Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Curt, I wouldn't be surprised if your FLAPS might have a line? Do you have NAPA? I don't know how Rock Auto compares since we don't have Rock here. Is that a steel line-yes? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread pm7088
Manufacturer doesn't need loops, he cut to exact length. Loops are commonly used to use up excess length. If you decide to cut and flare, YOU SHOULD USE A DOUBLE FLARE. -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List

Re: [MBZ] christmas decoration

2009-12-14 Thread WILTON
Yes. Wilton - Original Message - From: TE ban...@carolina.rr.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] christmas decoration Eric Rudolph, rather. -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net wrote: Curt, I wouldn't be surprised if your FLAPS might have a line? Do you have NAPA? I don't know how Rock Auto compares since we don't have Rock here. Is that a steel line-yes? Rock Auto isn't a regional variety of

Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
DUH-thanks. I either use Rusty or NAPA. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, December 14,

[MBZ] 124 axle replacement project, lesson

2009-12-14 Thread OK Don
I had time this weekend to replace the snapping axles in the '92 300D 2.5. The boots on the original axles were not cracked, briken, etc., but they were definitlely catching and breaking loose at times, so I ordered a pair of new ones, $70 each. When I got them, there were two different axles,

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread Dieselhead
If you cut the tube, You HAVE TO use a double flare. Plan on several spoiled double flares before you get an adequate one. (more for a GOOD double flare.) I used to buy 2-3 chunks of tubing before I did a double flare, as it is not that expensive, and it stinks to have to make extra trips

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread Gary Hurst
i've done that too with cutting out a bad section with no troubles although it is considered taboo. i can't figure out if this is a really dangerous practice or not. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: If you cut the tube, You HAVE TO use a double flare.

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread Peter Frederick
The danger is that only the pressure on the compression ring is holding the brake line together. Since the line expands and contracts when you apply the brakes, the danger is that either the fitting will slip off in an emergency when you apply very high force or that the line will shrink

[MBZ] Towing went well!

2009-12-14 Thread Chris N John
OK, the SD is in the shop warming up a bit. Seems like the fuel filter is pretty dry. So they are suspecting a bad fuel pump. Where do they hide them on the '80s, does anyone know?!! Our 450 SELs are all real obvious. This one looks to be hidden in the trunk or somewhere back there, right??

Re: [MBZ] Towing went well!

2009-12-14 Thread Dieselhead
What does the fuel gauge show??? If the fuel filter has no fuel, suspect the feed and return lines switched in the engine compartment. The return line hooked to the feed side of the transfer pump will cause the car to run out of fuel with a little under 1/4 tank. 2. Air in fuel lines

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread Curt Raymond
I dunno I picture a stick jumping up and ripping that off. I've done that with a bicycle before... Wife got it in to be looked at today, guy said between $75 and $100 depending on what breaks when he does it. We're having them do the tranny fluid and filter too. While I'm typing... They

Re: [MBZ] Holiday project

2009-12-14 Thread Curt Raymond
The 392 would probably get double digit mileage if I stayed out of the go pedal but I bet it'll be difficult to do that... They're both relatively easy to find parts for so I guess it'd be a matter of what the truck came with... -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:15:23 -0600 From: Dieselhead

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Probably would but for $100 (the quote from the Indy) I'll let them handle it, supposed to be done along with the transmission service tomorrow. -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:49:22 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing... To: 'Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Towing went well!

2009-12-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Fuel pump on an SD? I thought that the injection pump served as the fuel pump. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net wrote: OK, the SD is in the shop warming up a bit. Seems like the fuel filter is pretty dry. So they are suspecting a bad fuel

Re: [MBZ] Towing went well!

