On 11/26/2011 2:01 PM, Cecil Thomas wrote:
> I have to come out of lurkdom on this subject.
>
>
>
>
>
> Please do not consider for even a moment abandoning the Live CD
> simplified installation!
>
> Thanks again for all the hard work.
>
> Cecil
>
Cecil:
I can only speak for myself. In my original
I have to come out of lurkdom on this subject.
I am one of those who has 3 working systems running from live CD
installations and with the exception of obvious .ini file setup and a
tweak to disable SMI I am using it "out of the box".
I have been using EMC since the late 90's when it was on Red
I have to come out of lurkdom on this subject.
I am one of those who has 3 working systems running from live CD
installations and with the exception of obvious .ini file setup and a
tweak to disable SMI I am using it "out of the box".
I have been using EMC since the late 90's when it was on Red
> The question to answer it not which distro _you_ prefer, but which
> will be best for the project, and best for new users.
>
> --
> atp
> The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply,
> wrong.
>
well I tried Unity (the new window manager) from a livecd when
On 11/25/2011 02:38 PM, Eric Keller wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Moses McKnight wrote:
>
>>
>>And of course Debian is what Ubuntu is based on but it tends to be
>> more stable. It has not historically had as good hardware and media
>> format support out of the box as Ubuntu partl
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Moses McKnight wrote:
>
> And of course Debian is what Ubuntu is based on but it tends to be
> more stable. It has not historically had as good hardware and media
> format support out of the box as Ubuntu partly due to a more strict
> adherence to an open-sourc
On 11/25/2011 01:11 PM, Eric Keller wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:51 AM, andy pugh wrote:
>
>> On 25 November 2011 10:51, Peter Blodow wrote:
>>> Andy, you hit me severely there. My respect to all developers and
>>> programmers of EMC, but I am sure there is a large silent majority of
>>> EM
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:51 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> On 25 November 2011 10:51, Peter Blodow wrote:
> > Andy, you hit me severely there. My respect to all developers and
> > programmers of EMC, but I am sure there is a large silent majority of
> > EMC users who participate without writing to the
eskett
>To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:36 AM
>Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Next distribution after Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is no longer
>supported?
>
>On Friday, November 25, 2011 12:35:41 PM Edward Bernard did opine:
>
>You were going to say? :)
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t: Re: [Emc-users] Next distribution after Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is no
> >longer supported?
> >
> >It seems to me that if you have an opinion on this matter, and you are
> >posting it to this thread, then you, personally, are not the type of
> >user we should be cons
>
> From: andy pugh
>To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 4:20 AM
>Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Next distribution after Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is no longer
>supported?
>
>It seems to me that if you have an opi
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:11:42AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote:
> So, if I have a UP motherboard and upgrade to 10.04, which pulls SMP and
> APIC. I might be able to fix my system by learning how to compile my
> kernel and select UP instead of SMP?
You would have to build your own version of the ker
On 25 November 2011 10:51, Peter Blodow wrote:
> Andy, you hit me severely there. My respect to all developers and
> programmers of EMC, but I am sure there is a large silent majority of
> EMC users who participate without writing to the list, just reading and
> enjoying.
Indeed, my point is that
2011/11/25 andy pugh :
>
> The question to answer it not which distro _you_ prefer, but which
> will be best for the project, and best for new users.
>
>From my experience - those people, who are unfamiliar with EMC, are
unfamiliar with Linux. The fact that EMC is running on Ubuntu has
helped to c
I am using Debian squeeze + Trinity Desktop + Kernel and EMC2 from EMC
Repository. Basicly it's identical to Exe Linux Live-CD
http://exe-linux.fastfishwebsolutions.com/ with some tweaking (replace kernel
and some libs for emc). Basicly it's a good way to go for me, as I like
KDE3.5.
Nik
Am
is it not possible automate compilation processes?
--- On Fri, 11/25/11, Schooner wrote:
From: Schooner
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Next distribution after Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is, no longer
supported?
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Friday, November 25, 2011, 12:49 AM
Hi
The real
Andy, you hit me severely there. My respect to all developers and
programmers of EMC, but I am sure there is a large silent majority of
EMC users who participate without writing to the list, just reading and
enjoying.
andy pugh schrieb:
> It seems to me that if you have an opinion on this matte
It seems to me that if you have an opinion on this matter, and you are
posting it to this thread, then you, personally, are not the type of
user we should be considering.
Is there anyone here with a strong opinion on specific Linux
distributions who has a plain, unmodified, LiveCD installation? I
w
On 24.11.11 19:21, Moses McKnight wrote:
> Another option to consider is not using Unity or Gnome3 but maybe LXDE
> or XFCE instead. Both of these are quite adequate for a machine control
> and general desktop use. I used Xubuntu on my router table because it
> took less resources, and it work
Hi
The real problem it seems to me, is one of philosophy rather than what
is practically possible.
The use of Ubuntu as a carrier vehicle has enabled a lot of people with
minimal Linux knowledge to use EMC.
As Kirk said, if a better technical solution were used at the expense of
usability, tha
I was going to comment on Lubuntu. I am not sure if there are LTS
releases of it though.
--
All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
Another option to consider is not using Unity or Gnome3 but maybe LXDE
or XFCE instead. Both of these are quite adequate for a machine control
and general desktop use. I used Xubuntu on my router table because it
took less resources, and it works just fine.
Another thing I thought of last tim
On 24 November 2011 19:11, Kirk Wallace wrote:
> So, if I have a UP motherboard and upgrade to 10.04, which pulls SMP and
> APIC. I might be able to fix my system by learning how to compile my
> kernel and select UP instead of SMP?
