On Tuesday 08 March 2005 10:21 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 15:54 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers
operate in vi mode reflexively.
I am looking
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 08 March 2005 10:21 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 15:54 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers
operate in vi mode reflexively.
I am
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 15:54 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers operate
in vi mode reflexively.
I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say the same thing. :)
On Friday 04 Mar 2005 20:54, Aron Smith wrote:
On Thursday 03 March 2005 11:36 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
you all do know that as root urpmi rute will install rute,, adn just
typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute
I agree with Julie, don't give up. You are much more competent than I was
when I started with Linux in 1998. (I think). I am not a computer guru,
geek (well a wannabe maybe) or programmer and have to wear a name tag to
remember my own name, but I have progressed to the point where I don't
Whatever is best for you Rosemary.
I love Linux, but live on solar power in the bush using a laptop, no
serial port, with 31000 kbps Internet access. The desktop uses too much
power, but it runs Linux and connects to the net when we have a bit of
spare electrical power. But I use mainly the
Everything takes time to learn. That includes windows! How long did it
take you to learn to use a computer in the beginning with any semblance
of skill? I have had a terrible time changing because I was virtually
computer illiterate to begin with, but I was dissatisfied enough with
PS I assume you heve the kdegraphics-kghostview and/or acroread rpms
installed. KGhostview is a program (and embeddable KPart) to display *.PDF
and *.PS files.
Yes was pretty amazed when first installed mandrake 10.1 and cruising the
menus - to see what was there.
Rosemary
you all do know that as root urpmi rute will install rute,, adn just
typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute
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Actually typing rute in cli didn't start rute for me. Though I haven't
urpmi'ed it yet.
On Thursday 03 March 2005 11:36 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
you all do know that as root urpmi rute will install rute,, adn just
typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute
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Actually typing rute in cli didn't start rute
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:59 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
Which is why I'm on my fourth
reinstall.
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~ maybe, it is handy, to have entire duplicate system, on a spare
partition . . . a matter of moments, with RSYNC
best rgds
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:11 am, riccardo wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:59 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
Which is why I'm on my fourth
reinstall.
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~ maybe, it is handy, to have entire duplicate system, on a spare
partition . . . a matter of moments, with RSYNC
Thanks!
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to
XP compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
What about it?
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 08:19 am, Julie Sloan referred:
handy, to have entire duplicate system
~ for example . . . have cron daemon, once-a-week, run script :-
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.
#!/bin/sh
#
# use rsync to backup / to /dev/hdb6 on Sunday
#
mount -t
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On Tuesday 01 Mar 2005 07:59, Julie Sloan wrote:
[...like changing file names -- do you know, in windows, you can't move,
that is to say, drag and drop a file with the .exe extension? When you
try, you end up with a shortcut to the original
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On Tuesday 01 Mar 2005 06:19, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Hello listers,
Thanks to all who replied to my post. I'm sorry - I was pretty
unreasonable on reflection. I have been frustrated at one or two things,
and also on night duty, which
On Tuesday 01 Mar 2005 00:41, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 28 Feb 2005 11:11, SnapafunFrank wrote:
Bottom line, use the apps that work in Linux for now and stick to
configuring one preferred app at a time. You get to learn Linux and end
up with the exact app you want.
I remember that when
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:28 am, l_duvall wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
[...like changing file names -- do you know, in windows, you can't
move, that is to say, drag and drop a file with the .exe extension?
When you try, you end up with a shortcut to the original location.
The stupid
I've been where you are now Rosemary and I can tell you I did go back
to windows , that is until I hit their first freeze at about 5minutes
in wanting to format a simple word document.
It then dawned on me that though Mandrake was not going along as easy as
some of the stuff I was used
I think it is actualy harder changing from Windows to Linux, then it is
starting out fresh with Linux. You have to learn some new ways of doing
things. If you are starting out fresh, you don't have to unlearn
things. Most people have forgotten the learning process they went
through when
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:30 am, riccardo wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 08:19 am, Julie Sloan referred:
handy, to have entire duplicate system
~ for example . . . have cron daemon, once-a-week, run script :-
Thanks riccardo, I will add this and your run daily script into that file
of
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:52 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
I think it is actualy harder changing from Windows to Linux, then it is
starting out fresh with Linux. You have to learn some new ways of doing
things. If you are starting out fresh, you don't have to unlearn
things. Most
You and me both. I think for windows power users to make the change is
actually not very easy. The frustration level is so high when you knew
your way around quite complex things and you are having to learn fairly
basic ones.
Anyway thanks all. I'm not giving up.
Good. Enjoy!
