[Finale] MacFin04 install issues

2004-03-13 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Has anyone seen this? When I installed MacFin04 (finally) I get the following error message every time I start up: Extract Lyrics: Plugin icon missing: -1409 Also, I always have to go thru the Tips and MIDI Setup rigamarole, like it doesn't know how to save my settings. I know I should ask Mac

Re: [Finale] TAN: Running QuickKeys in Classic

2004-02-03 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I use a clean system folder for Classic for a number of reasons. Classic gave me nothing but trouble until I did this. It was excellent advice from (I believe) Darcy. I use several extension in OS9 that either don't work in Classic (like MacPortrait) or aren't needed (like MasterJuggler). A clea

[Finale] TAN: Running QuickKeys in Classic

2004-02-03 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I've been playing with Fin03 in Classic using the MidiBridge9X program for Midi, and I must say it works really well. The only thing keeping me in OS9 (beside screen rotation which I'm not using at the moment) is QuickKeys. Does anyone know if OS9 QuickKeys will work in Classic if I install the

Re: [Finale] Copying expressions

2003-10-11 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
If you are using Finale 2003 or higher, my Mass Copy plugin will do it, including correct transfers of the staff lists and This Staff Only designations. d. collins wrote: > Is there any way to copy a group of measure attached expressions (and only > that) from one file to another? > > Thanks, >

Re: [Finale] Extending 2ndary Beams

2003-10-10 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
David Bailey asked why I would use the Extend 2ndary Beams option. ("Why would you want to do that?": a question that, in computers, can lead to heads being bitten off.) The answer, of course, is for the many cases when one wants the behavior. The simplest example is 16th note, 16th rest, 16th n

[Finale] Extending 2ndary Beams

2003-10-10 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I routinely use the Extend Secondary Beams over Rests option, but it creates a most vexing problem. Consider the pattern 16th note, 16th rest, 8th note. If this falls withing a quarter beat, all three are beamed together. The problem is, the 16th beam extends all the way over the 16th rest. I ca

[Finale] trill playback

2003-10-10 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I have been under the impression that TGTools will create trill playback, but now I can't find it. (I found tremolo playback and I found trill paren notes, but no trill playback.) Have I missed something? ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: [Finale] MM response to query about non-transposing chord symbols

2003-10-10 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2003 06:13 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 'Finale List' > Subject: Re: [Finale] MM response to query about non-transposing chord symbols > > > On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 11:37 AM, Robert Patterson

Re: [Finale] MM response to query about non-transposing chord symbols

2003-10-10 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
ame > old problems. Someone please let me know if this latter problem has > been fixed, but I haven't seen that listed anywhere. > > Tim > > > On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 11:37 AM, Robert Patterson Finale > wrote: > > > You can do everything yo

Re: [Finale] MM response to query about non-transposing chord symbols

2003-10-09 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
You can do everything you need to with Key Sig transposition by combining with independent key signatures. For example, to set up an Alto Sax part, 1. Set the transposition on the staff to Eb Key Signature transposition. 2. Set Independent Elements Key Signatures. 3. Change the key signature of t

Re: [Finale] Using Finale on Mac with Protools 002

2003-10-07 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I have a Digi 002 Rack. I'm not sure what it is you are wanting to do. Is it just to use the Digi as a MIDI interface for Finale? If so, I would recommend waiting for Finale 2004 (announced for the end of this month). The problem here is that Protools 6 (which is required for the 002R) only work

Re: [Finale] TAN: leger lines (was: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet)

2003-09-30 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I, too, have heard that many instrumentalists (specifically violinists) prefer leger lines to 8va symbols. I can accept this up to 5-leger-line (and a half) c4. Do players really prefer leger lines even higher? I'm currently working on a passage for violin that hangs around e4 (6 leger lines in

Re: [Finale] Glisses and Accis (was: The Joys of Custom Lines)

2003-09-29 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
First of all, check out the examples I cited before you knock it. (Bartok's 3rd Quartet is chock full of nearly every situation you can imagine.) Just because the lines pierce the noteheads does not mean they obscure the accis. Secondly, I find (for myself) that my intuitive sense of what ought

Re: [Finale] Glisses and Accis (was: The Joys of Custom Lines)

2003-09-29 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
This conversation begs the question of whether glisses even *should* avoid accis. In my editions of Bartok String Quartets, the glisses always pierce the noteheads, acci or no. I have actually added extensions to my custom lines to force them to do this, accis be damned. Augmentation dots are a

