Someone just asked me ISDN simulators, and told me that the price of the one
they were thinking of buying, an Emutel, had dropped 500 dollars.
I have a Teltone ISDN Demonstrator, and I like it fine, but I would look
into the Emutel if its price has fallen so much. You don't need NT1s for
the
Hi,
I just bidded one from NLI in ebay. If you are no hurry I will let you
know if it is worth or not in next week. As I expect I will get it on this
weekend or next monday. I hope
so...
Regards,
Fanglo
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Juan Blanco wrote:
Team,
I am in the process of purchasing an ISDN
I've been happy with my $1095 unit from www.CheapISDN.com
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arca technologies are offering special discount pricing on
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I've been happy with my $1095 unit from www.CheapISDN.com
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2 issues off the top of my head...
1)The physically one router creating one full network (2 points) will
not work- it's called IP address overlap and you'll see the errors when
you begin to configure this.
I have seen this many times within my own goofing-ups.
2)I'm almost positive your 4500
Phil,
It depends what type of ISDN simulator he has if he will need an NT1 or not.
If the simulator has S/T interfaces on it already, then he will NOT need an
external NT1 for his router.
thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
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JB,
No, I think getting an ISDN simulator is more effecient. You can always use
your isdn simulator for 6 months than turn around and resell it. I guess it
really boils down to how much money you can afford to spend and how much
time you will need the ISDN lines for. If you only need the isdn
you need to look everywhere on the internet. I
found a teltone isl-2000 at a used test vendor for a very good price a while
back.
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 00:04:46 -0400
Stephen,
You could try and find
It's already been said that getting the lines run is usually too expensive.
I know from experience. In my area it was $200/mo to install. $80 for 2 B
channels. That's just 1 ptp link. you would need to buy another ISDN line to
get 4 B channels, and be able to use multilink ppp connections.
Brad,
Do you think that getting to ISDN lines is more efficient
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Stephen,
You could try and find a used Simline2, or you could purchase a couple of
ISDN lines and have them installed in your home. Probably cost you
Stephen,
You could try and find a used Simline2, or you could purchase a couple of
ISDN lines and have them installed in your home. Probably cost you $60/mo
or so for two lines, or you could go with one line for $30 or so and break
out the B channels (although you wont be able to do multilink
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Rik Guyler
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM
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Shameless plug? Absolutely! No shame in how Brad does business. :-}
Maybe he does have a financial intere
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Brad Ellis
Sent: 01 February 2002 18:48
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Duncan,
Hi! Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation. Rik has
just been one of many happy customers of ours
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Rik Guyler
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM
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Shameless plug? Absolutely! No shame in how Brad does business. :-}
Maybe he does have a financial intere
: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM
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Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
Shameless plug? Absolutely! No shame in how Brad does business. :-}
Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares? I have learned over
the years to listen to him...he is usually right. His
and best wishes
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Rik Guyler
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Shameless plug? Absolutely! No shame in how Brad does business. :-}
Ronald,
If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the
simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc.
Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home lab.
I believe he posted about it somewhere. Check the archives:
Hi,
there is also a lot of simulator stuff at:
http://www.teltone.com/telecom_solutions/test_tools/test_home.html
Regards,
Georg
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Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his
recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation is
not without bias. Here's some of your options. I'll leave out his as he
already made a shameless plug.
ISDN emulator on the NET
the job just fine.
I have no financial interest here. I'm just a very satisfied customer
standing up for my preferred vendor!
Rik
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: 25 November 2001 21:57
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ISDN emulator on the NET
http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf
www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf
www.diem.com/BT90001.htm
http://www.tele-products.com/
http
ISDN emulator on the NET
http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf
www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf
www.diem.com/BT90001.htm
http://www.tele-products.com/
http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html
http://www.conway-engineering.com/ 5105307682
If I ever have some extra voice cards laying around, I need to try this :)
Ken- the 2500s are S/T interfaces which means you need a NT1 between them
and the ISDN line. The 1600, 2600 etc with WICs can come either flavor, U or
S/T. The U interface has the NT1 built in. If the simulator does ST,
Kenneth,
Hi! That is a Simline2 you are referring to. It's a great ISDN simulator
and most certainly the CHEAPEST way to emulate an ISDN switch for a CCIE
lab. We've sold quite a few of them and I can recommend them very highly.
