Make sure you have a written outline (I know you do already) and then just
relax and stay very calm, no matter how outrageous they get. One of the more
difficult-to-do secrets of legal advocacy. I will be thinking of
you! Please let us know what happens.
Good luck,
Michelle
Oy veh. Well, it is really something that the hearing officer said
you should appeal it! Really-- that is quite something. I do think
you should appeal it, and I think you ought to call ALDF, tell them it came down
to the constitutionality of the pet limit law, and ask if they can find
I have been thinking about him. Symptoms any better?Did
the vet try the steroid shots? Any talk of using CCNU? Did the last chemo shot
(the one that starts with E, can't remember the name) do anything?
I am hoping for the best, but worried that things are bad since you have
not written.
Thinking of him and hoping he is still feeling better. Please give us an
update when you geta chance. Having been through the rollercoaster
of lymphoma several times, I really feel for you and Jen, who has Ewok, and
think about Buddha and Ewok multiple times throughout the day. I hope he
is
Erin,
I know this is not ideal, but can you divide your house and
keep Fingers but keep her separated from your other cat? I have 3 FeLV+
cats and one negative cat who I rescued, and my negative cat lives in our
bedroom, laundry room, and bathroom, which are connected and separated by a
Oh, Jen, I am so overjoyed to hear he is feeling better and that you have
him with you there and he is having such a good time!! I was really worried that
your not having emailed meant he was doing worse. It is so, so great that
you have a vet who was willing to give you a dex shot to take
One thing I always question myself about is whether it was worth letting
Simon go through the very rough days he went through at times during those two
months in order to have the good days he had during that period. While he
was alive it definitely seemed worth it, but since then I have
I am in Morris county, but I grew up in Somerset County. Where in Somerset
are you? My mom uses the Martinsville Animal Clinic. She completely
loves one of the three vets there, the only woman, I think her name is Dr.
Caille (pronounced kay-lee, I think). She is only there one day per week,
You can call the Martinsville Animal Hospital and ask if they carry it. if
they do, it is probably about a 20 minute ride for you.
I was born and lived my first seven years in Branchburg, by the way!
Michelle
In a message dated 12/22/2005 7:28:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL
Tonya,
The only way something like this would go to the federal
level, probably, is if every level of a state court upheld the law and it was
appealed to the U.S. Supreme court on federal constitutional grounds. It
would be possible to sue a city in federal court to begin with on federal
Please see my email about this. Hideyo has the one ALDF attorney in
Albuquerque at this point.
Michelle
In a message dated 12/23/2005 10:08:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do you guys think about us all contacting ALDF on Hideyo's
behalf? I know I could
It apparently has been pushed to that level in some states-- ALDF sent
Hideyo a decision from an appeals court in PA finding a local pet limit
ordinance unconstitutional, and there are some from other states also. But
there are many different forms of pet limit ordinances, and some are
Your vet seems good. However, knowing the FeLV status will not help you
treat this. FeLV itself is not a diagnosis regarding the anemia. It might
be the reason your boy got whatever he has that is causing the anemia, but that
is not so relevant now. What is relevant is whether the anemia is
Jen, I am so glad he is doing well! Dex is really an amazing drug, in
terms of how fast it makes them feel better. I am so glad your vet gave you a
shot to take with you. I never heard of Ceenu, so am not sure it is
CCNU. If it isn't, I would love to hear more about it and file the info in
Oh, my God, Gloria! I am so, so, so sorry. How scary and horrible. I'm sorry.
Michelle
In a message dated 12/30/2005 5:24:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would you add Pansy to the Bridge list? I took her to the vet this morning to be spayed. When I called this
Dawn,
Charlie is beautiful. I recommend that you also join the
feline lymphoma group, which I think is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_lymphoma.
They are extremely knowledgeable about lymphoma and chemotherapy.
Welcome,
Michelle
Click here:
Feline Miliary Dermatitis ~ Pawprints and Purrs, Inc.
FYI re: skin disorders, I found this while looking up something
else...
Michelle
Bleinda,
I am one of the people who has been praising Immuno-regulin,
but I used it for difficult URI's, not anemia. Someone else on the list had luck
with it raising the WBC count. But the article by Dr. Lees on the website
says that he has used it successfully with very anemic positives,
I do not understand why pred would make anemia worse-- they often give
steroids to make anemia better. The only thing I can think of with anemia
that steroids would make worse is if it is caused by a bacteria like
hemobartanella.
