Last night I discovered it still plays original pre-recorded minidiscs
perfectly.
What do you think might be wrong with it, and should the repair cost
be
cheaper, or can I do it myself?
The fact that it plays pre-recorded discs but not recordable ones
indicates to me that the optical
There is a definite problem with increasing the write speed to disc...
This is one of the main reasons (besides poor marketing and excessive
price) that MD data never made it big time - the write speed is limited
due to the physical properties of the disc and/or the limited amount of
laser
Yes, the record head sits on the disc surface, lubed by a small drop of
silicon grease...
GB
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Hi. Now there is also head cleaner. Although the lens doesn't not
touch the MD,
doesn't the head actually make contact?
Yes, the disc does not spin in rec-pause - the unit can stay in that
mode for as long as you like - when it starts recording it uses it's
buffer memory to store the first few millisecs whilst the disc spins
up...
A neat idea that should also apply to *all* home decks - what on earth
were Sony
The 702 only has 10 secs and it skips, even when walking briskly - it
seems the quick back/forward change of direction is a problem...
GB
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From: "Richard Lang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2000 2:43
Subject: RE: MD: 722 problem
the audio data is compressed at a 5:1 ratio to enable it to fit on an
MD.
The capacity of a blank disc is 140MB - if it were 650MB there would be
no need for any compression, except that perhaps compression is also
needed to keep the data rate low enough for the (c1991) magneto-optical
format to
No I think the problem is that the line is wrapped by the sender - no
matter how large I make my read window the link remains wrapped to two
lines and doesn't work...
I think that's a function or 'feature' of Outlook Express - I have the
same problem when sending lng links
GB
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I didn't know that - thanks for the info - I have often wondered how to
include long links...
GB
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From: Dan Frakes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://inserturlhere.com
The angle brackets tell your email/web client where the URL starts and
where it ends. On modern
Fantastic in depth review...
Thanks Brian.
GB
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From: Brian Youn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey guys,
Just want to let you guys that I finished up my R900 review, and have
it up
at:
http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~youn/mzr900.html
Rick,
This is good news!
Whilst it is true that I don't catch up with the MD news as often as I
used to, the last time I raised this issue (a question to MD-L, 12 July
re: any response to the petition) the only reply to it AFAIK, was a link
to Sony's polite (but non-committal) response...
It seems that nothing can get this through to the arrogant Sony Corp.
The dismal response to our end search petition shows just how much they
care...
Vote with your wallet - buy a Sharp or something, anything but Sony and
you will not have any more end-search problems.
I know it's sometimes
They all have manual level control, AFAIK.
Slide the record button and hold it for a sec or two - you should see
'manual rec' on the display.
Set the level with thebuttons, before starting to record.
Adjusting the level can only be done in rec-pause mode with Sony's.
Sharp etc allow level
The start up costs for manufacturing MDs must have come down, because
3 years
ago (except for Hi Space) all MDs were made in Japan. MDs were not
selling well
enough outside of Japan to invest big bucks in an MD manufacturing
facility.
I dug out a receipt dated Nov '94 for AU$190 being
PS - that's when the (fairly large and low on specs by today's standards)
MZR-2 was AU$1499 or a 'cheap' £450
GB
I dug out a receipt dated Nov '94 for AU$190 being for 10 blank 74 min
discs. That was when (if you could find them) they were $22 (or £10) a
pop
at major stores.
Now I can buy
On weight - you do seem to view the greater weight spec of the 940 as
negative, I think weight could be a positive, as it might indicate
better
build quality (maybe better reliability e.g. the transport, if not sound
quality etc
Maybe I'm becoming cynical in my old age but all this
Thanks for that - I have been wondering (and asking) if there was any
response - nice to see something, although it's not a lot...
GB
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From: Dan Frakes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MDList [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 11 August 2000 4:07
Subject: MD: End-Search petition
Obviously music is going to be downloaded... whatever format can
downlaod is going to
win. Their insistence on not making MDs easily compatible with MP3s is
the begining
of the death knoll for the MD. Money is being poured into MP3 and its
players here in
the states so that is what
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From: Graham Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 24 December 1997 12:01
Subject: Re: MD: Sharp 701 power Supplies
More questions and thoughts regarding the 701/702 and power supplies.