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:28 am, l_duvall wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
[...like changing file names -- do you know, in windows, you can't
move, that is to say, drag and drop a file with the .exe
extension?
When you try, you end up with a shortcut to the original location.
The stupid
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Hello listers,
Thanks to all who replied to my post. I'm sorry - I was pretty unreasonable
on reflection. I have been frustrated at one or two things, and also on
night duty, which does nothing for my tolerance! I do aplogise for sounding
off.
Just for
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Hello listers,
Thanks to all who replied to my post. I'm sorry - I was pretty
unreasonable on reflection. I have been frustrated at one or two
things, and also on night duty, which does nothing for my tolerance!
I do aplogise for sounding
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can handle
this site but have I got it easy for you
Go to this site : http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz [ note the
*.gz bit - Mozilla can
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 11:38, SnapafunFrank wrote:
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
(snip)
Go to this site : http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz [ note the *.gz
bit - Mozilla can handle that - let me know if Firefox can please ] ...
At the very top left of this page is this link..
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 13:40, Pablo Ortuzar wrote:
Rosemary,
I assume you're using KDE. With konqueror, go here
http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2
Left click on download pdf (upper left)
A popup window will appear. Left click on Save As.
In your home folder, you will have a
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:28 am, l_duvall wrote:
As someone who once upon a time did full-time tech support for Windows 95
98, believe me, you can do as much damage in 95/98 as an ordinary user
as you can as su in Linux, but 95/98 requires a lot less effort to do so.
But
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to
XP compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
What about it?
I went
Martell, Larry wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:28 am, l_duvall wrote:
As someone who once upon a time did full-time tech support for Windows 95
98, believe me, you can do as much damage in 95/98 as an ordinary user
as you can as su in Linux, but 95/98 requires a lot less
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:59 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
Was it harder adapting to XP, or Linux?
Linux was harder, no question about it.
Just shows how truly different peoples experiences can be. I started out in
computing in 1983 with an Atari 800Xl. Moved up to the Atari ST line around
1985
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 09:00 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:30 am, riccardo wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 08:19 am, Julie Sloan referred:
handy, to have entire duplicate system
~ for example . . . have cron daemon, once-a-week, run script :-
Thanks riccardo, I
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 06:50 -0500, Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can handle
this site but have I got it easy for you
Go to this site :
Julie Sloan claimed:
But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it!
Julie
--
Um, you need to boot the computer for it to break ;-)
I think XP is the first version of Windows I've not broken to the point
of re-installing. 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000...can't count the
number of
Very true - I had forgotten how *lost* I was when first started using the
computer. Now I'm lost if can't have access to it for a few days!
!!!DAYS
mhhmmmp. You're not as addicted as I am.
Julie--
I didn't like to say hours!!! Which is the reality. I can cope if I am at
Travis Crook wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 06:50 -0500, Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can handle
this site but have I got it easy for you
Go to this
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 12:16 pm, Kirschner, Mark wrote:
Julie Sloan claimed:
But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it!
Julie
--
Um, you need to boot the computer for it to break ;-)
Maybe I never broke it or got so virus'd up I couldn't fix it myself because
I didn't
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 11:14 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 12:16 pm, Kirschner, Mark wrote:
Julie Sloan claimed:
But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it!
Julie
--
Um, you need to boot the computer for it to break ;-)
Maybe I never broke it
et wrote:
and I want to appologize for posting that to Newbie. was
meant/thought to be on the OT list
my bad
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[This E-mail was scanned for viruses]
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 12:16 pm, Kirschner, Mark wrote:
Julie Sloan claimed:
But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it!
Julie
--
Um, you need to boot the computer for it to break ;-)
Maybe I never broke it or got so virus'd up I couldn't fix it myself
Martell, Larry wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
Was it harder adapting to XP, or Linux?
It's worse coming the other way. I started on BSD unix version III running on
a DEC PDP-7 in the late 70's. For the next 26 years I worked
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
What a pain! Editing text files is particularly
irritating because my fingers operate in vi mode reflexively.
Get vim for Windows. A decent vi emulator, heck, I use it under Mandrake and
on Sun instead of vi.
I also find myself
Russ Kepler wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
What a pain! Editing text files is particularly
irritating because my fingers operate in vi mode reflexively.
Get vim for Windows. A decent vi emulator, heck, I use it under Mandrake and
on Sun instead of
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers operate
in vi mode reflexively.
I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say the same thing. :)
--
Want
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:46 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
I used to use the MKS toolkit version of vi on DOS as well as the Korn
shell and awk, grep, sed, et al. It was one of the reasons I never
learned DOS properly! vim is cool, though.
I don't think there's a 'proper' way to learn MS-DOS.
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:54 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers operate
in vi mode reflexively.
