Re: [Goanet] Cardinal's speech

2008-05-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
their's is the only true path. Also, I personally would like to know how many educated people would reject the now well-established scientific findings, implied in the following quote, that we cannot think, imagine or perceive anything without a living and intact brain. Cheers, Santosh

Re: [Goanet] Another mega-scam proposed by govt

2008-05-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- "Rajan P. Parrikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Boy, they are relentless, aren't they? When it > comes to education, the only thing the govt can think >of is pouring more concrete! > This is absolutely true. It seems that these people are looking for every opportunity to profit from the

Re: [Goanet] Cardinal's speech

2008-05-27 Thread Santosh Helekar
The following post does not address the issue I had raised, which is, how many educated people seriously think that science should have anything to do with unprovable supernatural beliefs. I would be surprised if more than a negligible minority would want the scope of science to be expanded in this

Re: [Goanet] Jaundice medicine - Help required

2008-05-27 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- "Frederick [FN] Noronha"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote: > > Is this pseudo-science? > No. It is a survey of who is using what to treat what they recognize as some kind of jaundice. To find out if any of those plants really work against infectious hepatitis, somebody has to do a study by properly a

Re: [Goanet] God or no God

2008-05-27 Thread Santosh Helekar
y O'Connor might say": "What is true, however, is that some mental representations, such as those of the teapot and other supernatural entities, do not have an observable existence outside of the brain. They do not exist as independent "facts in the world", as Cardinal Murphy O'Conno

Re: [Goanet] God or no God

2008-05-28 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't these quotes suggest that Einstein would have > supported the modern notion of intelligent design > and considered "most so-called atheists" to be >ignorant and utterly arrogant. > Almost all scientists, religious as well as non-religious, reg

[Goanet] Famous Goan Cancer Surgeon Makes a Curious Discovery

2008-05-28 Thread Santosh Helekar
Please read the following and be proud: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/HealthSci/Indian_makes_breast_cancer_discovery/articleshow/3078934.cms Cheers, Santosh

Re: [Goanet] God or no God

2008-05-29 Thread Santosh Helekar
Mario Goveia wrote: > >Einstein's utter humility about the unattainable >secrets of the harmony of the cosmos, his belief in a >God that reveals himself in the lawful harmony of all >that exists, and his humble recognition that there are >domains where scientific knowledge has not yet been >able to

Re: [Goanet] panchakarma at Ayurvedic Centre Saligao Goa

2008-06-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 5/29/08, dr sunita kasar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it was the first time i realised the imporatnce of the > primordial factors viz, air, water, fire, earth and space which had to do > >with the health. and the disturbance of functions similiar to their > properties causing disease

Re: [Goanet] Photos of Porvorim disaster

2008-06-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 6/8/08, anil desai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This Rajan Parrikar has turned out to be a complete fraud. > We all trusted him to be a true saffronite interested in exposing > the evil deeds of Muslim migrants and the building and mining > activities of Catholic and Muslim builders

Re: [Goanet] Re : Photos of Porvorim disaster

2008-06-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 6/9/08, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is this Dr. Anil Desai a medical doctor? Because nowadays > everyone likes to a Dr. prefix to their names, like Ph.Ds, > dentists, physiotherapists, etc. If he is a medical doctor, > I am ashamed that our medical pr

Re: [Goanet] Photos of Porvorim disaster

2008-06-11 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 6/11/08, edward desilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Who in their right mind would want to do PhD when they can > get a job? > 1. Those who seek jobs that require a Ph.D. degree as a minimum qualification. 2. Those who enjoy living a life making original contributions to the advanc

Re: [Goanet] Photos of Porvorim disaster (and the PhDs)

2008-06-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 6/12/08, edward desilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION IS DONE BY SCIENTISTS. Original > contributors are people with practical abilities and > instinct, not PhD.PhD people are copy cats. > What the above post says regarding the Ph.D. degree is quite obviously utt

Re: [Goanet] Photos of Porvorim disaster (and the PhDs)

2008-06-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 6/13/08, edward desilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is nothing ORIGINAL about PhD. > > Only Collages look for PhD people, (as I already said - to > mix like with like), if they cannot find one they give them > an honorary one. > Rajan can have another one for doing his research i

Re: [Goanet] Phds are time wasters?

