Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 574 HW (was: Scope note/range clarification - E80, P112)

esponding example to P112 for non-man-made things. Could we assign a new issue number to this? All the best, Thanasis On 05/12/2021 19:44, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, Actually the class was also designed for cutting parts from archaeological objects, natural history stuff etc

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 580: CRMsoc redefinition of scope

;Issue 580: CRMsoc redefinition of scope" for presentation at the next SIG. All the best, Francesco ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 580: CRMsoc redefinition of scope

rlier, in person at a live, even if digital, meeting. Best Francesco Le 02.02.22 à 20:11, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig a écrit : Dear Francesco, I find this text very well written and clear. My only question is, why: " For facts which are established by convention as opposed to pure spati

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 580: CRMsoc redefinition of scope

d position. Finally, if using conceptual "standards" from particular disciplinary schools, even from a whole discipline, is intended, I'd expect serious considerations about the cultural bias this introduces. All the best, Martin On Thu., Feb. 3, 2022, 11:52 p.m. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] Considerations about : Issue 580: CRMsoc redefinition of scope

ymogih.org/index.html> au format XML Cours Outils numériques pour les sciences historiques <http://phn-wiki.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/doku.php?id=intro_histoire_numerique:accueil> Dépôt GitHub avec documentation des cours et travaux d’étudiant-e-s <https://github.com/Sciences-historiques-nu

[Crm-sig] Issue 581

Dear All, Here my elaboration of Issue 581 which could not be discussed yesterday. If this cannot be discussed in this (52nd) meeting, it will go out for e-vote. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 581

Sorry, here the link! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tij-ihwA64DsSV_S8JZQ3ISUI_7Vuq6la4BD7fhmTmE/edit# On 2/9/2022 9:31 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, Here my elaboration of Issue 581 which could not be discussed yesterday. If this cannot be discussed in this (52nd

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote to close Issue 409: CRMarcheo generalization of the properties AP12 confines and AP11 has physical relation

n VETO is the e-vote should be canceled. Best, Christian-Emil ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Hono

[Crm-sig] CALL FOR E-VOTE ISSUE 581

. This is what users adhering to the standard have to do. It “should” be consistently used throughout the document. -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute

Re: [Crm-sig] CALL FOR E-VOTE ISSUE 581

nd that having an extension, such as CRMsoc, providing additional classes to deal with individual intentional and social life, and dealing with mental and social facts as empirically observable, intentional (collective) facts as we propose, could only be an advantage. This email therefore relates t

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 504

producing international recommendation. If Sealit is in the practical scope of, e.g., CRMsoc, and its research questions, at some point in time, Sealit must be be integrated by practice test. All the best, Martin On 3/1/2022 2:44 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear Francesco, May I

Re: [Crm-sig] CALL FOR E-VOTE ISSUE 581

e historical record is imperfect. It is in this case not for the historian to change his practice but for the ontologist to provide a structure which relates to the kind of reality that the expert tries to describe. As in observation in the sense of physics, the observer can be wrong. Best, G

Re: [Crm-sig] CALL FOR E-VOTE ISSUE 581

nsion, such as CRMsoc, providing additional classes to deal with individual intentional and social life, and dealing with mental and social facts as empirically observable, intentional (collective) facts as we propose, could only be an advantage. This

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517

ij7R8MueZLEGjB5a4RM6dolG-K/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=102982314589061437159&rtpof=true&sd=true> Best, Christian-Emil ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- --

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote: LRMoo class F27 and property R16

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Re: [Crm-sig] E-vote for scope note part of issue 294 (CRMarchaeo)

deposition history. A stronger claim can be made using AP30 restricted to while a weaker claim would use AP29 appears in. ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote: LRMoo R26

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Re: [Crm-sig] More .1 Questions CRMArchaeo

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Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Common Policy / Method for Implementing the .1 Properties of Base and Extensions in RDF

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Re: [Crm-sig] E-vote: LRMoo, deprecation of R10 has member

ia University / Université Concordia 1455 de Maisonneuve West, LB-331 Montréal, Québec H3G 1M8 Canada pat.r...@concordia.ca ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ------

