Re: [H] Server died again #5

2008-10-04 Thread DHSinclair
the rebuild, you should be able to use the drive as normal. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 7:34 PM To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] Server died again #5 New drives in hand. One

[H] Server died again #4

2008-10-03 Thread DHSinclair
Just status: new drive installed in RAID (0:5) The Quantum Atlas III is actually more quiet than the current IBM drives in the other 2 positions! Server is now attempting to re-build its' array. This is a good sign, no? The only odd visual is that the Adaptec bios screen now shows an added

[H] Server died again #5

2008-10-03 Thread DHSinclair
New drives in hand. One installed in the failed position. Server booted and held at the bios prompt (ctrl+A) for the raid array. All 3 drives NOW read optimal. In bios, I gave the RAID REBUID command. (at ~1400hrs, my time). It is now ~2020 my time. All I have witnessed (seen, heard) since is

Re: [H] Server died again #5

2008-10-03 Thread Greg Sevart
. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 7:34 PM To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] Server died again #5 New drives in hand. One installed in the failed position. Server booted and held

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread maccrawj
1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) DHSinclair wrote: Thank you Greg. Kind of terse, but I do fully comprehend your points. So far, my data loss will be any/all

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread Brian Weeden
I use JungleDisk and Amazon S3 for my personal offsite backup. I know it's not completely bulletproof, but for a couple bucks a month it's well worth it for the 10 GB of data I really, really care about. -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:50 PM, maccrawj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1TB

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread Winterlight
I can understand why this works for the general public who doesn't understand domains, ftp etc. But why is that a better deal for you then just buying a domain name from Goddady for 7-10 bucks a year and then having a free 10GB website that you can ftp into, and then upload your backup in an

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread DHSinclair
Thank you J., I will now go look at this. Like Seagate. But J. I still have not moved fully to WXP(oh, bad me!) I still wonder about USB. If this is your prescription, fine. It will take some time for me to get to some XP basline. I will look more into this. Why should I upgrade a

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread Ben Ruset
Many providers will cancel you for that, being as that it's a breach of their TOS. They make their money on oversubscribing disk. If you come along and break their business model with 10gb of data that's not web accessible for their $10/yr plan they will shut you down. Winterlight wrote: I

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread Brian Weeden
As a guy who understands ftp and hand codes his website, I can tell you that JungleDisk + Amazon S3 is just damn easy for everyone, not just users. First off, it's plenty secure. Everything can be done over SSL. And you set the password on your end and so all Amazon sees is random noise being

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread DHSinclair
Thank you Brian, It now seems that we do/approve of online storage. I will search and investigate this. I do know that many of this Lists' members have learned/done this. I salute this! You folks may be the true pioneers in this high-speed data stream. Off-LAN storage is not a critical topic

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread Brian Weeden
Online storage is just part of the overall backup solution. I of course have my own personal backups at home with redundant HDs. But that's of no use against things like floods or house fires. So the really critical data is backed up to a third-party offsite location where I may not be able to

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread DHSinclair
WinterLight, That is a really great question. I suppose you have been doing same for some years PAST with great (or grumbly) success. I still salute this. I never felt comfortable with the entire concept (at the time, or still.) OK. Now it is now. I do comprehend what you suggest. Time for

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread DHSinclair
Thank you Ben, I have seen this many times. No harm, no foul on how anybody else on the List chooses to use the infrastructure for whatever. I Am Not A Judge! I report only to ME and this LIST! Wow, that is short! But, I think I know where the gurus still hang out. Silly me perhaps. Duncan

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread Winterlight
At 12:21 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote: Many providers will cancel you for that, being as that it's a breach of their TOS. They make their money on oversubscribing disk. If you come along and break their business model with 10gb of data that's not web accessible for their $10/yr plan they will shut

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread Winterlight
At 12:29 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote: As a guy who understands ftp and hand codes his website, I can tell you that JungleDisk + Amazon S3 is just damn easy for everyone, not just users. what does that cost? First off, it's plenty secure. Everything can be done over SSL. And you set the

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread Ben Ruset
The longer you stick with using trailing edge hardware and software, the harder and harder it will be to support it. DHSinclair wrote: But, at my LAN, I feel I need to evaluate more options.

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread DHSinclair
Yes, Brian, You may need to go on. But, not ATM. I am still in a recovery stage. After this, I will get back to this. Right now, it appears to be a simple drive replacement. I will do this; and then come back... Then, I will find out whether the OS will play happy or not with my hdw.

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread DHSinclair
Ben, Thank you. This grumbly fact is generating a huge amount of angst at this address. I do get it. Really. I really do. Current problem is that ATM I can not afford W2K-Server 2006. $685.00 is not in the budget. ATM I have to recover the server I own w/the OS it thinks it may still be happy

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, I live on Wall Street. 2me, it is the real world. Heck, somehow it is what drives the emotions on the this List. ATM, I am not concerned. Most of my trades were years ago. I survive now on a pension agreed to when I started being a Xeroid many years ago. At 60, I think I live OK; not

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread DHSinclair
I know about GoDaddy. The List documented this well enough. Slow. Concerned. Looking. Duncan At 12:47 09/29/2008 -0700, you wrote: At 12:21 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote: Many providers will cancel you for that, being as that it's a breach of their TOS. They make their money on oversubscribing disk.

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread Ben Ruset
I have my fair share of old hardware in use, so please don't think I'm coming down on you. What I was getting at is that as hardware and software ages, your resources (driver downloads, updates, etc.) and general pool of knowledge available to help answer questions shrinks. I had to install

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread DHSinclair
I have zero idea what it may cost. I do not have a web site. I believe the this is the rage, but, I choose not to play. Yes, cost is, at this level, is a fair discussion. I get it. I am still at a hdw recovery level. Duncan At 12:50 09/29/2008 -0700, you wrote: At 12:29 PM 9/29/2008, you

Re: [H] server died again!

