Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone Image Available

2013-09-05 Thread Paul Lacatus
On 9/3/2013 3:24 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 9/2/2013 7:14 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 09/02/2013 03:38 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: I have a new version of the MachineKit image for running LinuxCNC on a BeagleBone available: Image: http://bb-lcnc.blogspot.com/p/machinekit_16.html

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Dave Caroline
An important spec to look for in any motor is the stall torque to give an idea of its ability to move a dead load like a machine table that also has stiction (stationary friction) and any other load on the table to overcome. Note power is the product of torque and rpm the formulas are on

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone Image Available

2013-09-05 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 05.09.2013 um 08:28 schrieb Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro: On 9/3/2013 3:24 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 9/2/2013 7:14 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 09/02/2013 03:38 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: I have a new version of the MachineKit image for running LinuxCNC on a BeagleBone

[Emc-users] Control refit options - best economical servo amp for this application?

2013-09-05 Thread Greg Bentzinger
Hello group; An old friend contacted me recently about problems he has been having with his hobby mill. I say hobby because the man is a top notch surgeon who does mainly reconstruction of destroyed hands. His hobby mill looks to be a late 70's vintage CNC knee mill with a 2 or 3 hp

Re: [Emc-users] Control refit options - best economical servo amp for this application?

2013-09-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Thu, 9/5/13, Greg Bentzinger skullwo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello group; An old friend contacted me recently about problems he has been having with his hobby mill. I say hobby because the man is a top notch surgeon who does mainly reconstruction of destroyed hands. His hobby mill looks

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 September 2013 05:40, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote: The old motors were 5.8 amp cont, 30 amp peak. Stall torque 3NM cont. Max RPM 2400. Max voltage 140 DC 140V * 30A = 4200W 140V * 5.8A = 800W 3Nm * 2400 rpm = 750W You probably want at least 750W motors, geared to suit any

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone Image Available

2013-09-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.comwrote: On 09/04/2013 09:56 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip I tried AXIS but got: http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/LinuxCNC/Screenshot-3.png so I guess AXIS doesn't work with the BBB. Now, on to

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone Image Available

2013-09-05 Thread Bob Weiss
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:55 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.netwrote: I bought a BBB card for using on my little MF70 CNC. I am looking for a while on internet but did not found anything about using a BBB with a cape or connection to emulate the parallel port by BBB GPIO. I have

Re: [Emc-users] Control refit options - best economical servo amp for this application?

2013-09-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 September 2013 08:11, Greg Bentzinger skullwo...@yahoo.com wrote: What he would like to do is replace the amps and control, re-using servos and existing limit switch wiring and power supplies. ... I will likely use one of the 5i25 combo's for I/O. I am considering showing him touchy

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone Image Available

2013-09-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 September 2013 10:36, Bob Weiss bweiss0...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice though if there was such a Parallel Port Breakout type board pre-made for those that need that option and provided the connectors ready to be wired up.. I made one for the Raspberry Pi:

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Thu, 9/5/13, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thursday, September 5, 2013, 3:19 AM On 5 September 2013 05:40, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Lubrication

2013-09-05 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 04.09.13 15:21, andy pugh wrote: On 4 September 2013 14:05, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Oil bath bearings in the bottom of a gearbox are bathed in ALL of the wear particles of the gear train - not a good situation. That's an interesting point. I guess it is possible

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Sven Wesley
2013/9/5 Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com On Thu, 9/5/13, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thursday, September 5, 2013, 3:19 AM On 5 September 2013

[Emc-users] Creating Screw Compensation Table

2013-09-05 Thread Russell Brown
I've RTFM and Googled but I can't find an idiot's guide to creating a lead screw compensation table for Linuxcnc. Is my googlefu weak or is there no such thing? ...or do I actually need one at all? As background (Hello! and Warning Newbie Alert!) I have a metric WMD30LV (big brother to the

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone Image Available

2013-09-05 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 09/05/2013 02:31 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.comwrote: On 09/04/2013 09:56 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip I tried AXIS but got: http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/LinuxCNC/Screenshot-3.png so I guess AXIS

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Jon Elson
Gregg Eshelman wrote: What I'm looking for is for each type of motor (AC and BLDC) is You want at least x watts and n amps to at least be in the same range as the old motor. On cncdrives.com I noticed the torque values listed are different for AC and DC motors of the same watts. The old

