Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-07 Thread Wol
On 07/08/2024 14:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Wol. On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 23:08:42 +0100, Wol wrote: On 06/08/2024 19:31, Alan Mackenzie wrote: So, is it possible in Wayland to record a configuration of windows, their sizes and positions, then restore these on starting a program again?

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-07 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Wol. On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 23:08:42 +0100, Wol wrote: > On 06/08/2024 19:31, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > So, is it possible in Wayland to record a configuration of windows, > > their sizes and positions, then restore these on starting a program > > again? If not, that would appear to be a

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-07 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 7 August 2024 10:04:28 BST Matt Jolly wrote: > Hi, > > On 6/8/24 02:58, Wols Lists wrote: > > Last I investigated, sddm had a *hard* dependency on X11. So even if > > you're running a Wayland system (like I am) you need X installed so that > sddm will work. > > > That's not

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-07 Thread Matt Jolly
Hi, On 6/8/24 02:58, Wols Lists wrote: > Last I investigated, sddm had a *hard* dependency on X11. So even if you're running a Wayland system (like I am) you need X installed so that sddm will work. That's not quite correct; it's been possible to run SDDM directly as a Wayland session for

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-07 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 07/08/2024 01:09, Dale wrote: >> Well choke me until I look like a Smurf.  ROFLMBO  That worked.  As >> soon as I clicked that, it went to the / directory.  It seems to >> stick there.  It actually changed it for every instance I have >> running too.  It seems that Dolphin

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/08/2024 01:09, Dale wrote: Well choke me until I look like a Smurf.  ROFLMBO  That worked.  As soon as I clicked that, it went to the / directory.  It seems to stick there.  It actually changed it for every instance I have running too. It seems that Dolphin wants to run as one instance

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/08/2024 00:02, Dale wrote: Well, it does it when I'm actually doing things like typing a email or something.  Plus, most energy saving stuff is disabled.  It has to stay on so I can watch TV anyway.  Odd tho, only the main monitor does it. The second monitor stays on and so does the TV. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-06 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 06:02:47PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >>> The /mnt or any other /* directories will show up both when you click the / >>> partition Label on the 'Devices' side panel section and when you click Root >>> in >>> the 'Places' section. >>> >> True but I

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-06 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 06:02:47PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > The /mnt or any other /* directories will show up both when you click the / > > partition Label on the 'Devices' side panel section and when you click Root > > in > > the 'Places' section. > > > > True but I rarely use that panel,

Re[3]: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile firefox::rapid with +lto +pgo

2024-08-06 Thread Stefan Schmiedl
Sorry ... fat-fingered that one -- Original Message -- From "Stefan Schmiedl" To gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date 07.08.2024 01:02:38 Subject Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile firefox::rapid with +lto +pgo -- Original Message -

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-06 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 6 August 2024 08:16:04 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> As most know, I've built a new rig. I've fixed a lot of things over the >> past couple weeks but I've got one thing that I just can't figure out. >> Dolphin is the default file manager and it works well enough.

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile firefox::rapid with +lto +pgo

2024-08-06 Thread Stefan Schmiedl
-- Original Message -- From "efeizbudak" To gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date 06.08.2024 20:27:36 Subject Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile firefox::rapid with +lto +pgo Do you have any idea why that might have happened? If I read your emerge --info correctly, a pri

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Wol
On 06/08/2024 22:40, Arsen Arsenović wrote: That's indeed the case, XDG and freedesktop and the X consortium being behind Wayland certainly helped adoption. Well, Wayland is - effectively - X13. Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Arsen Arsenović
hi Alan, thank you for maintaining CC mode :-) it is endlessly useful in my day-to-day. to preface, I'm not a wayland protocol expert; I've had to debug clients and servers a few times, view communications between clients and servers some others, experimented with some patches, but I haven't

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Wol
On 06/08/2024 19:31, Alan Mackenzie wrote: So, is it possible in Wayland to record a configuration of windows, their sizes and positions, then restore these on starting a program again? If not, that would appear to be a design bug in Wayland. What am I missing? That - unlike X - is because

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Arsen Arsenović
"J. Aho" writes: > On 06/08/2024 15.56, Arsen Arsenović wrote: >> "J. Aho" writes: >> >>> On 05/08/2024 18.30, Daniel Frey wrote: Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? >>> >>> There are still issues with wayland, not sure how up to date this page is: >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Daniel Frey writes: > On 8/6/24 06:56, Arsen Arsenović wrote: >> "J. Aho" writes: >> - Wayland breaks screensavers - ironically, those never worked on X, but >>do on wayland, because the compositor can actually redirect keys >>properly rather than trying to patchwork around X > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing Gentoo before install on new laptop

