Re: [Flightgear-devel] a4 autopilot

2002-06-22 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: There isn't any information about autopilot features on an a4 that I've been able to find. But since there is some interest in using autopilot, a basic configuration has been added to the setup file in CVS. The original A4D didn't originally have an autopilot. It was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Spiffy new panel gadget

2002-06-21 Thread Andy Ross
I lied again: The perl scripts that generated the ball are attached. The ball.pl script spits out the .ac file, while balltex.pl generates the texture Postscript in a very similar manner to the gauge stuff I posted earlier. Pass it an argument of north/south/east/west/top/bottom to tell it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Spiffy new panel gadget

2002-06-21 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Andy Ross wrote: What might be easier, though, is allowing for a optional 6-element vertex line that included the normal. We should be able to load into ac3d. But if we embedded commands into the name tags we'd be ok. Ah, I see what you're saying. You're right, your

[Flightgear-devel] AC3D file format travails

2002-06-21 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: For now, Andy, why not just generate a single object containing all of the surfaces, rather than 6 separate objects? Then plib will have less trouble with the normals. Unless I've misunderstood the file format, this won't work. You only get one texture per object; so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AC3D file format travails

2002-06-21 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: Andy Ross writes: Unless I've misunderstood the file format, this won't work. You only get one texture per object; so I need at least 6 objects. You can combine all six 128x128 textures into a single 512x512 attitude.rgb file. Oh. Duh. Yeah, I can do that. :) I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] latest cvs a4 panel

2002-06-21 Thread Andy Ross
Alex Romosan wrote: after the merge of the cube sides in the attitude ball i now have one huge ball sitting in the middle of the panel. you can find a picture at http://caliban.lbl.gov/fgfs-screen-002.ppm. I goofed the radius, sorry. It's currently a 7cm wide ball, which is too small, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New A-4/jet panel instruments

2002-06-20 Thread Andy Ross
Tony Peden wrote: I think you mentioned that it was /accelerations/pilot-g's ? I'd like to see some direction info added to the name as lateral accel at the pilot seat is quite often of interest as well as normal. So maybe: /accelerations/pilot-normal-g and /accelerations/pilot-lateral-g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] question about fg joystick support -- whereis it?/grep question

2002-06-20 Thread Andy Ross
Norman Vine wrote: Check your editor's help file for 'multi-file grep' or 'multi-file search' IMHO this is an indispensible editor feature for developing 'large' projects and most 'good' code editors have this feature builtin so you don't have to resort to using commandline tools directly.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: New A-4/jet panel instruments

2002-06-20 Thread Andy Ross
Martin Spott wrote: I get that, too. What I'm missing in recent releases is display of the gear in the outside view and keyboard control of throttle and flaps. This appeared to be introduced the the recent A-4 updates in YASim. Can anyone confirm ? Works for me. Are you sure you have a

[Flightgear-devel] Spiffy new panel gadget

2002-06-20 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: Andy Ross writes: This panel isn't quite right, though. The center attitude indicator isn't a flat card, but is in fact a rotating globe. This might be a good time to mention that we have an alternative method for creating panels. 3D models can now include other

Re: [Flightgear-devel] blue angel

2002-06-18 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I have a lot of problems flying it well from the mouse. It doesn't seem to respond well to elevator input ... you get an initial bump and then pitch oscillations ... I don't know if that's realistic or not. I'm sure Andy can provide a suitable explanation for why it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] blue angel

2002-06-18 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: For anyone who'd like further reading on phugoid oscillations, see Alex Perry wrote: Nope, only for a given airspeed. The balance between tailplane and main wing, for a given elevator position, is speed dependent. Thus phugoids. I think I should clarify. First off,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] blue angel

2002-06-18 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: Note that some fighter aircraft, like (I think) the F-4, are inherently unstable, and if they're modelled correctly we won't be able to fly them at all by direct controls: we'll need to work though a fairly sophisticated FCS. The F-4 is stable. It's actually much