I would guess, with Fu's kidney failure, that the anemia is
It's not that it is a symptom of FeLV, but it can be a symptom of
mediastinal lymphoma (lymphoma that starts in the lymph node in the chest), to
which FeLV+ cats are prone (but other cats get it as well). The thing I do
not like about what the vet did is that if it is mediastinal lymphoma,
I had a similar situation with Buddy bullying Simon, both of whom were
FeLV+ and sort of confined (at the time they lived in a furnished garage
apartment with a fenced in yard and cat door, so it was not a small space, but
still somewhat confined). He really terrified and bullied Simon.
Yes, I think that might help too.
In a message dated 1/3/2006 6:18:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
– I am
also thinking it’s a territorial thing as Tsubomi wants to claim that the top
of the tower is hers – do you think having another cat tower will help,
15 is low, but not deathly low. It depends on how fast it is
dropping. Kerry's Bandy was down to 17, I think, and is back up to 32
through a combination of folic acid and some other supplements, and I think he
was on Epogen for a while. Did you save the post with all her recommendations? I
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Hi, I have read your post and thought I would send you the info on what I am doing for Bandy who is Felv and FIV+. He has anemia due to the Felv.. I am giving him Folic acid with every meal...I sprinkle it on his food so it is really hard to tell how much he is getting..I
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Hi everyone, Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and your kitties are doing good. Bandy's last blood work was in Oct..PCV 27 and weight 7.1#..so week before Christmas it was 32 and weight was 8.2#...His vet couldn't believe it...and I was a little nervous about having
I know. When Simon needed to go into the hospital, they would not admit him without me paying half the estimate, and there was not enough room on our credit card for it. Luckily my mom was able and willing to give me her credit card number for it. It was very scary feeling, though, until she
Belinda, sending positive thoughts. Might it be useful to try the folic acid that seems to help Bandy so much? I have no idea what the cause of Bandy's anemia was or if it was nonregenerative, but I was very impressed by his progress.
Michelle
Yes, I know that dilemma all too well.
Prayers and warm thoughts,
Michelle
In a message dated 1/4/2006 12:02:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michelle, Thank you for finding Kerry's post's, I'm going to print them out and take them to my vet to look over, Bailey gets
Hi. X-rays canoften show tumors, though not always.
Ultrasound can when x-rays can't, but is way more expensive. The dex/depo
shot is given as needed. Depending on how early in the cancer you start,
they can sometimes go a month in-between shots at first. It gets less and and
less time
My understanding is that it is a synthetic version of a hormone that the
kidneys normally excrete which tells the bone marrow to produce red blood cells.
If the hormone is low, the bone marrow stops producing. The epogen
replaces the hormone and sends a signal to the bone marrow to start
I was already fretting about Patches because she has been having a little
trouble eating and the gums above her two broken canines are really swollen, so
I made an appointment with a dentist for her tomorrow and was pretty sure he was
going to say they have to come out. She is FeLV+ and at
Thanks, Gloria. That really does help. I just have become so
paranoid and fatalistic from losing so many animals in the last few years, that
statistics like the one the vet citedjust put me over the edge a little
bit.
But Gray showed me that the vet also has a chart in the office, put out
Wendy, I can't believe you have the energy to send prayers and try to talk
me out of anxiety when you are going through what you are going through with
Stretch. Thank you.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/4/2006 3:14:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hey
Michelle,I
Look at the email about Bandy. I think she said she gives him 800
micrograms (smaller than miligrams) but am not sure.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/4/2006 3:27:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I bought
some folic acid for Fu; I called the the vet who said just
Belinda,
Have you tried B12 shots? These sometimes help with appetite
and weight loss. Also, is he on periactin? Have you tried the liver shake recipe
with him?
It might also be worth asking for a dexamethasone shot.
That sometimes jump starts them eating, and sometimes also helps with
Jen,
SO glad to hear Ewok is still doing well!! Simon responded
very well to the CCNU also. After that he got Adriamycin, which he did not
respond well to, and I wished I had asked the oncologist to give him more CCNU
instead. I think the oncologist was afraid that without switching the
Wendy,
Such good news about Stretch! When Patches had
pneumonia, she was not coughing or anything, just hunched up and looked like she
felt really sick. She may have had some mucous around her nose, but that's it. I
took her to the emergency vet and she had pneumonia. She got Baytril and
Bonnie,
Ask your vet about giving him a dexamethasone shot. It really
makes them feel better, even when they are really sick. And sometimes
helps with anemia. It may be contraindicated because of his kidney and thyroid
problems, though, I don't know.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/5/2006
Chandra,
When you did not write back I feared he was not doing
well. I am so very sorry. I know the grief is excruciating. And yes,
you were lucky to have him in your life for 14 years.
