Re: Turn off Swap on boot disk

2019-11-24 Thread gwes
On 11/24/19 9:35 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2019-11-22, gwes wrote: First, why is your workload causing swapping? That hasn't been a good idea since the beginning of computing. Even if the main workload is OK, relinking the kernel (reorder_kernel) causes swapping on smaller-memory systems.

Re: Turn off Swap on boot disk

2019-11-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2019-11-22, gwes wrote: > First, why is your workload causing swapping? That hasn't been > a good idea since the beginning of computing. Even if the main workload is OK, relinking the kernel (reorder_kernel) causes swapping on smaller-memory systems. > I've never seen an Alix so this may be i

Re: Turn off Swap on boot disk

2019-11-23 Thread Sean Kamath
> On Nov 21, 2019, at 23:54, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > wait until you see the next thing i'm interested in. modern > machines will barely notice it, but alix's will quake. I look forward to what’s in store. As for all the other helpful comments (from Theo and others), thank you. The worklo

Re: Turn off Swap on boot disk

2019-11-22 Thread gwes
those for swap. Despite different attempts (setting the mount_opts to xx, setting mount_opts to “priority=1”), I can’t seem to prevent the swap on the boot disk being added with priority = 0. Can I do anything to turn it off or change the priority, short of changing the filesystem type? Thanks

Re: Turn off Swap on boot disk

2019-11-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
he default layout on a 2G compact flash drive has. So, I got some 1G > > USB thumb drives, and want to use JUST those for swap. Despite different > > attempts (setting the mount_opts to xx, setting mount_opts to > > “priority=1”), I can’t seem to prevent the swap on the boot dis

Re: Turn off Swap on boot disk

2019-11-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
Sean Kamath wrote: > > On Nov 21, 2019, at 09:55, Kenneth Gober wrote: > > ... > > The need for more swap may be related to kernel relinking -- it might be an > > interesting experiment to see if your existing swap space is enough with > > kernel relinking disabled. > > Yes, precisely. > > I d

Re: Turn off Swap on boot disk

2019-11-21 Thread Sebastien Marie
me 1G > USB thumb drives, and want to use JUST those for swap. Despite different > attempts (setting the mount_opts to xx, setting mount_opts to “priority=1”), > I can’t seem to prevent the swap on the boot disk being added with priority = > 0. > > Can I do anything to turn

Re: Turn off Swap on boot disk

2019-11-21 Thread Sean Kamath
> On Nov 21, 2019, at 09:55, Kenneth Gober wrote: > ... > The need for more swap may be related to kernel relinking -- it might be an > interesting experiment to see if your existing swap space is enough with > kernel relinking disabled. Yes, precisely. I did add some larger CF cards on machi

Re: Turn off Swap on boot disk

2019-11-21 Thread Kenneth Gober
gt; attempts (setting the mount_opts to xx, setting mount_opts to > “priority=1”), I can’t seem to prevent the swap on the boot disk being > added with priority = 0. > > Can I do anything to turn it off or change the priority, short of changing > the filesystem type? I wouldn't.

Turn off Swap on boot disk

2019-11-21 Thread Sean Kamath
(setting the mount_opts to xx, setting mount_opts to “priority=1”), I can’t seem to prevent the swap on the boot disk being added with priority = 0. Can I do anything to turn it off or change the priority, short of changing the filesystem type? Thanks, Sean

Re: Bad sectors on boot disk

2018-10-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
on HDD in OpenBSD (Part I) > > at: > > > https://www.s-vp.com/blog/post/how-to-repair-bad-sectors-on-hdd-in-openbsd-part-i > > Question 1: > Is it possible to repair "wd0a"? > Do I need another boot disk to do the repair? > I'm in the process o

Bad sectors on boot disk

2018-10-22 Thread aretes27884
le to repair "wd0a"? Do I need another boot disk to do the repair? I'm in the process of building another boot disk with the identical OpenBSD version. I'm assuming it will take less time this way since I can copy the settings from a backup. Question 2: Once I build the n