2024-08-06 Thread Michael
Hi Alexis, On Tuesday, 6 August 2024 15:43:21 BST Alexis Praga wrote: > Dear fellow Gentoo users, > > For the first time in 15 years, I have bought a new (and recent too !) > laptop (Yoga 7 Gen 9). Is there a way to test Gentoo on it before > installing it ? You can try the LiveUSB, but unless

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread J. Aho
On 06/08/2024 15.56, Arsen Arsenović wrote: "J. Aho" writes: On 05/08/2024 18.30, Daniel Frey wrote: Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? There are still issues with wayland, not sure how up to date this page is:

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Arsen. On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 15:56:40 +0200, Arsen Arsenović wrote: > "J. Aho" writes: > > On 05/08/2024 18.30, Daniel Frey wrote: > >> Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? > > There are still issues with wayland, not sure how up to date this page is: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile firefox::rapid with +lto +pgo

2024-08-06 Thread efeizbudak
Do you have any idea why that might have happened? On 2024-08-06 20:22, Eli Schwartz wrote: On 8/6/24 2:03 PM, efeizbudak wrote: I am on a musl system and I cannot compile www-client/firefox-128.0.3 with +lto +pgo flags. The compilation runs fine otherwise. Can anyone point me in the right

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile firefox::rapid with +lto +pgo

2024-08-06 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 8/6/24 2:03 PM, efeizbudak wrote: > I am on a musl system and I cannot compile www-client/firefox-128.0.3 > with +lto +pgo flags. The compilation runs fine otherwise. Can anyone > point me in the right direction? > > Here are the logs: > build.log: http://0x0.st/XVSx.txt > emerge --info:

[gentoo-user] Cannot compile firefox::rapid with +lto +pgo

2024-08-06 Thread efeizbudak
I am on a musl system and I cannot compile www-client/firefox-128.0.3 with +lto +pgo flags. The compilation runs fine otherwise. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Here are the logs: build.log: http://0x0.st/XVSx.txt emerge --info: https://paste.gentoo.zip/hSkfCD7R emerge -pqv:

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/08/2024 16:28, Michael wrote: to see if you can set / in there? I don't know if this might affect it permanently, rather than on startup, but its worth trying. You can also set it on the startup command, so if you went in and edited the appropriate .desktop file, you can always tell it

[gentoo-user] Testing Gentoo before install on new laptop

2024-08-06 Thread Alexis Praga
Dear fellow Gentoo users, For the first time in 15 years, I have bought a new (and recent too !) laptop (Yoga 7 Gen 9). Is there a way to test Gentoo on it before installing it ? I was thinking of using the Live GUI usb to ensure the following works : - GPU (integrated AMD 780), especially with

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-06 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 6 August 2024 08:16:04 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > As most know, I've built a new rig. I've fixed a lot of things over the > past couple weeks but I've got one thing that I just can't figure out. > Dolphin is the default file manager and it works well enough. It's > better than

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Daniel Frey
On 8/6/24 06:56, Arsen Arsenović wrote: "J. Aho" writes: - Wayland breaks screensavers - ironically, those never worked on X, but do on wayland, because the compositor can actually redirect keys properly rather than trying to patchwork around X I actually forgot about this one - the

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Wols Lists writes: > On 05/08/2024 17:30, Daniel Frey wrote: >> 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/SDDM and when logging in it appears >> to start on a new VT and sometime it doesn't start. Or it will start the new >> VT and fail to switch to it, leaving a text console and a blinking >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Daniel Frey writes: > Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? > > I did a switchover to systemd/wayland some time ago and it seemed to solve > some > problems I had. > > The problem is it also came with so many more issues than it fixed: > > 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Michael
On Monday, 5 August 2024 23:56:02 BST Daniel Frey wrote: > On 8/5/24 09:58, Wols Lists wrote: > > On 05/08/2024 17:30, Daniel Frey wrote: > >> 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/SDDM and when logging in it > >> appears to start on a new VT and sometime it doesn't start. Or it will > >> start

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Arsen Arsenović
"J. Aho" writes: > On 05/08/2024 18.30, Daniel Frey wrote: >> Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? > > There are still issues with wayland, not sure how up to date this page is: > https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277 it's either out of date or

Re: [gentoo-user] Another hitch with get-binpkg

2024-08-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 5 August 2024 17:51:38 BST Waldo Lemmer wrote: > Hi Peter, > > You seem to have misplaced a double-quote. It should be: > > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="${EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS} --usepkg-exclude > 'dev-lang/yasm"' emerge -1 yasm Actually, your 'dev-lang/yasm"' should have been

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Michael
On Monday, 5 August 2024 17:30:56 BST Daniel Frey wrote: > Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? > > I did a switchover to systemd/wayland some time ago and it seemed to > solve some problems I had. > > The problem is it also came with so many more issues than it fixed: > > 1.