Re: [Flightgear-devel] blue angel

2002-06-18 Thread Andy Ross
Jon S. Berndt wrote: IIRC, the F-16 is neutrally stable throughout much of its flight envelope. The main advantage for having a neutrally stable or unstable fighter aircraft is agility, quickness in manueverability. It's a chicken an the egg problem. Any aircraft can have quickness in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] blue angel

2002-06-18 Thread Andy Ross
Charlie Hotchkiss wrote: Nimble. Hmm. Wasn't the F16 so responsive that it became the first fighter to put its pilot to sleep if he yanked to hard on the controls. Certainly not the first. GLOC has been an known issue from the very early days of aviation. There was an experimental fighter

Re: [Flightgear-devel] blue angel

2002-06-18 Thread Andy Ross
Rick Ansell wrote: From memory G-Induced Loss of Consciousness (GLOC) is the 'new' problem - this is caused by the rapid onset of G. Blackout is progressive and therefore gives a warning. GLOC is sudden and occurs 4 to 6 seconds after the manoeuvre. Its insidious as short periods of rapidly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] blue angel

2002-06-18 Thread Andy Ross
Robert Detmers wrote: Actually the F-4 is unstable, but only marginally. It just means that the plane would eventually diverge if the pilot did nothing to stop it. Not in pitch, certainly? An aircraft that is unstable in pitch, if you pulled the stick a little bit and got the nose going up

Re: [Flightgear-devel] blue angel

2002-06-18 Thread Andy Ross
Rick Ansell wrote: This is my reading to, but the two are usual treated/described as separate and 'GLOC' was certainly heralded as a new hazard in the 80's. (Back when I religiously read Flight International from cover to cover each week!) I hadn't realized this was a new(ish) term. I've

Re: [Flightgear-devel] a4 panel

2002-06-18 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Can anyone ID the left two instruments in the top row and the left most in the bottom row? The top left is exhaust temperature (in fahrenheit, I think). To its right is airspeed in knots. The weird one at the bottom left is probably a gear indicator; it might plausibly be a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] blue angel

2002-06-18 Thread Andy Ross
Robert Deters wrote: Andy Ross wrote: Robert Deters wrote: Actually the F-4 is unstable, but only marginally. Not in pitch, certainly? Yes in pitch. Besides, I think you are confusing static stability and dynamic stability. Er, normally one interprets an unqualified use of stable

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: failed to untie property w. --aircraft-id=a4-yasim+CVS question

2002-06-14 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Melchior FRANZ writes: Curtis L. Olson wrote: YASim has had code changes in the last 2,3,4 days so perhaps something broke? (Hopefully it's not me that's doing something stupid.) :-) 'Bad' news: Yasim works for me with CVS HEAD from one or two hours ago.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] joystick not seen on macos x

2002-06-14 Thread Andy Ross
I'm a pseudonym wrote: I am using macos 10.1.5 and a saitek x45 usb joystick. The joystick is getting power (lights up), but neither fgfs joystick tool (fgjs or js_demo) sees it nor does fgfs when it starts up. How does one set up a joystick on macos to work with flightgear? Have you

[Flightgear-devel] YASim flaps finally working (?)

2002-06-14 Thread Andy Ross
I believe I've (finally) nailed the flap drag bug in YASim. A good amount of thought, some work with pencil and paper, and a (IMNSHO) damn clever application of the small angle approximation worked quite well. The code changes were actually very modest and well-contained; no machetes necessary.