[Finale] TAN: Extension ranges on Barry Sax and Bass Clarinet

2003-09-27 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Andrew Stiller's instrumentation book gave the state-of-the-art c. 1979 for extensions as about 25% each of barry saxes and b. cls. have extension keys. (The barry sax to written low a, and the b. cl. to written low c.) I seem to remember on a discussion on this list that these extension keys ar

Re: [Finale] standard whole and half measure rest in 6/1

2003-09-27 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
In this case, common practice offers no obvious standard. I would probably extrapolate from the rules for 6/4. In 6/4, the whole measure rest is just a single whole rest while a half measure is half-plus-quarter or dotted half. Extrapolating for 6/1 would mean measure rest: quad-whole rest (i

[Finale] The Joys of Custom Lines

2003-09-26 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I sometimes have the impression that the Custom Line tool may be one of the most underused really powerful things in Finale. In an offline conversation with a Coda person, I complained that a major drawback of the CLT is that text (i.e., Left, Center Full, or Right) that is visible in a score co

[Finale] Re: Fixed Line Widths and System Scaling (DOH!)

2003-09-24 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Never mind. I was mistaken about staff height. The lines are scaled with staff height. I think I was fooled by a rounding error. So (those of us who care) do still need a fixed line width option. And I still don't know what Coda added staff height. -- Robert Patterson http://www.robertgpatters

[Finale] Fixed Line Widths and System Scaling

2003-09-24 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Someone (I believe it was Andrew) was asking for fixed line widths as a way of achieving more consistency between staves of different sizes on the same page. I recently discovered that Finale is already partway there. I've often wondered why Finale added the "Staff Height" option to system scali

Re: [Finale] Rotate this! Mega-monitors

2003-09-22 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I read a review of Versavision somewhere that claimed that the ATI panel for it is grayed out on G5's with 9800 graphics. Darcy James Argue wrote: > > On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 06:05 PM, Robert Patterson Finale wrote: > >> On the rotating-in-OSX front, the picture

Re: [Finale] Rotate this! Mega-monitors

2003-09-22 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I'm not sure I'd want to rotate these. My 24" one already requires a bit of neck craning. Also, it's not clear from the photos if you have to have separate video cards for each of the panels. It would be nice if you didn't. On the rotating-in-OSX front, the picture is not as rosy as I first thou

Re: [Finale] Staff names

2003-09-22 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Settings Scrapbook can transfer all the staves (including the names, position, etc.) between documents. It can also transfer the groups. d. collins wrote: > Is there any way (with one of Tobias's, or Jari's or Robert's plug-ins, > or otherwise) to transfer staff names with their font and positio

Re: [Finale] Page reduction vs. Staff reduction (again!)

2003-09-20 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
First of all, despite the subject heading, I am talking about *system* reduction and definitely not individual staff reduction. On a single staff piece, the only way to access system reduction is to right click or (mac) ctrl-click to the left of the staff in page view. I have an edition of The

Re: [Finale] Page reduction vs. Staff reduction (again!)

2003-09-20 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
On the topic of whether to convert old files from page to system, I said I don't advocate it, and I don't. But if you really wanted to convert, my Page Mover plugin will do it with a single button-click. (It automatically adjusts all your page text, too.) The thing is, unless you plan to use sys

Re: [Finale] Page reduction vs. Staff reduction (again!)

2003-09-20 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Erm. If you wanted to get the same results as page redux 80% using system redux, then you would set your page redux to 100% and system redux to 80% (not 75%). The effect on, e.g., lyrics would be identical. (Their effective size would be the same either way.) Old habits die hard, I know. Indee

Re: [Finale] Page reduction vs. Staff reduction (again!)

2003-09-19 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I, for one, have never advocated changing old files. I'm talking only about going forwards. David H. Bailey wrote: > So tell me again how that is easier than doing page reduction where all > that stuff is done automatically? -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com

Re: [Finale] Page reduction vs. Staff reduction (again!)