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 6 August 2024 09:29:15 BST byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > On 05/08/2024 23:56, Daniel Frey wrote: > > I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems. It does make me wonder > > though if the discrete video card (nvidia) is the cause of some/most of > > these problems. > > If I

Re: [Possible phishing attempt] Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread byte . size226
On 05/08/2024 23:56, Daniel Frey wrote: I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems. It does make me wonder though if the discrete video card (nvidia) is the cause of some/most of these problems. If I were to 'guess', I think it's the Nvidia drivers and less to do with Wayland

[gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-06 Thread Dale
Howdy, As most know, I've built a new rig.  I've fixed a lot of things over the past couple weeks but I've got one thing that I just can't figure out.  Dolphin is the default file manager and it works well enough.  It's better than the old Konqueror in most ways.  I wish it would do man pages

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread J. Aho
On 05/08/2024 18.30, Daniel Frey wrote: Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? There are still issues with wayland, not sure how up to date this page is: https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277 My SailfishOS based phone uses wayland and on that it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-05 Thread Dale
Daniel Frey wrote: > Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? > > I did a switchover to systemd/wayland some time ago and it seemed to > solve some problems I had. > > The problem is it also came with so many more issues than it fixed: > > 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/SDDM

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-05 Thread Daniel Frey
On 8/5/24 09:42, Waldo Lemmer wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2024, 18:31 Daniel Frey > wrote: 2. Sometimes video hardware acceleration just doesn't work. Now I do have a discrete nVidia card with the proprietary driver, but I switched to nouveau and it didn't work

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-05 Thread Daniel Frey
On 8/5/24 09:58, Wols Lists wrote: On 05/08/2024 17:30, Daniel Frey wrote: 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/SDDM and when logging in it appears to start on a new VT and sometime it doesn't start. Or it will start the new VT and fail to switch to it, leaving a text console and a

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/08/2024 17:30, Daniel Frey wrote: 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/SDDM and when logging in it appears to start on a new VT and sometime it doesn't start. Or it will start the new VT and fail to switch to it, leaving a text console and a blinking cursor. This didn't happen when

Re: [gentoo-user] Another hitch with get-binpkg

2024-08-05 Thread Waldo Lemmer
Hi Peter, You seem to have misplaced a double-quote. It should be: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="${EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS} --usepkg-exclude 'dev-lang/yasm"' emerge -1 yasm Though I don't understand why you dont't just pass the option to emerge directly: emerge -1 --usepkg-exclude 'dev-lang/yasm" yasm

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-05 Thread Waldo Lemmer
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024, 18:31 Daniel Frey wrote: > 2. Sometimes video hardware acceleration just doesn't work. Now I do > have a discrete nVidia card with the proprietary driver, but I switched > to nouveau and it didn't work either. Again, not an issue in X11. > > I have a nVidia RTX 3070 Ti.

[gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-05 Thread Daniel Frey
Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? I did a switchover to systemd/wayland some time ago and it seemed to solve some problems I had. The problem is it also came with so many more issues than it fixed: 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/SDDM and when logging in it

[gentoo-user] Another hitch with get-binpkg

2024-08-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
Greetings, Today's update included dev-lang/yasm 1.3.0-r1 >1.3.0-r2. It failed because the binpkg was not yet on the local mirror, so I tried this: prh@cube ~ $ EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="${EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS} --usepkg-exclude 'dev-lang/yasm' emerge -1 yasm" prh@cube ~ $ So you can't exclude a

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/08/2024 10:54, Dale wrote: I figure the first step, find a new email provider.  Then find out what software works best with it.  I so want to get away from gmail. Step 1 - look for a nice domain (mine belongs to my brother). Step 2 - look for a small(ish) Internet Services Provider which

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/08/2024 10:54, Dale wrote: I've read about people pulling their hair out trying to set up email software and it sounds like a nightmare and they know more about it than I do.  I'd like to do this but I'd need a good howto. Thing is, there's too many jobs required to process email, and in

