On Friday, 24. November 2006 06:58, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
The size of the 86 DVDs dropped from 4GB to 3.5GB from beta2 to rc1.
Where did the half gigabyte go?
The content of the Addon-Lang CD is not anymore included in the DVD iso.
Bye,
Steve
Jens Herden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I just checked on my system here:
$ applydeltaiso openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-i386.iso \
openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso new.iso
...
ttf-alee.noarch (bzip): applying delta
xfntkr.noarch (bzip): applying delta
iso sucessfully
Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 2006/11/23 21:33 (GMT+0100) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:
We modularized ext2
Why?
The kernel configure option for ext2 in 10.1 is:
zgrep EXT2 /proc/config.gz
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
And in 10.2:
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=m
And that's all I meant with modularize.
Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
When I installed Beta1, Beta2 and now RC1 the installer keeps indicating
that none of the packages from the non-OSS add-on CD are newer than
what's installed.
Is that actually true? If so, why are new disc images released every
time? If
rex [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Boards that use the Intel P965 chipset have another chip for PATA
support since no IDE support is included on the P965 chipset. On the
P5BD (and some other boards), this chip is a Jmicron chip.
If the Jmicron (there's a separate setting for the ICH8) is set to
Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The size of the 86 DVDs dropped from 4GB to 3.5GB from beta2 to rc1.
Where did the half gigabyte go?
The Language Addon has been removed,
Andreas
--
Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/
SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr.
Hello,
Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
The content of the Addon-Lang CD is not anymore included in the DVD
iso.
Why is this so? Why did the Language got removed? Up to the versions
beofre RC1, we had them. Do you now expect people of non-tier-1 to get a
DVD AND a CD?
Somewhere it was
On Friday 24 November 2006 10:34, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
What's the best plan here now?
I suggest removing openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso
and adding a README...
Can't you create a new delta iso which works against the version that is
on the server (and gives as a result
What's the best plan here now?
I suggest removing openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso
and adding a README...
Yes this should be done ASAP because others might start the download of the
delta too.
Maybe you could create also a new delta? Not that I am interested anymore, we
rex [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Boards that use the Intel P965 chipset have another chip for PATA
support since no IDE support is included on the P965 chipset. On the
P5BD (and some other boards), this chip is a Jmicron chip.
I just saw the following going into our kernel build:
Fri Nov 24
Hi,
I just installed RC1 fresh and observed some points at the boot screen of the
bootloader I want to share.
1. I have had a broken display when I opened the language menu in beta2, this
was fixed in RC1 :-)
2. I got a penguin running around. Nice but destructive, the painting is
destroying
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 09:34:23AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
From the system that our folks used for building the deltas :-( -
which means we really had two versions and the wrong one ended on
the server. :-(
What's the best plan here now?
I suggest removing
On Friday 24 November 2006 16:25, Robert Schiele wrote:
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 09:34:23AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
From the system that our folks used for building the deltas :-( -
which means we really had two versions and the wrong one ended on
the server. :-(
What's the best
The content of the Addon-Lang CD is not anymore included in the DVD iso.
1GB download bandwidth wasted...
No, if there are only languages on the addon now than the split makes
sense. I thought the nonfree software was on the addon too, I'm a bit
behind ;)
Volker
--
Volker Kuhlmann
I just saw, that YaST estimates Installlation time to be 45 minutes. This
seems too long (from DVD). Older versions installed within 30 minutes or
below. Installation seems faster than 45 min, however.
Wrong estimation?
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Marcel Hilzinger
Linux New Media AG
Marcel Hilzinger schrieb:
I just saw, that YaST estimates Installlation time to be 45 minutes. This
seems too long (from DVD). Older versions installed within 30 minutes or
below. Installation seems faster than 45 min, however.
Wrong estimation?
Nope, as long as you plan to have the /
* Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 24. 2006 11:23]:
I just saw, that YaST estimates Installlation time to be 45 minutes. This
seems too long (from DVD). Older versions installed within 30 minutes or
below. Installation seems faster than 45 min, however.
Wrong estimation?
Hardly.
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Jens Herden wrote:
3. I could not find a way to add boot parameter anymore. Was this removed? I
usually add a vga=0x305 because the installer is not detecting my screen.
You sure can. Never seen it missing.