Re: getting data from degraded RAID 1 boot disk

2017-02-01 Thread Olivier Cherrier
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:32:44AM -0500, ji...@devio.us wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 01:33:54PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 04:12:26AM -0500, Jiri B wrote: > > > Should have kernel automatically create 'sd4' for degraded RAID 1 > > > but it does not? > > > > I be

Re: getting data from degraded RAID 1 boot disk

2017-02-01 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:32:44AM -0500, Jiri B wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 01:33:54PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 04:12:26AM -0500, Jiri B wrote: > > > Should have kernel automatically create 'sd4' for degraded RAID 1 > > > but it does not? > > > > I believe it

Re: getting data from degraded RAID 1 boot disk

2017-02-01 Thread Jiri B
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 01:33:54PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 04:12:26AM -0500, Jiri B wrote: > > Should have kernel automatically create 'sd4' for degraded RAID 1 > > but it does not? > > I believe it will auto assemble if the disk is present at boot time. ^^ This do

Re: getting data from degraded RAID 1 boot disk

2017-02-01 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 04:12:26AM -0500, Jiri B wrote: > Should have kernel automatically create 'sd4' for degraded RAID 1 > but it does not? I believe it will auto assemble if the disk is present at boot time. But not when you hotplug the disk.

Re: getting data from degraded RAID 1 boot disk

2017-02-01 Thread Jiri B
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:55:21PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 05:23:10PM -0500, Jiri B wrote: > > I have a disk which used to be boot disk of a degraded RAID 1 (softraid). > > The second disk is totally gone. > > > > I don't want

Re: getting data from degraded RAID 1 boot disk

2017-01-31 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 05:23:10PM -0500, Jiri B wrote: > I have a disk which used to be boot disk of a degraded RAID 1 (softraid). > The second disk is totally gone. > > I don't want to use this disk as RAID 1 disk anymore, just to get data > from it. > > I'm as

getting data from degraded RAID 1 boot disk

2017-01-31 Thread Jiri B
I have a disk which used to be boot disk of a degraded RAID 1 (softraid). The second disk is totally gone. I don't want to use this disk as RAID 1 disk anymore, just to get data from it. I'm asking because when I plugged the disk, bioctl said 'not enough disks'. Do we real

softraid RAID1 won't come up on boot - disk read errors during rebuild caused only good device to go offline

2011-07-18 Thread sam bledsoe
My HP Proliant D140 G3 running 4.9 CURRENT.MP with one modification (lowered UDMA mode, see just below) lost its softraid RAID1 volume - it will not be brought online at boot. Can someone tell me if it's possible, and how, to bring this volume up from what I think is a softraid partition that stil

Re: boot disk ??? closed

2009-08-07 Thread Edho P Arief
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:02 AM, PJ wrote: > Michael wrote: >> PJ, you wrote (in part) "I already posted wherefrom - openBSD ftp >> site; the burning was done exaactly the same as for the FreeBSD and >> many other files without ever having any problems... and I mean, EVER >> !" >>> I'd say you are m

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-07 Thread Nick Guenther
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Chris Dukes wrote: > > Noone in their right mind installs an operating system just to install > an operating system. For the matter, noone in their right mind uses > a computer to just use a computer. > There are rational human oriented end goals for which installin

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread Chris Dukes
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 02:20:37PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Chris Dukes wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 12:54:12PM -0400, PJ wrote: > > [ A lot of crap snipped ] > > > > Phil, > > You failed to answer the question. > > "What the hell is your end goal?" > > > > I have a simpler question for you. > > Ar

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread STeve Andre'
r help? or if it's about setting up > OpenBSD, it's that I need an OS that is functional and reliable and > more-or-less user friendly. MS is out as it is non of the above (user > friendly, maybe if you're an idiot). FreeBSD used to be great but just > slid downhill... Linux is to

