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2013-04-07 Thread Hendrik Riessen
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Re: [MBZ] (no subject) well the hacker says so

2013-04-07 Thread Hendrik and fay
Ooops sorry looks like my yahoo got hacked, might be time to shut it down. Hendrik who is the real one On 07/04/13 15:56, Hendrik Riessen wrote: http://www.pieffepivision.com/cm/ziqm.kqdm Hendrik Riessen ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] It might rust but it's safe

2013-04-07 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
The moment I see kenrockwell in a URL, I know what will follow is only strong opinions and distorted facts. This guy loves to tell people what is good enough for them, even if its out dated, has known flaws, or has been replaced by a superior model. And hes always pushing his support my growing

[MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread WILTON
Why do the sorry-a$$ smokers/litterbugs walking past my house seem to think that it's OK to throw their cigarette butts in MY front yard for ME to pick up?!!? Like too many all around us, they don't seem to give a damned about anything but themselves and have no thought whatsoever about how

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Peter Frederick
The same reason the low-lives that live around me (high dollar exurbs these days) toss their bottles, cans, drink cups, and McDonald's trash out at the stop sign in my front yard. Americans, sadly, tend to be VERY trashy. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Two words: sprinkler system And to add a few more: strategically (or would that be tactically?)-aimed, with a remote You can be that old guy peering out his window ready to tell the kids to get off your damn lawn, but with the tonnage to back it up. --R On 4/7/13 9:48 AM, WILTON wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Dieselhead
Same reasons we have 50 million sorry-a$$ smokers/litterbugs on food stamps. Why do the sorry-a$$ smokers/litterbugs walking past my house seem to think that it's OK to throw their cigarette butts in MY front yard for ME to pick up?!!? Like too many all around us, they don't seem to give a

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Dieselhead
Same reason the slobs that go to stadiums (HS, college and pro) leave tons of trash behind, puke all over and turn the restrooms into places pigs would not live in. Why do the sorry-a$$ smokers/litterbugs walking past my house seem to think that it's OK to throw their cigarette butts in MY

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Why do the sorry-a$$ smokers/litterbugs walking past my house seem to think that it's OK to throw their cigarette butts in MY front yard for ME to pick up?!!? Like too many all around us, they don't seem to give a damned about anything but themselves and have no thought

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread WILTON
Years ago, when I could still walk and run without aid, I stepped outside my side, kitchen door one Saturday morning and heard empty cans, trash, etc., hitting the pavement in the street diagonally across my side and front yards. I looked up to see a white Chevy S-10 with Coors in red on the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Reminds me of a Reader's Digest story many years back. A guy pulls into a gas station somewhere in the middle West on vacation to gas up. Place is spotless, no dust, no trash, looks like someone's house. Absolutely no cigarette butts on the ground, back in the days when nearly everyone

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Monday morning, Mr. Coors screamed, They did WHAT? I repeated what I had seen his 2 sorry-a$$es in his truck do. I rushed several blocks to his office and sat the bag of trash on his desk as he thanked me profusely and said, I'll take care of 'em right now. Couple minutes

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: His wife says they must really work hard to keep this place so clean as a big Cadillac pulls up. Driver reaches down, pull the ashtray and dumps it on the ground as the gas monkey goes to fill up the car. That man was truly a class act, considering I don't remember

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread WILTON
'Damned appalling - trash and crap all up and down the streets and roads everywhere. I'd be highly embarrassed for any of my foreign friends to see it. I'm embarrassed, now, to think that Henny and his family might have seen such. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick

Re: [MBZ] It might rust but it's safe

2013-04-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: The moment I see kenrockwell in a URL, I know what will follow is only strong opinions and distorted facts. He's pretty hit and miss. I learned from him that a good workflow for cheapskate photographers is to get a

[MBZ] Now...no glow light

2013-04-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
Came out to test the wire from the ignition to the solenoid. I turn the key to the glow position and now there's no glow light. Jeez. Reckon it's the relay? If so, is it under the dash like the other W123s? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Brian Toscano
That's the just way it is in the South and it crosses all social classes. You're as likely to see trash being thrown out of an old pickup truck and you are a new Mercedes. Its right up there with farm activities that pollute the land and and water. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Mitch Haley

[MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
Here is the deal: turn the key to position 2 no glow light. Turn the key to start position, nothing.but I can hear one kinda loud click coming from the fuse bus area. The ignition switch (mechanical and electrical portions) has been replaced. New starter, new cables, line from ignition switch

Re: [MBZ] Now...no glow light

2013-04-07 Thread Dieselhead
If you got the starter wire on the wrong terminal of the new switch, chances are the wire to power the glow relay (and the light) is also on the wrong terminal. I'd guess your 80 is the same as mine. Mine has the old style ($350) glow relay behind the left headlight, mounted on the inner

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Dieselhead
Here is the deal: turn the key to position 2 no glow light. Turn the key to start position, nothing.but I can hear one kinda loud click coming from the fuse bus area. The ignition switch (mechanical and electrical portions) has been replaced. New starter, new cables, line from ignition switch

Re: [MBZ] Now...no glow light

2013-04-07 Thread Fmiser
Bob Rentfro wrote: Came out to test the wire from the ignition to the solenoid. I turn the key to the glow position and now there's no glow light. Jeez. Reckon it's the relay? If so, is it under the dash like the other W123s? The later W123s with parallel glow plugs have the relay on the

Re: [MBZ] Now...no glow light

2013-04-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
How does one test the glow plug relay? Bob R On Apr 7, 2013 1:48 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: If you got the starter wire on the wrong terminal of the new switch, chances are the wire to power the glow relay (and the light) is also on the wrong terminal. I'd guess your 80 is

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread WILTON
Is it just in the South? I haven't been up Nawth recently, but I doubt littering is limited to the South. Wilton - Original Message - From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Fmiser
Bob Rentfro wrote: Here is the deal: turn the key to position 2 no glow light. Turn the key to start position, nothing.but I can hear one kinda loud click coming from the fuse bus area. The ignition switch (mechanical and electrical portions) has been replaced. New starter, new cables,

Re: [MBZ] Now...no glow light

2013-04-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
Okay here's an update. The clicking is coming from the glow plug relay. I have juice on Hotwire going to it I have Juice across the fuse and now I'm going to check individual pins I suppose. BobR On Apr 7, 2013 1:57 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: How does one test the glow plug

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
The previous owner had this car all jacked up. The ignition switch was a disaster so I replaced it. This is a separate problem from the initial problem. I think I have it narrowed down to the glowplug relay now. Its clicking when I turn the key to position three. Bob R On Apr 7, 2013 2:05 PM,

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Did you REPLACE THE FUSE? Those things get wonky easily. --R On 4/7/13 5:07 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: The previous owner had this car all jacked up. The ignition switch was a disaster so I replaced it. This is a separate problem from the initial problem. I think I have it narrowed down to the

[MBZ] OT A tasty recipe

2013-04-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I might have to make this tonight http://zabars.typepad.com/recipes/2013/04/garlic-shrimp-pasta.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
You mean the big 80 amp one? It looks good I took it off and cleaned around it and put it back in. I think Herr Doktor would be okay with that. Bob R On Apr 7, 2013 2:11 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you REPLACE THE FUSE? Those things get wonky easily. --R

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread clay
Takes place all over, just less of an ownership society below the Mason Dixon from my experience. Same thing happens in all places where the locals have no investment in the common good. Good examples are housing authority ghetto, walmart, open roadways, public schools, sports arenas, oceans,

Re: [MBZ] Now...no glow light

2013-04-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
But even if the glow plug relay is messed up the engine should still turn over correct? I'm not getting anything when I turn the key over except the click in the glow plug relay. Bob R On Apr 7, 2013 2:05 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Okay here's an update. The clicking is coming

Re: [MBZ] Now...no glow light

2013-04-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
I checked all the glow plugs and they are all .3 ohms. On Apr 7, 2013 2:27 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: But even if the glow plug relay is messed up the engine should still turn over correct? I'm not getting anything when I turn the key over except the click in the glow plug

