[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Norman changed his mind?

2011-05-26 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: http://normanrosenthal.com/blog/why-i-changed-my-mind-and-wrote-transcendence-healing-and-transformation-through-transcendental-meditation.html Actually, it was for me a rediscovery, since I had first learned TM back in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
Pile on? Vaj has simply been exposed as a liar. Not sure what standard you look for in evaluating statements. But Vaj made a series of assertions and all of them turned out to be false. When asked to back up these assertions, the best he could come up with, was he heard it from someone ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Pile on? Vaj has simply been exposed as a liar. Not sure what standard you look for in evaluating statements. But Vaj made a series of assertions and all of them turned out to be false. Not true. What actually

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread whynotnow7
Comparing the facts of richardnelson108, based on actual events he witnessed with Vaj's imaginings, and you call them equivalent? You recently said I had the intellectual depth of a turnip. I'm sorry but I cannot even grant you that much mental capacity. Your shriveled heart and blinding ego

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and Satyanand: Comments on Enlightenment Afterlife

2011-05-26 Thread shanti2218411
I guess what I want to say is that from my point of view in enlightenment the question of what happens to the body(subtle/gross) becomes irrelevant b/c the SELF no longer experiences itself as being bounded i.e having a body.OTOH,after enlightenment, the SELF continues to have an experience

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Pile on? Vaj has simply been exposed as a liar. Not sure what standard you look for in evaluating statements. But Vaj made a series of assertions and all of them turned out to be false. When asked to back up

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 26, 2011, at 6:19 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Pile on? Vaj has simply been exposed as a liar. Not sure what standard you look for in evaluating statements. But Vaj made a series of assertions and all of them

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
Here are Richard's facts, Jim, or at least all the ones I've seen lately~~perhaps you could post the ones I've missed: Hi, Richard here. Since this was originally written to me, I thought I would chime in. I will take responsibility for adding my negative comments about Vaj where they were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread whynotnow7
Not only unverifiable claims, but almost hysterical ones at that. C'mon kiddies. I have been on this list for about 5 years. During that time Vaj *(Steve F.) has slandered Maharishi continuously with not a shred of evidence, presenting everything he says as above reproach. He has also slung

[FairfieldLife] Kathryn Bigelow to make movie about killing of Osama bin La

2011-05-26 Thread merudanda
And I thought it is over- let this cup pass from me;... All the sets for the film conveniently designed for adaptation to an upcoming video game?Does it comes after a computer game add-on for popular first-person shooter Counter Strike that was shared on the internet this month to allow

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread whynotnow7
Wow - what a double standard, Sal! Barry puts out over two thousand pages of insults on this forum per year. Vaj less so, but still an impressive number. Richardnelson108 writes a few paragraphs and you are up in arms? Hypocrite. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
As I understand it Richard Nelson's sources were first hand sources who acutally were in a position to know some of the details which were alleged to have taken place. Richard says he spoke directly with the lawyer who handled SBS's will, and traveled to some of various places at issue and spoke

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
Sal, I will be glad to do this. But I will have to do it this evening when I have some time and if someone doesn't do it before then. The question will then be, are YOU willing to look at the evidence in any kind of objective way, or simply dismiss it as just some subjective view point? I have

[FairfieldLife] Brahm...er...s!

2011-05-26 Thread cardemaister
http://www.tm.org/blog/people/brahms/ Brahms – In tune with the Infinite by CRAIG PEARSON, PH.D. on MAY 10, 2011 Johannes Brahms 1833–1897 • Germany In his early teens, to support his family, Brahms earned money playing in dance halls and inns around the docks in Hamburg — the same area

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On May 26, 2011, at 6:19 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Pile on? Vaj has simply been exposed as a liar. Not sure what standard you look for in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread feste37
Have you even read the posts by Richard you quote here? He presents a very strong case against all the accusations made by Vaj. Read it. All you do is try to smear him as unstable, which is plainly not the case. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: As I understand it Richard Nelson's sources were first hand sources who acutally were in a position to know some of the details which were alleged to have taken place. In other words, EXACTLY the same as Vaj's. His