Michelle
Hideyo, this is so absolutely amazing!! Yay!! And you have helped others
too!
Michelle
No, you were the one trying to change the ordinance. All I really did was
give you tips for a hearing that you lost, and for a court case that never
materialized, and helped find Merry. I am so happy for you, though.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/6/2006 3:42:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Jen,
You might want to stop the pred and give dex/depo shots
instead. The depo is instead of pred, and is stronger and longer lasting.
The fact that Ewok went two weeks or so without needing another depo shot says
to me that he is not near the end yet. I would strongly suggest, if he is
I have been thinking a lot about Fu, and I read the info on the site,
emailed by someone else, saying that Tapazol can cause anemia and kidney damage.
I am thinking there is a good chance that this is what has happened to Fu.
I am wondering if it would make sense to decrease or stop the
I should have said in the last email that I meant to talk to the vet
about it, or to people on the feline hyper-t group, not to just stop it because
it may need to be tapered or may not be possible at all.
Michelle
Not any better though?
Michelle
In a message dated 1/6/2006 10:19:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michelle,Fu's been off the tapazole for about two days now, at the
vet's suggestion.Thanks for thinking of
him.Bonnie
I think, but am not positive, that it normally takes months for an adverse
reaction to occur. But I would be afraid that any medicine could have an
adverse reaction on Fu, given his age and condition. However, Epogen also
takes a while to show any good effects, and Fu is already doing so
I know. Every time someone on the list has lymphoma or anemia, I think I
need to get off the list because it depresses me so much. But I learn so much
from the group, and it helped so much to have people there for me when I went
through it with Simon, that I just can't.
Michelle
P.S. And I
HI, Belinda. Yes, fluids do thin the blood and worsen the effects of
anemia. They are still necessary sometimes, though, if they are not
drinking, though if he has no kidney or liver problems and you are syringing
food he probably can do without fluids for a few days, I would think.
Have
Well, Patches was hardly eating this morning. She wanted food, but would
just lick at it a little and walk away. I am assuming the problem is her broken
teeth that are coming out on Wednesday, as one of the gums is swollen to about
twice its size. In order to get her to eat an acceptable
It's Dexamethasone, and it's a very strong, fast-acting steroid that works
within hours and is out of the body in 24 hours. It shrinks lymphoma, helps with
anemia caused by an auto-immune response (killing own rbc's) or lymphoma,
increases appetite, takes down inflammation, reduces pain,
Yes, Merry, Hideyo's attorney, called me yesterday to tell me what her
hopes are for the case (I had referred Hideyo to her) and said she was so glad
that I referred Hideyo to her because she had seen several people harrassed by
animal control in Albuquerque into giving up their cats and
Dexamethasone. It does come in pills, but the shots work faster and
better in my opinion, though harder to keep them on long-term. The shots can be
given sub-q, so if your vet will give you the shot you can give it to Fu
yourself. It is possible she will only be willing to send you home
the raw diet is supposed to help with cystitis and struvite crystals. I am
about to try it with Lucy for chronic loose stools, and am thinking of trying it
with Patches after her surgery (knock on wood) for her urinary tract
problems.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/7/2006 3:45:55 P.M.
Look in the archives for recent postings about anemia from kerry who has
Bandy. She has used a combination of medications and natural supplements to help
him, pretty successfully so far. Folic acid (I think 800 mcg a day--
that's micrograms, not miligrams) was one of them, but there were a
Unlike with humans, most anemia in cats is not related to poor iron
absorption. Most cats with anemia are absorbing enough iron but having trouble
with their bone marrow or their kidneys or their spleen. While feeding
some liver should not hurt (though be careful because cats can get
No offense taken. Merry and I actually talked for a while about this very
thing-- how the city attorney and the city council started acting differently
once Merry announced to them she was going to take the case and put together a
team of lawyers to fight it. She said the "team" was going
Janine,
I had just received Feline Futures raw food supplement mix in
the mail when you sent that email, and started transitioning them to raw
today. I had heard it helps with cystitis and struvite crystals, which
patches has, as well as loose stool, which Lucy has. Patches also is having a
Janine, one question: I use slippery elm often for stomach and intestinal
upsets, but have never used it for urinary tract upsets. It doesn't make
the ph of the urine more basic? Patches has really high ph-- 8.5, much too
basic.