2003-09-18 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
The primary advantage is that scaling systems gives you precise control over system margins. Also, if you have varying system percentages, your page text remains the same size without the need for fixed font attributes. The problem with fixed font attributes is that when you want to produce a va

Re: [Finale] Mac related question

2003-09-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I can't speak to your specific question. I have tried running older Finale versions under Classic on my G4, and they seem to work. I'm not trying to do any MIDI, and I haven't tried printing. (But I *have* printed from Classic using other programs.) Hopefully Classic running on the newer machine

Re: [Finale] "I could care less" (was Re: Finale Digest, Vol 2, Issue 10)

2003-09-12 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Hear, hear! (And *not* the abombination, "here, here") Williams, Jim wrote: > Yes, Mark, Andrew, & Quinion.com! > Such statements are dripping with irony! > My pet peeves are misuse of > it's (it is) and its... > they're, there, and their... > company's, companies,and companies'... > etc. > Coll

Re: [Finale] Articulations Change during

2003-09-09 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
My Mass Copy plugin can copy articulations correctly. (And it can clear the bogus ones.) I use it all the time. > -Original Message- > From: Ole Buck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2003 07:07 AM > To: 'finale' > Subject: [Finale] Articulations Change during "copy

Re: [Finale] feature request

2003-09-04 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Several years ago, when Randy Stokes was still a regular contributor to this list, he floated the idea of fixed-width lines. I've wanted this for years for exactly the same reasons Andrew does. At the time the idea was roundly derided as a waste of time by almost all other list members. Oh well

Re: [Finale] TAN: PDF Versions

2003-09-03 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: Brad Beyenhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > What is the > advantage of 4 over 5, in your opinion? Speed, speed, and speed. Reader 4 launches in a fraction of the time of 5 and esp. <> 6. > And where is it available for > download these days? > You might fi

[Finale] TAN: PDF Versions

2003-09-03 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
In light of the swinish girth of Acrobat 5 and the godzilla-proportions of Acrobat 6 (including the readers), I've been eschewing these formats in favor of PDF level 4. I'm wondering if anyone else is, and if anyone beside me is sticking with Reader 4. (Well, I'm using reader 5 on OSX because it

Re: [Finale] OT: MacOS 9 help needed

2003-08-31 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
While Andrew's problem (reported by Norton) could be in the hardware, it most likely is corruption in the volumn information. If so, OSX or OS9 will make no difference. But Diskwarrior will definitely fix it. And in the unlikely chance that it is in the hardware, Diskwarrior will tell you that.

Re: [Finale] OT: MacOS 9 help needed

2003-08-31 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I should add that while DiskWarrior has never caused me the slightest problem and meanwhile has solved numerous quite bizarre ones, it is always a good idea to make a full backup before doing any kind of disk repair. This is not to say I always follow this advice--far from it. But in this case I

[Finale] OT: Bass Marimba

2003-08-30 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Hello. I hope you will pardon this poll of the list concerning availability of bass marimbas. Andrew Stiller's Instrumentation book lists them as extremely rare and normal ones with extensions down to A (from the normal c) as 25%. But in the years since he wrote the book, my impression is that n

Re: [Finale] Expression alignment

2003-08-30 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
David H. Bailey wrote: > > "Automatic expression alignment" would imply > that if we want them lined up so they are a uniform distance below/above > the staff, the program would do it so it is uniform. That's what "Below Staff Baseline" is for (which is available for note-attached as well as m

Re: [Finale] OS X and MIDI

2003-08-30 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I agree with Tim Thompson that it "just works". I'm not quite so sanguine about it, however. I've never used MIDI on a Wintel box, so I can't compare the experiences, but in OSX you must have the proper drivers for your MIDI interface, which is probably very similar to Win. So far, I have not ha

Re: [Finale] F2004: Note-attached expressions

2003-08-30 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I don't mean to be impertinent, but you did select the proper radio button at the bottom, no? Occasionally I run into this problem myself. The way I fix it is by noticing whether Measure-Attached or Note-Attached is selected on the radio button at the bottom of the dialog. I find it easy to over

Re: [Finale] Expression placement

2003-08-30 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Craig Parmerlee wrote: > Every time, Finale is > using the measure-attached properties, not the note-attached properties. > Check the metatool setting in the Expression Menu. Also, turn on colors. Then you can tell immediately if you've put in a note-attached or meas-attached exp. -- Robert

Re: [Finale] Expression alignment

2003-08-29 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
David H. Bailey wrote: > > When I use a metatool to place a text expression, I can't edit that > placement individually from any other placement If only want to affect one expression, why wouldn't you just drag it where you want it? Effectively, that *is* what you want, because when you drag it