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 26, 2011, at 7:32 AM, seventhray1 wrote: As I understand it Richard Nelson's sources were first hand sources who acutally were in a position to know some of the details which were alleged to have taken place. Is that anything like Christian groups who go to Israel and speak with people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 26, 2011, at 7:41 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Sal, I will be glad to do this. But I will have to do it this evening when I have some time and if someone doesn't do it before then. The question will then be, are YOU willing to look at the evidence in any kind of objective way, or simply

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: If this is what TM produces in the way of intellect, I am not impressed. I doubt lurkers here are, either. .. Not only unverifiable claims, but almost hysterical ones at that. Certainly angry ones, and out-of-control

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and Satyanand: Comments on Enlightenment Afterlife

2011-05-26 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: If the drop becomes the ocean, the drop is no more as a drop, it is completely recycled and uniformly distributed in the ocean, if we take the analogy a bit further. The specific individuality of the drop is gone. Try

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: If this is what TM produces in the way of intellect, I am not impressed. I doubt lurkers here are, either. .. Not only unverifiable claims, but almost

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Following is an interesting post to SeriousSeekers.com Fellow Graceful, Light Filled Seekers, I think I may have found IT -- the fastest

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
Well if yet more unverifiable claims~~ie opinions~~ are what constitutes a very strong case in *your* opinion, feste...I sure hope I never have you on my side of the defense table, so to speak. Sal On May 26, 2011, at 7:50 AM, feste37 wrote: Have you even read the posts by Richard you quote

[FairfieldLife] Re: On Israel - A Proud Day for Obama

2011-05-26 Thread WillyTex
Apparently President Obama's call for Israel to accept a peace agreement based on the 1967 armistice lines is not a new proposal - it's the same proposal presented by Bill Clinton in 2000. authfriend Again: NOBODY HAS SUGGESTED RETURNING TO THE 1967 BORDERS AS A SOLUTION. Not

[FairfieldLife] Re: On Israel - A Proud Day for Obama

2011-05-26 Thread WillyTex
Well, it looks like Obama wants to return to the 1949 border lines. authfriend: No, it doesn't look like that at all. yes, it looks like it - but the starting point for Hamas is that Israel does not exist, so that would make 1949 the starting point. The Gaza Strip continued

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: As I understand it Richard Nelson's sources were first hand sources who acutally were in a position to know some of the details which were alleged

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread WillyTex
feste37: Vaj reminds me of the wacko political right who will say anything to put their Democratic enemies in a bad light... Compared to the left-wing radicals on FFL, Vaj seems to be pretty mainstream - he can't stand people who take up for the Islamic terrorists. Where I come from,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On May 26, 2011, at 7:32 AM, seventhray1 wrote: As I understand it Richard Nelson's sources were first hand sources who acutally were in a position to know some of the details which were alleged to have taken place.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Pile on? Vaj has simply been exposed as a liar. Not sure what standard you look for in evaluating statements. But Vaj made a series of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: As I understand it Richard Nelson's sources were first hand sources who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On May 26, 2011, at 7:41 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Sal, I will be glad to do this. But I will have to do it this evening when I have some time and if someone doesn't do it before then. The question will then be, are YOU

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Following is an interesting post to SeriousSeekers.com Fellow Graceful, Light

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 26, 2011, at 10:16 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Sal, It seems to me that our whole legal system is based on trying to arrive at the truth. It is, but this is just a discussion. So, whether it is a legal issue or a philosophical issue, I feel like I would like to arrive at what might be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Some reply comments to this post at SeriousSeekeers.com #1 I checked out FFL as you suggested. Wow, I never knew what Ekhart Tolle meant by pain body

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread emptybill
In reality there is no truth. There is no truth in reality. There is no reality that can be true. There is only opinion. All opinions are equal in value. You are a troll. Vaj is a troll. You support each other in trollness. You opinions don't matter here. Your opinions don't matter at all.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Following is an interesting post to SeriousSeekers.com Fellow Graceful, Light Filled Seekers, I think I may have found IT -- the fastest

