Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Butch Black
Hi, I have a Pentax dedicated vivitar flash with TTL capabilities. Does the Z-1P allow TTL with K and M series lenses? I tried a quick test last night with a K 35/3.5 and would get the green auto exposure OK light on the flash to come on only up to F 5.6 even though I was 6 ft away from the

RE: New Scanner

2003-06-06 Thread gfen
On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Butch Black wrote: A friend of mine gave me some MF and LF scans done on an Epson 2450. The files were 20-30MB PSD files (Photoshop) I was amazed at the quality. It's still not ideal for 35mm although it may compare favorably with the S20. All this talk finally inspired me

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Joe Wilensky
It's always problematic to test TTL flash with no film in the camera. Since the sensor is measuring light reflected off the film, it's measuring what would seem to be a reduced amount of light reflecting off the black pressure plate instead. I don't think there's any problem using TTL flash

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Gary L. Murphy
Joe Wilensky wrote: It's always problematic to test TTL flash with no film in the camera. Since the sensor is measuring light reflected off the film, it's measuring what would seem to be a reduced amount of light reflecting off the black pressure plate instead. I may be wrong but I do not

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Joe Wilensky
TTL is done through off-the-film metering, albeit as a separate system from the Z-1p (and the Z1, SF1/SF1n, Super Program) camera's regular light metering system. The LX is the only Pentax camera to incorporate both TTL metering as well as off-the-film light metering at the time of exposure

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may be wrong but I do not recall the Pz-1p having OTF metering That's totally different from TTL TTL metering is done off the film. There's a sensor in the mirror box that points back toward the film plane (on the PZ-1p it's on the right side of

Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Anthony Farr
IMHO the advances in TTL metering are attempts to become as good as quality hand-held meters. It's also MHO that multi segment metering calculates an xposure that is correct most of the time but not every time, and the photographer isn't likely to know just what skew the meter's interpretive

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Gary L. Murphy
Mark Roberts wrote: TTL metering is done off the film. There's a sensor in the mirror box that points back toward the film plane (on the PZ-1p it's on the right side of the mirror box as you look in without a lens mounted). Brain fart. :-) Later, Gary

Re: Its that time again for the false Paypal emails!

2003-06-06 Thread Mr. Kane
The incorrect copyright date at the bottom of the letter is another proof that it is not quite right . . . Alan Abbott wrote: The 'Login button does NOT go to Paypal but: http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/boyz.php. Alan The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it

Re: Its that time again for the false Paypal emails!

2003-06-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Its that time again for the false Paypal emails! I get false ebay emails as well. They usually ask for credit card numbers, name and address. I just discard them. Thanks for the warning. I got one of those on my hotmail account,

Re: First 6x7 lessons learned

2003-06-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Subject: Re: First 6x7 lessons learned Pentax 6x7 f22 @ 1/30th. Hand held of course. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1069827 Nice panning technique. Yer very good. William Robb

Re: *ist

2003-06-06 Thread William Robb
I may be bigger than you as well, which would make the camera a bit harder to operate cleanly. I have also, so far, eschewed the new style smaller spectacles in favour of my older semi aviation style frames. I think it will do well in the market segment it is aimed at though. I don't see the lack

Re: New Scanner

2003-06-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: New Scanner Could you guys please try a 4X5 tranny scan at max resolution ( which I assume is 3200 ppi) and report the scan time to me? With the 2450 (2400 ppi) it takes about 20 minutes which is quite annoying John,

Re: *ist

2003-06-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: James Fellows Subject: Re: *ist How does it's feel or construction compare to the ZX/MZ series? For me, about the same, based on a very short look at the camera, mostly spent fumbling the (in my opinion only) too small control interface. My reference is the

Re: Re:[2] First 6x7 lessons learned

2003-06-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - Subject: Re:[2] First 6x7 lessons learned I tried photographing a moving steam locomotive once. The slow shutter time caused the wheels to look out of round. It takes the 6x7 shutter 1/30 of a second to transverse the entire frame, so fast action shots are

Re: New Scanner

2003-06-06 Thread Mat Maessen
Is the negative in contact with glass at all when doing a transparency scan on the 2450? If so, any issues w/ newton rings, and keeping the glass clean? -Mat J. C. O'Connell wrote: Could you guys please try a 4X5 tranny scan at max resolution ( which I assume is 3200 ppi) and report the scan

Re: Re:[2] First 6x7 lessons learned

2003-06-06 Thread brooksdj
- Original Message -Penned by WW Subject: Re:[2] First 6x7 lessons learned Paul seems to have a good workaround (panning), and I don't really know if the slow shutter speed will be an issue with what you are doing. It doesn't matter what

Re: *ist in stock

2003-06-06 Thread Butch Black
Daniel Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist in stock From: Daniel Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:18:20 -0800 What on earth is wrong with silver? Wed, 31 Dec 1969??? ;-) Let's do the time warp again BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation

RE: 31Dec1969 (was: *ist in stock)

