Re: Esteemed Gentlemen!

On Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 11:01:45 +, Richard Bostrom wrote: > Esteemed Gentlemen! Dude. Seriously? I was milliseconds away from deleting this message as obvious spam, until I saw the second paragraph. This message you've written is a golden example of how NOT to choose a Subject: header,

Re: Debian 11 and IPv4 static IP address

On Fri, Jul 05, 2024 at 21:51:09 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > What I really need is a good book or document that explains the design and > implementation of networking with systemd and Network Manager on modern > Debian GNU/Linux systems. Recommendations? The main thing to understand is

Re: small font

On Fri, Jul 05, 2024 at 10:51:12 +0200, Richard wrote: > And who was talking about transport? The whole discussion was about > storage, and storing mail compressed is hardly a security issue. The discussion was originally about your messages containing directives to render all of your text in a

Re: small font

On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 16:19:44 +0200, Richard wrote: > If you ever want to be taken seriously, stop spreading such bogus nonsense. > Even base64 encoding wouldn't blow up the size that much. No idea what bs > mail you are talking about, but for me, both the plain text and html > version are said

Re: small font

On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 11:29:43 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Regrettably the list archives seem to have a preference for publishing > the HTML version of list mails. At least i see two different fonts in > an archived mail of Richard: >

Re: small font

On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 19:09:47 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > Unless there is a compelling reason to accept mixed format ( HTML ) I can't > see why the list can't filter submissions to text only - which is the list > policy anyway - and by doing so provide education to users about what the > list

Re: Creating PDF/A from LaTeX source and from existing PDF

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Re: Creating PDF/A from LaTeX source and from existing PDF

On Wed, Jul 03, 2024 at 23:02:16 +0200, Richard wrote: > > > > Please stop using such a dinky font. There are plenty of old farts trying > > to read this list. > > Tell that to your mail program. If it chooses to show you the mail that > way, don't blame me. Everything needed to display it any

Re: Random freezing on GNOME with AMDGPU

and whether the crashes have to do with nouveau or bad RAM or something else, I don't know. My "solution" was to stop using software (e.g. certain Web browsers) that seemed to have been running at the time of the crashes. Best regards, Greg Marks signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: sendmail and starttls failing

On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 09:34:39 +0100, Mark Fletcher wrote: > cron isn’t a mail sending tool — not the right place to police something > like this. Seems to me that sendmail is. There are two possible layers here. First, a cron job (typically a shell command, or a shell script) might invoke

Re: sendmail and starttls failing

On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 23:08:01 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > According to this > https://support.trustwave.com/kb/KnowledgebaseArticle10016.aspx > > bare CRs aren't allowed in emails but this has always worked. > > I'm only likely to have cron generating emails like this. > > Strange that this

Re: How to get an email notification every time a package is updated

On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 13:22:15 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 29 Jun 2024 at 22:46:00 (-0700), B wrote: > > It seems crazy that in all the history of Debian, nobody said "There's > > a package I care about and I want to get immediately when a new > > version is released." No, the crazy

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 12:32:15 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > got it thanks. > > > > > > > I don't know what you're trying to do, but ERE [0-7]{1,2} matches one- or two-digit *octal* numbers (e.g. 5, 07, 72, 77) but not numbers that contains the digits 8 or 9. Do you have a book whose

Re: How to get an email notification every time a package is updated upstream?

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 22:46:00 -0700, B wrote: > On 6/29/24 7:48 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > My next question: is this a package that's*installed* on your system? > > No. Not even the same arch or release as the installed system. I'll even go > further and tell you I want t

Re: How to get an email notification every time a package is updated upstream?

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 20:12:36 -0700, Will Mengarini wrote: > All we still need to know is whether the OP cares > about packages that aren't installed, or whether some > other aspect of Greg's solution isn't sufficient. If there's interest in new versions of uninstalled packages, then we have

Re: How to get an email notification every time a package is updated upstream?