[Flightgear-devel] Sounds for the A-4

2002-06-13 Thread Andy Ross
I've been playing with the sound system for the A-4. Neat stuff. I was getting bitten by some strange behavior, though, which I tracked to an some uninitialized stack variables in fg_sound.cxx. If a sound is defined without a specific scaling function (i.e., just play this sound), the volume

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options.xml

2002-06-11 Thread Andy Ross
Norman Vine wrote: fgfs --help exits with an error message about 'options.xml' missing Shouldn't this be in fgfsbase ?? Apparently, it is in CVS. But the permissions on the file are incorrect: turban:/andy/src/fgfsbase$ cvs up options.xml cvs server: cannot open

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BGL Loader for PLIB

2002-06-07 Thread Andy Ross
Christian Stock wrote: This is perfect timing, I guess. I just decided to quit MSFS development 2 days ago and I know the FS2002 bgls inside out. So I can definitely help out here... Doesn't the 12-step program discourage this sort of thing? I mean, jumping into a serious commitment so soon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Parsing Lon/lat strings

2002-06-05 Thread Andy Ross
James Turner wrote: How do you generate a degree symbol under Linux? I was trying to and failed miserably ... This is character 0xb0 in the various ISO 8859 character sets (try man ascii and man iso_8859_1), which essentially replace ASCII on modern systems. US keyboards won't generate them,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim and the atmosphere

2002-06-05 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: Since YASim uses the atmosphere model from FGEnvironment (in JSBSim, it's always 15degC and 29.92inHG at sea level), I tried some experiments with different settings from KSFO: Heh, I can just (barely) imaging a day in the Bay Area that peaks around 95F. But the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] pthread error (valgrind)

2002-06-05 Thread Andy Ross
Melchior FRANZ wrote: valgrind reports this bug: pthread_mutex_destroy: mutex is still in use at 0x40523AB4: pthread_error (vg_libpthread.c:229) by 0x405249B5: __pthread_mutex_destroy (vg_libpthread.c:825) by 0x40625220: _IO_default_finish (in /lib/libc.so.6) by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim flaps flap

2002-06-05 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Not sure if this relates to the air pressure issue, seems to be a bit more than that would account for. A few days ago someone reported unusual flap effects, prior to the corrections to the YASim flight model. It's a known bug. Curt found it a few months back. The fix is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim flaps flap

2002-06-05 Thread Andy Ross
Tony Peden wrote: Induced drag is a function of the vortices surrounding the wing. Those vortices vary in strength with lift, not angle of attack. Not so. The induced drag of an aircraft in high-speed cruise is much lower than an aircraft in level flight at stall speed. The lift in these

[Flightgear-devel] Radeon 8500 linux drivers

2002-06-04 Thread Andy Ross
Slightly off topic, but I found the following post from Sunday on dri-devel: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=772607forum_id=7177 Apparently, ATI have released (binary) Linux drivers for their FireGL 8700/8800 cards. These use the same core as the Radeon 8500, and the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Connection refused

2002-06-03 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Olivier Grisel said: Furthermore, I can't hear the landing gear sound for the 747-yasim The gear sound is working now in my copy (can't remember if cvs is working or not). For the most part it gets drowned out by the sound of the engines. Not sure if on the real thing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] yasim solution failure

2002-06-03 Thread Andy Ross
Alex Romosan wrote: it seems to be back. things were working on friday, but this morning when i tried to fly the 747 out of KOAK i get this: It looks like you're using the 747.xml file out of the current fgfsbase CVS. As of the last fix, you need a new file to fix a tail authority problem

Re: [Flightgear-devel] yasim solution failure

2002-06-03 Thread Andy Ross
John Check wrote: Andy Ross wrote: Checkins to the base package tend to lag the source tree by a few days. I attached the new file to my mail on Sunday (subject: YASim 747-400 climb). A few days? That really shouldn't be. Everybody that needs write access for the base has it, AFAIK

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Parsing Lon/lat strings

2002-06-03 Thread Andy Ross
James Turner wrote: Is there any code in Sim/FlightGear to do generic conversion of a lat / lon string into a decimal degree value? And, if it doesn't exist, any suggestions how do a vaguely elegant implementation? Heh, that actually sounded kinda fun, so I tried it. Here's the smallest

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Crash on Reset function.

