Hi Kurt,
>Does z/OSMF have a different look and feel than CustomPac ServerPac? Yes.
> However, z/OSMF can certainly install as you've described here: you can
>specify your three installation volumes for the target and distribution
>libraries, you can let SMS manage the CPAC and SMP/E data
Hi Marna,
thanks for your reply.
>Interesting you just happened upon finding the z/OS upgrade material on the
>z/OS website :). I think we need to make it easier to find, as perhaps the
>System Level portion of the z/OS release bookshelf isn't the best place?
I was expecting it where the
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 22:42:57 -0400, Steve Smith wrote:
>SYSIN/SYSOUT are subsystem datasets, and the (sort of) "natural" interface
>is by ACB/RPL, where each record has a specified length (in the RPL).
>LRECL & BLKSIZE are rather nebulous concepts compared to QSAM/BSAM, which
>are emulated; one
SYSIN/SYSOUT are subsystem datasets, and the (sort of) "natural" interface
is by ACB/RPL, where each record has a specified length (in the RPL).
LRECL & BLKSIZE are rather nebulous concepts compared to QSAM/BSAM, which
are emulated; one might say on a best-effort basis.
sas
The suggested RFE is that RECFM be allowed so that a job can contain a mix of F
and V in-stream datasets. Of course, that's only if there's a business case.
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Hi all,
Thanks for all the great feedback! This has been a good conversation to follow
the past couple of days. We do appreciate it!
From the conversation, I see those here are on the "minimum installation path"
that want to:
1. Use an existing prior configuration to save time when
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 01:43:48 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>I see the confusion. The only way to have a RECFM=V instream data set is if
>the internal reader for the job was RECFM=V.
>
Indeed. Suggested RFE:
Simply allocate the INTRDR with attributes same as the input file.
Strangely, LRECL is
I am hearing strong rumors that IBM is about to commit the type of corporate
facepalm that is the stuff for future textbooks. Apparently Redbooks are no
longer going to be a thing and the organization disbanded. If there’s one thing
that has differentiated IBM in the mainframe space has been
My very first computer program was about 30 feet of paper tape for
the IBM 610 at Notre Dame in Sep 1959 when I was a Sophomore in EE.
It calculated the value of a 4x4 determinant.
The first output on the Selectric was four characters WOW!
I sat in the computer room when not in class for three
I see the confusion. The only way to have a RECFM=V instream data set is if the
internal reader for the job was RECFM=V.
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Paul Gilmartin
We burned the paper tape and scattered the ashes. Please don't bring it back.
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Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 12:03:14 +1100, Robin Vowels wrote:
>We used to use RECFM=V in the 1960s with SYSIN
>for PL/I source programs on paper tape.
>
What have we abandoned in the 20th Century?!
Where can he order one? RPQ?
>On 2021-10-29 11:56, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Oct 2021
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 14:54:56 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>1A is the EBCDIC sub character as @Mike says. Something is taking input in
>character set A and translating it to character set B, finding a character
>that is not in character set B, and properly substituting a 1A.
>
I believe 1A is
We used to use RECFM=V in the 1960s with SYSIN
for PL/I source programs on paper tape.
On 2021-10-29 11:56, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 22:49:49 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
What happens with
//INFILE DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MY.VB.FILE
// DD *,DCB=(RECFM=V,LRECL=204)
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 22:49:49 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>What happens with
>
>//INFILE DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MY.VB.FILE
>// DD *,DCB=(RECFM=V,LRECL=204)
>
>and have you reported it as a bug, citing the text that you quoted?
>
I haven't RTFM today, but I believe it has long been a
HI Barbara,
Interesting you just happened upon finding the z/OS upgrade material on the
z/OS website :). I think we need to make it easier to find, as perhaps the
System Level portion of the z/OS release bookshelf isn't the best place?
You mentioned, "I wasn't too happy with it because it
It's not that classic FTP is slow; it's the FTP API that is unexplainably slow.
I have some hard numbers now.
The IBM-supplied API sample program takes six elapsed seconds on the Dallas z14.
The classic FTP client performing EXACTLY the same transfers from INPUT DD *
with the same site (our
Does it mean one can replace his TS1140 drives with LTO?
I don't think so.