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-04 Thread Dale
lose any emails.  Keep in mind, I keep most emails for good.  I may have the first email I ever sent and received here somewhere.  I also sort emails into sub directories.  Example.  All gentoo-user emails go into a folder named gentoo-user.  I have similar filters for other things like banking

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-04 Thread William Kenworthy
On 4/8/24 16:11, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/08/2024 18:15, Dale wrote: Well, what I'd like to do, install a email program that fetches the emails and then stores them on my system.  Then I can have Thunderbird or any other email program connect to that and view, create, send or whatever

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/08/2024 18:15, Dale wrote: Well, what I'd like to do, install a email program that fetches the emails and then stores them on my system.  Then I can have Thunderbird or any other email program connect to that and view, create, send or whatever emails.  Thing is, setting up the first

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-03 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 12:15:55PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> :-) :-) > > There is Seamonkey documentation, but there are loads of how to's for > > Mozilla > > products. If Seamonkey is mostly the same as Firefox/Thunderbird, you can > > take look at the Thunderbird resources to find out how

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-03 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 3 August 2024 06:55:53 BST Dale wrote: >> Waldo Lemmer wrote: >>> Chrome violates the HTML5 spec in many ways, and many web developers >>> only test their sites in Chrome, so some sites occasionally break in >>> Firefox. The situation has improved a lot over the

Re: [gentoo-user] Automatic e-mail fetching/checking in SeaMonkey Mail (was: Re: Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.)

2024-08-03 Thread Dale
Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2024-08-03, Dale wrote: > >> I really need to switch to a better email provider.  Thing is, I'd like >> to set it up so that I have a email program that fetches my emails and >> then I just connect locally to read them. After all, Seamonkey stopped >> fetching emails

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-03 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 3 August 2024 06:55:53 BST Dale wrote: > Waldo Lemmer wrote: > > Chrome violates the HTML5 spec in many ways, and many web developers > > only test their sites in Chrome, so some sites occasionally break in > > Firefox. The situation has improved a lot over the years, though. > > > >

[gentoo-user] Automatic e-mail fetching/checking in SeaMonkey Mail (was: Re: Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.)

2024-08-03 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2024-08-03, Dale wrote: > I really need to switch to a better email provider.  Thing is, I'd like > to set it up so that I have a email program that fetches my emails and > then I just connect locally to read them. After all, Seamonkey stopped > fetching emails automatically long ago. I think

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-02 Thread Dale
Waldo Lemmer wrote: > > Chrome violates the HTML5 spec in many ways, and many web developers > only test their sites in Chrome, so some sites occasionally break in > Firefox. The situation has improved a lot over the years, though. > > Firefox has a channel through which broken sites can be

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-02 Thread Waldo Lemmer
Chrome violates the HTML5 spec in many ways, and many web developers only test their sites in Chrome, so some sites occasionally break in Firefox. The situation has improved a lot over the years, though. Firefox has a channel through which broken sites can be reported:

[gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-02 Thread Dale
Howdy, I'm getting used to this new puter still.  Also, this keyboard is still giving me typo problems.  Hang in there with me.  First, Seamonkey has issues with a lot of sites.  I tend to only use it for sites that require no login info.  Basically, doing searches or clicking on links in email

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-08-01 Thread Jacques Montier
Le jeu. 1 août 2024 à 15:26, Michael a écrit : > On Thursday, 1 August 2024 13:38:33 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > Le jeu. 1 août 2024 à 13:39, Michael a écrit > : > > > On Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:24:29 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > > > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael a > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-08-01 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 1 August 2024 13:38:33 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > Le jeu. 1 août 2024 à 13:39, Michael a écrit : > > On Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:24:29 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael a > > > > écrit : > > > > Looks like a possibility, if this started

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-08-01 Thread Jacques Montier
Le jeu. 1 août 2024 à 13:39, Michael a écrit : > On Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:24:29 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael a > écrit : > > > > Looks like a possibility, if this started when you ran an update of the > > > desktop, or changed some cinnamon/gnome

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-08-01 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:24:29 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael a écrit : > > Looks like a possibility, if this started when you ran an update of the > > desktop, or changed some cinnamon/gnome settings. Play around with the > > auto- > > mount USB drive

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-08-01 Thread Jacques Montier
Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael a écrit : > On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 17:37:17 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 16:49, Michael a > écrit : > > > On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 10:36:20 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > For a few days, my two