2009-12-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Could your fuel have gelled in the fuel lines going to the fuel filter? Could you have an obstruction in the fuel line impeding flow to the filter? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net wrote: OK, the SD is in the shop warming up a bit. Seems

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread Fmiser
Curt Raymond wrote: Took the Ranger out today, noticed the brakes felt a little squooshy, figured it was just the snow with a little ice underneath. Turns out the hardline to the driver's rear wheel is leaking at the junction block. I can't find that hardline on RockAuto, you figure thats

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread Allan Streib
I've always told myself that if I needed to do extensive re-plumbing of the brakes on a vehicle of mine, I'd try this: http://www.fedhillusa.com/ They also rent a flaring tool. Anyone tried this stuff? Allan On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:57 -0600, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] 124 axle replacement project, lesson

2009-12-14 Thread David Bruckmann
The MB EPC (epc.startekinfo.com) is pretty clear about the NON-interchangeability of that shaft. The footnotes say that 129 350 41 10 is ONLY to be used with ASR/ASD. On a 124.128, the interchange is ONLY between 210 350 84 10 and 129 350 40 10. After plenty of mixups, I no longer order ANY

Re: [MBZ] MORE power

2009-12-14 Thread RELNGSON
..The C 6.3 is the hot little car to have now, they're running around all over town here.  I haven't driven a new 6.3, but I hear it's much more flexible than the old blown 5.5 it replaced That engine in the 2010 E63 is bumped up to 518hp which should be adequate for the memsahib

[MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Anyone know anything about this w140 model? It has 90K miles and MB fixed the wiring for the original owner. Do they start to eat money after 100K miles? do they hold value? All info appreciated-THX Dwight (considering gasser.) Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.

Re: [MBZ] christmas decoration

2009-12-14 Thread Fmiser
Mountain Man wrote: Well, there is good news and bad news about my Christmas decorations. But it was fun while it lasted. ;) Your house Or just being passed around? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread E M
I looked at several a couple of years ago, but the 500, not the 400. I think all 400s were SE if not mistaken, but I could be wrong. For the same money, I'd go for a 500 myself. I'm not sure about eating money after 100,000 miles, they were a pretty hungry car from the start, to maintain

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Thanks Ed, this one is 400sel. It has had the dual timing chain upgrade. I agree with your advice about not going cheap-I remember Marshall's words about a cheap Mercedes. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original

Re: [MBZ] MORE power

2009-12-14 Thread E M
I had an E63 pull out and pass me last week while I was heading to the dealer. That car is the business, and makes some very tasty sounds when the loud pedal is tickled!! In my opinion, if you own an E63, and you're seeing a 20 mpg return, you're a sinner! lol Expect a knock on your front door

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread E M
Hi Dwight, Yeah, the only way to justify a cheap Mercedes, is if you're feeling really charitable, and you know of a Mercedes mechanic, who's family is really in need. ;-) From the ppl I talked to when I was interested, The mechanical bits of the car are on the whole, very solid. It's all the

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread John Freer
Dwight, what dual chain upgrade? They all V8's except the early 380's. Evaporators, wiring harness' and weak front ends are all early W140 concerns. John On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net wrote: Thanks Ed, this one is 400sel. It has had the dual timing chain

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Starts to make my old reliable 240D sound even more desirable -no flicking on that-only the manual cold idle control. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Wife got it in to be looked at today, guy said between $75 and $100 depending on what breaks when he does it. In other words, $75 plus Oh, shits. They wanted to just flush the trans and do the filter at the next service. Theres ~43,000 on the truck now and I'm thinking

Re: [MBZ] Towing went well!

2009-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Fuel pump on an SD? I thought that the injection pump served as the fuel pump. The lift pump is attached to the injection pump. If the filter is dry, you're sucking air from somewhere. Could be anything from a damaged line, to sucking fuel from the return line

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Peter Frederick
The problem with the W140 is not mechanical, it's electronic. Self- igniting climate control, engine control (one box, does everything) and flaky wiring that fires the above again, make this a bad choice. Owners were dumping them the day the extended warrenty ran out, because they had

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D injector question

2009-12-14 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I'll vote for a fuel leak problem. This could be caused by a leak letting air into the system somewhere heat related. Can you take a look at the clear pre-filter and see if there are any air bubbles when the engine is running or right after you shut it off? Max -Original Message-

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread E M
They're all great cars, just in different ways. A 240D could never give you what an S can, but a S could never be the things that make a 240D great. That's why I think you need to have one of each. ;-) Ed 300E 2009/12/14 Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net Starts to make my old reliable

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing...

