[FairfieldLife] [Sanskrit] Coulson and YF?

2011-01-29 Thread cardemaister
This is from Coulson's Sanskrit Primer, p. 211: bhos tathaa >ham [aham] utpatitaa yathaa sakala eSa giri ;nagara ;graama ;sarid ;araNya-vyatikarash cakSuSaa parikSipyate Oh, I have flown up so (high) that this whole expanse of mountains, cities, villages, rivers and forests is encompassed by my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

2011-01-29 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > Yes, I had a real champ for a surgeon, and this time the > > out of control flutter was completely taken care of. > > Another long ass procedure (5 hours including an ETT > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 28, 2011, at 9:10 PM, emptybill wrote: > > > Mira was always ready to claim hidden awakenings in the Inconscient due to > > her yogic powers. In reality she seems to have been a ex-theosophist, > > turned shakti servant of Aurobin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > Beautiful! This is also one of my favorate songs. I think it was even > > forbidden at a time and not played by the BBC out of the accusation that it > > was glorifying LSD

[FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > > > Demonstrators action plan: > > > > http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/01/egyptian-activists-action-plan-translated/70388/ > > > > > > Most Austinites and few

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > > > Beautiful! This is also one of my favorate songs. I think it was even > > > forbidden at a time and not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > 1. The Bible > > 2. IKEA's catalogue? > > 3. Don Quijote? > But the real question is this: what has been changed more often, the Bible or the IKEA cataloque?

[FairfieldLife] 31 Days of Love and Gratitude

2011-01-29 Thread Champs Ulysses Cabinatan
I'm making this one today. Just to get rid the boredom of being here in the Red Sea and Persian Gulf Region... I supposedly planning to have 365 Days... LOL.. take care all and enjoy the rest of the day! have to edit and proofread it further... :) -- Warm blessings & peace, Champs Ulysses

[FairfieldLife] 31 Days of Love and Gratitude [1 Attachment]

2011-01-29 Thread Champs Ulysses Cabinatan
See attached... I'm making this one today. Just to get rid the boredom of being here in the Red Sea and Persian Gulf Region... I supposedly plan to have 365 Days... LOL.. take care all and enjoy the rest of the day! have to edit and proofread it further... :) -- Warm blessings & peace,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > 1. The Bible > > > > 2. IKEA's catalogue? > > > > 3. Don Quijote? > > But the real question is this: what has been changed more > often, the Bible or the IKEA catal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > > > > 1. The Bible > > > > > > 2. IKEA's catalogue? > > > > > > 3. Don Quijote? > > > > But the re

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > > > > 1. The Bible > > > > > > 2. IKEA's catalogue? > > > > > > 3. Don Quijote? > > > > But the rea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The Bible > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Dream

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > Did you really, or are you making that up? If you really did, that's > pretty > > strange. > > Strange. Just a little strange that is was not immediately appar

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The Bible > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > * * * Thanks. Actually M. LeRoy Goff, the 1Vth and last, but my mother had pity on me and gave me "Rory" at birth :-) > Good. The lion that roars!

[FairfieldLife] Well, om maNi-padme huum (huung)?

2011-01-29 Thread cardemaister
Wiki: Most authorities consider maṇipadme to be one compound word rather than two simple words[citation needed]. --- Actually that makes a hole lot of sense! Namely, because, according to, say, Monier-Williams, 'maNi' is a masculine gender word, its nominative singular should be '

[FairfieldLife] "Most Amazing Video on the Internet"

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
Beautiful, very moving compilation of news footage of the protests in Egypt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThvBJMzmSZI And a tweet from Sana Saleem: "While Muslim protestors prayed today, Christian Egyptians formed human chains to protect them. Solidarity, strength and co-existence." (h/t tywk

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Most Amazing Video on the Internet"

2011-01-29 Thread jpgillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > And a tweet from Sana Saleem: > > "While Muslim protestors prayed today, Christian Egyptians > formed human chains to protect them. Solidarity, strength > and co-existence." > > (h/t tywkiwdbi.blogspot.com) Did you see that picture