Re: boot disk ??? closed

2009-08-06 Thread PJ
Michael wrote: > PJ, you wrote (in part) "I already posted wherefrom - openBSD ftp > site; the burning was done exaactly the same as for the FreeBSD and > many other files without ever having any problems... and I mean, EVER > !" > > If burning files or images worked before, why should we think it

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread bofh
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Michael wrote: > > If burning files or images worked before, why should we think it > was/is an hardware or bios problem? You obviously did not install the ESP dependency for the FREE HELP DESK package. Can someone please check the ports tree? -Tai -- http://w

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread Grumpy
> > >> I've managed by myself so far > That's the wierdest idea of "by myself" I've ever seen. > Go back to your cup holder. Please, cupholders deserve a quiet life, too.

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread Michael
PJ, you wrote (in part) "I already posted wherefrom - openBSD ftp site; the burning was done exaactly the same as for the FreeBSD and many other files without ever having any problems... and I mean, EVER !" If burning files or images worked before, why should we think it was/is an hardware or bios

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread Tony Abernethy
> >> I've managed by myself so far That's the wierdest idea of "by myself" I've ever seen. Go back to your cup holder.

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread PJ
Bret S. Lambert wrote: > On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 02:24:21PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> I've managed by myself so far >> > > Except, really, you haven't, because you apparently (unless I've missed > something) You did miss everything... if you were paying attention and not emotionally hyped up (I

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 02:24:21PM -0400, PJ wrote: > I've managed by myself so far Except, really, you haven't, because you apparently (unless I've missed something) still can't make a bootable .iso. You come in and ask what are charitably described as ignorant questions, immediately blaming ever

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread Marco Peereboom
t is functional and reliable and > more-or-less user friendly. MS is out as it is non of the above (user > friendly, maybe if you're an idiot). FreeBSD used to be great but just > slid downhill... Linux is too spread-out and has too many threads... I > don't care for their confusing

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread PJ
Chris Dukes wrote: > On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 12:54:12PM -0400, PJ wrote: > [ A lot of crap snipped ] > > Phil, > You failed to answer the question. > "What the hell is your end goal?" > > I have a simpler question for you. > Are you too incompetent to answer a question like "What the hell is > your

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread PJ
if you're an idiot). FreeBSD used to be great but just slid downhill... Linux is too spread-out and has too many threads... I don't care for their confusing philosophies... I haven't looked at NetBSD but have heard of it and I like what I heard about OpenBSD from Neal. Now what is the pu

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread Chris Dukes
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 12:54:12PM -0400, PJ wrote: [ A lot of crap snipped ] Phil, You failed to answer the question. "What the hell is your end goal?" I have a simpler question for you. Are you too incompetent to answer a question like "What the hell is your end goal?" A) Yes B) No C) I don't k

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread PJ
neal hogan wrote: >>> Temper, temper. >>> >>> >> If anyone had taken seriously all the problems and hormanure I have had >> to put up with for the last two they would have either gone out and done >> something stupid to someone else or to themselves... I have to vent my >> frustrations so

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread PJ
files that were important (php and mysql data files) and prepared to start installing OpenBSD. Well, I suddenly found myself with an impossible situation: impossible to boot from the server on which I had just installed a brand new dvd/cd drive. I regrettably thought that the problem was with the bo

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread Chris Dukes
Phil, After looking through your belligerence here and through http://marc.info/?a=11841782285&r=1&w=2 I have one question, what the hell is your end goal? As far as I can determine, getting OpenBSD or FreeBSD to run is only a perceived line item to that goal. Ditto for learning PHP. My cur

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread Eric Furman
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:18 -0400, "STeve Andre'" wrote: > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 20:40:50 Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > The OpenBSD community is a very fun and helpful bunch. But we're not > > > good at suffering fools or assholes. > > > > Oh come now... we are very good at making fools and assh

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Bruce Bauer
Marcus Watts , misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: boot disk ??? Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:40:50 -0600 > The OpenBSD community is a very fun and helpful bunch. But we're not > good at suffering fools or assholes. Oh come now... we are very good at making fools and assholes suffer.