2009-12-14 Thread Peter Frederick
If you change the fluid and filter every 30,000 miles like Benz recommends, they last 300,000 miles. If you leave the factory fluid in there and never change it, they die at less than 100,000. Your choice. Mobil 1 synthetic will extend the life about double as it's more stable. If you

[MBZ] You don't see these very often

2009-12-14 Thread Donald Snook
I was standing outside our office building having a smoke in the freezing cold when a big beautiful car drove up and tried to find a parking space. It was far away when I noticed it and I couldn't tell if it is was a new S Class or even a new BMW 7 series. As it got closer, I realized just

[MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Diesel Prices]

2009-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
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[MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Gasoline Prices]

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Re: [MBZ] You don't see these very often

2009-12-14 Thread E M
I was beside one just the other day. The guy driving it was enjoying a BigGulp from 7-11. lol. They are a good size when you stand next to one, aren't they!! Ed with a tiny little 300E 2009/12/14 Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com I was standing outside our office building having a smoke in the

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
OK-maybe that's what he meant-now I recall that the 380 was the turning point-ca 82 or 83 from single to dual. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Excellent point-I'd one of every MB ever made if I could. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Monday, December

Re: [MBZ] You don't see these very often

2009-12-14 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Hurry Donald-go sign them up as your estate planning clients. I have never seen one on the road either -only at the NY auto show and at a dealer once. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo noisy lifters

2009-12-14 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I think that Marshall used to say that it could take thousands of miles to fix, but M1 had a good reputation for fixing them. Unfortunately it is not a permanent fix - the tap will come back when you switch to Dino oil. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] You don't see these very often

2009-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: It was a Maybach. I don't think I have seen any of those driving around Wichita. It really was a beautiful car. An old couple climbed out of it and walked into our building. Did you chase them down and give them a MTSQH business card? Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
in 92 it was 400SE, in 93, 400SEL E M wrote: I looked at several a couple of years ago, but the 500, not the 400. I think all 400s were SE if not mistaken, but I could be wrong. For the same money, I'd go for a 500 myself. I'm not sure about eating money after 100,000 miles, they were a

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
They all had dual timing chains, there is no upgrade there. Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Thanks Ed, this one is 400sel. It has had the dual timing chain upgrade. I agree with your advice about not going cheap-I remember Marshall's words about a cheap Mercedes. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr.

[MBZ] ethanol industry seeks bigger subsidy

2009-12-14 Thread L Mark Finch
An ethanol advocacy group says cars built since 2001 should be able to burn a 15% blend with no problem. That isn't reassuring to those of us whose vehicles were manufactured in the 1990s or before. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/12/ethanol-blend-15-percent/

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Never heard of having to program window motors, I have swapped plenty of them out and never had to do that. Peter Frederick wrote: The problem with the W140 is not mechanical, it's electronic. Self-igniting climate control, engine control (one box, does everything) and flaky wiring that

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread LarryT
EM wrote you need to have one of each (a 240D and a S Class) Hi Ed, Failing owning a S and a 240D, a W124 would be the best choice - it's the best of all worlds! Ever notice how much a W124 300E/D looks like a W140? If anything ever happens to my '91 300D I hope I can find a comparable

Re: [MBZ] ethanol industry seeks bigger subsidy

2009-12-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Then we should at least have an option of E10 at the pump. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2009, at 5:57 PM, L Mark Finch mfi...@katzenfinch.com wrote: An ethanol advocacy group says cars built since 2001 should be able to burn a 15% blend with no problem. That isn't reassuring to those of us