4. After the installation the language menu is broken. I have
Am Freitag, 24. November 2006 11:39 schrieb Klaus Kaempf:
* Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 24. 2006 11:23]:
I just saw, that YaST estimates Installlation time to be 45 minutes. This
seems too long (from DVD). Older versions installed within 30 minutes or
below. Installation seems
Marcel Hilzinger a écrit :
Yes, but it would be better to be wrong the other way round. So saying it
takes 30 minutes and doing it within 35 minutes is better, than saying it
takes 45 minutes and it's done within 35.
certainly not.
I have an appointment in 30 minute, do I have time to
Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
When I installed Beta1, Beta2 and now RC1 the installer keeps indicating
that none of the packages from the non-OSS add-on CD are newer than
what's installed.
Is that actually true? If so, why are
* Bruce A. Mallett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20061124 04:25]:
I thought I'd try my hand at building the NetworkManager PPTP plugin but
it requires this file. The pin util. does not find it and a google
seems to indicate ppp-devel.
Yes, it is indeed part of ppp-devel.
Philipp
When adding a new installation source in YaST, I see only the following
points:
CD
DVD
Lokales Verzeichnis
Package Directory
URL angeben
However, if there is internet connection I can also choose:
SLP, FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, SMB/CIFS, NFS.
Bug or feature? It's also very annoying, that YaST
However, if there is internet connection I can also choose:
SLP, FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, SMB/CIFS, NFS.
Bug or feature? It's also very annoying, that YaST removes all internet
sources, if you start the module without internet connection.
I'd almost rate that as most annoying. Definitely a bug,
On Monday 20 November 2006 08:22, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:34, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Montag, 13. November 2006 20:53 schrieb David Mayr:
I think SUSE artists can do much better that that washed out blue
wallpaper gnome boredoom-style.
I agree.
Dňa Pi 24. November 2006 12:41 Volker Kuhlmann napísal:
However, if there is internet connection I can also choose:
SLP, FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, SMB/CIFS, NFS.
Bug or feature? It's also very annoying, that YaST removes all internet
sources, if you start the module without internet
Am Freitag, 24. November 2006 13:18 schrieb Stanislav Visnovsky:
Dňa Pi 24. November 2006 12:41 Volker Kuhlmann napísal:
However, if there is internet connection I can also choose:
SLP, FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, SMB/CIFS, NFS.
Bug or feature? It's also very annoying, that YaST removes all
Hi,
As Marcus just announed on the security mailing-list, SuSE Linux 10.2
got updated to phpMyAdmin 2.9.1.1.
In the factory tree, there is 2.9.0.2 available.
Can we expect that at least 2.9.1.1 will be in 10.2 too? Or would you
like this filed in bugzilla for tracking?
Dominique
Marcus
That's what zmd-updater says, but it turns out that zmd-daemon is actually
running:
rczmd status
Checking for ZENworks Management Daemon: running
ps ax | grep zmd
3140 ?SNsl 0:01 zmd /usr/lib/zmd/zmd.exe
I have a fresh RC1 installation.
Right after
Dominique Leuenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
As Marcus just announed on the security mailing-list, SuSE Linux 10.2
got updated to phpMyAdmin 2.9.1.1.
In the factory tree, there is 2.9.0.2 available.
Can we expect that at least 2.9.1.1 will be in 10.2 too? Or would you
like this
Andras Mantia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Friday 24 November 2006 10:34, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
What's the best plan here now?
I suggest removing openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso
and adding a README...
Can't you create a new delta iso which works against the version that
Just a proposal for 10.3, as for 10.2 it's too late anyway:
I think the installation source module should not fetch any other data then
the source name. It should just put the right info on the right place, like
editing /etc/apt/sources.list or a file in /etc/yum/yum.d.repos/
Why? With the
Am Friday 24 November 2006 14:17 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger:
Just a proposal for 10.3, as for 10.2 it's too late anyway:
I think the installation source module should not fetch any other data then
the source name. It should just put the right info on the right place, like
editing
* Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 24. 2006 14:13]:
Just a proposal for 10.3, as for 10.2 it's too late anyway:
I think the installation source module should not fetch any other data then
the source name. It should just put the right info on the right place, like
editing
I've thought a bit about how to structure - and name - the directories
for openSUSE 10.2 and like to get your feedback and suggestions for
improvement.
Goals
=
My goals with the restructuring are:
* Clear naming - no misunderstandings
* Smaller repositories for faster metadata download
*
Hi,
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've thought a bit about how to structure - and name - the directories
for openSUSE 10.2 and like to get your feedback and suggestions for
improvement.