Correction: I don't think it is possible for z/OS or VTS clients. Note:
Windows/Unix host could use TS1140 natively.
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W dniu 28.10.2021 o 16:51, Bodra - Pessoal pisze:
An
W dniu 28.10.2021 o 16:59, Pommier, Rex pisze:
Radoslaw,
What's wrong with it? Yes, they're 10 years old.
That's really important. 10 years old for IT equipment is like 50 years
old car. Even without notice it is time to migrate.
They're also still working just fine and IBM just gave me 4
What happens with
//INFILE DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MY.VB.FILE
// DD *,DCB=(RECFM=V,LRECL=204)
and have you reported it as a bug, citing the text that you quoted?
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It's probably a code page issue. What code point are they using for apostrophe
in the name?
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Tony Thigpen
This worked for me:
//STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSUT1 DD *
This is inside Frank's new VB file.
//SYSUT2 DD DISP=(,CATLG),DSN=PVELS.MY.VB.FILE,RECFM=VB,LRECL=204,
//SPACE=(TRK,(1,1))
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD DUMMY
//*-
From: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=messages-csv551i
ADDITIONAL MODULES WERE PROCESSED BUT NOT DISPLAYEDInformation was
displayed about 256 modules. Additional modules were processed, but
information is not displayed, to conserve system resources. The SMF record
written on event
Looks like it's utilizing only those DCB parameters that are support for SYSIN
datasets, and RECFM is not one of them.
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I have a team using SETPROG ADD,LPA
The number of modules is huge - the listing in syslog stops saying
ADDIONAL MODULES WERE PROCESSED BUT NOT DISPLAYED
Is there someway to get all the modules displayed that were actioned by this
command
Lizette
Try this:
//INFILE DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MY.VB.FILE
// DD *,DCB=MY.VB.FILE
Peter
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 at 08:57, John McKown
wrote:
> IIRC:
>
> //DD1 DD DSN=SOME.VB.DSN,DISP=SHR
> // DD *,RECFM=VB,LRECL=??? /* LRECL FROM ABOVE
> //*
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 4:11 PM Frank Swarbrick <
>
IIRC:
//DD1 DD DSN=SOME.VB.DSN,DISP=SHR
// DD *,RECFM=VB,LRECL=??? /* LRECL FROM ABOVE
//*
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 4:11 PM Frank Swarbrick
wrote:
> I have a goal to concatenate a data set of variable length records
> (RECFM=VB,LRECL=204) with an instream data set of fixed length characters.
>
On Oct 28, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
>
> Apostrophe, huh? A wild guess would be that the character that is not liked
> might be a "smart quote": ’
>
> I don't think they could truly key that in but they might count cut-and-paste
> as "keying in."
+1. This is highly likely to be
1A is the EBCDIC sub character as @Mike says. Something is taking input in
character set A and translating it to character set B, finding a character that
is not in character set B, and properly substituting a 1A.
Then TN3270 is saying "I don't know how to display a 1A" and barfing.
On 10/28/2021 10:27 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote:
O yeah, tape controllers? What are they? The C07 was the last tape controller
and I don't remember how many years ago IBM stopped supporting them. I
remember back when IBM dropped the C06, the price of used C07s skyrocketed and
you couldn't even
I have a goal to concatenate a data set of variable length records
(RECFM=VB,LRECL=204) with an instream data set of fixed length characters. My
though was to add RECFM=V to my instream DD, i.e.:
//INFILE DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MY.VB.FILE
// DD *,RECFM=V,LRECL=204
The RECFM is rejected as
I would expect that this version is the one to get if you want to develop
software:
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zdt/12.0.5?topic=personal-edition
Personal Edition
ZD Personal Edition enables a single user to run an IBM® Z distribution on a
personal computer.
ZD Personal Edition can create an
1A is the SUB for invalid characters. Apparently the 3270 emulator
(or file transfer program) is not using the standard apostrophe
character.
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 8:24 PM Tony Thigpen wrote:
>
> This is a new one for me.
>
> I have a customer that has sites in both the US and Canada. In the
This is a new one for me.
I have a customer that has sites in both the US and Canada. In the last
week, something strange has happened in their files TWICE.