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 19:15:55 -0700, B wrote: > My objective is to get an email notification when an update is available for > a specific Debian package. I already have questions. Your Subject header includes the word "upstream". This word appears *nowhere* else in the entire email, and it

Re: Curt having his fits [was: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs]

On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 00:57:07 +0200, Richard wrote: > That's how you warrant your ban, idiot. Let it go. Don't keep pouring more fuel on the fire. Add Curt to your killfile (or whatever your MUA calls your ban list). He's already been banned by the list admins anyway, so your local ban is

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 20:18:02 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > Oh, I see what the question was. > There is "use regular expressions", "use multi line matching" in Geany > I'm not very good at regular expressions. > I'd probably do it 3 times > "search for" > "search for" > "search for" There's

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 07:43:47 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > The option "g" means that said should do this multiple times if > it occurs in the same file (globally, like grep) instead of the > default behavior which is to find the first match and just > change that. The g option in sed's s command

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 21:23:03 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 20:53:50 + > Michael Kjörling wrote: > > > $ for v in $(seq 1 119); do sed -i 's, > id="V'$v'">,,g' ./*.html; done > > > > Be sure to have a copy in case something goes wrong; and diff(1) a few > > files

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 14:44:03 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 28 Jun 2024 at 14:54:42 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The *only* thing you know at boot time is what's in the HW clock, and > > if you're really lucky, you'll be able to figure out what time zone > &g

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

> > It's not like you can say "Oh, I was asleep for 7.5234 hours, so I need > > to adjust the HW clock time forward by X seconds because I know it runs > > a bit slow." That information is not available to you. > > It is if /etc/adjtime is set properly when you go to sleep. > See `hwclock(8)` or

Re: installation

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 19:20:54 +0200, dewey rahn wrote: > When I used to use Debian when a new release came out (like from 10 to 11) > you had to completely reinstall the operation system. Is that the case now? That has *never* been the case. Debian has always supported in-place upgrades

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 09:48:12 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Oh, indeed, thanks. I had computed it manually from > `journalctl | grep stepped` and it gave close enough results. > The question remains: how to make use of that info upon wakeup to adjust > the "initial" time before NTP takes

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:25:38 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > 12 Noon and 12 Midnight works. > > David Wright wrote: > > Except that The Wanderer's "strictly correct" version, M for noon, > > is out there in some pre-2008 documents. > > If you use M for noon you should use either AM

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 14:25:51 -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > So I have this digital clock up there in my panel, and in the virtual > machine here running Slackware I also have one. The one under Debian shows > 00:00 when it hits midnight, while the one under Slackware shows 12:00...

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 13:25:10 +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Here's another test: > > > > hobbit:~$ TZ=Australia/Eucla printf '%(%z %Z)T\n' -1 > > +0845 +0845 > > That seems like a bug. I'd have expected: > > +0845

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 18:35:00 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 23/6/24 00:02, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > In mutt, it would be: > > > > set date_format="!It's %a %d%b%Y at %H:%M:%S here, where clocks are > > UTC%z" > > I believe UTC%Z will giv

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 23:25:43 -0500, David Wright wrote: > creation of Pacific/Kiritimati (+14:00), which became a press > story at the start of the new millennium. > > $ TZ=Pacific/Kiritamati date; TZ=Australia/Eucla date > Sun Jun 23 04:24:54 Pacific 2024 > Sun Jun 23 13:09:54 +0845 2024 > $

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 09:52:39 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 21 Jun 2024 at 07:15:32 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > If I boot up two computers > > > and they display different times, what term is appropriate in your > > > opinion to describe the time d

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 09:51:32 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 22 Jun 2024 at 10:02:43 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > set date_format="!It's %a %d%b%Y at %H:%M:%S here, where clocks are > > UTC%z" > I think you need to set attribution, not date_

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 18:28:55 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > And doesn't this exchange show that > Sat 22Jun2024 at 18:27:55 +10:00 > > can be interpreted in two ways? I can only read it one way. What other way are you thinking of?

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 18:35:34 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 21/6/24 14:28, David Wright wrote: > > You could pronounce your time written above as: > > > >"It's Thu 20Jun2024 at 20:51:19 here, where clocks are UTC+10:00" > > Excellent. Now how do we get our MUA to do that when

Re: About dash as sh

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:43:52 -0700, Mike Castle wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:57 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > That's why I find it frustrating when someone claims that this bug is > > so severe that Debian has to *change their policy* without even describing > > how

Re: About dash as sh

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 13:44:35 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg Wooledge (12024-06-21): > > The original message began with the assertion that the OP had run > > across a bug in dash, and gave two URLs, with no description of the bug > > or the impact it was having on t

Re: About dash as sh

The original message began with the assertion that the OP had run across a bug in dash, and gave two URLs, with no description of the bug or the impact it was having on their life. I read one of the URLs, and the bug is rather obscure. It involves a second script embedded inside a here document

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 23:17:42 -0500, David Wright wrote: > And what am I to call the time that a system > issues using that system default time zone? If you mean the current time translated into that time zone, "local time" is the traditional name for it. If you mean an arbitrary past time,

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > "the system's > > time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", > > and others disagree  > > What term is appropriate in your opinion do describe the setting