Page 55 of the manual lists the supply volts required
Here's the original post of Renard's that fixes the Sharp charging
problems.
GB
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From: Renard A. Dellafave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 23 December 1997 8:23
Subject: Re: MD: Sharp 701 recharge problems (how to build 5V supply)
A 6V 800mA
You guys are way beyond my technical comprehension and I haven't really
followed this thread so my apologies if I am way off the mark...
BUT, AFAIK, (and I haven't made detailed tests, just my observations) my
Sharp 701 portable does not alter the level of tracks when recording mono
compared to
I think you will find that a true, regulated 4.5v will not charge the
battery.
A 5.0 regulated supply will...
Maybe some 4.5v supplies are actually closer to 5v?
GB
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Thats what I thought, but I can charge mine off the same 4.5VDC
supply. I did manage to destroy
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From: James S. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 4 August 2000 11:16
Subject: Re: MD: External MD Power Supply for 722
Since I asked this question about the Radio Shack "Portable CD Player
Power
Pack" (23-505) rechargeable lead battery, I
You raise some good points Shawn.
Here's another angle on why I also don't see that I am 'stealing' by using
Napster.
I don't download any of the recent/popular stuff as IMHO most of it is not
worth listening to and I certainly wouldn't be buying it.
My main use of Napster is to source old long
But maybe the small bands could bypass the record corporations altogether
if Napster was still around?
They could market their own music, (as many small bands have done) and
then any sales would go direct to the band, insted of 99% of it to the
greedy suits in the greedy record corps...
IMHO,
FYI
GB
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From: Eric de Fontenay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 July 2000 00:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mi2N NEWS FLASH: NAPSTER WINS APPEAL
~
Mi2N~
MUSIC INDUSTRY NEWS NETWORK
When are the fat-cat suits in the music industry going to realise that
it's too late - the cat's out of the bag.
Sooner or later they will have to stop fighting 'it' and start to use 'it'
as a marketing tool...
On "Why the music industry has nothing to celebrate" ...
Any feedback at all from Sony?
Even just an acknowledgment that they received it would be a start
GB
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http://www.musicmatch.com/
Has some good features. The free version encodes from CD's at 128k and
searches the www for titles of tracks.
GB
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Hi guys,
Does anyone know of a replacement MP3 decoder for WinAmp ?
The Nitrane one sounds a bit shitty to me, but I
Sorry for the multiple postings - these were posted on 1 June but just
turned up today!
That's worse than snail mail...
GB
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From: Graham Baker
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2000 8:17
Subject: Re: MD: end search petition
Yes, how about
From: Graham Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2000 8:17
Subject: Re: MD: end search petition
Yes, how about the ability to be able to adjust manual record levels without having
to pause recording first?
IMHO, this Sony mis-feature is almost as daft
From: Graham Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2000 8:17
Subject: Re: MD: end search petition
Yes, how about the ability to be able to adjust manual record levels without having
to pause recording first?
IMHO, this Sony mis-feature is almost as daft
Gaz is OK - he has his own point of view, it's just different from most
other peoples, although there are others on the list who also favour an end
search button (not me..:-) )
Sony do tune in to this list - I know this for a fact but I don't know just
how much influence they have on the
G'day David,
As a long time MD-L contributor you would know how often this thread crops
up...
Almost always, the outcome is that no-one can come up with any valid reason
for the ES button...
I wonder when Sony are finally going to admit to this ridiculously bad
design error and produce a
Sorry, but what's a co-ax RCA connector? The only thing that came with
my
R70 is the optical cable. And the sony manual says that the recorder
will
automatically mark new tracks at the track marks as on the CD (when using
optical cable) or when there is 2 seconds of silence.
coax
I don't think it has ever been scientifically proven that any cable is
better than another...
The main thing is that if you think it has made an improvement then that's
all that matters...
Psychologically, the aim has been achieved.