[FairfieldLife] Distance and survival

2011-01-29 Thread jpgillam
I believe we've talked about the way people tend to have "witnessing" experiences in times of crisis. For example, I've told of a co-worker who reported, upon being told she had cancer, that she felt as though she was watching the diagnosis being given to another person. But we haven't talked a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

2011-01-29 Thread whynotnow7
Hi turquoiseb, What I find an even more fascinating phenomenon is that a few posters on this forum who routinely act as addicted critics towards Maharishi and the TMO (that is, almost *every* time a praise is made of either, they have to step in to "excuse" it or "explain it away") don't realiz

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > * * * Judy is correct; it is not possible for anyone to > counteract the "will of God," from Our point of view at > any rate. However, it is entirely possible for people to > resist what IS, to separate themselves from what IS and > lie ab

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
> "RoryGoff" wrote: > > * * * Yes, who knows? > > > > For me, the TMO, like all of Life, is basically a marvelous Rorschach test; > > we see whatever we need to see in order to feel whatever we need to feel in > > any given moment! :-D > > blusc0ut wrote: > > Oh thanks! You just said tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: >> Btw, Rory, I do remember you, and we had kind of exchanged roles from now. >> You were basically not in defense mode, but in protest/rebel mode, and >> portrayed Maharishi as a kind of demon IIRC. I never ever did this. I still >> have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > What I find a more fascinating phenomenon is that a > few posters on this forum who routinely act as cult > apologists for Maharishi and the TMO (that is, > almost *every* time a criticism is made of either, > they have to step in to "exc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > Time and again I have noticed that when we counter this > thought with one closer to (our) current truth -- as in > "they *should* be inept and comatose" -- that we notice > a distinctly liberating sense of relief -- we have just > offered

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > * * * Judy is correct; it is not possible for anyone to > > counteract the "will of God," from Our point of view at > > any rate. However, it is entirely possible for peo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > This brings up another interesting point. I find that it > is not our thoughts themselves about what apparently IS > that create our suffering; it is our subtler resistance > to them. Bingo. As some hack playwright once said, "For

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > Time and again I have noticed that when we counter this > > thought with one closer to (our) current truth -- as in > > "they *should* be inept and comatose" -- that we notice > > a distinctly liberating sense of relief -- we hav

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
"RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > This brings up another interesting point. I find that it > > is not our thoughts themselves about what apparently IS > > that create our suffering; it is our subtler resistance > > to them. turquoiseb wrote: > > Bingo. > > As some hack playwright once said, "For

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > * * * Thanks. Actually M. LeRoy Goff, the 1Vth and last, but my mother > had pity on me and gave me "Rory" at birth :-) > > > Good. The lion that roars! > * * *Ha! F

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > * * * Judy is correct; it is not possible for anyone to > > > counteract the "will of God," from Our p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > This brings up another interesting point. I find that it > > is not our thoughts themselves about what apparently IS > > that create our suffering; it is our subtler resis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > This brings up another interesting point. I find that it > > > is not our thoughts themselves about what apparently IS > > > that create our suffering; it is our subtler resistance > > > to them. > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread whynotnow7
"those who occationally try to taunt me into replying to them or to entering into some long discussion with them by dissing or poking fun at what I believe in don't succeed much." I often respond to what you write, without any expectation of receiving a reply from you. I am not taunting you, jus

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > This brings up another interesting point. I find that it > > > is not our thoughts themselves about w

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: >> If I don't know the truth experientially--if my experiential > reality is of separateness--then you simply cannot legitimately > call it a lie. I'm telling the truth about my experiential > reality. > * * * Yes! Separateness is an enti

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > That, I think, is why those who occationally > try to taunt me into replying to them or to > entering into some long discussion with them > by dissing or poking fun at what I believe in > don't succeed much. I don't believe in much of >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > >> P.S.: Both Hamlet and Manson were committing what's > called a "category error," specifically, applying > the the truth of one level of consciousness onto > another one. > > Hamlet, as it happens, was using it to suggest that > Rose

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > >> If I don't know the truth experientially--if my experiential > > reality is of separateness--then you simply cannot legitimately > > call it a lie. I'm telling the truth abo

[FairfieldLife] "We are with the people"