2002-06-03 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Has anyone tried to debug the Reset menu crash? I've been looking at it for an hour and am just going in circles. Half the time I get a segfault with no backtrace ... I don't remember what a malloc segfault exactly means, but I seem to recall that it probably means

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multitexturing

2002-06-02 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: David Findlay writes: Anyone know if multitexturing is supported by Plib? As far as I know, it is not. This is true of the default plib objects, but not really of plib itself. The ssgLeaf object is extensible, and supports a draw() method that you can fill with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim 747-400 climb performance

2002-06-01 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: David Megginson said: What happens when you reduce the fuel load? Hmmm...nothing because it won't reduce. I'm showing full 19k+ lbs for three tanks no matter what I do with the fraction figure in the config and can't dump during flight it either. Yes! That's it!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim 747-400 climb performance

2002-06-01 Thread Andy Ross
I lied: There's another 747.xml file attached. Sigh... someday I'll get one of these right on the first try. Andy -- Andrew J. RossNextBus Information Systems Senior Software Engineer Emeryville, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nextbus.com Men go crazy in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear review in FlightXPress

2002-06-01 Thread Andy Ross
Michael Basler wrote: I received the June issue of FlightXPress, a German language (actually THE German language) language journal on Flight simulation (http://www.flightxpress.de/) today. This issue has a one page review on Flightgear written by a Marc Stoering This actually seems mostly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pressure errors in FGEnvironment

2002-05-31 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: The idea is that users should be able to set any reasonable sea-level pressure and see reasonable behaviour -- that's why I set the tables up with deltas rather than absolute values. I can see, now, how that would be a problem at higher altitudes, but what should we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim solution solution?

2002-05-30 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Actually I tried all the way up to 80,000lbs and still ran into problems in the 25000ft range. There is a little uncertaintly in just what I'm observing. Basically there is a steady decrease in attainable airspeed. I found one bug. There was a property name typo* in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim solution solution?

2002-05-30 Thread Andy Ross
Major A wrote: This may or may not have anything to do with the jet code, but with the 747-yasim, I cannot slow the plane below about 280kt in level flight at 3000ft ASL with throttles at minimum and full flaps, which makes the plane rather hard to land... By way of disclosure: there is a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim solution solution?

2002-05-30 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: There should be speed brakes which would have helped a lot, but they might not be implemented yet. Sure are: /controls/spoilers There are also a bunch of flaps on a real 747 and I'm not sure which ones are actually modeled. All of them; YASim models flaps symbolically as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim solution solution?

2002-05-30 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Think I saw something that was maybe at a fixed weight. Not the full Flight manual table. When I get home I'll look for it. But I was suprised at the data. At lower altitudes it was over 4000fpm and was at least 2000fpm up to and over 3ft. Finally dropped off to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim solution solution?

2002-05-30 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Yeah but look at the values again...we're getting close to tropopause value at 23000ft. Mach should be well over 600knots at 23000ft, unless it's _really_ warm. Mach 1 at the tropopause and above is just about exactly 295 m/s, which is 573 knots *true* airspeed. The

[Flightgear-devel] YASim 747-400 climb performance

2002-05-30 Thread Andy Ross
More evidence. The following quote is from an HTMLized google cache of a file named 747operations.pdf. The file itself is gone from the web, unfortunately. It appears to be a POH compiled for an MSFS virtual airline: After climbing as described above to 10,000 feet, reduce climb to 500fpm.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LinuxWorld Expo Aug 12-15

2002-05-30 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: If we could get a couple people to commit to spend a chunk of time in the booth, then I think it would *definitely* be worth getting something organized. I have a floor pass already, and could easily commit to spending a day in the booth if needed. Andy -- Andrew J.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim 747-400 climb performance

2002-05-30 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Andy Ross said: The bad pilot technique theory is looking pretty good. If YASim can get to 1400fpm at 300 knots, then I move that it be declared officially innocent on all counts. :) Well maybe not yet...it is better with today's patch...but still run out of steam