Re: [MBZ] ethanol industry seeks bigger subsidy

2009-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Then we should at least have an option of E10 at the pump. I want to go back to seeing all pumps plainly labeled. I can run avgas in my chain saws, but any car I own newer than a 1977 Saab shouldn't have leaded gas in it. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Allan Streib
E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: As for holding their value, well, ha ha ha. Look at the asking price of the car you're looking at, and then look up what it cost new. There's you're answer. ;-) Had you bought a V12 new, the pain would be that much worse if you were selling! There's a V12

Re: [MBZ] ethanol industry seeks bigger subsidy

2009-12-14 Thread Allan Streib
L Mark Finch mfi...@katzenfinch.com writes: An ethanol advocacy group says cars built since 2001 should be able to burn a 15% blend with no problem. That isn't reassuring to those of us whose vehicles were manufactured in the 1990s or before. Another reason to stick with the klatta klatta I

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread WILTON
Notice how much a 124 looks like a 140? No? Wilton - Original Message - From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel? EM wrote you need to have one of each (a 240D and a

Re: [MBZ] You don't see these very often

2009-12-14 Thread Rich Thomas
You smoke? Why? Fer a lawyer you ain't very smart. --R Donald Snook wrote: I was standing outside our office building having a smoke in the freezing cold when a big beautiful car drove up and tried to find a parking space. It was far away when I noticed it and I couldn't tell if it is was

Re: [MBZ] You don't see these very often

2009-12-14 Thread WILTON
Amen on the smoking. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] You don't see these very often You smoke? Why? Fer a lawyer you

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Peter Frederick
On the W140 and later models, they are smart motors with a serial network connection to the convenience relay box, have to be programed so that the computer knows which window to open. Supposedly so that children will not be strangled by the window, but that doesn't take Microsoft Windows

Re: [MBZ] Holiday project

2009-12-14 Thread MG
Easy to put in for sure. With the 700R4 it will drop right into any vehicle that can carry one of the big blocks. You do want to look for the 6.5 though. It does have a bit more power without sacrificing longevity. I'll keep my eyes open down here for a blazer for you. Manfred Date: Sun,

Re: [MBZ] You don't see these very often

2009-12-14 Thread Bob Rentfro
Probably Dewey, Fleecem, and Howe cards. Bob R On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Donald Snook wrote: It was a Maybach. I don't think I have seen any of those driving around Wichita. It really was a beautiful car. An old couple climbed out of it and

Re: [MBZ] christmas decoration

2009-12-14 Thread Mountain Man
Philip wrote: Your house Or just being passed around? Sorry - I meant to start the whole thread saying this is being passed around. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Towing went well!

2009-12-14 Thread Chris N John
Mitch Haley wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedDimitri Seretakis wrote: Fuel pump on an SD? I thought that the injection pump served as the fuel pump. The lift pump is attached to the injection pump. If the filter is dry, you're sucking air from somewhere. Could

Re: [MBZ] You don't see these very often

2009-12-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Though it was Dewey Cheetam and Howe Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2009, at 7:57 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Probably Dewey, Fleecem, and Howe cards. Bob R On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Donald Snook wrote: It was a Maybach. I don't

[MBZ] Shooting Brakes

2009-12-14 Thread LWB250
Spiffy. http://www.weetstraw.com/home/article/Shooting-Brake/97 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] Say relief?

2009-12-14 Thread WILTON
'Guess I screwed myself out of $7 or so discount on a Rusty order this afternoon. I didn't say relief IAW his Dec 10 sales notice. So, a reminder to all; don't forget to say relief this month on your Rusty orders. ;)) Wilton ___

[MBZ] another way of speaking that will be dead soon enough

2009-12-14 Thread Gary Hurst
what a shame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn9cX5BaqYcNR=1feature=fvwp -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Jim Cathey
OK-maybe that's what he meant-now I recall that the 380 was the turning point-ca 82 or 83 from single to dual. I believe that ONLY the 380 motor, from '81 through '83, had the cheap-ass single-row timing chain. Probably to try to get better mileage due to less parasitic drag. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Say relief?