2008-06-14 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 6/14/08, Samir Kelekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, what are you trying to say ? That non-Phds should sit > on their bum all day and something like google will fall in their > lap? > Samir, What he is trying to say is anybody can be a topper in high school and higher secondary

Re: [Goanet] Fw: Cardinal's speech

2008-06-15 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 6/15/08, Fr. Ivo C da Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Therefore, there is no sense in saying that "science > should not ignore supernatural ideas that are unprovable". > They are unprovable by empirical sciences. There is > verifiability of Faith. Let Theology take the responsibili

Re: [Goanet] Fw: Cardinal's speech

2008-06-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 6/15/08, Fr. Ivo C da Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >But it will enlighten Science in the meaning of the world and in the realm >>of values. > I hope most people will reject interference of this type. The meaning of scientific concepts and explanations as they relate to the na

[Goanet] Goanetter's Corruption Eradication Campaign - Report Cases on Goanet

2008-06-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
JoeGoaUK's anecdote about the Rs. 20,000 bribe suggests an interesting idea for exposing corrupt officials on Goanet. Citizens should be encouraged to report their personal encounters with corrupt officials in Goa. They should be allowed to do this anonymously if they want. The purpose is to exp

Re: [Goanet] Cardinal's speech

2008-06-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Fr. Ivo C da Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Science together with religion should discuss the phenomena that led to >the >acceptance of reincarnation and exorcism. > The above reveals a fundamental and fatal misunderstanding about the nature and purpose of science. Scie

Re: [Goanet] The Rape of Goa.....as a tool to Save Goa

2008-06-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 6/24/08, Sandeep Heble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Dr Santosh Helekar has brilliantly countered Rajan's crude >thoughts in the past. > I cannot match Rajan's brilliance even on matters on which he has not been interrogated by a committee of experts, n

Re: [Goanet] Bigotry on goanet - and Miguel Braganza

2008-06-29 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- South Asian Film Festival in Goa from Fri (June 27) to Mon (June 30)

Re: [Goanet] Bigotry on goanet - and Miguel Braganza

2008-06-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- South Asian Film Festival in Goa from Fri (June 27) to Mon (June 30)

Re: [Goanet] Bigotry on goanet - and Miguel Braganza

2008-07-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When one points a finger at someone else, there are about > three fingers that point back. > > With the definition provided, one needs to look at oneself > to know if one is a bigot. > > Trying to look for others who are bigot

Re: [Goanet] Lessons for Goa

2008-07-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Samir Kelekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Karnataka is also very focussed in high-tech area such as > IT , while in Goa the in thing is tourism and prostitution. > Haven't they banned boorxe and susegad Goans from migrating to Karnataka yet? How are they going to preserve

Re: [Goanet] Lessons for Goa

2008-07-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Samir Kelekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another guy, a good friend of mine now, told me that before > he met me, he had thought all Goans were degenerate. > Samir, Bebde calling them ghanti does not help, I guess. We are now being told that they were much cleaner 20 year

Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity Movement - Networking

2008-07-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
The material submitted below does not answer many basic questions. Here are a few of them: 1. What is meant by a unique Goan identity? 2. Is it associated with the land of Goa or its people? 3. If it is associated with the Goan people, what minimal characteristics define a person who possesses

Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity Movement - Networking New York Goans

2008-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
Arwin, I have more serious problems with the new material you have submitted. First, it appears that you are not able to answer the simple basic questions I had raised about your separatist movement. You also make erroneous assumptions about the views of the majority of Goans who are Indian cit