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

> > > Assuming that's not a typo, please try: > > > > > > --private-window > > > > Yep. Asking firefox itself (firefox --help) confirms that the > > option wants two dashes. > > See https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/CommandLineOptions#-private-window > > or just try it! It works pefectly well

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 22:56:33 +0530, Pranjal Singh wrote: > It runs regular Firefox after adding the -private-window flag. > > To get a MWE, I made these changes later: > - Exec=firefox -private-window %u > - StartupWMClass=firefox > +Exec=gnome-calculator Did you see Gareth's reply at

MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+

As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) MoinMoin 1.x requires Python2, and Debian 11 and newer don't have Python2 any more. They only have

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 21:00:38 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/manpages-dev/strftime.3.en.html > > is a list of place names for MANY parts of a date layout. I have set up the > following code in my text substitution app: > "%a %d%b%Y at %H:%M:%S =UTC %Z" >

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:09:35 +0800, Jeff Peng wrote: > I am running a small mailserver with debian 11 for many years. It's quite > solid. > Though I have read this article: > https://www.cherryservers.com/blog/debian-12-bookworm-release > do you think there is any need for me to upgrade from

Re: RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 14:16:14 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > . > > Reading the link that Walton sent, the only case where RTC clock in UTC is > recommended is in the linux/windows dual-boot case. There's no statement > that RTC should be set to UTC

Re: dictd?

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 22:15:20 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > ср, 19 июн. 2024 г. в 16:18, Greg Wooledge : > > > > > Place files to /usr/share/dictd and run `dictdconfig -w` and restart > > > > dictd service > > > > > > Thanks! I guess it doe

Re: dictd?

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 07:51:34 -, David Chmelik wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 10:29:58 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > > ср, 19 июн. 2024 г. в 06:53, David Chmelik : > >> How can I add a dictionary (I have dictionary.dict.gz & > >> dictionary.index) > >> to dictd? Apparently doesn't work

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 23:09:04 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 07:07:36 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 23:54:03 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > What should I call the timezone of my computer when it's booted up and > &g

Re: disable GUI/X?

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): > > > How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run it when I > > decide as startx/startxfce/etc. > > # systemctl get-default # reports bootup state > # systemctl

Re: Instant flush to file

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 21:17:07 +0800, Jeff Peng wrote: > After write to file with bash shell like: > > echo … > file > echo … >> file > > Is it possible the file get no update instantly? No. Each of those commands opens the file (the first one opens it for write, the second opens it for

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 23:54:03 -0500, David Wright wrote: > What should I call the timezone of my computer when it's booted up and > no users are logged in? Daemons will almost always use the system's default time zone (the one specified by /etc/localtime or /etc/timezone). It's

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

gt; > What time zone are you *actually* in? Like, what country, and what major > > city is nearest to you? > > UTC +10:00 > > Australia, Geelong Our capital is Melbourne So, everything looks fine here. > Greg, if there is something not right with my answer, please let me know.

Re: Bookworm: IBM DSD3300 iSCSI connection problem [solved]

On 6/17/24 11:04, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 3:41 PM Greg <mailto:p...@sojka.co>> wrote: Hi there, I'm trying to mount iscsi share exported from old IBM DS3300. Unfortunately I get the following error: ping timeout of 5 secs expired, recv

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 18:22:29 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > [...] > > > You asked after your /system/ clock. I don't think I can tell whether > > it's set to UTC or Local Time, but only that it is correct, whichever > > it

Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 10:36:59 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 10:23:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > /etc/timezone is only used by some legacy programs. All the current > > ones should be using /etc/localtime instead, which is a symlink to a > >

Re: time display was: Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 15:56:13 +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 16/6/24 23:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > > It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > You asked after your /system/ clock. I don't think I can tell whether > it's set to UTC or Local Time, but only that it is correct, whichever > it it on. Likewise the hardware RTC. The third line of /etc/adjtime > says what the RTC is

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 06:26:19PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 16/6/24 23:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly 18:13:36 when > I pressed send. I

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 06:47:41PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 17/6/24 14:20, David Wright wrote: > > All the aliases that lie textually after the one with the missing ' > > will remain undefined, so you can use bisection to locate where in > > the file problem lies. > > If I didn't use a

Bookworm: IBM DSD3300 iSCSI connection problem

Hi there, I'm trying to mount iscsi share exported from old IBM DS3300. Unfortunately I get the following error: ping timeout of 5 secs expired, recv timeout 5, last rx 4405941922, last ping 4405943173, now 440598 DS3300 is in "Optimal" state. Thanks in advance for any help More info

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Environment Variables: Bash has a limit on the number of environment > variables it can store, which is typically around 32,000. If you define too > many aliases, you may exceed this limit, causing issues with your shell.