25 years or so, back in the UK, the hi-fi 'golden ears' brigade
I think you will find the Sharp 702 will take care of itself rather than
being damaged.
The 6v adaptor I tried on my 702 caused the 702 to stop and display a
warning message - something like 'input volts' came up on the screen.
It sounds as though your 6v adaptor in reality gives something
If you are handy with a soldering iron there's an easy fix.
Buy a 6v @ 800ma adaptor and a 5 volt regulator...
This little three pin device will hold the 6v at a regulated 5v independent
of load...
This is what I had to do to run my Sharp 702 as the Japanese p/s is n/g in
Australia.
e-mail me
Hi all,
I am just discovering the wonderful world of MP3 (not that I will be
deserting MD - I intend to record them on MD from my PC)
Some of the 'alt.binary.mp3' newsgroups have what seems to be an MP3 file
attached but it just reads as a load of unreadable characters in Outlook
Express.
I
AFAIK, stereo or mono data as laid down as one continuous track, ie there
is no left/right separate tracks - it's all one data stream.
Depending how you look at it, in mono mode it is recording at half speed,
that is, on a blank disc the mono data can be written in one contiguous
track for 150
AFAIK, all players/recorders will play back mono recordings but not all
recorders will record in mono.
Neither of my Sony MZ-R2 and Sony JA3-ES will record in mono but they both
play back a mono recording from my Sharp 701...
GB
I read an article in Radio World which was a review of the Sharp
Secondly, I want to know if during an analog recording, is there any way
I
can make it so if there is 2 seconds or more of silence, I dont want the
recorder to put on a track mark. Do Sharp's do this?
Yes, you can turn off the auto track mark function, at least you can with
the Sharps -
Everything you say 'end search' is good for is achieved automatically with
all other portables and even with Sony home decks...
End search has no useful function and can be a dangerous feature if you
forget to use it...
(here we go again) :-)
GB
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mmm, maybe Francisco means that when fading
You are correct.
'Sony' do monitor this list but they will not post to it, at least not on
behalf of Sony...
Most corporations have a strict 'no comment' policy on lists newsgroups.
The only active corp that I know of is Panasonic on DV-L and that is only
one person who actually participates -
I don't think you will find any pre-recorded md's like this - the md market
is aimed at youth and the market would be way too small to cater to
'oldies'.
FWIW, I have recorded quite a number of mono discs - filled them up with
old mono vinyl and mono radio recordings.
To have almost instant
$4.50 for a TDK is pretty good, I haven't found them any cheaper, down
under
JB hi-fi sells cheaper blanks but perhaps they are not so good quality.
I picked up some BASF's for about $3.50 each and couldn't get them to play
back reliably in my 701, although they seemed OK in my Sony
There have been similar problems when connecting external mics to Sony
miniDV camcorders, only when a mains adaptor is used for power.
Try using just battery power for the MZ-R50 - do you still get the buzzing
noise?
GB
I'm the producer of a public radio program. We recently bought a Sony
Well, here's a big bonus of the Sharp over the Sony portables - for lecture
recording the Sharp's are great.
The syncro-start feature works very well, nothing is missed from the start
of the recording thanks to the record/audio buffer.
There's two sensitivity settings so that (hopefully) it
No more info as yet, but IMHO, this is the way to go - hopefully new DVD
players will accept these DVD discs directly, although, with the plastic
case, it could be difficult
This is exactly what I was asking for in my MD-L post of Nov 11th:
why not develop a smaller DVD disc that would hold
I think you can find this info somewhere on Rick's MD web page:
http://hive.me.gu.edu.au/~csand/md/mdpage/minidisc/
GB
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From: brynmore williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2000 3:48
Subject: MD: capable of functioning MZ-R2
How many default settings are there?
If you get desperate email me and I will check them out on my MZR2
I did change the focus bias to get it working again (disc err) but apart
from that all my settings are at default...
GB
but inquiring minds have to know. The minidisc community page
G'day from Melbourne Jason,
Welcome to MD-L.
There's quite a few dedicated Ozzies here.