2008-09-29 Thread Soren
DHSinclair, If you can only get a partial boot before things start to look strange, it's probably a FUBAR'ed boot sector. If it was a failed disk, the SCSI controller (depending of brand and model) would go into rebuild mode, and w2k would not boot at all. Can you get a command prompt? If

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread James Maki
-Original Message- From: Ben Ruset $700 is steep for Win2k3. You could get an Action Pack, which would get you Win2k3 (or Win2k8 now) as well as pretty much every other piece of software that Microsoft makes for much, much cheaper. The catch, it has to be for home/demonstration

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread FORC5
Plus you will NOT get anything in the action pack as ancient as w2k, or maybe even xp now. Haven't subscribed for a couple of years now. fp At 06:51 PM 9/29/2008, James Maki Poked the stick with: -Original Message- From: Ben Ruset $700 is steep for Win2k3. You could get an Action

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-29 Thread maccrawj
No need to change OS just to do this, though USB is supported by everything newer than Win98. If you install SATA controller, you can patch that out the back to eSATA which the enclosure also supports. USB2 just means you have options if need arises to plug into a non-SATA system. Further,

Re: [H] server died again!

2008-09-28 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 07:34 PM 27/09/2008, DHSinclair wrote: No. I do NOT know that I have 2 failed drives. That was my posit at this point. Certainly, if I do have 2/3 dead, I would expect to be dead in the water completely. Kiss my last install and all my data goodbye! Am I close? Boo I suspect only one

Re: [H] server died again!

2008-09-28 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 07:34 PM 27/09/2008, DHSinclair wrote: No. I do NOT know that I have 2 failed drives. That was my posit at this point. Certainly, if I do have 2/3 dead, I would expect to be dead in the water completely. Kiss my last install and all my data goodbye! Am I close? I'd boot up with a recovery

Re: [H] server died again!

2008-09-28 Thread DHSinclair
Thane, Yes, I do plan to use my Bart's CD a bit later. I did one check last night b4 bed by booting into the low level bios for the A7499 chip of the RAID card -ctrlA - during the server post. This got me to the low-speed side of the card, but it is here that I can view/scan both of the card's

Re: [H] server died again!

2008-09-28 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 12:47 PM 28/09/2008, DHSinclair wrote: Thane, Yes, I do plan to use my Bart's CD a bit later. I did one check last night b4 bed by booting into the low level bios for the A7499 chip of the RAID card -ctrlA - during the server post. This got me to the low-speed side of the card, but it is

Re: [H] server died again!

2008-09-28 Thread DHSinclair
Thane, Yes I would suspect the scsi cable(s) first also. No, I have net even opened the server box yet. LOL! Every time I put my hands into this server too soon, I somehow muck something up. Not fear, just some healthy respect... :) Besides this one is so foreign to me in the past 33yr of

[H] server died again #2

2008-09-28 Thread DHSinclair
The server troubleshooting is on. I took the raid-cage loose from the server and found big time dust bunnies. Hmm. Seems I missed my June PM-another machine crash as my records show. Power on-goes to previously reported BSOD. OK, not dust bunnies. I then replaced the main scsi cable from the

Re: [H] server died again #2

2008-09-28 Thread Greg Sevart
Windows, or any other OS for that matter, will boot successfully from a degraded array. Windows itself has no knowledge of the array being optimal, degraded, or anything else--that's handled by the controller itself. The operating system doesn't even know anything about the individual disks

[H] server died again!

2008-09-27 Thread DHSinclair
Can anyone decode this BSOD, or, point me to which part of it to google for more info? ***Stop: 0x007B (0x88FF2AB0, 0xC032, 0x, 0x0...) Inaccessible_Boot_Device I do expect that I have lost one of my 3 RAID hds. (I have been waiting for my oldest one to die!) Or, perhaps this

Re: [H] server died again!

2008-09-27 Thread Al
Can anyone decode this BSOD, or, point me to which part of it to google for more info? ***Stop: 0x007B (0x88FF2AB0, 0xC032, 0x, 0x0...) Inaccessible_Boot_Device http://www.google.com/search?q=Inaccessible_Boot_Deviceie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8startIndex=startPage=1 Good luck. Al

Re: [H] server died again!

2008-09-27 Thread Ben Ruset
You don't have a virus, you probably have a bad disk. What RAID level were you running? DHSinclair wrote: Can anyone decode this BSOD, or, point me to which part of it to google for more info? ***Stop: 0x007B (0x88FF2AB0, 0xC032, 0x, 0x0...) Inaccessible_Boot_Device I do

Re: [H] server died again!

2008-09-27 Thread DHSinclair
Ben, Was running in RAID 5 (?); 2 data drives and a parity drive. With the previous OS install and with the first 2 drive failures, the alarm set and I got a msg at the w2k desktop that the RAID was operating in a degraded mode, but still fully operational. Adaptec SM Pro confirmed which drive

Re: [H] server died again!

2008-09-27 Thread Ben Ruset
Wait, you had two drives fail at once? Well, with your setup, you could only survive losing one drive at a time. DHSinclair wrote: Ben, Was running in RAID 5 (?); 2 data drives and a parity drive. With the previous OS install and with the first 2 drive failures, the alarm set and I got a msg

Re: [H] server died again!

2008-09-27 Thread DHSinclair
No. I do NOT know that I have 2 failed drives. That was my posit at this point. Certainly, if I do have 2/3 dead, I would expect to be dead in the water completely. Kiss my last install and all my data goodbye! Am I close? I suspect only one failed drive ATM, but can not yet prove this. Once