Re: [Goanet] Lessons for Goa

2008-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:11 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >We?don't have to bring in Bebdes and Dukhors in this discussion.? > >Cheers > >Anesimo?? > >BTW:?I am told that Biharis?to? indians is what a ghati is to Goans. I am >>learning something new everyday!?? > Why this bias against bebde an

Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity Movement - Networking New York Goans

2008-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Edward Verdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Santosh Bab, > I agree with you...I am proud to be an IndianI wear > kurta..and if i meet a fellow goan...I always talk to them in Konkani... > Eddiebab, Good to hear from you. Perhaps, you are unintentionally raising a very va

Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity Movement - Networking New York Goans

2008-07-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Arwin Mesquita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >No where in the Document, have I stated/implied that this identity movement >>is Anti-Indian; nor did I state that this was a separatist movement. > Are you now saying that your movement does not intend to ban any Indian citizen fr

Re: [Goanet] Goan identity movement - networking New York goans

2008-07-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 7/5/08, anil desai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I believe you should ignore people like Santosh Helekar who really do not >have anything positive to contribute. > I think Dotor Anil is mistaken here. I believe any person who puts forth a tangible argument on

Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity is NOT Anti-Indian

2008-07-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 7/5/08, Arwin Mesquita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is the need for Goa to preserve her Identity, Anti-Indian? I > surprisingly notice some using the "Indian card" to oppose a > genuine issue. (A) They don't understand the real perspective of India or > >(B) Vested Interests trying

Re: [Goanet] Decline of Panjim, and expanding slums in Goa

2008-07-07 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Sandeep Heble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >After going through the TOI report, I guess we all owe Rajan an apology. > >All this time, we were foolish to think that Rajan was "Anti-migrants". > >We now learn that because of Rajan's Petition, not only will the city be >much >

Re: [Goanet] Advantages of Oil @ $ 200 a barrel

2008-07-07 Thread Santosh Helekar
Marlon, Thanks for keeping a keen eye to counter the bogus ideological propaganda on Goanet. Cheers, Santosh --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Marlon Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone who calls these guys whako environmentalists, is probably a bigger > >whako himself! > > As far as some of th

Re: [Goanet] Goan Inquisition

2008-07-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
Richard Zimler has issued a strong rebuttal on Goa Research Net to the vacuous innuendo and prejudiced stereotyping that he has had to endure, both publicly and privately, from his detractors, on the basis of a fictional novel that none of them seems to have bothered to read. In addition to cri

Re: [Goanet] Goan Inquistion

2008-07-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 7/8/08, Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not funny President Pandu. We are responding to the > interview by the tailor. Has the book become fictional? > Xacuti, Are you one of the gaunti pacle who sent him abusive anti-semitic private emails in tambdi Ingleza? Cheers,

Re: [Goanet] Anti-Goan Identity Movement

2008-07-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
I can understand the dilemma that Arwin is going through. It stems from the simple fact that he cannot clearly define what he means by his unique Goan identity, and understand what good its preservation does him. Perhaps, he also feels a modicum of discomfort in the realization that he is as mu

Re: [Goanet] Indian Constitution on Goa’s Identity

2008-07-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canad

Re: [Goanet] Goan inquistion

2008-07-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canad

Re: [Goanet] Evaluating the Past

2008-07-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
It appears that the post quoted below, for some reason, is trying to defend the inquisition by drawing a non-existent analogy between it and early pre-scientific forms of medical treatment. It is true that we have progressed both morally and scientifically, but the strained analogy between moral

Re: [Goanet] Response to Ingrid's piece

2008-09-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >With reference to Ingrid Albuquerque's article, posted by Santosh, it >seems >to me that the writer has used the line the word 'Hindu' in the >nominative >sense for all Indians. > It is hard to agree with a lot of what Ingrid Albu