Thanks,
Michelle
Thanks for all the info. If that is true about stress making the ph higher,
then that could be an explanation with Patches. Her teeth are hurting her
terribly (so much she is on narcotic shots twice a day until her dental surgery
on Wednesday). I thought it was just a bad coincidence that
Hideyo, we are so much alike. Someone I worked with actually said that this
is my weakness as well as my strength, in those very words. I think it makes me
a good lawyer, but I do not always get along with people all that well!
Michelle
In a message dated 1/9/2006 12:09:11 P.M. Eastern
I was hoping that your working with Merry would lead to you and her teaming
up on that too. That's great.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/9/2006 12:32:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I also told Merry
that I would like help TNR ordinance to get into the new
Oh, Jen. I am so sorry. I have been there, and it is the worst thing
ever. I am assuming the stronger steroids means you just gave him a dex/depo
shot for the first time? You might be surprised; it might help for a
while. I am praying it does.
Love and prayers and thoughts,
Michelle
In a
Essiac tea is supposed to help, and I think it helped my dog Fern (though
she actually drank it from a bowl). Switching to an all meat diet is
supposed to slow the growth. I have heard that Winstrol, which is not
holistic but an anabolic steroid, helps keep appetite and fights muscle
I absolutely think it is safe to give him the combo shot. The depo will not
actually kick in for a couple of days, and I know from experience with Simon
that you can give a dex shot two days in a row (I think I gave it to him three
days in a row when I thought he was dying the first time).
Yes, 1/2 cc of each. That is what the vet who taught me about it does. But
I think the oncologist gave Simon 1 cc of each, since 1 cc is the normal dose
for giving each individually, and it certainly did not hurt him. But I think I
would try 1/2 cc of each first, especially since he just
Jen, I did not even know it came in two strengths, so I have no idea. I'm
sorry.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/10/2006 10:08:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michelle--I forgot to ask you about this last time...but when my
vetfirst gave him the combo shot, she
As close together as they are needed. Towards the end it will be
every few days. But he might not need them that close together yet, or he
may need the combo shot now and a dex booster in a few days and not need depo
for a week. It kind of just depends on how he is doing. Basically, I would
Also Felliway diffusers and spray.
In a message dated 1/10/2006 6:19:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Try
Rescue Remedy. Are they all spayed/neutered? If not, that might
help.
No, don't give him the pred. The dex should be enough for the next 24 hours
or so, and the depo should start kicking in after that. How is he doing? If he
perks up and then falls again before the depo kicks in, or if he does not perk
up at all, I would probably try giving him some. But you
Great! Fingers Crossed!
Yes, my Josephine had a tumor in her belly too, and a few hours after a dex
shot it would be visibly smaller.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/10/2006 9:58:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi
Michelle! Thanks for that...so far, so good...I
Yay! A big bowl of baby food (she felt very lucky, since she usually only
gets a dollop with her supplements!) and a little wet food. And then ran
around playing. Not sure what the deal is, but I am happy she ate.
Now off to the dentist with Patches for her surgery!
Michelle
Hi. My mom has been feeding a feral for about 2 years at her house. She has been talking about trapping him/her for a long time but hasn't, and hasn't wanted me to (it seems like the cat may already be neutered, as no visible testicles and does not act like a female or get pregnant). Anyway, the
Thanks, Wendy! How is Stretch doing?
Michelle
Thanks, Belinda. I have a vet appointment for her tomorrow, and I was going
to get blood work, but I was thinking of holding off. Now I think I should take
her, right?
I have her clindamycin liquid today and she gagged and threw up right
away. She then ate a little and held it down, so I
Flax oil is supposedly very unstable and that's why they sell it in dark
bottles, so I would not keep it for more than a day. If you need to blend
more than one day's worth, I think I would throw the extra out (or give it to
someone else in the house, as it is good for anyone) and start
Sending prayers and good thoughts...
Michelle
I second this feeling, especially having just tried the IBD group, which is
nothing like this group and I have already unsubscribed. Thanks for being such a
great group of people.
Michelle
I am so sorry.
Michelle
Del, you have been through so much. I am so sorry. Our cat Arthur, at
my mom's, died the same way.
Michelle
Jen, what an incredible dream. I have heard that when people have
dreams like that it is the person coming back from the dead to let you know they
are ok. I had a dream like that about my horse Shire a few days after his
death, and it comforted me greatly for a while.
Michelle
I am so sorry.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/14/2006 5:23:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
sad news-
Tiggie died yesterday, surrounded by loving humans, her 2 vets and
myself.
