re: Why use wildcard mask [7:30473]

2001-12-30 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>With the advent of IOS 12.x wildcard bits must be contiguous from the right, >so you lose this kind of power. Also takes the fun out of the network >a.b.c.d x.x.x.x area command in OSPF! I hadn't noticed that. If so, it would not surprise me at all if Cisco is planning, long-term, to have one k

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