2009-12-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
I'll bet he will credit the loss back to you. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:56 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Guess I screwed myself out of $7 or so discount on a Rusty order this afternoon. I didn't say relief IAW his Dec 10 sales notice. So, a reminder to all; don't forget to say relief

Re: [MBZ] 124 axle replacement project, lesson

2009-12-14 Thread OK Don
Yup - I figured that out after I found that it wouldn't fit. I was too lazy to look it up myself, and just trusted that the right parts would arrive. Lesson learned! On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:16 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: The MB EPC (epc.startekinfo.com) is

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread OK Don
You're probably correct, as better milage was the only reason for the existance of the 380 engine. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I believe that ONLY the 380 motor, from '81 through '83, had the cheap-ass single-row timing chain. Probably to try to

Re: [MBZ] Holiday project

2009-12-14 Thread OK Don
So, does the megasquirt system deliver equal of more power, and what happened to fuel economy? I still wonder if converting a CIS system to an electronically controlled, squirt as needed vs dribble all the time would be significantly more effecient or not. On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:02 AM, LarryT

Re: [MBZ] christmas decoration

2009-12-14 Thread OK Don
But it's more fun when we think it's your house! On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Philip wrote: Your house Or just being passed around? Sorry - I meant to start the whole thread saying this is being passed around. mao

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Dieselhead
M102 also had single row chain. It was not in USA models. 123 230E etc. It is a little screamer. I have a single row chain and 102 tensioner for sale cheap, if anyone needs them OK-maybe that's what he meant-now I recall that the 380 was the turning point-ca 82 or 83 from single to

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Allan Streib
The M180 has a single chain... not sure if you were going that far back. Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: M102 also had single row chain. It was not in USA models. 123 230E etc. It is a little screamer. I have a single row chain and 102 tensioner for sale cheap, if anyone needs them

Re: [MBZ] 124 axle replacement project, lesson

2009-12-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:49:05 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Attached pictures show the difference between the two axles, and the marks inside the hub carrier. Lesson learned - regardless of what MB says, an A129 350 41 10 axle is NOT directly interchangable with the original axles in

Re: [MBZ] Say relief?

2009-12-14 Thread buymbparts
Wilton, call me in the morning. I'll give you the 10 percent. People, read your email, I send them for a reason. --Original Message-- From: WILTON Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: mercedes list ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Dec 14, 2009 8:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] Say

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread Jim Cathey
M102 also had single row chain. Sorry, I was talking about V configurations where chain wear is much greater than in I configurations, due to all the extra flexing back and forth. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Say relief?

2009-12-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah I forgot last week too. Remembered this week though. -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:56:41 -0500 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: [MBZ] Say relief? To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: c717894bc4c94507b688938a974d6...@wiltonpc Content-Type: text/plain;   

Re: [MBZ] Say relief?

2009-12-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
That is why you are going to beat Gary -- a web site can never beat a friendly voice on the phone. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:52 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Wilton, call me in the morning. I'll give you the 10 percent. People, read your email, I send them for a reason. --Original

Re: [MBZ] 140

2009-12-14 Thread RELNGSON
.The problem with the W140 is not mechanical, it's electronic. Self- igniting climate control, engine control (one box, does everything) and flaky wiring that fires the above again, make this a bad choice... Seems like the underdesigned front suspension, the door closers and their pump

Re: [MBZ] Say relief?

2009-12-14 Thread Allan Streib
Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com writes: That is why you are going to beat Gary -- a web site can never beat a friendly voice on the phone. Not necessarily true. A web site offers convenient 24x7 ordering. For me, for example, it's often not convenient to call during business hours ('cause

Re: [MBZ] Say relief?