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Common Policy / Method for Implementing the .1 Properties of Base and Extensions in RDF

and "P02_has_range" don't have a scope note at all. I agree. Descriptions are needed within the RDF file, as well as a clear example on how one can use them when creating or querying a dataset. Best regards, Pavlos 1. It is also difficult to easily find all the

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote: LRMoo, F56 Externalization Event

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[Crm-sig] New Issue: semantically Replacing Recording Event and Externalization Event

s the memory. Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 10

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote: LRMoo, F29 Recording Event and its properties

othécaire en chef par intérim Concordia University / Université Concordia 1455 de Maisonneuve West, LB-331 Montréal, Québec H3G 1M8 Canada pat.r...@concordia.ca ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/list

[Crm-sig] Issue 583 elaboration

Dear All, For discussing Issue 583, see my thoughts (at the end of) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dv_CAHmV1_5wCOjExmuTOOeuLBAL947G/edit#heading=h.tvb5ixxmk336 Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for

[Crm-sig] Homework Issue 536, issue 583, issue 388 issue 587,

colleagues have prepared some presentation, which could then be included in the resolution of issue 587. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer

Re: [Crm-sig] Homework Issue 536, issue 583, issue 388 issue 587,

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[Crm-sig] Issue 585 Embedding

to be designed for these exceptional cases only, but for every position determination of a find within a layer. I hope this helps better understanding the examples. Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultu

[Crm-sig] Issue 570 Homework

. Please comment on possible highlighting with colours, as I have done, separately from comments on the stereotype wording and syntax. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems

[Crm-sig] Homework, Issue556

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Re: [Crm-sig] Homework, Issue556

or a slight deviation from it. I prefer the latter, if we can adopt a well-established vocabulary. Would you create a Google doc for this😁? Best, Martin All the best, Thanasis On 10/07/2022 09:36, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, Attached a proposal how to develop a recommended

Re: [Crm-sig] Homework, Issue556

ity / Université Concordia 1455 de Maisonneuve West, LB-331 Montréal, Québec H3G 1M8 Canada pat.r...@concordia.ca -------- *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* July 11, 2022 10:44 AM *To:* crm-sig@ics.for

Re: [Crm-sig] New issues: Make SIG meetings more sustainable

YlRfc4hsslo%3D&reserved=0> -- Rob Sanderson Director for Cultural Heritage Metadata Yale University ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ----

[Crm-sig] Issue 583 distances

deed measured, requires a sort of simultaneity, except for carrying a clock from one event to another, which again may be a form of simultaneity. All the best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Info

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 600 HW

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[Crm-sig] Issue 594, generalized recording

Dear All, Here my proposal: In the 53rd CIDOC CRM & 46th FRBRoo SIG meeting, the Sig discussed MD’s proposal to introduce a property *F28 Expression Creation. Rnn included memory of: E7 Activity* to replace R20 recorded. E-mail exchange: Martin Doerr: /“Rnn was remembered in (is me

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: revise approval status of extensions

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Re: [Crm-sig] .1 properties on sub properties of properties with .1

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[Crm-sig] New Issue following ISSUE 597 define irreflexive and asymmetric

An example of a reflexive property is E53 Place. P89 falls within (contains): E53 Place. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Rese

Re: [Crm-sig] ΙSSUE: scope note of E13 Attribute Assignment

nd E17 can be applied to any E1 CMR Entity. Why is there a subproperty P41 "classified (was classified by)" of P140 "assigned attribute to (was attributed by)" for E17 Type Assignment, but no subproperty of P140 for E15 Identifier Assignment? Best, Wolfgang ___

[Crm-sig] P62 depicts example

Dear All, Here  a nice example for P62 depicts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tusculum_portrait There seem to be enough realistic features on it, rare for these times. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for

Re: [Crm-sig] Deducing the current custody / ownership / location

; Wolfgang > > > ___ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > _______ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http:/

Re: [Crm-sig] Are there "weak inverse" shortcuts?