Re: Why isn't the "whois" package (Priority: standard) installed by default?

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 07:57:59PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > The "whois" package has "Priority: standard". hobbit:~$ apt-cache show whois | grep Priority Priority: optional

Re: systemd-tmpfiles: file globbing?

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 12:00:25PM +0200, Frank Van Damme wrote: > Is there a way to apply max lifetimes to files matching a pattern? I can't > find any way to tell it to, say, remove *.txt files older than a month from > /tmp/foo. If you're willing to turn away from systemd, find(1) can do this.

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........ [solved]

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 03:42:27PM +1000, Charlie wrote: > For completeness. Had tried right and left at same time on touchpad of > laptop. As it worked years ago. Pressing left+right buttons simultaneously was indeed one of the hacks that people used to mimic the middle button in some X11

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 12:16:00PM +1000, Charlie wrote: > Cannot recall what version of Debian stopped copying text in xterm by > Ctrl + C or Shift + Ctrl + C So don't know how to copy from xterm xterm is a terminal emulator. Pressing Ctrl-C in a terminal emulator simply passes a byte (0x03)

Re: systemctl vs service

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 07:50:45AM +0800, Jeff Peng wrote: > I was a bit confused, systemctl and service both are used for service > control (start|stop|reload etc). what's the suggested way for using them? The "service" command originated with Red Hat's implementation of sysv-rc and is

can't connect to server from outside LAN

t of my work involves sending files via scp between work and home. Any suggestions about how to troubleshoot and hopefully fix the problem will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Greg Marks signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Please help me identify package so I can report an important bug

On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 09:01:44PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > No need. You can have your traditional names (I do). Just add > "net.ifnames=0" (if necessry separated by a space, should > other stuff be already there) to your GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT > in your /etc/default/grub, then ru

Re: info vs. man (was: Re: date for week)

On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 11:22:17PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 11/06/2024 06:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Should you ever feel a need to read the longer version of the > > documentation, it's in GNU info pages. So you would need to type > > the command "i

Re: date for week

On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 07:19:42AM +0800, Jeff Peng wrote: > While I expect the output should be: > > $ date +%such_a_option > Tuesday > > or > $ date +%such_a_option > Tue > > does date command has this option? You can run the command "man date" to read the short version of the documentation.

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 02:14:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > orca is gone, as is gnome. Apt and synaptic refuse to re-install gnome w/o > dragging in orca too. Good night, whats left of it, Tom. The "gnome" metapackage depends on "orca". It's a direct dependency. hobbit:~$ apt-cache show

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

On Fri, Jun 07, 2024 at 01:14:16AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > In experimenting I've found a name clash, there are appprently two orca's. > one is a speech synth, one is a slicer for 3d printers I don't use. Oh! That sounds super relevant. If you're not using the second one, where did it come

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 11:47:02AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > As long as you don't do an "apt-get autoremove" afterward, nothing else > > will be deleted, other than what apt-get told you it was going to delete. > > > autoremove is the first command of my update script. Designed to get rid of

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 10:58:22AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Any attempt to remove cura or brltty, removes gnome leaving me I assume with > a text only system by the time gnome takes all its dependency's with it. "assume" This is your fundamental problem here. Do you know what the "gnome"

Re: tree with dir size

On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 04:40:07PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > FYI the revision of duhs() I adopt is: > > duhs() { ( shopt -s dotglob; printf '%s\0' "${1:-.}" "${1:-.}"*/ | xargs -0 > du -shl ) }↑ > > Please note that I dropped a "/" in the

Re: tree with dir size

On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 07:42:17PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 03 Jun 2024 at 18:29:17 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > ‘-s’ > > ‘--summarize’ > > Display only a total for each argument. > > > > There's supposed to be a total *FOR EACH ARGUMENT*.