Been into MD since '94 (MZ-R2) and have seen MD prices tumble dramatically
over the last 5 or 6 years
GB
PS. are there any other Aussies on here?
Hi Rodney,
If you were not happy with the TRV900's output, as you mentioned earlier, I
would say you would be even less happy with the discam's video quality,
especially on a HDTV
If I were you I would go for the Canon GL1, which, IMHO has better video
than even the TRV900, compared side by
Nearly 12 hours after 'the event' and everything's fine down under.
Neat little show they put on, on the Thames.
Cheers
GB
Melbourne
Hi friends,
Just in cast the net begins crashing and this is one of the last messages
I get through [to Australia certainly] I'd like to wish you
Hi Rodney,
I understand what you are saying but if you consider the price and size of
the TRV900 it really is an excellent cam.
It is regarded within the TV industry as 'broadcast standard' - but only
just.
To get real broadcast quality you have to spend megabucks on similar MiniDV
or DV format
I was told by one of the mail order camera stores
that in reality the PC100 has a 680,000 pixel lens-the 1,070,000 pixels
applies only to still photos and then only those stored on a Memory
Stick. I would hope this were not true. Does anybody know?
Unfortunately it is true - and even worse
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From: Rodney Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Graham, could you please post an E-Mail address to
subscribe to for those of us interested in joining the DV-L list.
Thanks.
All about DV-L: http://www.DVCentral.org/thelist.html
There is also a very active TRV900
More info about Sony's minidisc based video cam:
http://adobepremiereworld.com/.getarticle/.433537609
Interesting that will also function as an audio recorder, holding four
hours of audio on it's 650MB minidisc.
I wonder when this will filter through to the real MD audio world?
GB
I would bet that future models will have a 1394 port, without it, sales
will be very low - consumer demand will dictate and rule!
GB
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I really think the reason for having no digital input and output on the
MD Discam is SCMS. Since it is both
It sounds like maybe the sled that carries the optical block could be
sticking at the inner end of it's travel.
It could also be temperature related - extreme cold or heat causing more
errors...
It's probably worth taking it back to Sony and explain that it is still
not fixed and emphasis the
Hi Ralph,
Why is it that I have the idea that a DVD based sollution is going to
fail?
Is it because it's to big. People WILL compare the size of a DVD based
camcorder
to the size of a miniDV/D8/MDVideo based camcorder.
Maybe - but why not develop a smaller DVD disc that would hold (say)
I think there are a couple of reasons for this:
The write speed is probably the biggest problem (ie I would think the read
speed would be less of a factor) - there is a finite time taken to heat the
metallic substrate to it's Curie Point and also a finite time from that
point for the write
An excellent post Rick - maybe you should include it on the MDCP?
GB
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From: Eric Woudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 14 November 1999 5:00
Subject: MD: History of MD
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G'day all,
Got a friend going to the US in a week or two - whats the best deals in MD
portables and 'bundles' over there??
Many thanks,
Best wishes from down under
GB
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Hi Mike,
It sounds to me as though the optical block is either out of alignment or
about to fail.
It might be worth using a head cleaning disc but as you have already tried
cleaning with compressed air it probably won't fix it.
I also wonder if you accidentaly put the block out of alignment with
Hi Rick,
Good question.
It might affect recording quality by not using all the bits available to
resolve the signal.
In the early days of CD's, the resolution or sound quality of some very
quiet musical passages was spoilt by (quantisation?) noise.
I wonder if it would be the same situation in
Welcome to the MD world Nick.
Your question about 'end search' is just about to start world war three on
MD-L.
Lots of comments are about to be posted - I'll start the ball rolling - end
search is a totally redundant function that Sony (still) use on their
portable recorders to find the end of
The JA3-ES does have a poor reliability record for optical blocks.
A number of us on MD-L, including me, have had disc content permanently
destroyed by faulty UTOC updates.
My JA3 was less than 12 months old when it started playing up - the block
was replaced under warranty in 1996 and (touch
They were the good ol days of MD - the MZ-R2 portable was 520 UKP when I
bought it on UK hols
(cheap really, when I could have paid $1500 Aus instead) and blank discs
were just over 10 UKP (or $24 Aus) if I remember correctly.