Yes, in fact it _might_ be as simple as running menuconfig or xc
On Thursday, November 24, 2011 02:58:53 PM Kirk Wallace did opine:
> On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 09:23 -0600, Jeff Epler wrote:
> ... snip
>
> > The SMP version actually works on single-threaded CPUs, but requires a
> > hardware feature called "APIC". Information on the internet indicated
> > that Mic
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 09:23 -0600, Jeff Epler wrote:
... snip
> The SMP version actually works on single-threaded CPUs, but requires a
> hardware feature called "APIC". Information on the internet indicated
> that Microsoft made APIC a requirement for receiving the Windows logo in
> 2001, so we ju
In the long run, I think it would be MUCH better to target Debian stable. There
is no need for most
of the bleeding edge issues that come with Ubuntu for an application like EMC.
The stable dist of
Debian is really stable and used by many as servers. The only things that
change have to do wi
Kent A. Reed wrote:
> I'm glad you mentioned the memory requirement, Jon.
>
> Just because I've been looking at the EMC2 documentation lately, I've
> begun to wonder about some of the statements made about minimum
> requirements for CPU speed and RAM size. Some look suspiciously old.
> Have we t
There's no fixed answer to your question. If there is one, it's this:
Whatever members of the community step forward to provide
though for the last 4 or so years another answer has been
Each Ubuntu LTS release, sooner or later
If it really tickles your fancy, and you have hardware that
reel tape drive.
--- On Wed, 11/23/11, Kent A. Reed wrote:
From: Kent A. Reed
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Next distribution after Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is no longer
supported?
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2011, 8:33 PM
On 11/23/2011 9:55 PM, Jon Elso
hardware types.
otherwise 'obsolete' cpu habitats could be seen as an unexploited resource.
--- On Wed, 11/23/11, Kent A. Reed wrote:
From: Kent A. Reed
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Next distribution after Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is no longer
supported?
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)&qu
/23/11, Jack Coats wrote:
From: Jack Coats
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Next distribution after Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is no longer
supported?
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2011, 5:26 PM
Andy,
I was not trying to suggest EMC2 is bloated, but with
On 24 November 2011 02:46, Kirk Wallace wrote:
> What has me nervous is my recent experience of "upgrading" from 8.04 to
> 10.04 and having some of my long trusted motherboards not work or have
> terrible latency, with the usual fixes having no effect.
I believe that part of this was not directl
On 11/23/2011 07:52 PM, Jack Coats wrote:
> I'm not saying that the 10.04 is bloated, but some of the folks that
> have moved to 11.04 or 11.10 locally have noted several 'broke as
> designed' items and have complained about bloat in the newer versions
> as well as the new Ubiquity user interface.
On 11/23/2011 9:55 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
> Jack Coats wrote:
>> I know EMC2 doesn't do anything but Ubuntu LTS as it's 'official'
>> supported distribution.
>>
>> On several other lists I have noticed the complaints about the Ubuntu
>> Bloat and moving
>> to Unity and things not working.
>>
>> Have
On 11/23/2011 8:08 PM, Jack Coats wrote:
> I know EMC2 doesn't do anything but Ubuntu LTS as it's 'official'
> supported distribution.
>
> On several other lists I have noticed the complaints about the Ubuntu
> Bloat and moving
> to Unity and things not working.
>
> Have we, as a community or even
I'm not saying that the 10.04 is bloated, but some of the folks that
have moved to 11.04 or 11.10 locally have noted several 'broke as
designed' items and have complained about bloat in the newer versions
as well as the new Ubiquity user interface. I am guessing 12.04 will
be the next LTS version.
Jack Coats wrote:
> I know EMC2 doesn't do anything but Ubuntu LTS as it's 'official'
> supported distribution.
>
> On several other lists I have noticed the complaints about the Ubuntu
> Bloat and moving
> to Unity and things not working.
>
> Have we, as a community or even just developers, though
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 19:26 -0600, Jack Coats wrote:
> Andy,
> I was not trying to suggest EMC2 is bloated, but with the newer
> releases of Ubuntu, I have heard reports that they are becoming
> bloated.
>
> My thoughts were that EMC2 is with a fairly trim distribution
> (Ubuntu 10.04LTS) and
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 08:52:04 PM Jack Coats did opine:
> Andy,
> I was not trying to suggest EMC2 is bloated, but with the newer
> releases of Ubuntu, I have heard reports that they are becoming
> bloated.
>
> My thoughts were that EMC2 is with a fairly trim distribution
> (Ubuntu
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 08:23:43 PM Jack Coats did opine:
> I know EMC2 doesn't do anything but Ubuntu LTS as it's 'official'
> supported distribution.
>
> On several other lists I have noticed the complaints about the Ubuntu
> Bloat and moving
> to Unity and things not working.
>
> Have
Andy,
I was not trying to suggest EMC2 is bloated, but with the newer
releases of Ubuntu, I have heard reports that they are becoming
bloated.
My thoughts were that EMC2 is with a fairly trim distribution
(Ubuntu 10.04LTS) and should make sure the partner we pair with is
similarly endowed.
On 24 November 2011 01:08, Jack Coats wrote:
> On several other lists I have noticed the complaints about the Ubuntu
> Bloat
I have 4GB free on an 8GB SSD, and that includes all the EMC2 source
and developer tools. That doesn't strike me as particularly bloated.
--
atp
The idea that there is n
I know EMC2 doesn't do anything but Ubuntu LTS as it's 'official'
supported distribution.
On several other lists I have noticed the complaints about the Ubuntu
Bloat and moving
to Unity and things not working.
Have we, as a community or even just developers, thought about now to
go to a 'less blo
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