Re: tree with dir size

On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 10:45:28PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 03/06/24 at 16:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > duhs() { > > ( > >shopt -s dotglob > >printf '%s\0' "${1:-.}"/*/ | xargs -0 du -sh > > ) > > } > &

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 03:45:11AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 4/6/24 03:25, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > > (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air > > > Force named > > > its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine) > > >

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 02:18:40PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > eben@cerberus:~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64 > linux-image-amd64: > Installed: (none) > Candidate: 6.1.90-1 > What am I doing wrong? You haven't installed the linux-image-amd64 metapackage, which means you will not be

Re: tree with dir size

On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 01:11:57PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 03 Jun 2024 at 10:32:16 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > duhs() ( > > shopt -s dotglob > > printf '%s\0' "${1:-.}"/*/ | xargs -0 du -sh > > ) > > > > I'm not personal

Re: tree with dir size

On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 03:52:54PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 31/05/24 at 22:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > It could be improved adding the "-a" switch to show also the hidden > > > directories and the "--color" switch to the "grep" com

Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" (was: Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501))

On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 10:02:58AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > If you change subject > > or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email > > accordingly so that this can be clearly seen. > > > > For example: New question

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 09:20:59AM +0200, DdB wrote: > > #!/bin/bash -e > > > > coproc { bash; } > > exec 5<&${COPROC[0]} 6>&${COPROC[1]} > > fd=5 > > > > echo "ls" >&6 > > while IFS= read -ru $fd line > > do > > printf '%s\n' "$line" > > done > > > > printf "%s\n" "sleep 3;exit" >&6 > >

Re: tree with dir size

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 09:35:59PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > If a coloured ] is unimportant, I suppose you could use: > > tree --du -Fh whatever | grep --color '][[:space:]][[:space:]].*/$' You don't need to count spaces. Just '].*/$' would suffice. We already know we want to start with

Re: tree with dir size

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 09:18:03PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 31/05/24 at 02:18, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Confusing and useless. I still don't have a better answer than this: > > > > hobbit:~$ tree --du -Fh /tmp/x | grep /$ > > [7.8M]/tmp/x/ > > └── [4.

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 05:30:19PM +0100, mick.crane wrote: > I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the > directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a > file while you were half way through fetching it. If you're copying a file, that

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 08:58:34AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 5/30/24 20:09, mick.crane wrote: > > On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote: > > > Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over > > > LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, > > >

Re: tree with dir size

On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 08:04:26PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > It looks like "tree --du" should do it, but "tree -d --du -h" says > > > ├── [452K] Documents > I think "du -h -S -s Documents/" gives just the files in Documents, and not > its subdirectories, and it gives 269M. "ls -ldh

Re: tree with dir size

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 06:57:27AM +0800, Northwind wrote: > both the size of current path and subdir should be expected. According to the man page, that's what it does. I just installed tree and tried it. There's a subtle behavior that I did not expect: hobbit:/usr/local$ tree -d --du -h

Re: tree with dir size

On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 06:51:30PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > It looks like "tree --du" should do it, but "tree -d --du -h" says > > ├── [452K] Documents > > when du says it's 787M. Well, that sounds like one of the numbers includes subdirectories and the other only includes files in the

Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 01:00:24PM -0400, Michael Grant wrote: > So once I've done this dpkg -i to install a package, I can do that > without removing the old one first? Yes, dpkg will upgrade or downgrade the existing package. > And, once I've hammered a package into place with dpkg, in the

Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 09:12:18AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote: > > You will most likely need to remove the testing versions of these packages > > (apache2, git and so on) and then install the bookworm versions afterward. > > Those dependent packages (most if not all) are not from testing. >

Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 07:09:16AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 06:59:50AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 06:10:11AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote: > > > The following packages will be REMOVED: > > > [...] libdb5.3t64 [..

Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 06:10:11AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote: > The following packages will be REMOVED: > [...] libdb5.3t64 [...] You've *clearly* still got testing packages installed.

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 05:09:02PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?) Because to the average person, "Internet access" equals "wifi". They use the terms interchangeably. Also, some recent model laptops no longer have an ethernet port. If you want to

Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 10:28:37AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 10:19:48AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 09:56:54AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote: > > > I needed to install a version of sendmail from testing a while

Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 09:56:54AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote: > I needed to install a version of sendmail from testing a while back to > test it. Your subject header says "bookworm stable". You don't install binary packages from testing on a stable system. You use backports instead.

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 01:49:58PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 1:46 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 01:40:38PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:13 AM Paul M Foster > > &

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 01:40:38PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:13 AM Paul M Foster > wrote: > > 192.168.254.30 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite > 127.0.1.1 is traditionally used for the fully qualified domain name > (fqdn). So I would expect to see

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:13PM +0100, Joe wrote: > Long ago, lo used to be just 127.0.0.1, which is what most people would > try to ping to check localhost, and what appeared in /etc/hosts. There > is some subtle reason, which I used to know but have now long forgotten, > why Debian started

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:14PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 24.05.2024 um 17:17:45 Uhr schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > If you operate mail servers, you must have a FQDN. .lan can't be > > > used for the

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