2011-01-29 Thread Tom Pall
"On Friday, the troops had appeared steadfastly neutral. Late Saturday, however, they were doing nothing to move demonstrators out of the streets, despite an earlier announcement by security services that anyone remaining in central squares or major roadways after 4 p.m. would face arrest. Asked w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stoneham doctor's alleged killer, Stryker, dies in prison

2011-01-29 Thread gullible fool
In case anyone does not know, this doctor was a governor at the Cambridge TM center in the 80s, after which he spent some time working at the TMO' s ayurvedic clinic, the one that was off-campus on Glasgow Road and caught fire. His role there was to legitimize the recommendations of the non-lic

[FairfieldLife] Have US companies helped in Egypt Internet crackdown?

2011-01-29 Thread Tom Pall
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/foremski/have-us-companies-helped-in-egypt-internet-crackdown/1651 or http://tinyurl.com/6f52677 By Tom Foremski | January 28, 2011, 11:52am PST "Free Press , the non-partisan lobbying organization, reports that US companies are involved in pro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: >> That's a delight that I think many here are > missing out on. Curtis has pointed out in the > past that he is able to poke fun at some of > the...uh...oddities of the TM movement because > in doing so he's poking fun at *himself*, too.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > I disagree. That isn't a lie either, subtle or otherwise. > As I said before, it may be a *mistake*, it may be a > mistake that causes suffering, but it isn't a lie. > > In fact, what *would* be a lie would be if I said, Oh, > well, al

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > I disagree. That isn't a lie either, subtle or otherwise. > > As I said before, it may be a *mistake*, it may be a > > mistake that causes suffering, but it isn't a li

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you for not breeding

2011-01-29 Thread John
Hey, Meow Calm down. You're ranting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m 13 wrote: > > WHAT!? > Who s "lifestyle" do we have to 'sustain'?Seems to me that the 'progress '   > that has come has really been no progress at all. Simpler lifestyles are to > be sustained. Not this tear up the wo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread emptybill
As far as the world, Ramalinga was only concerned to bring the path of total divinisation to this world so others could follow and realize the result. Aurobindo (literally: the point-essence of a light ray) was concerned to divinize the Inconscient (the life-ground resting on sheer matter). Th

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
> Rory wrote: OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, "It must > > be OK for this terrible suffering to BE, because it IS in > > this moment"? "authfriend" wrote: > That would be an utterly irrelevant thought for me. The > relevant thought would be, This terrible suffering should > not exi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

2011-01-29 Thread Bhairitu
It they *dare* try that here all hell *will* break out. You will have awakened a large part of the tech community who *will* not take it kindly and provide technology for an insurgency. I heard that Egyptians are even communicating via Bluetooth. That's rather limited but works. Bet some

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread shanti2218411
To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't actually be resolved.People who are "awake' will experience "reality" ,whatever the hell that is :), as non dual, people who are not"awake" will experience reality as separate from the self, I think the mistake is thinking that one stat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stoneham doctor's alleged killer, Stryker, dies in prison

2011-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 29, 2011, at 12:36 PM, gullible fool wrote: > In case anyone does not know, this doctor was a governor at the Cambridge TM > center in the 80s, after which he spent some time working at the TMO' s > ayurvedic clinic, the one that was off-campus on Glasgow Road and caught > fire. His rol

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't actually be > resolved.People who are "awake' will experience "reality" ,whatever the hell > that is :), as non dual, people who are not"awake" will experience reality a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stoneham doctor's alleged killer, Stryker, dies in prison

2011-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 29, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: > gull, do you (or anyone else) know if this guy has any > relatives (like a sister) here in Fairfield? Never mind~~found the answer to my own question on line. Turns out they had a memorial service for him here a little over a week ago. Scary

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread shanti2218411
I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the most fundamental mistakes people make is thinking reality should be than what it is at this moment.Denial of what IS invariably results in the perpetuation of suffering.This is very clearl

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen thousands of clients, I > have no doubt that one of the most fundamental mistakes people make is > thinking reality should be than what it is at this moment.Denial of what IS

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Dream

2011-01-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seventhray1 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:37 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Dream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > Did you real