[Flightgear-devel] Pressure errors in FGEnvironment

2002-05-30 Thread Andy Ross
I wrote: First, the air pressures returned from the environment system don't agree with the standard atmosphere that YASim uses to do its calibration Heh, funny that. The new environment manager *is* using YASim's numbers. :) Nonetheless, I think I found the problem. In converting the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Developer Locations update

2002-05-30 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: Cameron Moore writes: So, if you contribute to FG and would like to be listed, just let me know. Just to repeat something I mentioned before, it's probably a good idea not to give your location *too* precisely. Heh, good point. But I like to live dangerously (and

[Flightgear-devel] YASim solution solution?

2002-05-29 Thread Andy Ross
OK, I *think* I have nailed the platform-dependant YASim solution failures. What I found was that the solution heuristics hid a bunch of pseudo-chaotic instabilities that were introduced when the approach elevator trim feature went in a few weeks back. This was deterministic, but weird --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim solution solution?

2002-05-29 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Andy that works. Haven't been able to download your tar ball (is the link correct?). Sigh. Long story: plausible.org is a box in my closet. We lost power last night. It has a dumb (Asus P5A) ATX motherboard that doesn't know how to power on following a power loss (it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim solution solution?

2002-05-29 Thread Andy Ross
Jon S. Berndt wrote: Andy Ross wrote: last night. It has a dumb (Asus P5A) ATX motherboard that doesn't know how to power on following a power loss (it comes up in soft-off You sure you don't have a BIOS setting for that? I've got one on my m/b. Maybe you need to upgrade your BIOS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim solution solution?

2002-05-29 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: Andy Ross writes: The way the code works is that it matches some performance curves I got out of McFarland for a 707 engine. The turbofans on the 747 actually won't be too terribly far off in their thrust performance, I'd think. This is probably a dumb question

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim solution solution?

2002-05-29 Thread Andy Ross
I wrote: Jim Wilson wrote: It appears that the thrust/altitude curve is a bit too steep. [...] Also there seems to be a greatly exagerated ram effect (not sure of correct term). It seems that airspeed changes might be affecting the thrust value too greatly, but I don't have a feel for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Yasim and 2.95.2 math (was: Rudder invertedagain in yasim)

2002-05-28 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: The pitch angle seems to be way too high when at altitude (not climbing) [...] But now I'm thinking that the real issue has to do with the lift calculation. [...] The altitude starts to decrease smoothly as IAS passes below 300knots...not in a stall fashion. This is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Does yasim-747 work?

2002-05-27 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: This is what I get with the patch. Looks like some of the values did get a little worse, but not uniformly. The delta values seem to be oscillating every other iteration? I relisted the prepatch values after these new values for comparison. Hrmph. This is getting just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rudder inverted again in yasim

2002-05-27 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Turn left, you go right and vice versa. Nothing's changed, so far as I know. Has anyone been playing with the default bindings? Which aircraft? YASim, per se, makes no interptetation of any input properties. It gets told by its configuration file to read a property (or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rudder inverted again in yasim

2002-05-27 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Doh! I was wondering why I didn't notice this before...it is turning correctly. The controls values are the opposite of JSBSim, so in chase view the rudder animations go the wrong way. I guess that means almost the same thing in a way...since the control is reversed. If

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Does yasim-747 work?

2002-05-26 Thread Andy Ross
Julian Foad wrote: tailDelta is increasing here. At a guess, I'd say maybe the solution is oscillating. That's possible. There's nothing fundamental in the design that prevents oscillating solutions. In fact, there's nothing fundamental in the math that guarantees a single solution at all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Does yasim-747 work?

2002-05-26 Thread Andy Ross
I wrote: Jim, there's an attached patch to Airplane.cpp that hacks in different numbers. Could you try this and see if it works? (For all I know, it might make things worse). Oops. Here it is: --- Airplane.cpp21 May 2002 16:45:56 - 1.11 +++ Airplane.cpp27 May 2002

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASIM Compile problem?