Re: [Goanet] Response to Ingrid's piece

2008-09-23 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 9/22/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The study of history shows that so far as this > sub-continent is concerned, persons who have made religion > their lifestyle have caused the greatest havoc to mankind. > Two of these proponents- MA Jinnah and LK Advani. Jinnah w

Re: [Goanet] Scientific literacy

2008-09-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Alfred de Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Dr. SantoshFr. Ivo... Dr. Joe... & sundry > others... > > What is this that follows below, my dears??? > > Urban or divine legend??? > > Please kindly...mercifully advise ...& lovingly > oblige > Chacha, Th

Re: [Goanet] Scientific literacy

2008-09-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
Fr. Ivo C da Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have read books on Eucharistic Miracles written by authors with >scientific > background. > The ignorance about what is meant by science and its purpose continues. Students of science know that a book about the supernatural does not become sc

Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites

2008-09-27 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 9/27/08, J. Colaco < jc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 4: If however, Santosh Helekar has requested information > (as a member from GoaNet) directly from GoaNet admin, this cannot (I > submit) be considered to be an action of any Kangaroo Court. If FN > dis

Re: [Goanet] Report on attack on Christians in Frontline

2008-09-29 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 9/28/08, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What has surprised and saddened me is the lack of open and > vigorous condemnation of the anti-Christian actions by the > otherwise moderate Hindus on Goanet. Perhaps their silence > is a manifestation of their embarrassment. >

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Moderation

2008-10-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Santosh Helekar had a message rejected recently (as he disclosed) and he >has >concluded who the moderator was. However he fails to mention that he >was >provided an explanation in the rejection note but

Re: [Goanet] Orissa may be a fit case for Article 356

2008-10-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
This is indeed a balanced view, which lays bare the whole truth, and suggests requisite actions. Please see the following quote: "Reports that Bajrang Dal and VHP goons have been intimidating Christians of Kandhamal to "convert back" to Hinduism by threatening them with economic cleansing and wors

Re: [Goanet] Scientific literacy

2008-10-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Fr. Ivo C da Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ***I do not understand the logic of Dr.Santosh. > This inability to understand is understandable given the evident lack of clarity about what constitutes genuine science, scientific facts and scientific explanations.

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Moderation

2008-10-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Bosco - Goanet Volunteer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RESPONSE: FALSE!! The moderator did the right thing and asked the poster to > direct his questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > This is quite a mystery! The above is a response to my following statement: "Regardi

Re: [Goanet] Scientific literacy

2008-10-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Fr. Ivo C da Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When I said that I "do not understand his logic" means that he is not > answering the problem raised by the phenomenon. > The above reveals the crux of the lack of understanding that I have been talking about - the

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Moderation

2008-10-06 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Bosco - Goanet Volunteer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RESPONSE: No! Goanet moderators are individuals who moderate Goanet; >Goanet > Admin manage and run different aspects of Goanet - its members >can moderate > Goanet too. The names of Goanet moderators have not been >pu

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Moderation

2008-10-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Bosco - Goanet Volunteer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > #1) You publicly stated what was not true about your rejected message. > I publicly stated that I was asked to send my questions to the Goanet moderators, not knowing that the address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" did not refer

Re: [Goanet] Kandhamal violence-is it communal?

2008-10-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
Good to see another broader perspective on this problem being posted here. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 10/12/08, Rina Mukherji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Contrary to what Indians here and Christians elsewhere have > been told by > evangelical missionaries, media and seculars, the Kandhamal

Re: [Goanet] British paper--The Times-- urges immediate central action to halt Orissa violence

2008-10-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Catholics and Hindus who have written anti-Christian and > anti-religion posts should examine their writings and now > pound their chest in remorse. > > The remorse should stem from the wasted years when these > intellectuals we

Re: [Goanet] Kandhamal violence-is it communal?

2008-10-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RESPONSE: Yes, unfortunately, the receiving end just happen > to be Christians and the dishing end happen to be Hindus. > The receiving end of communal violence are innocent people of all faiths, persuasions and perspectives. It

Re: [Goanet] Kandhamal violence-is it communal?