They are using CICS to add a new vendor to an IMS database. The next
time they try to access the vendor record, the terminal session
> Absolutely understand what you said, but that's dumb.
>
> I haven't created a NEW Master Catalog in 20 years, because why
> would I want to have to RECAT all my PAGE, SMF, USERCATs, NON-VSAM,
> ETC datasets??
Some folks do create a new master catalog. That's their process.
Apparently not
Quite a while ago, probably in OS/390 days, I experimented and did both a
replacement and an upgrade. Ultimately implemented the upgrade path and haven't
done a replacement since.
I agree with Barbara and Terri. I haven't actually IPL's the SMP/E target
sysres in decades. I use alternate
O yeah, tape controllers? What are they? The C07 was the last tape controller
and I don't remember how many years ago IBM stopped supporting them. I
remember back when IBM dropped the C06, the price of used C07s skyrocketed and
you couldn't even find one. That was when our direct attached
Hi Edward,
My TS3584 isn't directly attached to my z, it's a back end storage for a
TS7760T VTS. As such, I can install TS1150 drives in the library, load new
tapes in the library, mark all my current 1140 tape media as full, and go
through the gyrations of having the library migrate all the
On 10/28/2021 7:59 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote:
...Yeah, I can get newer drives and media, but ordering, procuring, installing
and testing, and migrating doesn't happen overnight. Not to mention trying to
find the money when IBM didn't give me enough warning to budget for replacement
hardware and
Not sure I understand why you do that, but you have that option IF you DON'T do
a SYSTEM UPGRADE and do a REPLACE, which builds all new things.
All I want to do is SWAP my 2 RES volumes, which I have done for 30+ years,
Recatalog whats new to the release I am installing and IPL.
Like I said, I
Terri,
There are ways to leave your Master Catalog alone, and still be able to upgrade
z/OS. I install new z/OS either with ServerPac or now z/OSMF workflows, to its
own "master" catalog, with ALIAS pointer of something like ZOS25. Then build
runtime datasets from the "ServerPac" datasets,
Sorry Kurt,
Absolutely understand what you said, but that's dumb.
I haven't created a NEW Master Catalog in 20 years, because why would I want to
have to RECAT all my PAGE, SMF, USERCATs, NON-VSAM, ETC datasets??
When just adding an SSA to SYS1 gets away from any conflicts, and still gets in
> Great information Kurt, thanks, but need a clarification on one thing.
>
> >>That's great! You would choose any of these software instances as
> your model when installing z/OS next. You can also experiment with
> other Software >>Management actions on those defined software
> instances.
I believe they use ASG-ViewDirect on the server end, not positive. To VPS it
just looks like a print server.
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Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 7:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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Great information Kurt, thanks, but need a clarification on one thing.
I was able to get the migration workflow now, that's the steps I was missing.
>>That's great! You would choose any of these software instances as your model
>>when installing z/OS next. You can also experiment with other
> So just a few clarifications.
>
> I am guessing when I install z/OS 2.6, not sure what my model is, an
> instance or the portable 2.5 order?
A model is a software instance representing your actual installed
software, no matter how it was installed, not a portable software
instance.
>
Radoslaw,
What's wrong with it? Yes, they're 10 years old. They're also still working
just fine and IBM just gave me 4 months until they stop supporting them.
That's not a lot of time to get off them - especially with the holiday season
and year end freezes. Usually IBM gives more than a
An interesting fact in this announcement that could be a light for the future
is the recommendation for installations that use up to 15TB of tape processing
daily to use the TS7770 with TS4300 and LTO8 or LTO9 units, which will
certainly reduce the cost of media acquisition.
The LTO units
Hi,
Problem solved ...
The FTP Step must include:
//CEEOPTS DD *
ENVAR(GSK_PROTOCOL_TLSV1_2=ON)
Please see:
https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article/208752/ftp-to-supportftpbroadcomcom-receives-s.html
Regards,
David
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Thanks Kurt.
As much as I despise z/OSMF, its just another learning curve on what's expected
or how it works overall.
Having said that, In what I could do, I like it. But still don't like all the
background things being done. Even if they are just catalog look ups.
So just a few
Hey Kurt (and Marna),
In order to help customers get to the zOSMF way of doing it, IBM could do a
quick round of calls with its customers to understand how shops most commonly
do it currently.