We used to sell the Emutel Solo which is also an excellent
If I ever have some extra voice cards laying around, I need to try this :)
Ken- the 2500s are S/T interfaces which means you need a NT1 between them
and the ISDN line. The 1600, 2600 etc with WICs can come either flavor, U or
S/T. The U interface has the NT1 built in. If the simulator does ST,
Add the Adtran Atlas boxes.
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Kenneth,
Hi! That is a Simline2 you are referring to. It's
I would suggest when you are ready for the ISDN, to rent a rack with the
simulator rather then try to bluff your way through it using a sim program.
That way you can try all kinds of configs, not just what the sim has.
My rack has a 2 port S/T simulator. The newer ones can use either a U or S/T
Mike,
I saw this in ebay. Are you talking about this kind of simulator?
Any choice suggested? How do i know the C2500 routers are of S/T ports?
Please advice
2 Port BRI ISDN Simulator
Simulator Specification
ISDN Simulator with 2 BRI S/T ports.
ETSI Software (Cisco ISDN switch-type
Do you have a 2600 series, Check this out, A very talented friend of mine
discovered this.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=john+paul+morrisonhl=enrnum=8selm=0ZEk7.131740%24B37.2967002%40news1.rdc1.bc.home.com
You can also reach him @ http://www.bogomips.com
Mark Paterson
Sr.Provisioner
GT
I recommend the Teltone demonstrator for the a lab setup. Thats the one I
use. I got it for 1685.00
Raul
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From: Tariq Azad
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:17 AM
Subject: ISDN Simulator [7:8132]
Hello Group !
Which ISDN simulator is an affordable and cheap
I dont think there is any such thing as an affordable ISDN simulator but i
got the Emutel Solo and it works like a champ. It has configurable S/T or U
interfaces and supports all kinds of switch types. It is comparable to the
Teltone ILS 2000 ($2800) and the price direct from Arca technologies is
Tariq,
I have ISDN simulators for sale at #1000.00+Ship+VAT.
2B+D, perfect for your routers to connect to S/T RJ45 Presentation.
If you are in the UK, you can come over and try them before you buy.
Rashid Lohiya
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020 8509 2990
07785 362626
www.pioneer-computers.com
Tariq
Hey guys,
I found out my problem. I am using a Demonstrator, even though the person
who sold it to me told me that it was a Teltone-2000. To compound the
problem, one of my straight through cables only has pins 1, 2, 3, and 6. I'm
glad I had a few NT1s sitting around.
Thanks for the help,
My ILS 1000 comes with both U and S/T interfaces... Only prob is I need
additional "optional" s/w to simulates Custom ATT, etc.. any has the s/w ,
can tell me what's the diff...
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Fred,
My
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My ILS 1000 comes with both U and S/T interfaces... Only prob is I need
additional "optional" s/w to simulates Custom ATT, etc.. any has the s/w
,
can tell me what's the diff...
""N
Fred,
My first question would be which model did you get? The ILS 2000
comes with support for both U and ST BRI interfaces, whereas the
Demonstrator only supports the U interface. What does this mean...?
You'll need two NT1's in order to make your connection if this is the case.
HTH
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Hello,
I am looking to purchase an ISDN Simulator.
Perhaps one from someone's personal lab, etc.
Thanks, Dwayne
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Hi everyone,
I am trying to rig up a complete Cisco 4500 from a bunch of spares.
I did not have any flash and used the flash from a defunct 4000. I
get the following message
System Bootstrap, Version 5.2(7) [rchiao 7], RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1994 by cisco Systems, Inc.
C4500
What you have here is a contradiction in terms. There are no cheap
simulators. Black Box sells a simulator that I know nothing about, but they
do offer 20% for you first purchase. This brings the price down around $1700
I think.
If you check the archives, there is mention of a company in Dallas
, 2001 2:16 PM
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What you have here is a contradiction in terms. There are no cheap
simulators. Black Box sells a simulator that I know nothing about, but they
do offer 20% for you first purchase. This brings the price down around $1700
rental fees to
another CCIE candidate :-) ...You eat $1400.00.
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Subject: Re: ISDN Simulator
Bell Atlantic- $149 for the installation, $49
Check out the following URL or search the lists archive. The topic comes up
every week or so and has been discussed recently:
http://www.google.com/search?q=isdn+simulatorbtnG=Google+Search
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FYI.. seems good but not cheap
http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html
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Hi,
Here is a sample config.