2008-10-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good to see another broader perspective on this problem > being posted here. > I am sorry, I just realized that S. Gurumurthy's perspective is also a partisan and political perspective. His organization a

Re: [Goanet] Kandhamal violence-is it communal?

2008-10-14 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > QUESTION: Are you calling my assertions as being partisan? > I have to go through all your posts on this issue to determine whether any of them are partisan. But here is an example of a partisan statement: "COMMENT: My commiserati

Re: [Goanet] Kandhamal violence-is it communal?

2008-10-14 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In my opinion, the only perspective that counts is that we > are seeing once again that anarchy lurks just below the > surface in certain segments of Indian society, ready to > erupt into wholesale violence at the slightest provocati

Re: [Goanet] Kandhamal violence-is it communal?

2008-10-15 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RESPONSE: Come off it man! No one who has commented on this > forum, has stated that there is a wide spread Hindu put down of the > Christian community or for that a Muslim one. You are insinuating > what has not been stated on thi

Re: [Goanet] Solidarity with Aires and Prajal

2008-10-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 10/16/08, George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Aires cares for Goa and I know he and Prajal will emerge well from this >>injustice with greater strength. Our best wishes to them, the good fight >has >a few causalities but good triumphs in the end. > The attacks on Aires and Pr

Re: [Goanet] Conversions, how acceptable?

2008-10-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Rina Mukherji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >*Mind you, not all Christian churches are into such proselytization, but >>there is a new crop of missions that makes this their agenda. It is this >>that must be opposed-in the cause of secularism and peace!* > There is nothing w

Re: [Goanet] Rina Mukherji sheds a blinding new light on Orissa violence -

2008-10-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Monica Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. Some Christian radical sects may be resorting to > conversion but one cannot assume all Christian sects are the same and > punish all the Christians. For instance, Rajni Mahsi, the poor girl who > was burnt to death, was a Hi

Re: [Goanet] Rina Mukherji sheds a blinding new light on Orissa violence

2008-10-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 10/18/08, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As the whole truth is claimed to be not known, one can engage in 'Pious > >Bigotry'. > I never knew Gilbert had such low respect for the whole truth and such low opinion of pious people or piety. Cheers, Santosh ___

Re: [Goanet] CRIMINALITY AND MORALITY

2008-10-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
What the following post says about genetics, homosexuality, biology and human behavior is utter nonsense. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Averthan D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Is Homosexuality genetically conditioned ? > >Another untenable argument being adduced for

Re: [Goanet] Rina Mukherji sheds a blinding new light on Orissa violence

2008-10-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The principle is: When one cannot argue the facts, > (through ignorance or bigotry) blame the questioner ... and > sound intelligent with a "questioning mind".  > Gilbert cannot bear the fact that I drew attention to the trut

Re: [Goanet] Rina Mukherji sheds a blinding new light on Orissa violence

2008-10-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 10/20/08, Alfred de Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >These, wit names and documentary evidence will be duly submitted to >>legitimate investigators, if the Indian Government (not to be confused >with >a *Orissa govt.' if any exists,) ever seriously sets up an impartial >>commiss

Re: [Goanet] Rina Mukherji sheds a blinding new light on Orissa violence

2008-10-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I do not know whether to laugh or to cry about YOUR desire for facts. > It is troubling to note that Gilbert cannot decide to laugh or cry when he is presented with the fact of a horrible and tragic death of an innocent human

Re: [Goanet] Panic Rooms

2008-10-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 10/22/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And that is why I feel disappointed when our intellectuals > who should be the catalysts for such action become armchair > discussion groups trying to put on airs of objectivity. > I am disappointed that activists fail to rec

Re: [Goanet] India has come to Melbourne ...