"), but I assume it is indeed ⇒ and not ⇔. Best, Wolfgang ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P7(x,y) ∧ P89(y,z) ⇒ P7(x,z) still regarded as true?

ist Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Cente

[Crm-sig] Issue 498 HW

Japan"; -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,

[Crm-sig] About Spacetime Volumes

, /Integrated and interactive 4D system for archaeological stratigraphy /Archaeological and Anthropological Sciences (2022) 14:203 https://doi.org/10.1007/s12520-022-01667-3 I think we should use it as example. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P7(x,y) ∧ P89(y,z) ⇒ P7(x,z) still regarded as true?

= F121(x,y) ⇔ P89(z,x) ∧ P89(z,y) ∧ (∀w) [E53(w) ∧ P89(w,x) ∧ P89(w,y) ⇒ P89(w,z)] I am not even sure if one needs a formal definition like this. Defining the intersection z is comparable to defining the place y in P161(x,y) as the result of a spatial projection, as it is done in the sco

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P7(x,y) ∧ P89(y,z) ⇒ P7(x,z) still regarded as true?

"overlap of": z = F121(x,y) ⇒ E53(z) ∧ E53(x) ∧ E53(y) ∧ E121(x,y) z = F121(x,y) ⇔ P89(z,x) ∧ P89(z,y) ∧ (∀w) [E53(w) ∧ P89(w,x) ∧ P89(w,y) ⇒ P89(w,z)] I am not even sure if one needs a formal definition like this. Defining the intersection z is comparable to defining the place y in

Re: [Crm-sig] E9 Move and its relationship with the origin/destination

sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P7(x,y) ∧ P89(y,z) ⇒ P7(x,z) still regarded as true?

Romanum has an empty intersection with the Theatrum Pompeii, on the Mars Field. Obviously inconconsistent. Consequently, Curia Iulia must be wrong. This can be done with F. Best, Wolfgang Am 23.10.2022 um 21:24 schrieb Martin Doerr via Crm-sig : Dear Wolfgang, I would like to add that your ar

Re: [Crm-sig] Comparing measurements / dimensions Issue 407

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Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Delete Unnecessary / Incorrect Classes of CRMdig

better as a middle level domain ontology for its area of scope. Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all contributed over time to this review or properties alongside myself as proposer. Any mistakes being mine. With that as background here are the proposed deletions: *D21 P

Re: [Crm-sig] issue 613 Re: Are there "weak inverse" shortcuts?

.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/li

Re: [Crm-sig] E9 Move and its relationship with the origin/destination

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Re: [Crm-sig] P7(x,y) and knowing

,y) ∧ z = F161(x) ⇒ P89(z,y) with implicit (∀z) P7(x,y) ⇒ P89(F161(x), y) We haven't introduced function symbols yet. From the remaining versions I chose the one with P161 on the left-hand side because then I don't need to write down the implicit "for all" and can pr

Re: [Crm-sig] P7(x,y) and knowing

ion, statement, axiom, formula. Here I have called them axioms, and any P7(x,y) for instances x and y of P53 Place a statement.) Best, Wolfgang ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig _

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Delete Unnecessary / Incorrect Properties of CRMdig

scope. Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all contributed over time to this review or properties alongside myself as proposer. Any mistakes being mine. With that as background here are the proposed deletions: *Delete:* L4 has preferred label: inconsistent with

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Delete Unnecessary / Incorrect Classes of CRMdig

correctly removing all these classes will serve to a) make the model lighter but just as semantically powerful, b) accord with CRM SIG general modelling principles and c) serve better as a middle level domain ontology for its area of scope. Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science - FORTH Visiting Lecturer Department of Management Science & Technology Hellenic Mediterranean University Web: http://users.ics.forth.gr/~fafalios/ Email: fafal...@ics.forth.gr Address: N. Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, 70013 Heraklion, Gre

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

;bears feature" etc. I prefer also a discussion to add more custom classes to the RDFS, such as "Active Destruction", rather that inceasing CRMbase. Best, Martin On 11/8/2022 9:20 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, I just want to remind that we have a principle expl