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
You've been harping on this one for years lurk.. it evidently got to you. So sure, go ahead and bring up the claim and show me how wrong I was. Sal On May 26, 2011, at 10:25 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Sal, if you wish me to bring up an instance where you called me a gulliable fool, or idiot for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Funny stuff, Tart. I particularly liked Are they all ex postal employees? because the most rational and restrained person on the forum these days *is* an ex US Postal Service employee. :-) We never hear from lurkers.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Ravi Yogi
I'm going to channel my inner Judy now..a poor imitation of her but I will try.. Look how Turqster, the trickster spins his deception. Now he says it's all opinion, both Vaj and Richardson are stating opinions and he doesn't side with either of them when he clearly sides with the liar Vaj, one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: You've been harping on this one for years lurk.. it evidently got to you. So sure, go ahead and bring up the claim and show me how wrong I was. Sal, Sorry I'm not biting. It did not get to me. But I am not going to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/26/2011 09:07 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@... wrote: Funny stuff, Tart. I particularly liked Are they all ex postal employees? because the most rational and restrained person on the forum these days *is* an ex US Postal Service

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: I am think of starting a skype interview site like Rick Bat Shit Crazy interviewing TMers and those of related paths. Q: So from your bio, it looks like when you were younger you were pretty normal A: Yes, I was petty

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: In reality there is no truth. There is no truth in reality. There is no reality that can be true. There is only opinion. All opinions are equal in value. You are a troll. Vaj is a troll. You support each other in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Afterlife

2011-05-26 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/25/2011 12:26 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@... wrote: Inspired by David Eagleman's Sum, I thought I'd spend some time pondering what the Afterlife will be like for each of us here at Fairfield Life. This is just for fun, and written off

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: In reality there is no truth. There is no truth in reality. There is no reality that can be true. There is only opinion. All opinions are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 05/26/2011 09:07 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@ wrote: Funny stuff, Tart. I particularly liked Are they all ex postal employees? because the most rational and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread emptybill
They have replied to you so they could respond to your previous postings. This encourages you but also gives the false impression that people really care about what you say. Those people your quote on FFL believe that your statements need countering but in the world of no truth, no reality what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: In reality there is no truth. There is no truth in reality. There is no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: In reality

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread whynotnow7
Three guesses who this is: I read your posts Jim, I never read your posts Jim!!, I read your posts Jim, I never read your posts Jim!!, I read your posts Jim, I never read your posts Jim!!, I read your posts Jim, I never read your posts Jim!!, I read your posts Jim, I never read your posts

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread richardnelson108
To clarify, I met with the Supreme Court of Allahabad retired judge who handled Guru Dev's will (not a lawyer). And yes, he was alive and kicking and quite brilliant. And, oh yes, he remembered all the details quite clearly. This was in 1995. The point I was trying to make, and I will repeat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: Turq, I don't know why you continue lumping me with others. You know how much I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread whynotnow7
I just enjoy tossing your insults right back at 'cha, Bozotronic Barry. I guess you enjoy being insulted. Karma's a bitch. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: In reality there is no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/26/2011 10:23 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 05/26/2011 09:07 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@ wrote: Funny stuff, Tart. I particularly liked Are they all ex postal employees?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread whynotnow7
Ha-Ha! Why do you think the initials of the Cannabis Cup are CC? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 05/26/2011 10:23 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 05/26/2011 09:07 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardnelson108 richardnelson108@... wrote: As I have also said, if he or anyone else has issues with MMY, thats fine with me. But if he is going to quote supposed events to make his point, then use real events, not something he made up. I am just trying to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 26, 2011, at 1:04 PM, richardnelson108 wrote: To clarify, I met with the Supreme Court of Allahabad retired judge who handled Guru Dev's will (not a lawyer). And yes, he was alive and kicking and quite brilliant. And, oh yes, he remembered all the details quite clearly. This was in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
Sal On May 26, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: take offense when Vaj repeatedly makes reference to something that never appears to have happened to make his opinion right. As I have also said, if he or anyone else has issues with MMY, thats fine with me. But if he is going to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread whynotnow7
I agree completely. It is pretty obvious that Vaj, Bozotronic Barry and Sal are trying their best to enforce a double standard here. Anytime anyone says something positive about TM or Maharishi, they need a brief worthy of Supreme Court scrutiny in order to be believed by the naysayers.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I, at least, understand the difference between a source and a claim of a source. You clearly do not. I don't know what burden of proof you are looking for. Evidently it's pretty high. But I think in most instances we don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On May 26, 2011, at 1:04 PM, richardnelson108 wrote: To clarify, I met with the Supreme Court of Allahabad retired judge who handled Guru Dev's will (not a lawyer). And yes, he was alive and kicking and quite