2008-10-23 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 10/22/08, Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >No wonder nobody believes Indians anymore. There appear to be more rotten >>apples than good ones at present. > To the extent that there are Goanetters who hold this low opinion of their fellow Indians, I wonder what th

Re: [Goanet] Hindu groups behind Malegaon, Modasa blasts: Cops

2008-10-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All apologists for the sangh parivar may treat this report as 'partisan > >propaganda' and / or 'rumour mongering' > A man who demonizes those who disagree with him on the need for objectivity, skepticism and levelheadedness

Re: [Goanet] Former VHP woman owned motorcycle used in Malegaon blast: Cops

2008-10-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > P.S. Statutory Warning: all apologists for the sangh parivar may treat >this > report as 'partisan propaganda' and/ or ' rumour mongering' > I would like to kindly request Marshall Mendonza not to keep repeating this derisiv

Re: [Goanet] Hindu groups behind Malegaon, Modasa blasts: Cops

2008-10-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are right indeed to give a health warning; Catholic Goans need to be > >afraid, very afraid indeed, I can see the VCD attack on the CM as a start > >to be destabilisation process. > How does this unprovoked comment promote t

Re: [Goanet] How brainwashing is done - a lesson for all

2008-10-26 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 10/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Is it any wonder that commumal strife if only getting aggravated? Was >Selma >entirely off the mark when she commented about an entire new >generation being >brought up on hate propaganda? > In stark contrast to this type of

Re: [Goanet] India has come to Melbourne ...

2008-10-26 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 10/26/08, Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What is it that makes them so? Is it their genes, > > upbringing, caste, color of the skin or religion? > > Ah! you're the scientist. This sort of analysis is your > forte, I should think. > I am not the one who belie

Re: [Goanet] How brainwashing is done - a lesson for all

2008-10-26 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 10/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I am intrigued how Santosh finds articles and news items exposing >hindutva >activities communal. > What I find ill-advised from the standpoint of promoting communal harmony in public forums are over-heated rhetoric, flame b

Re: [Goanet] How brainwashing is done - a lesson for all

2008-10-27 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 10/26/08, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It is the bigots that have been making the case (directly and indirectly) >>that the "violent Hindutva extremists" are the 'good guys' and there is >>absolutely no scientific proof and no logical reason to paint them the >'bad

Re: [Goanet] 'partisan propaganda' / 'rumour mongering'

2008-10-27 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 10/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. Santosh has arrogated to himself the right to pass > judgement on others, label or brand those who hold contrary > views from his and decide what is the truth and what is not. > False. Most of the times, I try to question

Re: [Goanet] 'parisan propaganda' and / or 'rumour mongering'

2008-10-28 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 10/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Finally, I must say that I am disappointed that Santosh lacks the >>intellectual honesty and humility to accept where he is wrong but would >>continue to flog and grind an issue until the other party gives up in >>exhaustion.

Re: [Goanet] How brainwashing is done - a lesson for all

2008-10-31 Thread Santosh Helekar
Earlier Gilbert had claimed that there are bigots on Goanet who stated that violent Hindu extremists are good guys, and that this fact somehow contradicts the following assertion of mine: "This article was forwarded to me by a level-headed mainstream Goan who rightly believes that the best way

Re: [Goanet] 'parisan propaganda' and / or 'rumour mongering'

2008-10-31 Thread Santosh Helekar
The failed attempts at deception in Marshall’s latest propaganda piece against me in this thread are: 1. He falsely implies that my short general comments on an Ingrid Albuquerque article that I posted are somehow different from a general comment that I made on a Gurumurthy article posted by so

Re: [Goanet] ‘Religion has become politicised ’- interview with Margaret Alva

2008-10-31 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 10/31/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Selma, I think you have the gift of prophesy. I remember > sometime back you advised the youth of Goa to leave Goa and > India and migrate abroad. > Here is a Times of India article on 174 religious and non-religious political