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > Rory wrote: OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, "It must > > > be OK for this terrible suffering to BE, because it IS in > > > this moment"? > > "authfriend" wrote: > > That would be an utterly irrelevant thought for me. The >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > It they *dare* try that here all hell *will* break out. Uh, they won't try that here. Egypt has only four major Internet access providers, so it's fairly simple to shut it down. That would be virtually impossible here. You will have >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen > thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the > most fundamental mistakes people make is thinking > reality should be than what it is at this moment. > Denial of what IS

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't > actually be resolved.People who are "awake' will > experience "reality" ,whatever the hell that is :), as non > dual, people who are not"awake" will experience reality as

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
> > Rory wrote: OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, "It must > > > > be OK for this terrible suffering to BE, because it IS in > > > > this moment"? > > > > "authfriend" wrote: > > > That would be an utterly irrelevant thought for me. The > > > relevant thought would be, This terrible

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > > > I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen > > thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the > > most fundamental mistakes people make is thinking > > reality should be than what it is at this moment. > > D

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > > > To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't > > actually be resolved.People who are "awake' will > > experience "reality" ,whatever the hell that is :), as non > > dual, people who are not"awake" will experie

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > Rory wrote: OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, "It must > > > > > be OK for this terrible suffering to BE, because it IS in > > > > > this moment"? > > > > > > "authfriend" wrote: > > > > That would be an utterly irreleva

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > > > > > I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen > > > thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the > > > most fundamental mistakes people make is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread vajradhatu108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" wrote: > That brings up another good point. When I was a student at MIU/MUM I > remember a lot of anxiety going around regarding whether or not someone would > attain enlightenment in this lifetime. Later in life, while studying Vedic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread Vaj
On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:56 AM, blusc0ut wrote: >> Since even in Sri Vidya and other Hindu anuttara-tantra level sadhanas we >> result in a tantric-level ceasing of the mayaic form-body, you could easily >> say they not only failed to realize maha-sandhi levels of realization, they >> also missed

[FairfieldLife] Internet Kill Switch For the US?

2011-01-29 Thread Tom Pall
As I see it, you'd not have to shut down the ISPs. Just mess with some routing tables. Some countries have disappeared from the Internet for up to an hour because of DNS problems. IIRC the last country to "disappear" from the Internet was Sweden, because of a missing decimal point in a DNS entr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Internet Kill Switch For the US?

2011-01-29 Thread Vaj
On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Tom Pall wrote: > > As I see it, you'd not have to shut down the ISPs. Just mess with some > routing tables. Some countries have disappeared from the Internet for up to > an hour because of DNS problems. IIRC the last country to "disappear" from > the Internet

Re: [FairfieldLife] The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:47 PM, shainm307 wrote: > My dad and I were talking and I told him that according to maharishi and > another book I read: when you are elightened you always follow the will of > God. But he said that God is everything therefor the will of God is > everything. It seems

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
> > > > Rory wrote: OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, "It must be OK for this terrible suffering to BE, because it IS in this moment"? > > > > > > > > "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > That would be an utterly irrelevant thought for me. The > > > > > relevant thought would be, This terri

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen > > > > thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the > > > > most fundamental mistakes people make is thinking > > > > reality should be than what it i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:56 AM, blusc0ut wrote: > > >> Since even in Sri Vidya and other Hindu anuttara-tantra level sadhanas we > >> result in a tantric-level ceasing of the mayaic form-body, you could > >> easily say they not only failed t

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread shanti2218411
Good point, denial is actually the perception that reality is something other than what it actually what it actually is e.g. I lost my job b/c my boss is a jerk(not because I was late for work numerous times b/c I was hung over)OTOH the motivation for denial in this example is driven by the de

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shainm307" wrote: > > My dad and I were talking and I told him that according to maharishi and > another book I read: when you are elightened you always follow the will of > God. But he said that God is everything therefor the will of God is > everythin

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
RG:> > * * * I am so sorry for the disconnect, Judy! I don't really > > see where I am asking you to "see" much of anything; I am > > just trying to point out where our suffering lies... > JS: You don't see the disconnect between what comes before > the semicolon in what you just wrote and what

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > > > > > > > To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't > > > > actually be resolved.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Internet Kill Switch For the US?