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: It's also India, where people will say anything rather than deal with unpleasantness. Sounds like you feel for it hook, line and stinker. And now you feel people should accord your words magic powers and not question

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
All fine except the person Richard Nelson is referencing was connected to SBS, not Maharishi. So where's the motive to put a positive spin on it especially when according to Vaj, those closest to SBS absolutely despised MMY? But I guess you can arrange facts in any way you want. This person

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: All fine except the person Richard Nelson is referencing was connected to SBS, not Maharishi. So where's the motive to put a positive spin on it especially when according to Vaj, those closest to SBS absolutely

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 26, 2011, at 3:02 PM, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: It's also India, where people will say anything rather than deal with unpleasantness. Sounds like you feel for it hook, line and stinker. And now you feel people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 26, 2011, at 2:53 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: I agree completely. It is pretty obvious that Vaj, Bozotronic Barry and Sal are trying their best to enforce a double standard here. Yes we are Jim...and if it weren't for your razor-sharp mind, we'd have gotten away with it. Anytime anyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread whynotnow7
Sal, I honestly don't see the value in mental masturbation (or the other kind) that you, Bozotronic Barry and Vaj do. Different strokes for different folks I guess.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On May 26, 2011, at 2:53 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread WillyTex
Turquoiseb: The reality of FFL is that since the beginning of this posting week, five posters (Judy, Jim, Willytex, Nabby, and Ravi) have made 62 posts either insulting me, trying to refute something I said, or otherwise putting me down... In 1989, Rama justified to the disciples his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread richardnelson108
You are right. I did not give a name. Unfortuneatly, I do not remember it. It was in Allahabad at the Kumbha Mela in 1995. And regarding everyone wanting to sweep this under the rug, that is possible, however doubtful as the various people I spoke to are not all connected. For example, the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 26, 2011, at 3:18 PM, turquoiseb wrote: Steve, I give up. Same here. I think i'm discussing one thing... and then it turns out I'm doing this, requiring that, etc. It seems like I'm always trying to pull some kind of rabbit out of a hat, according to Steve. Apparently having a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
Well here is the corpus. One can draw whatever conclusons one wants. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardnelson108 richardnelson108@... wrote: You are right. I did not give a name. Unfortuneatly, I do not remember it. It was in Allahabad at the Kumbha Mela in 1995. And regarding

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 25, 2011, at 10:04 PM, emptybill wrote: I'm selling the idea as a genuine return to an old world charm for imported nath-yogis, which V claims to be. A real old world charm a la the Nathas would be ashes.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 7:00 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Pile on? Vaj has simply been exposed as a liar. Not sure what standard you look for in evaluating statements. But Vaj made a series of assertions and all of them turned out to be false. When asked to back up these assertions, the best he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: That's what it seems to me as well~~ if there were some posts made which in any way proved Vaj's assertions to be false, or even dealt with them on any kind of level other than pseudo- hysteria, I haven't seen them. Perhaps lurk could

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 8:32 AM, seventhray1 wrote: As I understand it Richard Nelson's sources were first hand sources who acutally were in a position to know some of the details which were alleged to have taken place. Richard says he spoke directly with the lawyer who handled SBS's will,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 8:50 AM, feste37 wrote: Have you even read the posts by Richard you quote here? He presents a very strong case against all the accusations made by Vaj. Read it. All you do is try to smear him as unstable, which is plainly not the case. What part of drooling TB don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread richardnelson108
Hey Vaj, I am NOT a TB. And I have read Judith's book. TM works for me and I value what is has given me. Thats all. And what you don't seem to ever want to admit is that TM and MMY may have some value for some people. It seems like that possibility does not exist for you. One does not have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On May 26, 2011, at 8:32 AM, seventhray1 wrote: As I understand it Richard Nelson's sources were first hand sources who acutally were in a position to know some of the details which were alleged to have taken place.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 7:19 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Pile on? Vaj has simply been exposed as a liar. Not sure what standard you look for in evaluating statements. But Vaj made a series of assertions and all of them