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-07-31 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 17:37:17 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 16:49, Michael a écrit : > > On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 10:36:20 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > For a few days, my two usb external disks do not automatically mount on > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-07-31 Thread Jacques Montier
Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 16:49, Michael a écrit : > On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 10:36:20 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > For a few days, my two usb external disks do not automatically mount on > > /run/media/ > > Have you changed your PC, USB port/hub, kernel or your udisks

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-07-31 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 10:36:20 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > Hello all, > > For a few days, my two usb external disks do not automatically mount on > /run/media/ Have you changed your PC, USB port/hub, kernel or your udisks version, before you noticed this? If you observed this on a

[gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-07-31 Thread Jacques Montier
Hello all, For a few days, my two usb external disks do not automatically mount on /run/media/ Those disks are successfully detected. - dmesg : 20.711135] usb 10-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1058, idProduct=2621, bcdDevice=10.34 [ 20.711144] usb 10-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1,

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 29 July 2024 21:12:35 BST gen...@dhaller.de wrote: > Hello, > > 29.07.2024 15:17:26 Peter Humphrey : > > I'd like to be able to shut a KDE machine down from another room, over > > SSH. > > https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-fro >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/29/24 4:09 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > Right, but that's only useful after you track down the trigger for the > new packages. What would be nice is avoiding that "tracking down" > effort. [I know, I should just relax, hit 'Y', and trust that emerge > and the devs know what they're doing.]

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread gentoo
Hello, 29.07.2024 15:17:26 Peter Humphrey : > I'd like to be able to shut a KDE machine down from another room, over SSH. https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-from-shell-without-root-privileges

[gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> [...] I (for one) would appreciate some sort of notice when such an >> unbundling happens so that I don't waste time trying to track down >> why emerge suddenly wants to install a bunch of new packages. I >> can't really come up with a good mechanism for

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 29 July 2024 16:10:10 BST Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey >> >> wrote: >>> On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote: On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/29/24 2:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> >>> It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI >>> paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are >>> thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like

[gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: > >> It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI >> paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are >> thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like >> that. Why does pip suddenly need to format

Re: [gentoo-user] 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Andreas Fink
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:01:19 - (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI > paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are > thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like > that. Devs are

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 29 July 2024 16:10:10 BST Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey > > wrote: > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote: > > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey

Re: [gentoo-user] 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/29/24 12:01 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > This morning a routine emerge -auvND wanted to install 17 new packages > for no apparent reason. > > Adding a 't' to the emerge options seems to point to pip, which now > wants to install a whole shed-load of new packages — among them >

[gentoo-user] 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
This morning a routine emerge -auvND wanted to install 17 new packages for no apparent reason. Adding a 't' to the emerge options seems to point to pip, which now wants to install a whole shed-load of new packages — among them dev-python/poetry and a bunch of markdown and rich-text libraries. Oh

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote: > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > > > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote: > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google > > > doesn't help me much, though it has a good deal

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:32 +0100, Michael wrote: > > loginctl terminate-session > That'll exit the desktop session. I was on the right track at least. I'm accustomed to doing it with xfce-session-logout signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Michael
On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google > > doesn't help > > me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on scripting inside KDE. > > loginctl

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google > doesn't help > me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on scripting inside KDE. loginctl terminate-session ^ would be the first thing I would try.

[gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
Greetings, I'd like to be able to shut a KDE machine down from another room, over SSH. If I do that with a simple 'reboot' command, I lose all my desktop contents. Not surprising, as KDE is not shutting itself down but having the rug yanked out from under it. Is there a way to pass a shutdown

Re: [gentoo-user] Emails are no indexable

2024-07-25 Thread Hank Leininger
for such a change to be made, because again I don't know that it would do any good). Also: >> On Monday, 8 July 2024 16:07:59 BST Vitaly Zdanevich wrote: >>> list - and nothing found. For example this mirroring >>> https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-user=171984189706185=2 - a

Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS and printer serial numbers

2024-07-25 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 24 July 2024 16:59:11 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > Is it possible to get CUPS to report the serial number of a > network-connected printer? Not from what I have come across. The commands lpstat and lpinfo do not show the S/N of my networked printer. I can't recall

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade problems with the latest llvm/clang

2024-07-24 Thread Jack
Sorry for the delay, but yes, after re-syncing, everything is working correctly. Thanks for the info. On 2024.07.23 17:52, Eli Schwartz wrote: On 7/23/24 5:37 PM, Jack wrote: > The latest eix-sync included clang and llvm 18.  Unfortunately, a full > emerge upgrade complains > > -