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

genetic descendence. Is that difference relevant? Or do we distinguish a name being commonly known as in some language from being formed in that language (such as "Köln")? Best Martin On 11/8/2022 9:37 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, Apologies, I missed some messag

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Delete E35 Title

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Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

everything that is museum related out of CRM Base? At least I might have my long loved E84 Information Carrier back there... :D No offense intended - just my two cents and the perspective of the GNM Nürnberg on the current CRM development... Best, Mark -- ---

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

ower through its scope note as applying only to "works", and "can be clearly identified as titles due to their form". I don't think anyone would say that "Douglas Adams" is the "title" of the person. Rob -- ---

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

pport/transcribe?type=HB&target=Y%3Ahwos%5Eu%5E%22a%5E>/ would be Hebrew, but Yeshua <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua> English? This is a question for the knowledge base. The English speaker writing this article thinks that "Josua" applies to these people. It is up

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

pple" is in English with the precise semantics of P72, or that it is not a Name for that Place? Rob On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 1:31 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear Gordon, "The Library of Congress has only recently stopped assigning gender to the referant of a na

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

are. And also to stick, as far as I can understand, to the modelling principles reminded by Martin. And it would also finally solve the issues still open, to my knowledge, concerning the original FRBR-oo class. Best Francesco Le 09.11.22 à 20:13, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig a

[Crm-sig] Issue 294 Missing!

Dear All, am I correct that Issue 294, " * AP29 appears in * AP30 restricted to * AP31 typical for was never entered into the CRMarcheo text?😅 Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Inform

[Crm-sig] Issue 533 HW, polysemic concepts

Dear All, See Achille's and my homework for Issue 533, to be added to the modelling principles as real life example from CRM SIG discussions. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JhXMH3z8FW55XcyQcQ-XNud1jctTQ-naOf6VJuNC70Y/edit?pli=1 -- Dr. Martin

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 586,557 business model and name

al objects, in particular suspect items. Expert opinions, if possible, from the British Museum about illicit trafficking. All partners on this mailing list are kindly invited to look for other data that could be used. Best wishes, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Do

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 609 Homework

actice will be to associate an observation with the negative property. So far my ideas. Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Sc

Re: [Crm-sig] Digging for a unknown issue, help needed

ilman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, GR70013

Re: [Crm-sig] Digging for a unknown issue, help needed

has modified (was modified by) I remember that we had a discussion about this, and may be a decision is hidden somewhere. Best, Christian-Emil *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* 25 November 202

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 616: shortcuts in P50 has current keeper, P52 has current owner, P55 has current location

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Re: [Crm-sig] issue 534Shortcuts, .1-properties and the long paths

gcuCnE <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kd-zCO8e00WoKWb-9VAm96ECDEA2O_1iFI6kpgcuCnE> Best, Christian-Emil ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -

Re: [Crm-sig] issue 534Shortcuts, .1-properties and the long paths

rs&stick=H4sIAONgFuLUz9U3MC1KKshT4tVP1zc0TM4uS8s2LrbUUspOttIvyywuTcyJTywqQWJmFpdYlecXZRcvYpXzKM3NzcxLT8osSlFIzEtRCEgsLs7Mz0vLyS9PLSoGAIh-wfhh&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZlaabgNb7AhVJs6QKHUxQCjEQtq8DegQIGRAH&biw=1637&bih=989&dpr=1.82#imgrc=h3dJnCUjqXZDvM On 11/30/2022 3:35 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear Christian-Emil, I agree with your precise analysis, except for: A)  I'd arg

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 613 Inverse shortcuts

)⇒ (∃z)[righthandside(x,y,z)]' are not ideal in a KB since the process to  find a possible z is time consuming or worse. For an efficiency point of view we should try to avoid these constructs. -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head

Re: [Crm-sig] issue 534Shortcuts, .1-properties and the long paths

nal FOL axiom would have to be added: P125(x,y,w) ⇔ (∃z) [E70(z) ∧ P16(x,z,w) ∧  P2(z,y)]" *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* 30 November 2022 14:35 *To:* crm-sig@ics.forth.gr *Subject