Re: [Finale] Expression alignment

2003-08-29 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Jari Williamsson wrote: > > FWIW, Forza! will soon be able to transfer Fin2004 expressions between > files, complete with descriptions and positioning. For you Mac mavens, my Settings Scrapbook plugin will do that now, assuming MacFin04 were out. (Darn.) Actually, Settings Scrapbook really does

Re: [Finale] Expression alignment

2003-08-29 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
David H. Bailey wrote: > Now I find out that I will have to go > through and manually edit EACH and EVERY expression in the new libraries > if that is the behavior I want. How many is that? At most a couple dozen? That you have to change one time in a template? I've found that with any new Fin

Re: [Finale] Make mass mover move expression marks - addendum

2003-08-29 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
You did not mention whether it was note-attached or measure-attached expressions. I have not trouble w/ note-attached in any recent version of Finale, either dragging or copying. You want to be careful about measure-attached. When you transfer them from one file to another, they lose their staf

Re: [Finale] Expression alignment

2003-08-29 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I'm not sure I agree it's a bug. If your positioning option is "Below Staff Baseline or Entry" it is working as designed. I could not reproduce your example. Perhaps I was using a different clef or octave. But "Below Staff Baseline or Entry" is *supposed* to push expressions out of line if they

Re: [Finale] Spooky

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Have you visited these websites lately? (For that matter, when it comes to Patterson Beams, have you looked in your Plug-Ins Fin04 folder?) > -Original Message- > From: Richard Yates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 04:07 AM > To: 'Finale list' > Subject: [Fina

Re: [Finale] Sib/Fin wars

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I did not mean to detract from Finale by comparing it to Sib. I spent about 2 minutes playing with Sib's step mode entry and realized it was a nice paradigm for entering notes. I then discovered that Fin04 Simple deploys the same paradigm. This was a happy discovery. Specific details differ, of

Re: [Finale] OT: MacOS 9 help needed

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I second this recommendation (DiskWarrior). It is an essential tool, and the new OSX version is better than ever. http://www.alsoft.com > -Original Message- > From: Eden - Lawrence D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The program for handling this situation is DiskWarrior. ___

Re: [Finale] Taking copy protection seriously?

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Actually, I think all you need is ten digits. > -Original Message- > From: Aaron Sherber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Anyone with a copy of pre-2004 Finale and a valid serial number can install > it with no problems. > > ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: Richard Huggins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Okay, I'm beggin' here...I still can't decipher how it works. Like Speedy caps lock. Like the Sibelius demo. (Doing it yourself is worth 1000 times being told how it works.) ___

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
My observations with respect to Sibelius step mode and Fin04 Speedy are in relation to how they work with midi keyboard. I've never investigated with program with respect to how to enter notes w/o a midi keyboard. > -Original Message- > From: Éric Dussault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: Richard Huggins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > My question is, is there some relationship between MIDI entry and the new > Simple Entry? You bet there is. This is what it took me 6 months to "get". As I said before, it works similarly to Speedy with caps lock o

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I've been looking at the new Fin04 features (without being able to *use* any of them--don't think beta testing is any bed of roses) for nearly six months. Yet it took me until yesterday to notice one of the best improvements in it: Simple Note Entry. Are you a Speedy addict? Have you ever tried

Re: [Finale] percussion noteheads

2003-08-21 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
My Mass Copy plugin will clear notehead mods in a selected region. If there are no other custom notehead mods, you might try it. Andrew Stiller wrote: > On a percussion staff, the composer changed all the whole noteheads to > half-noteheads, presumably to ensure proper playback. How now do I >

Re: [Finale] Copying material into a new score

2003-08-21 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Back in the old "chaining error" days, the only safe way to uncorrupt a file was to extract the entire score as a single part. Specifically, copy & insert (or paste) merely transferred the corruption. If you do not have any time invested in a page layout, part extraction might be the first thing

Re: [Finale] MTNA

2003-08-21 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: Craig Parmerlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > It can't. I see that in my entire state (Indiana) there are a grand > total of 2 members. Look the website again. That list is "new" members, whatever that means. I am certain Indiana has many dozens of members

Re: [Finale] screen rotation

2003-08-20 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
; the bottom of the CRT, and the screens line up beautifully). > > Screen rotation isn't the be-all solution, as there are other ways of > skinning the same cat. > > Tim > > On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 07:28 PM, Robert Patterson Finale wrote: > > > Many ha

Re: [Finale] Little Guy/Big Guy (was Instrumentation andorchestration books)

2003-08-20 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Much of this discussion is besides the point. Many of titles at Carter's sight simply are not available anywhere else. The indispensable Kurt Stone book, "Music Notation in the 20th Century," languished out of print for years before Carter convinced Norton to reprint it. I think he did so essent

Re: [Finale] Re: Screen Rotation

2003-08-20 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: BlueScreen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Interesting that the new G5s ship with this option enabled in > the OS. > Just to clarify. Not all G5s ship with this. SFAIK it is limited to those with the most expensive top-of-the-line graphics option: ATI Radeon 98

Re: [Finale] #Staves in portrait (was: What is screen rotation?)