2002-05-25 Thread Andy Ross
Darren Hammond wrote: I'm getting the following compile error in FlightGear with the latest CVS. Plib SimGear are also latest. undefined reference to `yasim::Airplane::setElevatorControl(int)' Do a make clean. This function was just recently added. Somehow your version didn't get

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Does yasim-747 work?

2002-05-25 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Andy Ross wrote: I don't think the most recent batch of updates has made it in yet. Attached is the current version I'm using. I can verify that it works for me. :) H...I installed the 747.xml and even did a make clean;make. Still having the same problem. Any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Does yasim-747 work?

2002-05-25 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Andy Ross wrote: I'm worried that I may have a platform-dependent bug here. gcc 2.95.2 here on linux. Could it be a hardware issue? Basically, it's just a math problem, and it *should* give the same answers on any hardware. Things like roundoff errors get corrected

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DC-3 ground handling. Fixed?

2002-05-24 Thread Andy Ross
Charlie Hotchkiss wrote: So, just for discussion's sake and noting that nobody with detailed knowledge of and experience with this aircraft has weighed in, I have questions. Isn't the L/D ratio at high angles of attack different (poorer) when in ground effect? Actually, it's better.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Does yasim-747 work?

2002-05-24 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Should the Yasim 747 work now? Are there any files that need to be checked into fgfsbase? I'm still getting the Solution Failure when starting up the 747...and at some point I'd like to animate the 747 model. I don't think the most recent batch of updates has made it in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ANN: Boeing 747-400 model

2002-05-24 Thread Andy Ross
Cameron Moore wrote: The only things I noticed that need fixing are the offset to get the model sitting on the ground correctly and there's a reference to a missing 747 panel in 747-yasim-set.xml. Agreed. It looks great. The offset problem is almost certainly due to a difference in

[Flightgear-devel] DC-3 ground handling. Fixed?

2002-05-23 Thread Andy Ross
: Andy Ross wrote: You started up the engines, firewalled the throttle, let the RPMs stablize, released the brakes, and the aircraft pitched *up*??? That's clearly unphysical. Why ? The nose pitches down with power and brake application. So, releasing the brakes makes the nose pitch up

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DC-3 takeoff roll: partial solution

2002-05-23 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: Note that I set castering=0 rather than removing the attribute completely. I saw it in a slow, taxiing turn at around 10kt or less, but I had done the modification myself before you posted yours. I'll try it with exactly your suggestion. Ah; this is my fault. You

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DC-3 takeoff roll: partial solution

2002-05-23 Thread Andy Ross
I wrote: Attached is the DC-3 file I was using last night, which maps the castering bit to /controls/tailwheel-castering. I lied again. Now it's attached. Andy -- Andrew J. RossNextBus Information Systems Senior Software Engineer Emeryville, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DC-3 ground handling. Fixed?

2002-05-23 Thread Andy Ross
I wrote: Major A wrote: I think the main problem really is the rapid increase in airspeed, which is unnatural, and doesn't occur if both engines are used. Bingo. This is a bug in the propeller code [...] (I'm pretty sure it used to work -- I remember doing hammerhead stalls in the A-4

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DC-3 ground handling. Fixed?

2002-05-23 Thread Andy Ross
Charlie Hotchkiss wrote: Perhaps I'm showing some ignorance here (I'm certainly not a pilot, much less an expert), but isn't the induced drag in that situation so large as to preclude reaching flying speed? The wings acting at that angle much like a drag brake? I read somewhere that pilots

Re: [Flightgear-devel] dc3-yasim model: engines?

2002-05-22 Thread Andy Ross
Alex Perry wrote: I don't know whether YASim models ground effect; if it does, the tailplane becomes more effective in ground effect and sucks the tail downwards. That'll exacerbate the torque of the forward gear mounting position. Oooh! Good point. YASim does indeed model ground effect

Re: [Flightgear-devel] dc3-yasim model: engines?