She went downhill very fast by the time I got her to our vet, she was
on
Thanks, Tonya. That does make me feel a little better. She only vomited
right after eating. She then wanted to be fed again!
I have not fed her for about 10 hours now. I think I am going to wait until
the morning. So you think if she vomits after getting a little food in the
morning I
I'm vegan so the only meat products I have are for my cats, and chicken
broth hasn't been something I have thought to stock. A lot of vet websites
on vomiting say to fast for 24 hours. I don't know if she has been drinking, but
if she has she has not been vomiting it. She does not seem
Ah, but that was Patches who just had surgery last week. Lucy had bladder
surgery over 2 months ago. It has been anything but boring here,
unfortunately.
So did your ibd guy throw up repeatedly and only stop with reglan? How long
would you have to give him reglan for, and could you tell
Lucy has not been diagnosed with ibd, but it is what I suspect (and hope,
alternative being lymphoma, but the soft stool issue started almost 3 months
ago, which isa long time ago for lymphoma).
Anyway, she held down a little cooked turkey for an hour this morning so I
gave her more, that
Thanks, Nina. I just got this email this morning. I did fast her
overnight, and she was HUNGRY this morning. I fed her three small meals of
cooked turkey in its broth, an hour apart, and so far so good, knock on wood (I
went downstairs to check for vomit again in the middle of that
She lost 1 lb, not 2. She does not feel dehydrated, and I am giving
her a lot of broth now with her little turkey meals.
Thanks,
Michelle
In a message dated 1/17/2006 12:58:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michelle, I hope she
continues to get better – I am
Nina, you should definitely post on the 2 yahoo FIV lists. I found a
home for Charlie, from the shelter, that way (though we had to drive him to VA
from MA!)
Michelle
I do that too. My sheep's acupuncture vet told me yesterday that
sometimes the hardest thing to do is nothing, but sometimes it is the right
thing and that I have problems doing that.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/17/2006 4:33:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nina
I know. I hate that Quincy is confined that way in my house. But I do not
know what else to do. I do not want to mix my positives and him, but even
if I did he can not be around other cats. The reason I have him is that my
friend rescued him but he bit a hole through one of her cat's tail
I am hoping too. Bailey has been such an inspiration to all of
us. I have found dexamethasone to be helpful with anemia where it is
caused by lymphoma-- in combo with chemo.Kerry had luck with it with
Bandy too, incombo with all that other stuff.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/17/2006
Belinda, just as a pep talk-- Simon's HCT went down to 13 from lymphoma and
then back up to 32 with steroids and chemo. He died two months later from
anemia, but that final anemia came on suddenly and the oncologist said it was an
auto-immune response to the cancer (or maybe the chemo). But
Thanks, Tonya. That's exactly what I've done today, and so far so
good. She finally seems full and did not want the last bowl of turkey and
broth I offered her. She gained some of the weight back already. knock on
wood.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/17/2006 6:42:27 P.M. Eastern Standard
Yes, that definitely describes Charlie. But he is also very meek--
he's this HUGE cat and one time a little twerpy pipsqueak kitten who was about 3
months old and very small ran over and hit him on the head and he actually
cowered. He is the biggest pacifist I know. The woman who adopted
Kerry, is Bandy FeLV+ too?
Patches, who is FeLV+, tested FIV+ at her last vet visit as well.
Hideyo said it could be a false positive.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/18/2006 9:52:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Nina,
I have read some post about Starman
Neil,
Kerry's cat Bandy went from a fairly low HCT back up to
32 from being on a combination of meds and supplements. If no one has forwarded
you one of the emails describing Bandy's regimen I can forward it to you, since
I saved it.
It kind of depends on the cause of the anemia. If it
It sounds like her anemia is nonregenerative. Which to me means one of two
things-- that it is lymphoma in her bone marrow, or that it is kidney-related
and epogen might help.
My Simon had lymphoma in his bone marrow, and chemotherapy along with some
heavy steroids when he first went out
I was wrong in one of the things I said in my last email, then. I hope it
is hemo.
Michelle
In a message dated 1/18/2006 3:31:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Neil, Hemo can be non-regenerative as well as
regenerative.
I doubt he has seroconverted, especially if he is still having anemia and
other problems. I would not do another FeLV test, at least not now. I
think that cats who seroconvert usually do so a little while after contracting
the virus, but I am not sure.
Michelle
In a message dated
I have been following this thread and wanted to say something, but I can
not figure out what it is that I want to say. I have longed for a sign
from mine also, and fear that the lack of a sign means either that there is
nothing after death or that they are mad at me for what I did or did
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