Re: [Emc-users] Creating Screw Compensation Table

2013-09-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 September 2013 19:08, Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com wrote: Were the 'errors' I showed (~.015mm over a 50mm move) in the right ball park for a non-ball-screw benchtop mill driven by steppers? Not brilliant, but then I doubt that the machine is driven by super-precision screws. Should

Re: [Emc-users] Creating Screw Compensation Table

2013-09-05 Thread Russell Brown
Quoth bodge...@gmail.com. On 5 September 2013 16:33, Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com wrote: Is this the sort of thing that a screw compensation table is meant to deal with? If so, how do I actually measure the numbers for the table? Then just run up the table, G0 X10, note the reading

Re: [Emc-users] Control refit options - best economical servo amp for this application?

2013-09-05 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 09/05/2013 02:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 September 2013 08:11, Greg Bentzinger skullwo...@yahoo.com wrote: What he would like to do is replace the amps and control, re-using servos and existing limit switch wiring and power supplies. ... I will likely use one of the 5i25 combo's for

Re: [Emc-users] Creating Screw Compensation Table

2013-09-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 September 2013 16:33, Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com wrote: Is this the sort of thing that a screw compensation table is meant to deal with? If so, how do I actually measure the numbers for the table? Normally it is quite difficult. But as you have glass scales then it seems like it

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone Image Available

2013-09-05 Thread Ron Bean
I still don't see a benefit in using a BB with a Bridgeport class machine I tend to assume that a single-board computer like the Beaglebone would be more reliable than a desktop PC, just because it has fewer moving parts.

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Sven Wesley
Anyway, you can compute the linear force a ballscrew can exert from some given motor torque, and then compute how much acceleration in G's that will give. That is a good exercise, rather than talking about motor Watts. Jon ...which you can do with my calc sheet posted earlier. :) /S

Re: [Emc-users] Control refit options - best economical servo amp for this application?

2013-09-05 Thread Jon Elson
Greg Bentzinger wrote: Hello group; An old friend contacted me recently about problems he has been having with his hobby mill. I say hobby because the man is a top notch surgeon who does mainly reconstruction of destroyed hands. His hobby mill looks to be a late 70's vintage CNC knee mill

Re: [Emc-users] Creating Screw Compensation Table

2013-09-05 Thread Troy Jacobson
What are the DRO readings vs. commanded position at regular intervals along the entire length of travel? On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:20 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2013 19:08, Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com wrote: Were the 'errors' I showed (~.015mm over a 50mm

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Kerry Lynn
On 9/5/13 7:07 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: On Thu, 9/5/13, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thursday, September 5, 2013, 3:19 AM On 5 September 2013

Re: [Emc-users] Creating Screw Compensation Table

2013-09-05 Thread Stuart Stevenson
If you do bidirectional compensation then backlash does not apply. I think I would adjust the scale to get the numbers to match as good as possible. Then the compensation values would be small. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:20 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2013 19:08,

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread dave
On Thu, 2013-09-05 at 20:19 -0400, Kerry Lynn wrote: On 9/5/13 7:07 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: On Thu, 9/5/13, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque? To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date:

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor watts VS torque?

2013-09-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Thu, 9/5/13, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know what your machine looks like, but I think many people believe they need much larger servos than actually needed. My steel router has a gantry weight around 80-90 kg and is driven by small Nidec servos rated at 80 V

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone Image Available

2013-09-05 Thread Jon Elson
Ron Bean wrote: I still don't see a benefit in using a BB with a Bridgeport class machine I tend to assume that a single-board computer like the Beaglebone would be more reliable than a desktop PC, just because it has fewer moving parts. All Bridgeport mill and Romi lathes made

Re: [Emc-users] Creating Screw Compensation Table

2013-09-05 Thread Marshland Engineering
Were the 'errors' I showed (~.015mm over a 50mm move) in the right ball park for a non-ball-screw benchtop mill driven by steppers? This sounds well within then range if normal screws if not better than I would have expected. Another way of looking at this is it is 0.03% error. Very small.

[Emc-users] Plasma Table

2013-09-05 Thread Jack Coats
Has anyone done a DIY plasma table, or have suggestions I could find out about a DIY version? I am a rookie and just learning, wanting to find out if it could be practical for a hobby setup. TIA, Jack -- Learn the