2011-01-29 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Vaj wrote: > > On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Tom Pall wrote: > > > > > As I see it, you'd not have to shut down the ISPs. Just mess with some > routing tables. Some countries have disappeared from the Internet for up to > an hour because of DNS problems. IIRC t

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > RG:> > * * * I am so sorry for the disconnect, Judy! I don't really > > > see where I am asking you to "see" much of anything; I am > > > just trying to point out where our suffering lies... > > > JS: You don't see the disconnect

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread shanti2218411
Cognitive therapy is based on the perspective that what a person is thinking directly affects their mood and behavior.Tx consists of an attempt to help a person recognize whether the thought they are having e.g. "my future is hopeless" is connected to their depressed mood Through a a process o

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > Oy! Is is alright if we're not buying your technique, Rory? Go back to > feeling the body. This too shall pass. BTW Judy is not an alien. > * * * Yes, raunchydog, it's OK with me if you're not buying into this technique! It's just

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > Rory wrote: > OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, "It must be OK for this terrible > suffering to BE, because it IS in this moment"? > > > > > > > > > > "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > That would be an utterly irrel

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > Cognitive therapy is based on the perspective that what a person is thinking > directly affects their mood and behavior.Tx consists of an attempt to help a > person recognize whether the thought they are having > e.g. "my future

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen > > > > > thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the > > > > > most fundamental mist

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread Peter
--- On Sat, 1/29/11, vajradhatu108 wrote: > From: vajradhatu108 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator. > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 5:30 PM > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "seekliberation" wrote: > > > That bring

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > Judy, I really think that this is the problem with so-called Neo-Advaita. You > could say, that for Rory, you (or me) are his Rohrschach test :-) You cannot > keep this 'accept everything' without getting into an infinite regression. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > To me this is

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > JS: Whether I'm motivated to do something to relieve the > > suffering I'm seeing, and how successful I am. > > * * * RG: OK; I hear that as you're saying you're primarily concerned with > taking steps "out there" in the world to heal

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > JS: Whether I'm motivated to do something to relieve the > > > suffering I'm seeing, and how successful I am. > > > > * * * RG: OK; I hear that as you're saying you're prima

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet Kill Switch For the US?

2011-01-29 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: 60 minutes had a > show last week featuring the FDIC coming into the branches of a bank on > Friday night, taking over all operations and re-opening on Saturday manned > by feds. The teams filled large hotel conference rooms with the person

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > RG:> > * * * I am so sorry for the disconnect, Judy! I don't really > > > see where I am asking you to "see" much of anything; I am > > > just trying to point out where our suffering lies... > > > JS: You don't see the disconnect betwee

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread raunchydog
RG: This stuff is making a great deal of sense to many thousands of "ordinary" people on this planet. JS: Is it up for a vote? RG: I think actually it's already been voted on by the hundreds of thousands of people who have read and enjoyed Tolle, or watched him on Oprah, or read Byron Katie, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > Judy, I really think that this is the problem with so-called Neo-Advaita. > > You could say, that for Rory, you (or me) are his Rohrschach test :-) You > > cannot k

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" wrote: > > > > > > To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't > > > actually be resolved.People who are "awake' will > > > experience "reality" ,whatever the hell

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-01-29 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 29 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Feb 05 00:00:00 2011 153 messages as of (UTC) Sun Jan 30 00:07:01 2011 28 RoryGoff 27 authfriend 19 seventhray1 11 blusc0ut 6 turquoiseb 6 Vaj 6 Tom Pall 5 yifuxero 4

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread seventhray1
> > Better luck next time! > > Nah, Maharishi was fully enlightened. He showed me his vast, blazing enlightenment. What, You think Guru Dev made a chump? No, Maharishi was Guru Dev's darshan. For someone who seems to have found a bigger, better way, Vaj sure spends a lot of time around here. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet Kill Switch For the US?

2011-01-29 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:02 PM, seventhray1 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > 60 minutes had a > > show last week featuring the FDIC coming into the branches of a bank on > > Friday night, taking over all operations and re-opening on Saturday > manned > > by

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > I don't know if that is what Judy meant, but to me it seems you are twisting her words here: I haven't been following the discussion, except a tiny bit. But between Judy and Rory, you got to feel sorry for the words.

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