2003-08-20 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: Javier Ruiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 1) How many staves can you see at once at 85%? > 34 +/-. I haven't counted exactly. (Also, you can squeeze xtras in by giving up white space.) The photo shows what it looks like, and for someone with good eyes it mig

Re: [Finale] Menu space (was What is screen rotation?)

2003-08-20 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: RockyRoad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Robert, do you run out of menu space when the top of the screen Never. You must remember that the monitor in the photo has 1920x1200 resolution. In portrait orientation this is still 1200 pixels of width--nearly as muc

[Finale] What is screen rotation?

2003-08-19 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Many have answered this question quite well. It seems (in my defensive state before discovering ATI Radeon 9800 Pro VERSAVISION mumbo jumbo) I may have misinterpreted ignorance as skepticism in at least some cases, so sorry if so. Email is extremely bad at nuance. To help illustrate screen rota

Re: [Finale] Screen rotation for OSX is here today

2003-08-19 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Well, this is my day to be out of date. First, the G5's shipped and I didn't know it, and they shipped with...a screen rotation option. (DOH!!) Thanks to Darcy and encouraging me to look at ATI. The new G5's have the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro as an option, and that graphics card includes ATI's "VERSAV

Re: [Finale] Screen rotation?

2003-08-19 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> For example, I'm on Mac and have a Mitsubishi 21" monitor (not flat > panel) capable of up to 1024 X 768 rez. Does it apply to me? > You absolutely can do a demo trial with a CRT. But you would not want to operate that way all the time because CRT's are not designed to operate on their sides.

Re: [Finale] Re: Screen Rotation

2003-08-19 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: Brad Beyenhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > What can you > do (or see) with rotation that isn't possible otherwise? With my monitor in portrait orientation, I can view an entire orchestra score in scroll view at 85%. This is large enough to do a great many e

[Finale] Re: Screen Rotation

2003-08-19 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I think rotation was built into XP for Tablets. But I didn't know it was in the general product. If so, it might add fire to Apple to do it for X. I used to think there was hope for X because I thought Apple would eventually do a tablet. But the lackluster market response to tablets (justifiable

Re: [Finale] Dead OS9 was: Finale 2004 for Mac...good news and bad news

2003-08-19 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: Johannes Gebauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Contemporary Hardware you cannot run OS 9 direct anyway. Actually, this is a false statement. A couple of models still for sale at the Apple store will boot OS9 directly. Furthermore, for a few more days yet,

Re: Screen Rotation (was [Finale] Dead OS9)

2003-08-18 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
RockyRoad wrote: > > Does this really matter on a 21" monitor running 1600x1200? > It is precisely on monitors of this size where screen rotation really begins to kick in for Finale users. (FWIW, what gave me the rush was rotating a 24" LCD panel that is 1920x1200.) The reason is that you have

Re: [Finale] Dead OS9 was: Finale 2004 for Mac...good news and bad news

2003-08-18 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Johannes Gebauer wrote: > OS 9 never had any MIDI support other than the old MIDI manager. Anything > that went beyond this was 3rd party. Well, third party or not, the point is that the OSX solutions are not yet here. The fact that they were 3rd party seems completely superfluous to me, espec

Re: [Finale] OS9 Alive? Finale 2004 for Mac...good news and bad news

2003-08-18 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Darcy James Argue wrote: > > Hey, don't blame me. Steve Jobs held a mock "funeral" for OS 9 over a > year ago. He lives on Reality Distortion Planet, not this one. > no sane developer is going to continue > to invest in OS 9 On the contrary, most sane developers, like MakeMusic, are having

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 for Mac...good news and bad news