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 609 Homework

analysis Martin. I would argue that this is for issue 610 - I have included it in the working document for that issue to discuss. All the best, Thanasis On 22/11/2022 17:43, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, "In the 54th CIDOC CRM & 47th FRBR/LRMoo SIG Meeting, upon discus

Re: [Crm-sig] issue 534Shortcuts, .1-properties and the long paths

and we add P125(x,y,w) ⇐ (∃z) [E70(z) ∧ P16(x,z,w) ∧  P2(z,y)] I hope this is correct. Christian-Emil *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* 30 November 2022 16:11 *To:* crm-sig@ics.forth.gr

Re: [Crm-sig] Homework for Issue 624

rth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas

[Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

to the modelling principles reminded by Martin. And it would also finally solve the issues still open, to my knowledge, concerning the original FRBR-oo class. Best Francesco -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of th

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

there will be no abuse in the sense I, Francesco and LRM propose? Best, Martin So I believe that this does not solve the problem as stated - that E33_E41_Linguistic_Appellation does not have a description outside of the RDFS document. Rob On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 3:54 PM Martin Doerr via Cr

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

heers, George -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastir

Re: [Crm-sig] P133 spatiotemporally separated from

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Re: [Crm-sig] new ISSUE: O13 "triggers" scope note

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[Crm-sig] Seasons Greetings

Dear All, Best seasons greetings to all of you, and a Happy New Year, hopefully with more peace, more human respect and more awareness of the cultural values of all nations. I am hoping to see many of you in our next meetings. Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] E-vote for CRMsci 2.0

ked up please vote YES with a note for the correction. All the best, Thanasis ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary

Re: [Crm-sig] Property quantifications

://docs.google.com/document/d/11bue0Rakrekmcke-MkZqprfq0FXy5LkRMTl_VDynS5E/edit# Best, Wolfgang ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] New issue: property quantification mismatches

-vKigz5Lm3H69nrlbk2Xfe8gioun87COJmKFfXY/edit#gid=307539608 Best, Wolfgang ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of

Re: [Crm-sig] New e-vote for CRMsci: examples for position measurement

ples. Looking forward to concluding version 2.0. All the best, Thanasis and Athina ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] New CRMsci e-vote: label for S23

on of CRMsci. We are very nearly there. All the best, Thanasis ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Hono

Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group

___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation

Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group

a species surviving. I agree with Franco. Best, Martin On 3/9/2023 8:00 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, I think this is quite overstretching what an activity is. Of course we can make quick and dirty use of any class. I cannot imagine, how an "All Tango Performances" could

Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group

- *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Franco Niccolucci via Crm-sig *Sent:* 10 March 2023 07:48 *To:* Martin Doerr *Cc:* crm-sig@ics.forth.gr *Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group Thank you all for your comments and contributions. None of the solutions

Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group

types, or "appearing within" Groups. The sense of "appears in" does not make claims that cannot be related to evidence. Opinions? On 3/10/2023 9:47 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: I agree. I think there is still an open discussion how to document such things, but the r

[Crm-sig] Illustrating Presence, Issue 523

, but the content has not yet been published. These uses of Presence allow for collecting material from people around important social developments. I do not have access to such cases, and would need help to find them. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

[Crm-sig] Belief Adoption example, HW issue 510

].] See: https://www.britishmuseum.org/blog/who-was-nero, By Francesca Bologna, Nero Project Curator, Publication date: 22 April 2021. accessed 4/10/2023 -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laborator

Re: [Crm-sig] Belief Adoption example, HW issue 510

? Sincerely, Daria *От:* Crm-sig от имени Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Отправлено:* 11 апреля 2023 г. 15:32:32 *Кому:* crm-sig *Тема:* [Crm-sig] Belief Adoption example, HW issue 510 Dear All, Here my homework with a real belief  adoption.

[Crm-sig] Issue 625: O13 *triggers* scope note [HW reminder]

t al., 2008). The 1966 flood in Florence /triggered/ mould growth on books stored in flooded library rooms (Rubinstein, N., 1966) In First Order Logic: O13(x,y) ⇒E5(x) O13(x,y) ⇒E5(y) **Best, Martin* * -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary

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