Goals
=
My goals with the restructuring are:
* Clear naming - no misunderstandings
Reply on 24-11-2006 16:13:32
D(Bòa Pi 24. November 2006 13:40 Dominique Leuenberger napísal:
Reply on 24-11-2006 14:38:34
That's what zmd-updater says, but it turns out that zmd-daemon is
actually
running:
rczmd status
Checking for ZENworks Management Daemon:
Hi,
I've just finished a new document about YaST Remote Logging in Installation.
It uses another computer with a configured NFS server to store
installation logs on it to simplify getting YaST logs, for debugging
falling installation (e.g., SEGFAULTs) and/or to minimize memory
requirements
On Friday 24 November 2006 14:40, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
I have seen something similiar (not exactly, as I didn't go for RC1
I have killed zmd.exe (BTW why doesn't rczmd stop work?) and started it
again; now it works.
O zi buna!
:-) Thanks, you too
Am Friday 24 November 2006 15:03 schrieb Eberhard Moenkeberg:
Hi,
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've thought a bit about how to structure - and name - the directories
for openSUSE 10.2 and like to get your feedback and suggestions for
improvement.
Goals
=
My
On Friday 24 November 2006 14:53, Adrian Schröter wrote:
Am Friday 24 November 2006 15:03 schrieb Eberhard Moenkeberg:
Hi,
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've thought a bit about how to structure - and name - the directories
for openSUSE 10.2 and like to get your feedback
Lukas Ocilka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
I've just finished a new document about YaST Remote Logging in Installation.
Cool - could you reference it from the bug reporting pages, please?
Andreas
--
Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH,
Am I doing something wrong or is this a known problem in 10.2 (RC1)? It
was also in Beta 2 but I didn't pay too much attention to it because I
wasn't trying out the multimedia features.
While I have the sound card configured correctly and I do get sound on
boot and shutdown, I have no sound
On Friday 24 November 2006 00:42, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
...
Please report this in bugzilla - not sure whether we can handle this
at this point of time but let's at least try...
That bug has been in Bugzilla for quite a while already.
In fact, as of this morning's batch (U.S. West Coast time)
Hi,
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Hugo Costelha wrote:
It seems wuite intuitive to me. I also prefer longer names, if they are
easier
to remember and much easier to get some sense out of them, which I think is
the case here.
It does not take longer time to get a sense for a shorter word.
But
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
It does not take longer time to get a sense for a shorter word.
But directory listings have a chance to be readable and submitting URLs
has a chance not to get broken if the path names are short.
the length of
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Hugo Costelha wrote:
It seems wuite intuitive to me. I also prefer longer names, if they are
easier
to remember and much easier to get some sense out of them, which I think is
the case here.
It does not
Michael and myself discussed this a bit further and asked our build
experts to experiment a bit - and those first experiments are positive
enough that I'm confident to tell you about them ;-).
We're planning to put all languages that have according to the
translation statistics page
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
Reply on 24-11-2006 17:40:53
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
/pub/opensuse/10.2 would be enough. Of course 10.2 is a distribution
and
repeating the opensuse does not help understanding the structure. I
also
On Friday 24 November 2006 15:15, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Hugo Costelha wrote:
It seems wuite intuitive to me. I also prefer longer names, if they are
easier to remember and much easier to get some sense out of them, which I
think is the case here.
It does
Am Friday 24 November 2006 16:42 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger:
Reply on 24-11-2006 17:40:53
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
/pub/opensuse/10.2 would be enough. Of course 10.2 is a distribution
and
repeating the opensuse does not help understanding the structure. I
Reply on 24-11-2006 18:00:45
Am Friday 24 November 2006 16:42 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger:
Reply on 24-11-2006 17:40:53
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
/pub/opensuse/10.2 would be enough. Of course 10.2 is a
distribution
and
repeating the opensuse
Am Freitag, 24. November 2006 14:17 schrieb Klaus Kaempf:
* Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 24. 2006 14:13]:
Just a proposal for 10.3, as for 10.2 it's too late anyway:
I think the installation source module should not fetch any other data
then the source name. It should just put
Am Freitag, 24. November 2006 16:09 schrieb Basil Chupin:
Am I doing something wrong or is this a known problem in 10.2 (RC1)? It
was also in Beta 2 but I didn't pay too much attention to it because I
wasn't trying out the multimedia features.
While I have the sound card configured correctly
* Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 24. 2006 17:10]:
But why 90% of all package managers work the other way? With apt, smart, yum
adding a source needs no internet connection and it's a matter of a second.