2003-08-18 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Darcy James Argue wrote: > OS 9 is long dead I just can't let this go by. Long dead??!!! Apple went to OSX-only booting fully a year too soon, and are at least morally guilty of negligence for doing so. OSX still does not have proper MIDI support. (The current CoreMIDI situation is a [EMAIL PRO

Re: [Finale] Extending 2ndary Beams

2003-08-17 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
David Bailey asked why I would use the Extend 2ndary Beams option. ("Why would you want to do that?": a question that, in computers, can lead to heads being bitten off.) The answer, of course, is for the many cases when one wants the behavior. The simplest example is 16th note, 16th rest, 16th n

[Finale] Extending 2ndary Beams

2003-08-16 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I routinely use the Extend Secondary Beams over Rests option, but it creates a most vexing problem. Consider the pattern 16th note, 16th rest, 8th note. If this falls withing a quarter beat, all three are beamed together. The problem is, the 16th beam extends all the way over the 16th rest. I ca

[Finale] trill playback

2003-08-15 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I have been under the impression that TGTools will create trill playback, but now I can't find it. (I found tremolo playback and I found trill paren notes, but no trill playback.) Have I missed something? ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: [Finale] Large Format Printers

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
The two choices I know about are from Xante (www.xante.com) and GCC Technologies (gcctech.com). Both offer printers on paper up to 13" x 35". Xante is running a rebate program that makes their 4G printer comparable in price to a GCC Tech Elite 21+. Either will set you back a bit more than $2k wi

[Finale] TAN: OSX Booklet printing (e.g., w/ Acrobat Reader)

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
This is a followup to yesterday's thread. It appears that booklet printing is only available in OS9. (This is yet another example of OSX not-ready-for-prime-time-ness.) In Google searches I've found many bitter complaints that booklet printing has (so far) been orphaned in OSX on a variety of pr

Re: [Finale] Read Thesaurus (was: Ted Ross reprint)

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
It references the examples in specific editions of scores. This points up a (imho minor) flaw in the book. Usually the reference is to a page number and/or rehearsal mark. (Most of the referenced scores unfortunately have no printed measure numbers.) But even though I typically have different ed

Re: [Finale] TAN: OSX Booklet printing (e.g., w/ Acrobat Reader)

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: d. collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Clickbook works much better than Fineprint, in my opinion (and I've used > both). > > Clikbook (which is the software I was thinking about when I started this post) does not work in OSX, according to the website. I

Re: [Finale] TAN: OSX Booklet printing (e.g., w/ Acrobat Reader)

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
It is a system-wide problem. That is, the current OSX Postscript driver does not include booklet printing the way that for OS9 did. However, Finale itself has built-in booklet printing that is (presumably) still available in Finale 2004 even when running under OSX, and it is far superior to that

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Copy Protection

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Johannes Gebauer wrote: > I very much doubt that this will make any difference to Finale > sales, though. This is the point that burns me up. Finale 2003 was a terrible upgrade--perhaps the most useless we've ever seen. So it sold really badly. So some marketing genius decided this must be beca

[Finale] TAN: 2-Up Printing with Acrobat Reader

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Is it possible to use Acrobat Reader 5 (Mac) to do 2-up printing similar to how Finale does it? I've managed to get the layout options kinda sorta to do it, but not w/o massive and unneccessary shrinkage. And I have no idea how to bookletize a document. Kinkos does this routinely, and I believe

[Finale] (no subject)

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
The statement is correct so long as you keep your current computer (actually optionally 2 of em) running as long as you live. But most people upgrade computers periodically, or have hard drive crashes, etc. When that happens, you'll have to get a new reg code, and that means MM has to be there a

[Finale] TAN: more booklet printing woes

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
So I've figured out how to use Acrobat Reader 5 to do the booklet printing in OS9. But now I have a problem with the fonts embedded in the PDFs. Apparently the music fonts are embedded in the first page of music. But I have several pages of title and cover preceding these. The problem is, when A

Re: [Finale] TAN: 2-Up Printing with Acrobat Reader

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > After setting > booklet properties, go to the print dialog itself and set 'shrink to fit'. > Aha. That's the option I don't want. Armed with this info I got it to work in OS9, and hopefully in OSX soon. (That is, I turned "shrink to fit" OFF!) Thanks very much.

Re: [Finale] It's here -- Finale 2004!

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
John Howell wrote: > once again, the marketing department seems determined > to ignore the educational market that should be so important to them. > The Mac version isn't shipping until October 20, much too late for > any college I know of. I think I can state with fair certainty that the Oct.