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardnelson108 richardnelson108@... wrote: Hey Vaj, I am NOT a TB. And I have read Judith's book. TM works for me and I value what is has given me. Thats all. And what you don't seem to ever want to admit is that TM and MMY may have some value

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardnelson108 richardnelson108@... wrote: Hey Vaj, I am NOT a TB. And I have read Judith's book. TM works for me and I value what is has given me. Thats all. And what you don't seem to ever want to admit is that TM and MMY may have some value

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread whynotnow7
Are all Buddhists attention whores, or just you?:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On May 26, 2011, at 8:32 AM, seventhray1 wrote: As I understand it Richard Nelson's sources were first hand sources who acutally were in a position to know some of the

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-05-26 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat May 21 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat May 28 00:00:00 2011 738 messages as of (UTC) Thu May 26 23:55:02 2011 63 authfriend jst...@panix.com 60 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 57 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 52

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 7:40 PM, wayback71 wrote: I guess it depends on how you define TB. In my version, a TB would never ever go attempt to find out more about the rumors of the murder of Guru Dev. TB's refuse to think about such info for more than a few seconds before relegating the bad

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2011, at 7:34 PM, richardnelson108 wrote: I am NOT a TB. And I have read Judith's book. TM works for me and I value what is has given me. Thats all. And what you don't seem to ever want to admit is that TM and MMY may have some value for some people. Well one unfortunate

[FairfieldLife] signs and wonders at the Bethel Church

2011-05-26 Thread Yifu
Redding, Ca: (Angel feathers for example) http://www.redding.com/news/2010/jan/19/bethels-signs-and-wonders-include-angel-feathers/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread feste37
Same advice to you: read the posts rather than attempting another pitiful smear. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On May 26, 2011, at 8:50 AM, feste37 wrote: Have you even read the posts by Richard you quote here? He presents a very strong case against

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread richardnelson108
Thanks for giving me the post # on mahapatra. I can't really comment on it much. Some of it (about MMY's health) does match with what he told me. I can only say that he had only positive things to say about MMY, how much he loved him and how much teaching TM meant to him. He was clearly moved by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2011-05-26 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Manual count for some of you: 60 Yifu yifuxero@... 48 that includes the one post made after the Post Count 57 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 47 52

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Read: Vaj has corrected the historical record and placed Mahesh in his proper context: a crook and a molester of women. and whatever else may suit Vaj's fancy at the moment.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: What part of drooling TB don't you understand? Thank goodness for good 'ol name calling. Far better than using credible sources to make your point.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardnelson108 richardnelson108@... wrote: Now can someone tell me what the reference to Mahapatra is about? He is someone I have spent some time with, so I would like to know what he supposedly said according to the Vaj man. Then I can weigh in on what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread emptybill
Some Nath-s and most Aghori-s claim their vibhuti is left over from charnel fires but that is just b.s. Charnel ashes come from the wood used as combustion for burning. The bodies themselves do not produce ashes. Since I had my wife's body cremated and have examined the residues (burned at 17oo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: Go to post #48039 for the Mahapatra info Not a very flattering account.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2011-05-26 Thread Bhairitu
Looks like a Yahoo burp. On 05/26/2011 07:19 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCountffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Manual count for some of you: 60 Yifuyifuxero@... 48 that includes the one post made

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 26, 2011, at 9:45 PM, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: What part of drooling TB don't you understand? Thank goodness for good 'ol name calling. Far better than using credible sources to make your point. Right~~credible sources on a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting little story about Balraj Maharishi

2011-05-26 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On May 26, 2011, at 9:45 PM, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: What part of drooling TB don't you understand? Thank goodness for good 'ol name calling. Far better than