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread STeve Andre'
On Wednesday 05 August 2009 20:40:50 Theo de Raadt wrote: > > The OpenBSD community is a very fun and helpful bunch. But we're not > > good at suffering fools or assholes. > > Oh come now... we are very good at making fools and assholes suffer. What I want to know is why we haven't heard from Gru

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Noah Pugsley
PJ wrote: This is a great start for a new system. Temper, temper. If anyone had taken seriously all the problems and hormanure I have had to put up with for the last two they would have either gone out and done something stupid to someone else or to themselves... I have to vent my frus

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Bob Beck
> >I saw your post on that list, and I knew he was coming, so I shipped > >out a broken snapshot to cause him harm, on purpose. Be sure to let us know if it i being reccommended on freebsd or linux lists in the next week and we filesystem developers will try to make sure the tree is well and trul

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Theo de Raadt
> The OpenBSD community is a very fun and helpful bunch. But we're not > good at suffering fools or assholes. Oh come now... we are very good at making fools and assholes suffer.

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Jason Dixon
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:25:25PM -0500, neal hogan wrote: > > > Temper, temper. > > > > > If anyone had taken seriously all the problems and hormanure I have had > > to put up with for the last two they would have either gone out and done > > something stupid to someone else or to themselves..

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread neal hogan
> > Temper, temper. > > > If anyone had taken seriously all the problems and hormanure I have had > to put up with for the last two they would have either gone out and done > something stupid to someone else or to themselves... I have to vent my > frustrations somewhere and whatever got in the w

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Bofh (Peter Kay)
PJ wrote: It really pisses me off that everyone assumes that the poor sap who is asking for help is too stupid to have done things right and they just forget that maybe the problem is in the SOURCE ! I know what a bootable image usually looks like... but neither of those I downloaded look right.

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread PJ
Marcus Watts wrote: > PJ writes: > ... > >> It's not I who is having problems. I think it's OpenBSD. >> > > Assigning blame before resolving the problem is counter-productive. > > >> It doesn't take much to look at the contents of the ISO file and see >> that it won't boot. But I guess

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread PJ
Nick Guenther wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM, PJ wrote: > >> Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: >> > > >> It really pisses me off that everyone assumes that the poor sap who is >> asking for help is too stupid to have done things right and they just >> forget that maybe the problem is

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Marcus Watts
PJ writes: ... > It's not I who is having problems. I think it's OpenBSD. Assigning blame before resolving the problem is counter-productive. > > It doesn't take much to look at the contents of the ISO file and see > that it won't boot. But I guess I'm a glutton for frustration and I was > jus

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread neal hogan
> > WOW! You are an over-reacting baby! > > > > I want to apologize to the oBSD community for suggesting that this guy > > move to oBSD. He indicated that he was having difficulties with fBSD > > (for years) on an fBSD mailing-list and I thought I'd lend a hand. I'm > > sorry that I did. > > I sa

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
Nick Bender wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM, PJ wrote: > > Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > >> Once you've cleared that hurdle, It would help a lot with > more details > >> about the hardware, what image file you are using and where it came > >> from (ie is it the i386 one, the amd64 one, off

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Paul D. Ouderkirk
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > PJ writes: > >>> The first question should probably be, did you verify that the .iso >>> file matched the checksum before you burned it to disk? >> Checksums match! > > Show me. I need to see the exact command and any output. > Before

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Nick Bender
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM, PJ wrote: > Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: >> Once you've cleared that hurdle, It would help a lot with more details >> about the hardware, what image file you are using and where it came >> from (ie is it the i386 one, the amd64 one, off an official mirror >> site, or

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
PJ writes: >> The first question should probably be, did you verify that the .iso >> file matched the checksum before you burned it to disk? > Checksums match! Show me. I need to see the exact command and any output. > I already posted wherefrom - openBSD ftp site; the burning was done > exaa