Re: [Finale] Strategy for scores

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I typically do the score doubling up parts on staves as needed. If there are solos or unisons, I use note-attached exps to denote them. I used to use meas-attached, but since Tobias introduced Smart Part Extraction I use note-attached because SPE works so well with them. To extract the parts, I

[Finale] Finale 2004 Copy Protection

2003-08-11 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
If the copy protection scheme were merely a challenge/response where I had to supply a registration number every time I installed, I would be completely comfortable with it. Legitimate users *are*, however, penalized by the scheme that Finale 2004 employs, because it makes our continued use of F

Re: [Finale] Read Thesaurus (was: Ted Ross reprint)

2003-08-11 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
If I didn't already have a copy of the Thesaurus, I would be happy to pay the asking price of $100, ridiculous though it is. I have found the Thesaurus to be one of the most useful books on my shelf. For those who haven't seen it, it is basically an index of all the special orchestration techniq

Re: [Finale] TAN: OSX Booklet printing (e.g., w/ Acrobat Reader)

2003-08-07 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: Éric Dussault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.dynagram.com/html/en_solu_ds.htm > At $12000, I think I'll pass. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] rotating text

2003-08-03 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
My experience has been that the rotated characters are rotated. What Andrew described also happens on my machine, but only while I'm dragging the smart shape into position. If I re-display the page after dragging, the characters show in the new orientation. It has been awhile since I printed a f

Re: [Finale] Feature request (#12 in a series)

2003-07-12 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I do this kind of thing now with lyrics. Assuming the hyphenation of lyrics worked the way we all wish it would when jumping to a new system, wouldn't that be sufficient? Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > To whom it may concern: > > If not implemented in FIN 2k4, one thing I would like to see in 2k5 is

[Finale] OT: Harp plectra

2003-07-05 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Mahler occasionally called for the harp to be played with a plectrum ("mediator"). In all the passages I've seen, these were single notes or smallish rolled chords in a single hand. Does anyone know a reason why this effect could not be produced two-fisted? That is, with a plectrum in each hand

Re: [Finale] Fin 2002 Win - copy/paste bars

2003-07-02 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Depending on how far apart the bars are, you can either drag the selection from the source to the target (aligning first bars) or you can use a keystroke combo and click in the first bar of the target. I've done the latter so often I can't remember the exact keystroke. (It's in muscle memory.) I

Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 *not* to be OS X compatible?

2003-07-02 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I think David Bailey's comments on this are very to the point. About a year ago, Coda definitively announced that Finale 2004 will be OSX native, and they have not retracted it. I don't know how much more reassurance you can expect to get. (You might visit the download page on my website, if you

[Finale] (no subject)

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I'm a bit puzzled by the question. For me, both TGTools and Patterson Plug-Ins windows stay where I put them. That is, they always open at the last place I closed them (assuming I hit OK). I know a little more about Patterson plugins than TGTools. Do any of your other PPI settings fail to save?

Re: [Finale] Character sizes

2003-06-25 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
You don't mention which version of Finale you are using. For Fin02 and higher you could look at the font annotations for Maestro font. The units used are scalable units, but you might be able to interpolate between them and evpus with a little help from someone who knows better what those units

Re: [Finale] Joining two files into one

2003-06-25 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
Basically, you use copy/insert to insert the 2nd movement at the end of the 1st. You then have to twiddle some bits on the last measure of mvmt 1 to suppress unwanted cautionary key sigs/time sigs, etc. And set the next bar to start a new system. You will then have the following problems. 1. Me

Re: [Finale] OT: Fried FireWire ports

2003-06-24 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
> -Original Message- > From: John Croft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > There's a rather in-depth article at > http://www.wiebetech.com/pressreleases/FireWirePortFailures.htm -- > worth reading if you use FireWire. > It seems like this article provides as good an answer as you are likel

[Finale] remove 8ve doubling

2003-06-23 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
One can easily create octave doublings by using the Mass Edit transpose function and checking the keep original notes option. Is there a counterpart technique to remove octave doubling easily? -- Robert Patterson http://www.robertgpatterson.com ___

Re: [Finale] OT: faces revealed

2003-06-19 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
was she doing?) > > --Richard > > > From: "Robert Patterson Finale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > For the curious among you, Jari Williamsson, Tobias Giesen, and I did a joint > > seminar at a composers school in Sweden last month. The event was d

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