Metadata is only loaded, when you want to install something. I don't see,
Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andreas,
On Friday 24 November 2006 03:30, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
When I installed Beta1, Beta2 and now RC1 the installer keeps
indicating that none of
Fredag 24 november 2006 16:41 skrev Andreas Jaeger:
We're planning to put all languages that have according to the
translation statistics page (http://i18n.opensuse.org/stats/index.php)
more than 98 % translated to the media.
We're working on the details on how exactly to do this - just DVD
Andreas,
On Friday 24 November 2006 09:34, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
...
The DVD contains the non-OSS CD already. So, you have the packages
on *both* media.
OK. I didn't realize that.
...
Andreas
Thanks.
Randall Schulz
Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Fredag 24 november 2006 16:41 skrev Andreas Jaeger:
We're planning to put all languages that have according to the
translation statistics page (http://i18n.opensuse.org/stats/index.php)
more than 98 % translated to the media.
We're working on the
2006/11/24, Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Fredag 24 november 2006 16:41 skrev Andreas Jaeger:
We're planning to put all languages that have according to the
translation statistics page (http://i18n.opensuse.org/stats/index.php)
more than 98 % translated to the media.
We're working on
Ain Vagula [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When talking about yast and lcn translations, then sorry - how much
space these will take?
The biggest yast-translation package is about 500 KB, usually these
are about 200 KB.
This time, no need to worry. The YaST translations are on the media,
and many
2006/11/24, Karl Eichwalder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Ain Vagula [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When talking about yast and lcn translations, then sorry - how much
space these will take?
The biggest yast-translation package is about 500 KB, usually these
are about 200 KB.
This time, no need to worry.
Ain Vagula [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When talking about yast and lcn translations, then sorry - how much
space these will take?
Language support for a language means:
* YaST and lcn translations
* OpenOffice.org translations
* translations of various packages, e.g. koffice-i18n packages
*
2006/11/24, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Ain Vagula [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When talking about yast and lcn translations, then sorry - how much
space these will take?
Language support for a language means:
* YaST and lcn translations
* OpenOffice.org translations
* translations of
2006/11/24, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Ain Vagula [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks for response, but I'd like to remind for future, that
translation teams will get most of feedback from released version
users. In small communities are not so much people using factory. So
for
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 04:58:45PM +0100, Adrian Schroeter wrote:
you need to keep in mind that only a few users type these names at all.
I think this depends on whether you talk about iso images or repositories.
Your statement is most likely correct for the images but the repositories are
often
Hi,
What was the reason of dropping any kind of UPS monitoring tool from
SUSE? IIRC nut (http://www.networkupstools.org/) was included in
earlier releases, but I cannot find in 10.2. I'm not sure about 10.1,
if it had or not.
Andras
--
Quanta Plus developer - http://quanta.kdewebdev.org
K
I want to congratulate the openSUSE 10.2 developpers,
because I'm on the way of installing the RC1 on a very low
end machine
http://fr.opensuse.org/Utilisateur:Jdd/alb/La_Mouette
on this computer I could install 10.0 but not 10.1. The
install, there, stopped at the partitionning part. This
Im not sure i would call it a feature, let even alone enter it into
bugzilla..
With B2, selecting minimal, text only PLUS XEN
== kernel-xen got selected and installed ==
However, the grub-menu was not extended.
re-installing kernel-xen (Uvh) did no good.
while forcing kernel-xen from yast did
Did anybody notice that the default timeout of eight seconds disapeared
from grub?
I had to add that line over three times now
After booting it just waits in the grub menu.
Hans
--
pgp-id: 926EBB12
pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12
Registered linux user:
Hi all,
just went through the xml file intended for cloning a system.
One thing struck me.
Before the change from selections=threads, i had a simple selection,
with a couple of add-ons.
Now i get a thread with dozens add-ons.
Intended, or side-effect?
Hans.
--
pgp-id: 926EBB12
Perhaps i should enter it as a requested enhancement ;-)
When wanting a bare minimal system, (by selecting text-mode only)
i expect a real-minimum, however
I find a lot of packages installed, which might be very nice and
helpfull, but i did not select them. they are in three catagories:
a)
Hans Witvliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Im not sure i would call it a feature, let even alone enter it into
bugzilla..
With B2, selecting minimal, text only PLUS XEN
== kernel-xen got selected and installed ==
However, the grub-menu was not extended.
There was a bug that was marked as
Hans Witvliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did anybody notice that the default timeout of eight seconds disapeared
from grub?
I had to add that line over three times now
After booting it just waits in the grub menu.
That was beta2 only AFAIK,
Andreas
--
Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL
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