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Brian Toscano
Littering does occur all over, but it seems more pronounced in the South. How many of us frequent the ghettos of NYC or Detroit? The things they do there would blow your mind. You're more likely to see people empty entire ash trays or their bottle of Mellow Yellow that they spit into from their

Re: [MBZ] OT A tasty recipe

2013-04-07 Thread WILTON
Hmmm -- 'take me about 5 hours to get there. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 5:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT A tasty recipe I might have to make this tonight

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Dan Penoff
It's certainly not a class thing. I saw kids in the upper middle class elementary school I used to work in just dump stuff on the floor (this was a very small percentage of the enrollment, I might point out.) The few times I saw it I immediately ordered the offender to clean up their mess and

Re: [MBZ] OT A tasty recipe

2013-04-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Here's a suggestion: Bag of frozen medium shrimp (2 pounds?) Packet of italian dressing mix High quality olive oil Balsamic vinegar Water Fresh rosemary leaves Big ziploc bag Grill with a grate that has small holes, or a tray with small holes you can put on top of the grill grate Mix up

[MBZ] Interwebs under attack?

2013-04-07 Thread clay
Anybody else having a difficult time getting access to the inter webs? Mail seems slow to download and the web sites are coming back timed out. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Interwebs under attack?

2013-04-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Not here. It's probably because you're on Comcast. According to my brother, they suck and have done so consistently for years. Dan On Apr 7, 2013, at 5:52 PM, clay wrote: Anybody else having a difficult time getting access to the inter webs? Mail seems slow to download and the web sites

Re: [MBZ] Interwebs under attack?

2013-04-07 Thread clay
i tend to agree On Apr 7, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Not here. It's probably because you're on Comcast. According to my brother, they suck and have done so consistently for years. Dan On Apr 7, 2013, at 5:52 PM, clay wrote: Anybody else having a difficult time getting

Re: [MBZ] OT A tasty recipe

2013-04-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Shrimp are good marinated in lots of things. I had a lot of hot peppers in pots last summer (no el merde del gato), made a coupla sauces with stuff I had around -- one was pineapple mango with lime and rum (and some vinegar in it to thin it a bit), it goes really nicely with shrimp and fish,

Re: [MBZ] OT A tasty recipe

2013-04-07 Thread WILTON
Lemme check that MapQuest for Tampa. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT A tasty recipe Here's a suggestion: Bag of frozen medium shrimp (2

Re: [MBZ] Now...no glow light

2013-04-07 Thread Dieselhead
But even if the glow plug relay is messed up the engine should still turn over correct? I'm not getting anything when I turn the key over except the click in the glow plug relay. Bob R I forgot that your 80 has the series GPs. If one goes out, they all go out. Turn the switch to glow, and

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Hendrik and fay
Question is, you love your country right? So why trash it? Perhaps send em to live at the rubbish dump for a while. Me thinks it's the 'someone else will clean up after me' attitude. And don't worry we have grot bags here too, took some visiting yanks for a drive through the hills and we stopped

Re: [MBZ] OT A tasty recipe

2013-04-07 Thread Max Dillon
Sounds good! We made rack of lamb on the rotisserie for Easter. SWMBO marinated the lamb overnight in wine, rosemary, garlic, some other secret ingredients. It was so good we had to make it again! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] It might rust but it's safe or is it?

2013-04-07 Thread Hendrik and fay
Yeah but he is only referencing this http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/iihs_safest.html or are they in league with kenny and it's all part of the big conspiracy that mao keeps warning us about? Hendrik who managed to keep his cool while daughter was reversing On 07/04/13 21:56,

[MBZ] OT - Space Station

2013-04-07 Thread WILTON
No, this is not a Sondy Tale. 'Just watched the Space Station go over; nice high angle nearly directly overhead; beautiful sight - nice and bright; going a tad fast. ;) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread WILTON
Too many don't seem to give a damned; seem to think somebody else is gonna take care of it for 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Max Dillon
Not my experience, here in the Low Country. For the most part very clean. There are some loosers who litter, but enough folks that care that it gets picked up quickly. Southern Italy, Naples area to be exact, VERY trashed, really a shame. Litter and refuse all over. Extremely beautiful