Nice to see these realistic MD prices.
Now, if we could get the
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John,
Thanks for the info - it looks as though
It really depends on the player.
My old MZ-R2 portable plays all tracks with no gaps, even in random play.
My JA3 home deck plays tracks in order with no gaps, but inserts a second
or two gap when playing in shuffle mode.
With the amount of pre-play buffer in these things you would think it
Sorry John I think you are incorrect with your assumptions re 'time
machine' function.
On my JA3 it only works whilst it is in 'record-standby' mode.
In this model and AFAIK, all Sony home decks, the laser is powered up and
the disc spinning, unlike the 701, where nothing other than the record
Good question.
This has been talked about in the past - I remember Rick doing some looong
tests along this line, calculating disc revolutions over a 24hr period etc.
Perhaps he has details on the MDCP.
My 701 stops the disc spinning and goes into a kind of standby mode if left
on rec-pause (or
If anyone has experience with recording live show with Core's cheap
binaural's I am looking for some help. I recorded a live show in a
club(somewhat loud), and the sound that I got was terrible. It was
extremely muffled, enormous bass boom, and poor treble. Things sounded
pretty good
End search adds no additional features and potentially causes lots of
heart-ache from accidentally erased recordings.
AFAIK, all the non Sony machines resume playback from the point they were
stopped but record automatically at the end of the recorded section.
I would say that is smart and the
When digital dubbing, it's important not to record the signal any higher
than the "0" mark or you'll get clipping and distorion (when making a
digital recording--analog things like cassette decks let you go over the
"0"
a tad before you start to hear distortion).
-dave :)
Whilst I agree
Besides, if they're talking about replacing an optical block, it would be
because the block is out of spec and is beyond repair/alignment.
Adios,
LarZ
Or it could be that that is the easiest way out for Sony - a blanket fix
instead of really diagnosing the problem
My old MZ-R2 was
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I think End Search is to do just what someone else mentioned...
artificially simulate a lesser, more primitive technology: analog
cassette tape.
Hi Shawn,
Actually End Search is an unnecessary by-product of trying to
1). How would the MD unit store the position on a write-protected disc,
let
alone what a MD playback only could do.
At the time MD was designed they could have perhaps used a chip in the
player to remember the stop point and refer back to it whenever a disc is
re-inserted and the TOC or disc
I agree totally.
I hope it dies a quick and sudden death, along with their recently
introduced digital8 video format.
Both this and memory stick are totally incompatible with any other
manufacturer's products.
Sony are sometimes a right pain in the a**e with their inventiveness,
including 'end
Hi John,
Sony did develop DV but only after they signed up all the other camcorder
manufacturers, so although it was a totally new, (backward - incompatible)
format the future looked OK as all or most manufacturers were going with
it.
If Sony had only introduced Digi8 back then they would not
PS
OTOH, they are not really designed to be worn whilst walking down the
street, unless you are a trend-setter :-)
GB
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My CD Rom (Panasonic?) has 2 small pins on the back of the cct bd for
digital out.
I couldn't find a suitable plug so I soldered a length of coax cable
directly to them and terminated the other end with an RCA plug.
It plugs directly into the coaxial input on my JA3-ES and works great -
track
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The UTOC were held in (non-volatile?) memory
$9 is expensive when compared to the $4.30 for a normal 75 min disc.
That's over twice the price for an extra 5 mins.
OTOH, when I first got in to MD ('94) blank discs in Oz were $22
each.
GB
$9 isn't all that expensive for an 80min disc, at least for a new
medium.
Given time, it
I think you will one day regret having made this statement - sooner or
later something you have taken so much care of WILL fail on you.
I am an electronics technician by trade and I can assure you that every
one of my 'toys' are treated with kid gloves and TLC.
Also I do not 'mess around
The start of disc based camcorders!
Or 260 min of audio on one 650 MB MD!
GB
http://www.digitalproducer.com/aHTM/Articles/11_01_99/sony_debuts_minidisc_
based_digitalcam.htm
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go to
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