Then, IBM could do multi-part webinars or a bunch of IBM TechDocs to address
the switching-over
For zHPF, have you looked at the documentation of EXCP(VR)? That plus PoOps
should be all that you need.
For EAV, what do you need that is not in Advanced Services or Data Areas?
AFAIK, every relevant service is FMT(8|9) aware.
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It seems like the PCR application on IBMLink/ServiceLink would be what you
are looking for:
https://www-03.ibm.com/ibmlink/pcr/pcr.wss?lc=en=US
These are the fields that can be queried: Component name, Product name,
FMID, CLC, Program number, Component ID, Release
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 2:36 PM
While I may not aware of any documentation for extended format data sets, the
Principles of Operations manual documents zHPF, although it doesn't use the
term. Similarly, the DFSMSdfp Advanced Services manual documents EAV and zHPF
from a software perspective.
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> I have one set of installation volumes (TGT125, ZFS225 and DLBV25)
> specific to the release. TGT125 will NEVER get IPL'd, I clone from
> there to everywhere. All 'extranous' data sets (CPAC, the SMP
> environment) goes SMS and stays on my sandbox. I also don't IPL the
> CPAC system that
Mackinney
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Michael:
Do you happen to know what software your client
Michael:
Do you happen to know what software your client is using at the server end?
We have VPS and would like to use it.
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 5:13 PM Michael Brennan <
034cc18fb308-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> If you have product such as VPS, CA-Spool or other product on your
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zdt/12.0.1?topic=release-zos-23-may-2018-edition
try this web site. I found most of the fmid's just the other day.
Thanks
Shelia Chalk at a bank in MISSISSIPPI
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Thank you to all who answered.
Excellent ideas.
Regards,
Roberto
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 7:36 AM John McKown
wrote:
> Oh, wow, someone actually saw some code I posted.
>
> On Wednesday, October 27, 2021, kekronbekron <
> 02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > Check this
W dniu 27.10.2021 o 21:35, Mark Regan pisze:
Does IBM keep a FMID to Program Number cross reference listing on their web
site somewhere? My searches are not coming up with anything.
Thanks,
I have never found such list.
Notes:
FMID can belong to many programs.
PID is not unique.
My way is to
W dniu 26.10.2021 o 22:54, Pommier, Rex pisze:
Hi list,
Was I the only one caught flat-footed with the IBM announcement today that in
just over 4 months (2/28/2022), they're dropping support on TS1140 tape
transports? Was there an earlier announcement that this was coming and I just
missed
Oh, wow, someone actually saw some code I posted.
On Wednesday, October 27, 2021, kekronbekron <
02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Check this out - https://gist.github.com/JohnArchieMckown/
> b27747d0c4750a258997
> You can build on top of this as you need.
>
> - KB
>
>
Off the top of my head a instruction fetch GTF trace, action=trace, at the
entry point of the LPA module should work.
Mark Jacobs
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I tried the force, since it was showing as an active connection not in a
failed-persistent state, the force command wasn't accepted. I did need to
perform a sysplex IPL and shutdown/activate the 2 CF lpars too before bringing
things up.
Mark Jacobs
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Hi,
I used to be able to FTP my Order from IBMLink to my z/OS system.
This no longer works and I am getting EZA2897I.
My //SYSFTPD has a valid KEYRING.
Which other statements do I need to make this work?
(I remember seeing a note that as of April, 2021 there would be changes
to FTP security
Hello
Is there a way to know or understand about how many times a module in LPA
got used or called without using any priced products ?
Jake
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Hi Lizette!
There is an IBM REXX utility called auditid that can aid with performing lookup
of a z/OS UNIX FID.
https://github.com/IBM/IBM-Z-zOS/tree/main/zOS-Tools-and-Toys/auditid
With best regards
Mattias Widman
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From: Lizette Koehler
Sent: den 27 oktober 2021
Sean Gleann wrote:
>2. I was not specific enough in my original query. You say that zHPF
should
>work automagically with BSAM, etc. Apologies for my oversight here, but
>what we're looking for is information on creating a channel program that
>uses TCWs as opposed to CCWs (our software generates
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