Re: [MBZ] OT - Space Station

2013-04-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have watched it a couple times it's pretty cool. It's coming over at 9:13 here tonight but its cloudy so I won't see it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2013, at 7:53 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: No, this is not a Sondy Tale. 'Just watched the Space Station go over; nice high angle

Re: [MBZ] OT - Space Station

2013-04-07 Thread Craig
On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 20:53:47 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: No, this is not a Sondy Tale. 'Just watched the Space Station go over; nice high angle nearly directly overhead; beautiful sight - nice and bright; going a tad fast. ;) Well, certainly faster than the terrestrial velocities

Re: [MBZ] Now...no glow light

2013-04-07 Thread Kevin Kraly
It's a money pit, it's time to sell it. I'll give you $500 for it. Kevin in LaPorte CO Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Came out to test the wire from the ignition to the solenoid. I turn the key to the glow position and now there's no

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Max Dillon
Bingo, sounds like your wiring is messed up, AND you've got other issues now complicating the scene. You probably need to start with a wiring diagram, and validate each and every wire connected to the ignition switch and the glow plug relay and the starter. The AC wiring on my '87 wagon had

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Max Dillon
Should click (energize) at position 2, position 3 is the last spring loaded position which energizes the starter? I'm assuming position zero is off, and 1 is the accessory position... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: The

Re: [MBZ] OT - Space Station

2013-04-07 Thread Dan Penoff
It has passed over here the last two nights. Last night was a good one - I stepped outside and watched it. Missed it tonight. I wonder if you can make out any details if you have binoculars? Dan On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have watched it a couple times it's

Re: [MBZ] OT - Space Station over Uranus

2013-04-07 Thread Hendrik and fay
You might see two moons in the sky? Hendrik who has seen that space thingy on the TV On 08/04/13 12:13, Dan Penoff wrote: It has passed over here the last two nights. Last night was a good one - I stepped outside and watched it. Missed it tonight. I wonder if you can make out any details

Re: [MBZ] OT - Space Station

2013-04-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have wondered that myself Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:43 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: It has passed over here the last two nights. Last night was a good one - I stepped outside and watched it. Missed it tonight. I wonder if you can make out any details if you

Re: [MBZ] OT - Space Station

2013-04-07 Thread WILTON
It's at Goldilocks speed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Space Station On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 20:53:47 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT - Space Station

2013-04-07 Thread Craig
On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 23:14:22 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: It's at Goldilocks speed. Not too fast and not too slow, but just right. :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread Craig
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 17:42:16 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I made it a point to be there when his mom picked him up that day. Gee, Mrs. x, Tommy here says you pick up after him if he throws his trash on the floor. I most certainly do not. That's good, because that is the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Space Station

2013-04-07 Thread WILTON
I tried binoculars; a little better definition and a lot more light, but because of my tremor, I couldn't hold it still enough for a good look. 'Had it down to a small figure eight in my field of view. Next time, I'll have a stick with me to help steady the binoculars. BTW, years ago, I'd

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day

2013-04-07 Thread WILTON
'Nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Rant question of the day On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 17:42:16 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com

Re: [MBZ] OT A tasty recipe

2013-04-07 Thread Russ Williams
Love Rack of Lamb. I did a Garlic Stuffed Pork Roast for D-I-L's B-day today. Birned it for 2 days. M'm M'm Good Also made her favorite Cake, Red Velvet from scratch On 4/7/2013 19:52, Max Dillon wrote: Sounds good! We made rack of lamb on the rotisserie for Easter. SWMBO marinated the

Re: [MBZ] OT A tasty recipe

2013-04-07 Thread Craig
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 23:01:10 -0500 Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: Love Rack of Lamb. I did a Garlic Stuffed Pork Roast for D-I-L's B-day today. Birned it for 2 days. M'm M'm Good Also made her favorite Cake, Red Velvet from scratch Birned? Craig