2002-05-22 Thread Andy Ross
Whee, here we go again. :) David Megginson wrote: Andy -- can you actually manage the DC-3 in a ground roll and takeoff? I have not been able to do so for a long time -- it always ends up spinning like a top. If you can do it, perhaps it would help if you posted a step-by-step. First off,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DC-3 takeoff roll: partial solution

2002-05-22 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: 1. According to the author, at least, differential braking is bad form while taxiing the DC-3; you should use differential power instead except for very tight turns. I'll buy that. But working dual throttles during the takeoff and landing rolls can't possibly be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: New YASim files for base package

2002-05-22 Thread Andy Ross
Alex Romosan wrote: is anybody able to fly the yasim planes with latest cvs and the above patch? i keep getting: YASim SOLUTION FAILURE: Solution failed to converge after 1 iterations for the a4, harrier, 747. I appear to have goofed something up with the posted planes. Or perhaps

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DC-3 takeoff roll: partial solution

2002-05-22 Thread Andy Ross
Major A wrote: Sorry, sorry, that should have read tail stuck IN the ground. Attached screenshot taken within 3sec after releasing brakes, after this, the plane pitches up even more, and fgfs hangs, moaning about terrain intersections. Maybe it's the two fronts wheels taking off rather than

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: New YASim files for base package

2002-05-21 Thread Andy Ross
Melchior FRANZ wrote: When I reported the 747 problem, it had nothing to do with approaching. The 747 didn't work at all! Not even the scenery was shown, before fgfs aborted. Just the HUD and the sky. Right. That was a simpler problem -- a bad configuration file in the archive that, ahem, no

[Flightgear-devel] YASim 747 solution failure [was: Failed to load 3D model]

2002-05-20 Thread Andy Ross
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Err ... I'd say it doesn't run because there seems to be some nasty bug in Yasim or its 747 data. I =do= have a 747 model installed, and this is what I get before fgfs aborts: YASim solution results: Iterations: 10002 Drag Coefficient: 13.1075

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: YASim 747 solution failure [was: Failedto load 3D model]

2002-05-20 Thread Andy Ross
Alex Romosan wrote: Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remaining outstanding YASim bugs are (people should shout if I've forgotten something): i don't know if this a bug or if that's how the modeling is supposed to work but the a4 is almost unflyable. when i use the controls the plane

[Flightgear-devel] New YASim files for base package

2002-05-20 Thread Andy Ross
I just commited a YASim patch to fix the approach lift problem I mentioned this morning. The 747, in particular, behaves much more sanely on approach. (But remember the fuel load! The model now starts at only 50% tanks, but that's still quite heavy for an approach). The patch requires new

Re: [Flightgear-devel] uncool easter egg

2002-05-19 Thread Andy Ross
Martin Henne wrote: Tony Peden wrote: OK, ha, ha, funny, funny. Joke's over. Curt, David: I humbly request that such patches not be accepted in the future. I definitely agree. It's a violation of almost every netiquette rule, that is concerned to virus-like behaviour or bandwith

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Environment subsystem status

2002-05-16 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: So what is the SI unit for direction/heading? Certainly they wouldn't overload unit names, right? :-) Oooh, here's a good one! There *are* no unit names for angles. Angles are unitless numbers. So to be strict, the SI unit for heading must be the radian. :) FWIW,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Environment subsystem status

2002-05-16 Thread Andy Ross
Christian Mayer wrote: (Note: degrees are still valid as they are *internationally* well known. slugs aren't) Actually, there's a very good reason why we use a 360 degree circle. This number has loads of small integer divisors. What's the inner angle between the walls of a 4-sided room? 90

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FDMs and external atmosphere

2002-05-16 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: Ralph Jones writes: It would, indeed, be nice to have a vertical velocity model for simulating soaring flight. I'm still trying to run down stability derivatives for my sailplane! It will be easy to allow you to specify up- or down-drafts for specific areas; it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] plotting/logging tool