2003-06-06 Thread Thomas Haller
Hey Butch, To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist in stock From: Daniel Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:18:20 -0800 What on earth is wrong with silver? Wed, 31 Dec 1969??? ;-) Let's do the time warp again Looks like a Mac user with the date reset problem! :-) - THaller

Re: New Scanner

2003-06-06 Thread brooksdj
Is the negative in contact with glass at all when doing a transparency scan on the 2450? If so, any issues w/ newton rings, and keeping the glass clean? -Mat Mat. The 2450,and i assume the 3200, have plastic holders for 35mm,120,mounted slides

Re: New Scanner

2003-06-06 Thread Bill Owens
My new 3200 is used with a PC with 800Mz processor, 382Mb RAM and USB 2.0. I just scanned a 6x6 tranny at 3200 and the times were; 2:31 for scanning, 0:27 for processing for a total time of 2:58. The film is not in contact with the scanner glass at any time. Bill - Original Message -

Joe's Homemade Lens Tests

2003-06-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
I wanted to do some sharpness tests on my Tokina and Arsat lenses (see lens list below). While I was at it, I decided to compare some other lenses as well. Some of the results are interesting enough to share. Here's what I did: Subject is the front of the old (1870) church in Corrales, New

Mail-Archive.com again

2003-06-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
Mail-Archive.com is back up today, after its latest protracted vacation. It appears that all messages between April 6 and June 5 have been lost. This means that I don't know the reaction (flames??) to my complaint about the 2004 PUG themes. Can anyone summarize the list's reaction for me? Will

Re: OT: Bayer image example

2003-06-06 Thread Caveman
Wouldn't this be the correct way to print/display the digital image before starting to do comparisons with film ? If you process it with interpolation and god knows what other algorithms, then how can you jump out the gun with conclusions like digital is smoother and has less grain etc. If I

Re: Joe's Homemade Lens Tests

2003-06-06 Thread Herb Chong
you weren't able to account for sample to sample variation, which may be larger than the differences you saw. that's the trouble with these. very few people have the access to the number of different samples of the same lens, let alone have the inclination and patience to do the tests. Herb...

Re: Its that time again for the false Paypal emails!

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Alan Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'Login button does NOT go to Paypal but: http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/boyz.php. Just for future reference: In web URL's, anything to the LEFT of an @ (but after the http://;) is ignored by the browser. So the above URL is simply

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Mark Roberts a écrit: ... TTL metering is done off the film. There's a sensor in the mirror box that points back toward the film plane (on the PZ-1p it's on the right side of the mirror box as you look in without a lens mounted). Yes, and on the MZ-S the sensor is under the mirror, before the AF

Re: Mail-Archive.com again

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mail-Archive.com is back up today, after its latest protracted vacation. It appears that all messages between April 6 and June 5 have been lost. This means that I don't know the reaction (flames??) to my complaint about the 2004 PUG themes. Can anyone

Re: OT: Bayer image example

2003-06-06 Thread Herb Chong
if the end image is the same, what is the point? if one image is better, does it matter how? Herb - Original Message - From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:04 Subject: Re: OT: Bayer image example Wouldn't this be the correct way

Re: OT: Bayer image example

2003-06-06 Thread Caveman
Herb Chong wrote: if one image is better, does it matter how? Yes it does, it's a question of comparison/test methods. cheers, caveman

Re: Its that time again for the false Paypal emails!

2003-06-06 Thread Keith Whaley
Sam Spade is a very good site. Thanks, Mark. I've put it in my easily reached place of honor, in the menu bar! keith whaley Mark Roberts wrote: Alan Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'Login button does NOT go to Paypal but: http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/boyz.php. Just for future

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: TTL metering is done off the film. There's a sensor in the mirror box that points back toward the film plane (on the PZ-1p it's on the right side of the mirror box as you look in without a lens mounted). Brain fart. :-) Hey, for

Re: Bayer image example

2003-06-06 Thread T Rittenhouse
Very interesting... Now, when they say a digicam is 6 megapixel, do they mean 6 million blue-green-green-red pixels (24 million sensor pixels), or do they mean 1.5 million blue-green-green-red pixels (6 million sensor pixels)? Now, on the Foveon, when they say 3 megapixels, do they mean 3

Re: Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Artur Ledchowski
Uytkownik Nick Zentena [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: But that\'s not an open aperture M42 lens I don\'t think. Don\'t you have to meter stopped down? Nope, you're right. It's a stopped down aperture lens - I missed the word open. OTOH, how can one use automatic diaphragm of an m42 lens on any

Re: Pentax Macro/pix for the web question

2003-06-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
What about... get a polarazing filter, place it on the scanner, put the diamond on it and scan at a high res. No camera needed. I just did this with a cloisonne ladybug pin I listed on ebay.. It did pretty well, and I actually didnt do it at high res. I barely have time to glance at the list

Re: New Scanner

2003-06-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
You are correct about the carrier holding the neg above the glass. Depending on the size of the negative, you can get some sag in the middle. I am scanning 67 negs and find that strips do better than single negs because the strip helps hold the neg more evenly. I would guess that 4X5 would have