[gentoo-user] CUPS and printer serial numbers

2024-07-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, Is it possible to get CUPS to report the serial number of a network-connected printer? -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade problems with the latest llvm/clang

2024-07-23 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/23/24 5:37 PM, Jack wrote: > The latest eix-sync included clang and llvm 18.  Unfortunately, a full > emerge upgrade complains > > - media-libs/mesa-24.1.3::gentoo USE="X llvm lm-sensors (opengl) > proprietary-codecs vaapi vulkan wayland zstd -d3d9 -debug -opencl > -osmesa (-selinux) -test

[gentoo-user] Upgrade problems with the latest llvm/clang

2024-07-23 Thread Jack
The latest eix-sync included clang and llvm 18. Unfortunately, a full emerge upgrade complains - media-libs/mesa-24.1.3::gentoo USE="X llvm lm-sensors (opengl) proprietary-codecs vaapi vulkan wayland zstd -d3d9 -debug -opencl -osmesa (-selinux) -test -unwind -valgrind -vdpau

Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor, new problem. Everything LARGE O_O

2024-07-22 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 21 July 2024 16:20:54 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Oopsie, I found this mail in my drafts folder just now, where it’s been > sitting since the ninth. Perhaps I had to pause writing, but now I can’t > remember anymore. So I’ll just send it off. ;-) > > Am Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at

Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant: Wi-Fi works for all points, excluding one in the caffee

2024-07-21 Thread William Kenworthy
In this line it looks like a space after "Lali" ... BillK On 22/7/24 00:19, Vitaly Zdanevich wrote: wlp3s0: 3: a0:8c:f8:78:01:50 ssid='Lali ' wpa_ie_len=26 rsn_ie_len=24 caps=0x1411 level=-59 freq=243

Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant: Wi-Fi works for all points, excluding one in the caffee

2024-07-21 Thread Vitaly Zdanevich
SOLVED - name has space at the end. On 7/21/24 20:19, Vitaly Zdanevich wrote: Hi, my old Android 8 phone and Ubuntu on the same laptop connects to this point, but not Gentoo. I see this point in `wpa_cli scan_result` as [WPA-PSK-CCMP+TKIP][WPA2-PSK-CCMP+TKIP][ESS] Lali My config in the

[gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant: Wi-Fi works for all points, excluding one in the caffee

2024-07-21 Thread Vitaly Zdanevich
Hi, my old Android 8 phone and Ubuntu on the same laptop connects to this point, but not Gentoo. I see this point in `wpa_cli scan_result` as [WPA-PSK-CCMP+TKIP][WPA2-PSK-CCMP+TKIP][ESS] Lali My config in the same format as for other points: network={     ssid="Lali"     psk="mypass"     

Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor, new problem. Everything LARGE O_O

2024-07-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Oopsie, I found this mail in my drafts folder just now, where it’s been sitting since the ninth. Perhaps I had to pause writing, but now I can’t remember anymore. So I’ll just send it off. ;-) Am Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 12:02:47AM +0100 schrieb Michael: > On Monday, 8 July 2024 21:21:19 BST

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/init-system-helpers fails. Trying to install needrestart.

2024-07-21 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 21 July 2024 02:38:46 BST Dale wrote: >> Dale wrote: >>> Howdy, >>> >>> I did my weekly update the other day a little early. Anyway, I need to >>> install needrestart but a package fails to build that it depends on. >>> This is the short error message. >>> >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/init-system-helpers fails. Trying to install needrestart.

2024-07-21 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 21 July 2024 02:38:46 BST Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > I did my weekly update the other day a little early. Anyway, I need to > > install needrestart but a package fails to build that it depends on. > > This is the short error message. > > > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/init-system-helpers fails. Trying to install needrestart.

2024-07-20 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I did my weekly update the other day a little early.  Anyway, I need to > install needrestart but a package fails to build that it depends on.  > This is the short error message.  > > > > root@Gentoo-1 / # cat >

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 6.9 panic....

2024-07-20 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 20 July 2024 18:52:33 BST Alan Grimes wrote: > Because I did everything precisely the same as I did last time I updated > my kernel, nothing worked. =| > > Basically the old .config is coppied to the new kernel, and I run it > with "make -j 60 ; make install modules_install " Try it

[gentoo-user] kernel 6.9 panic....

2024-07-20 Thread Alan Grimes
Because I did everything precisely the same as I did last time I updated my kernel, nothing worked. =| Basically the old .config is coppied to the new kernel, and I run it with "make -j 60 ; make install modules_install " Now there are config changes, I just took the default on all changed

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