Re: [Goanet] An Open Letter to L K Advani by George Menezes

2008-11-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 11/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here is a typical christian response to the violence > unleashed against them. Love thy enemy. No hate, no > hypocrisy, no intellectual airs. > How are typical Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain, Parsi or other non-Christian

Re: [Goanet] An Open Letter to L K Advani by George Menezes

2008-11-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
I give below latest examples of partisan chauvinistic remarks, the likes of which are unlikely to promote communal harmony in this secular public forum. "I repeat again, my old advice to you: Become Christian and immediately U will have been 'Enlightened'!!! Your perception of everything even 'G

Re: [Goanet] An Open Letter to L K Advani by George Menezes

2008-11-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does applauding Gurumurthy contribute to communal harmony? > Does posting the article by Ingrid Albuquerque calling the > protest against the carnage in Orissa 'an unnecessary > furore' contribute to communal harmony? > Please

Re: [Goanet] It's the economy, stupid !!!

2008-11-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
If the low information voters elect Obama even after reading the highly rational and independent analysis below then they would have committed treason. Some indisputable facts that were inadvertently left out from this insightful missive are that this Osama is a Muslim and an anti-American Marxi

Re: [Goanet] It's the economy, stupid !!!

2008-11-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 11/4/08, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Even though he was listed as a Muslim as a small child on a > school registration form in Indonesia, Obama has been a > practicing Christian for the last twenty years, courtesy his > mentor and close family friend, Rev. Jeremiah Wrigh

Re: [Goanet] An Open Letter

2008-11-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Sometimes our personal equations take precedence over objectivity. > What? Now objectivity is a good thing? When did this change of mind occur? > >I am here to contribute positively and constructively. > I hope the above asser

Re: [Goanet] An Open Letter

2008-11-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 11/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He is as human like us with the same weaknesses and failings as any > of us. He too trips at times. > The above is an accurate characterization of what I am, biologically and psychologically. I wouldn't want to be any differen

[Goanet] The Promise of Obama

2008-11-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
Let me try to be objective and measured in expressing my thoughts at this incredible moment in our time. Nah! What the heck! This is my chance to be hyperbolic. This is the dawn of a new age in the glorious history of a great nation, in the unwritten destiny of this planet of sentient beings.

Re: [Goanet] An Open Letter

2008-11-06 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 11/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "The greatness of a person lies not in proving others > wrong but in accepting and acknowledging one's own > wrongs"- Annonymous > "A man who is happy to have human failings has no illusions of possessing greatness" - Lame Duk

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1431

2008-11-07 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Attempts are being made by a cabal on this forum in the form of a steady >>drumbeat to muzzle the conservative point of view by intolerant and >hateful >rethoric. We must guard against any such attempts against an >open and honest >

Re: [Goanet] Thanks, but no thanks

2008-11-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While supporting Obama and his policies, Marlon obviously > likes McCain because McCain is more like a Democrat than > most Republicans. Which is one reason he may have lost. > Many voters said, "Why vote for a Democrat-like > Repub

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1431

2008-11-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Marlon "heads" some anti-conservative contingent > on Goanet? Oh, really? That may come as a shock to him, > who was last heard from pretending to be a Libertarian:-)) > What a comedian, that Marlon:-)) > Everybody is conspiring a

Re: [Goanet] Hindutva terrorism

2008-11-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1431

2008-11-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
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Re: [Goanet] Hindutva terrorism

2008-11-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 11/8/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In an earlier posting when I had posted George Menezes' > article ' An Open Letter to L K Advani' with the > preface that it was a typical christian reaction to > violence, Santosh querried 'How are typical Hindu, > Muslim, Sikh,

Re: [Goanet] Hindutva terrorism

2008-11-10 Thread Santosh Helekar
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Re: [Goanet] Hindutva terrorism

2008-11-10 Thread Santosh Helekar
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Re: [Goanet] Bernado, Florian in a muddle over Sinari's Portuguese daughter!

2008-11-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
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