2002-05-16 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Here's an interesting option. Recently, I've been chatting with the author of the KFlog project (http://www.kflog.org/) What an unfortunate name. Am I the only one who read that and thought Hm... I wouldn't really have though KDE needed a flogging application on the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment subsystem status

2002-05-15 Thread Andy Ross
Christian Mayer wrote: And there are already 1.5 - 2 FDMs that use SI units (BalloonSim and much more important YASim). Woo hoo! Just a few short months in the source tree and already YASim is *much* more important than BaloonSim. World domination, here I come! As far as the SI vs. English

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Trees, alpha, and the sky

2002-05-02 Thread Andy Ross
Wolfram Kuss wrote: Andy Ross wrote: You could also experiment with turning off backface culling instead of rendering two quads for each direction. In principle, it should be faster. In practice, it's probably a good way to detect driver bugs. :) The speed difference will be very

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Propeller animation speed fix

2002-05-02 Thread Andy Ross
Julian Foad wrote: The original code assumed that dt was in milliseconds. The variable name velocity_rpms presumably stood for revs per millisecond. Your patch assumes that dt is in 1/120ths of a second. I believe, although I am not authortative on this, that the dt parameter specifies an

[Flightgear-devel] Propeller animation speed fix

2002-04-30 Thread Andy Ross
Here's a patch to model.cxx that restores the proper rotation speed of the propeller spin. It just replaces the single 1/6 constant with one that is (hopefully) more clearly derivable from basic principles. The original number was off by a factor of 3/25; maybe something got

Re: [Flightgear-devel] View Oddity Between MagicCarpet and JSBSim

2002-04-29 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Andy, I think YASim has a bug. :-) YASim: 0.00 AGL 4.946215 ASL YASim is saying that the CG is exactly on the ground level which is physically impossible. It compensates by saying the ground level is 4.9' above the real

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap positions

2002-04-19 Thread Andy Ross
Erik Hofman wrote: Well It's making it slightly difficult for the sound code. But I saw YASim does the same. These numbers are actually generated by the panel code, not the FDM. Both FDMs just seek the position to the specified control input. In this case, the panel code adds or subtracts

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Panel not updating

2002-04-18 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: 1. They're hard to use from inside the 3D cockpit, at least until Andy gets mouse clicks working on his wrap-around panel; and I'm still here, I promise! Hopefully I'll have a good whole day this weekend to devote to flight gear stuff. For those interested in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Propellor graphics

2002-04-17 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Yes, the propellor spins way to slowly compared to engine rpm. This might be intentional so that it maintains 'smooth' animation. But, it is maybe just a little noticably too slow ... Actually, I think this is a recent change. I remember doing some back of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim C172 idle

2002-04-15 Thread Andy Ross
Martin Spott wrote: Andrew Ross wrote: Here's a gedanken experiment A _what_ ? Is this a valid word in your language ? I'm asking because it definitely has german roots, the word 'gedanken' That's funny, The word is, in fact, german. Whether it's valid English or not is an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim C172 idle

2002-04-14 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: Andy Ross writes: All that being said, did the configuration patch for the takeoff RPMs do what you want? It was better justified than the idle hack. :) The plane seems to take off OK, but there are handling problems -- in a 72kt climb at full power, the nose

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim C172 idle

2002-04-14 Thread Andy Ross
Simon Fowler wrote: Andy Ross wrote: I'm actually fuzzy on the real reason that high-wing aircraft have a built-in dihedral-like effect. Take a look at http://www.monmouth.com/~jsd/how/htm/roll.html . . . Right. That's basically what I meant by fuzzy -- I understand how the effect

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: I think we've always used +z up. YASim uses +z down internally, if I recall correctly, but that shouldn't affect anything else. Heh, actually... YASim is +z up too. For the record, the YASim internal aircraft coordinate frame: + Take your right hand. + Point your

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