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Josh Grosse
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 06:08:33PM -0400, PJ wrote: > I know what a bootable image usually looks like... but neither of those > I downloaded look right. > Unless, of course the booting is supposed to be done in some > incomprehesible way from some other operating system in some mysterious > way tha

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Nixdevnull
PJ wrote: Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: PJ writes: Once you've cleared that hurdle, It would help a lot with more details about the hardware, what image file you are using and where it came from (ie is it the i386 one, the amd64 one, off an official mirror site, or something different) and what a

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > having any problems... and I mean, EVER ! > > > Burning CD images to DVD media does not always work, > > > for example (probably a stupid one that risks insistent > > > contradictions, but well,), so any detail you supply could be helpful > > > in sorting out whatever the problem is. > > It r

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread neal hogan
> having any problems... and I mean, EVER ! > > Burning CD images to DVD media does not always work, > > for example (probably a stupid one that risks insistent > > contradictions, but well,), so any detail you supply could be helpful > > in sorting out whatever the problem is. > It really pisses

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Nick Guenther
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM, PJ wrote: > Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > It really pisses me off that everyone assumes that the poor sap who is > asking for help is too stupid to have done things right and they just > forget that maybe the problem is in the SOURCE ! > I know what a bootable image

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, PJ wrote: > It's not I who is having problems. I think it's OpenBSD. I think you're not trying to help yourself. Even you beeing ironic in your first message, people are trying to help. -- Daniel Bolgheroni FEI - Faculdade de Engenharia Industrial http://www.dbolgheroni.eng.

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Liam J. Foy
PJ wrote: Unless, of course the booting is supposed to be done in some incomprehesible way from some other operating system in some mysterious way that is not spelled out anywhere where I can find it, anyway. :-) You've done it wrong. Sure as eggs are eggs you did it wrong. Promise! Sorry, bu

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread PJ
Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > PJ writes: > > >> Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. >> > > Strange. The installNN.iso images are definitely meant to be bootable. > When I have not had easy access to a real CD set, I have at times > booted and installed m

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
PJ writes: > It doesn't take much to look at the contents of the ISO file and see > that it won't boot. Assuming you're not just trolling, this sounds very much like a corrupted download. They *do* happen from time to time. Check whether your .iso file matches the MD5 checksum listed in the M

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Theo de Raadt
> It doesn't take much to look at the contents of the ISO file and see > that it won't boot. But I guess I'm a glutton for frustration and I was > just laughing at myself. > Now what. > This is a great start for a new system. Your attitude stinks. Good luck with life.

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread PJ
STeve Andre' wrote: > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 15:15:13 PJ wrote: > >> What am I missing here? >> Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. >> This is not a very good beginning for someone who has just decided to >> trash FreeBSD. >> FBSDs disks boot with no prob

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread STeve Andre'
On Wednesday 05 August 2009 15:15:13 PJ wrote: > What am I missing here? > Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. > This is not a very good beginning for someone who has just decided to > trash FreeBSD. > FBSDs disks boot with no problem... It would help very much

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Nick Holland
PJ wrote: What am I missing here? Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. Yes, it does. This is not a very good beginning for someone who has just decided to trash FreeBSD. FBSDs disks boot with no problem... As do properly created OpenBSD boot disks. Give u

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread neal hogan
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:15:13PM -0400, PJ wrote: > What am I missing here? > Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. It's gotta be something you're doing, for 4.5 has been around for a while (since May) and would have been fixed by now, if it were a problem. > T

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:15:13PM -0400, PJ wrote: > What am I missing here? > Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. > This is not a very good beginning for someone who has just decided to > trash FreeBSD. > FBSDs disks boot with no problem... > it would help if

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
PJ writes: > Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. Strange. The installNN.iso images are definitely meant to be bootable. When I have not had easy access to a real CD set, I have at times booted and installed machines from disks burned from those files, so I sus

boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread PJ
What am I missing here? Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. This is not a very good beginning for someone who has just decided to trash FreeBSD. FBSDs disks boot with no problem... -- HervC) Kempf: "Pour sauver la planC(te, sortez du capitalisme." -