2009-12-14 Thread Allan Streib
Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com writes: That is why you are going to beat Gary -- a web site can never beat a friendly voice on the phone. Not necessarily true. A web site offers convenient 24x7 ordering. For me, for example, it's often not convenient to call during business hours ('cause

Re: [MBZ] ethanol industry seeks bigger subsidy

2009-12-14 Thread Fmiser
Mitch Haley wrote: Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Then we should at least have an option of E10 at the pump. I want to go back to seeing all pumps plainly labeled. I can run avgas in my chain saws, but any car I own newer than a 1977 Saab shouldn't have leaded gas in it. Yeah!! I

Re: [MBZ] 140

2009-12-14 Thread John Freer
Not to mention the evaporator. Compared to the evap repair, the door closer issue is just pocket change. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:08 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: .The problem with the W140 is not mechanical, it's electronic. Self- igniting climate control, engine control (one box, does

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread John Freer
We're talkin' about V8's here in this thread. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: M102 also had single row chain.  It was not in USA models.  123 230E etc.  It is a little screamer.  I have a single row chain and 102 tensioner for sale cheap, if anyone needs

Re: [MBZ] Megasquirt

2009-12-14 Thread RELNGSON
Hmmm. Sounds like some sort of distressing urological condition. RL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] More 140 pleasure

2009-12-14 Thread RELNGSON
...Not to mention the evaporator. Compared to the evap repair, the door closer issue is just pocket change... Oh well, sure but you take for granted everyone knows about that one since there have been hundreds of posts on the various MB lists over the years. I've seen a few 140s at the

Re: [MBZ] 1993 400sel?

2009-12-14 Thread E M
Hi Larry, On the whole, I have to say the 300E has been great! I do a good bit of my own work, but not a huge amount, mostly because I haven't had too many really big problems with the cars. I don't do suspension work, as I don't have the tools, but more so, because it scares me! When I look

Re: [MBZ] More 140 pleasure

2009-12-14 Thread E M
yeah, I think the evaporator is the very first component to go on the car, after the paint primer. Replacement requires dismantling back to that stage. I'm not sure, but I think according to the book, the paint may have to come off the car too during evaporator replacement. ;-) Ed 300E

Re: [MBZ] Holiday project

2009-12-14 Thread Peter Frederick
No, it won't. There is little or no benefit to pulsed injection unless it's into the cylinder, as Bosch discovered in the 70's. Hence the CIS -- mechanical, hence reliable, and accurate. Too accurate, in fact -- there is no sudden throttle opening enrichment. Benz stopped using it

Re: [MBZ] 140

2009-12-14 Thread Peter Frederick
I wasn't aware of the week front end, and no experience with the door closers. If they are similar to the 600s, this is a toy for the rich, who have a mechanic at home to fix them. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] 140

2009-12-14 Thread E M
Running a W140 is like maintaining a Smart Car, compared to a 600 SWB. lol Ed 300E 2009/12/14 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net I wasn't aware of the week front end, and no experience with the door closers. If they are similar to the 600s, this is a toy for the rich, who have a mechanic

Re: [MBZ] Megasquirt

2009-12-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Actually I'd be more distressed by urinary retention secondary to severe BPH. Actually, screw that, priapism would be scarier! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2009, at 10:24 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Hmmm. Sounds like some sort of distressing urological condition. RL

Re: [MBZ] Say relief?

2009-12-14 Thread harry watkins
Hey Rusty, how about me? I did the same as Wilton except I spent twice as much this morning. What email? Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Say

Re: [MBZ] Holiday project

2009-12-14 Thread OK Don
OK - perhaps I was thinking of another homebrew injection system - it did squirt at the same place the CIS injectors do, right above the intake valve. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: No, it won't. There is little or no benefit to pulsed injection

[MBZ] An interesting email signature ...

2009-12-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
Something I saw at work today: A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kickboxing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] More 140 pleasure

2009-12-14 Thread TE
You guys... As always, the issue of W140/C140 ownership and maintenance is always blown way out of proportion, based on someone's bad experience or list hearsay. I'd be interested to see how many of the list members who wax poetic on the 140 actually own, or have owned one. The C140, in my

Re: [MBZ] More 140 pleasure

2009-12-14 Thread E M
I don't think anyone would dispute that a W140 is an amazing car, to both be in, and drive. The car is what it is, and I think the general feeling is, know what you're getting into. It's a flagship car, that has a few well know problems and weaknesses, as ALL cars do. The difference being, some