Under the interface - you need the actual dialing number in the dialer map.
-Brian
rp-2503A#wr t
Building configuration...
Current configuration:
!
version 11.1
service udp-small-servers
service tcp-small-servers
!
hostname rp-2503A
!
enable secret 5
I have a question here? should you have an administrative distance defined
on your static route?
ip route 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255 BRI0 ??? 200
ip route 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255 BRI0 X.X.X.X 200
The X.X.X.X is the next hop IP Address and the 200 is your administrative
distance.
: ISDN Simulator
I have a question here? should you have an administrative distance defined
on your static route?
ip route 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255 BRI0 ??? 200
ip route 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255 BRI0 X.X.X.X 200
The X.X.X.X is the next hop IP Address and the 200 is your administrative
Cthulu wrote:
Hi,all,
Ok, the best price is still Big D in Dallas. I asked them about the bulk
purchase, and whether X number of people combining their monies to make a
bulk purchase would receive an additional discount. He laughed, I laughed
too, and then he said no. Basically, at
From our very own groupstudy site:
http://www.groupstudy.com/links/autolink/generator.php?cat=products
Thanks, Paul B.!!!
Charles
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Cthulu wrote:
Hi,all,
Ok, the best price is still Big
FYI.. seems good but not cheap
http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html
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As I recall, that guy failed his first lab attempt...
You WILL need ISDN. Get a simulator. This is not so much an expense issue as
it is a finance issue because you will be able to resell it for all that you
paid for it...
Don't fool yourself, and don't take shortcuts...
Z
From: "Fowler,
me. I hardly ever sell stuff off that get's into my lab!!
Kevin
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Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: ISDN Simulator - A Cheaper way
As I recall, that
Hi Charles,
I agree with Andy...check into the monthly rate of ISDN in your area, that
may be the best
way to go.
A few months ago, another engineer and I bought a ISDN simulator from ARCA
Technologies. We decided upon ARCA mainly due to the fact that they have a
2 port BRI
simulator with
.. about $1995 plus shipping.
I that for a single user $1995 is a bit too high. But if the company is
paying then i guess its okay.
Sam
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Rant over.
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Brian Howard
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:46 AM
To: Cthulu
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Subject: Re: ISDN Simulator
Hi Charles,
I agree with Andy...check into the monthly rate of ISDN in your area
Cisco has one for $150.00 , it's their CIM CD it's really good, almost real=20
and it has much more QA to.
=A0www.cisco.com/go/cim =A0or =A0www.ciscopress.com/cim they have 6 CD's and=
one of=20
them is the ISDN one. You can buy these CD's from any online book store.
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Cisco has one for $150.00 , it's their CIM CD it's really good, almost
real
and it has much more QA to.
www.cisco.com/go/cim or www.ciscopress.com/cim they have 6 CD's and one
of
them is the ISDN
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Subject: RE: ISDN Simulator
Thanks.
The lan switching was rated very poorly on Amazon's site.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN
Depending upon your location maybe you could order a couple of ISDN
lines. Where I'm at, for residental, they are $40 flat rate monthly. You
could have them installed for nearly two years before they approached the
cost of the simulator.
andy
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Cthulu wrote:
Hi, all
I
hi
I also would like to buy one.
I am from India.
in india we do prefer ISDN net3 switch.
can i know from where you r buying this product
tanx
ravee
"Gordon Olson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am going to purchase an ISDN Simulator and they want to know what switch
type that I want,
It really doesn't matter which one you choose. NI1 is a standard that will
run on ATT's 5ESS and Northern's DMS switch types. If it were me, I'd get
the NI1 standard, but there's not a heckuva lot of different in the configs
of the two types.
- Don
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From: Gordon Olson
I am aware of three manufacturers;
Teltone makes two models. Check out their web site. They are sold through
distribution such as Anixter, Graybar, Specialized Tools, etc.
http://www.teltone.com/telecom_solutions/test_tools/test_isdn-demo_features.
html
I have the Adtran 550 and it works awesomeexpensive, but works awesome.
my setup have 2 PRI connections and 4 BRI connections.
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Hi group,
Is the less expensive Teltone ISDN Demonstrator good enough for CCNP lab
practice or the more expensive model ILS-2000 is required ?
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I'm using the teltone ISDN demonstrator for CCNP and it work just fine.
Other's at my office are also using it for CCIE prep.
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Importance
where ??
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