I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say the same thing. :)
As
Russ Kepler wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:54 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers operate
in vi mode reflexively.
I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 22:17 +0200, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Martell, Larry wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
Was it harder adapting to XP, or Linux?
It's worse coming the other way. I started on BSD unix version
On Tue 3/1/2005 3:31 PM Lorin Pino wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 22:17 +0200, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Martell, Larry wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
Was it harder adapting to XP, or Linux?
It's worse coming the
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 05:01 pm, Russ Kepler wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:54 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers
operate in vi mode reflexively.
I am looking forward
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 06:21 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 05:01 pm, Russ Kepler wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:54 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:21 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 05:01 pm, Russ Kepler wrote:
As long as you don't invoke the dreaded emacs you're all right with me.
(There's something wrong with an editor that hauls around an eliza in
every instance).
Ok. Would you please
But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it!
You didn't try very hard! I have broke almost every OS I have
worked with- no harm in experimenting since that is how you learn
- as long as you learn - and you have the time to set aside for
reinstalling!
I have broken most of
Russ Kepler wrote:
I don't think there's a 'proper' way to learn MS-DOS. My first conputer was
an IBM 360/65 running a timeshare simulator called RAX, heck, the first
programming test I ever took was to see if I could hold a 1401 punchboard at
arms length, so I'm a proper dinosaur.
My
et wrote:
Travis Crook wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 06:50 -0500, Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can
handle this site but have I got it easy for you
Go to
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 10:06 pm, Russ Kepler wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:21 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 05:01 pm, Russ Kepler wrote:
As long as you don't invoke the dreaded emacs you're all right with
me. (There's something wrong with an editor that hauls
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 10:59:30 +
Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 09:00 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:30 am, riccardo wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 08:19 am, Julie Sloan referred:
handy, to have entire duplicate system
~ for
On Wednesday 02 Mar 2005 18:21, SnapafunFrank wrote:
et wrote:
Travis Crook wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 06:50 -0500, Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can
handle
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 08:54 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
in vi mode reflexively.
I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say the same
thing. :)
_
your 'puter may have vimtutor' already installed.
vimtutor' . . . the tutor for VIM
best rgds
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Maybe I am being unecessarily negative about linux. But it does seem
that one has to work inordinately hard to achivee some basic functions. I
have reverted to Kmail simply because I can't get links to browser to open
from Tbird. It seems this may a Tbird
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On Monday 28 Feb 2005 11:11, SnapafunFrank wrote:
Bottom line, use the apps that work in Linux for now and stick to
configuring one preferred app at a time. You get to learn Linux and end
up with the exact app you want.
Coffee fix required me
Anne Wilson wrote:
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On Monday 28 Feb 2005 11:11, SnapafunFrank wrote:
Bottom line, use the apps that work in Linux for now and stick to
configuring one preferred app at a time. You get to learn Linux and end
up with the exact app you want.
Coffee fix
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On Monday 28 Feb 2005 17:06, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
I think it is actualy harder changing from Windows to Linux, then it is
starting out fresh with Linux. You have to learn some new ways of doing
things. If you are starting out fresh, you
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Maybe I am being unecessarily negative about linux. But it does seem
that one has to work inordinately hard to achivee some basic functions. I
have reverted to Kmail simply because I can't get links to browser to open
from Tbird. It seems this may a Tbird
On Monday 28 February 2005 07:37 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 05:32 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Maybe I am being unecessarily negative about linux. But it does
seem that one has to work inordinately hard to achivee some basic
functions. I have reverted to
On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to XP
compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
What about it?
I went from 98 to XP last summer, and learned my way around XP while I was
waiting for my
On Monday 28 February 2005 06:16 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to XP
compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
What about it?
I went from 98 to XP last summer, and
On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 20:05 -0600, Dennis Myers wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 07:37 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 05:32 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Maybe I am being unecessarily negative about linux. But it does
seem that one has to work inordinately
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to XP
compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
What about it?
I went from 98 to XP last summer, and learned my way around XP while I was
waiting
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 06:19 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
to use Kmail rather than ~
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Kmail . . . one of the Best :)
best rgds
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:39 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 06:16 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to
XP compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to
XP compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
What about it?
I went
Paul Kraus wrote:
Anyone know any good sources for information on learning to do everything in the
command line?
I'm starting a list here:
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/LinuxResources
I discovered the first item on the list just recently and think it is
pretty good -- it is not
PS: I really should have said that the first resource mentioned below is
excellent instead of pretty good -- it hit the spot for me -- ymmv.
Randy Kramer
Randy Kramer wrote:
Paul Kraus wrote:
Anyone know any good sources for information on learning to do everything in the
command line?
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