Re: Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Artur Ledchowski
Uytkownik Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: IMHO the advances in TTL metering are attempts to become as good as quality hand-held meters. Of course It\'s also MHO that multi segment metering calculates an xposure that is correct most of the time but not every time, and the photographer

Re: Lens Tests

2003-06-06 Thread RDJ92807
My extensive tests on the Tokina 28-80 confirm similar findings.very sharp thru the entire range, often as good or better than fixed lenses. Robert James In a message dated 6/5/03 9:13:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Tokina 28-80 is clearly a winner. - Prime lenses do not

Re: Bayer image example

2003-06-06 Thread Herb Chong
all digital camera specs except for the Foveon based ones count individual sensing elements as a pixel. it carries almost all of the same detail information as if they were pure luminance sensors. the eye is pretty insensitive to color detail and there are many, many experiments that verify

Re: New Scanner

2003-06-06 Thread Brendan
Yes it was to you Dave :D --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bring a few 35mm slides over, we can compare. Not sure Brendan,was this directed at moi,or some one else.If its moi i have a few i can bring over. Dave

RE: Digital vs. film cave test

2003-06-06 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not pertinent. It's pertinent for me. When the test being performed has the resolution of the projector lens, good or bad, as a common factor, so long as you don't change the lens between tests, it can be ignored,

RE: MX Batteries: MS76 vs. DL-1 (vs. ?)

2003-06-06 Thread Peter Alling
If you're in the US and can stomach Wall Mart Eveready 357, 1/2 the price of the MS76 and still Silver oxide. At 01:30 PM 6/2/03 -0700, you wrote: Hmm, A76? Wouldn't that be an alkaline? Wouldn't that have the dreaded slow voltage drop discharge characteristic? I would have thought (from what I

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Alan Chan
If I am correct, the TTL flash metering of Z-1p can do centre-weighted only (unlike Nikon where you can choose whatever metering you liked for TTL flash), similar to Super A/Program. The TTL flash sensor is located on the side of the mirror box. However, I could be wrong. The manual doesn't

RE: MX Batteries: MS76 vs. DL-1 (vs. ?)

2003-06-06 Thread Thomas Haller
Hello Peter! If you're in the US and can stomach Wall Mart Eveready 357, 1/2 the price of the MS76 and still Silver oxide. Thanks Peter, that sounds useful! Still 1.5V each and the proper size I imagine, or you wouldn't be recommending them, I presume... What was the store you mentioned,

Re: OT: The problems of E.T. (was Re: pentax smc 15mm A turned into Star Trek Thread)

2003-06-06 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
I've put it on another, more appropriate list :-) Maris Peter Alling wrote: I'd love to see the methodology. (And yes I'm sure Frank will see a dirty joke here as well, just to combine another thread). At 04:19 AM 6/3/03 -0500, you wrote: I have studied this matter thoroughly while

Re: Bayer image example

2003-06-06 Thread Brendan
From the tests it out resolves the D60, but the real problem is that it produces small file sizes. DPreview said that ressing up a bit you can get sharper prints with more detail than most 5 mp cams, I believe them but untill they can pull a 6 mp chip out of the rabbit hat a 6 mp cam will still

Re: Digital vs. film cave test

2003-06-06 Thread Caveman
tom wrote: If his point was that digital projection is inferior, fine, I don't think anyone would argue that an XGA resolution projector is going to beat any slide projector. You got it right. The cave thing was that before starting any kind of X vs. Y comparison, you have to define the purpose

Re: What about Takumar 1:1.9/85

2003-06-06 Thread Fred
A question for you screwmount guys. What do you think about the Super Takumar 1:1.9/85? I have an opportunity to buy one and wonder if and how much I should pay for it. Is it worth the hassle to use it on a K-mount? It's not the best 85mm lens there is, but if the price is right... The bokeh

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Gary L. Murphy
Mark Roberts wrote: Hey, for years I didn't know how TTL flash worked at all. I posted some questions on rec.photo.equipment.35mm and got several detailed answers... *all* of which covered everything *except* the fact that the camera is metering off the film during the exposure! And, of course,

*ist D revisited

2003-06-06 Thread Arnold Stark
Thanks to a good Pentax contact and to a very kind invitation I was today able to inspect a pre-production *ist D which has just arrived in Germany. This pre-productioncamera body is believed to be not a prototype anymore but equivalent to the final model except for some last software

Re: What about Takumar 1:1.9/85

2003-06-06 Thread Caveman
Fred wrote: I do have some comparative 85mm shots (including the Super Takumar 85/1.9) at - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/85compar/ Even being one of the old f**ts that know those images for quite a while, I still can't refrain to LOL each time when I get to view the 85/2.2 Soft one in the

RE: Digital vs. film cave test

2003-06-06 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Caveman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You got it right. The cave thing was that before starting any kind of X vs. Y comparison, you have to define the purpose for which you want to use them, and please make it a valid one. The kind of testing we see now on

Re: Digital vs. film cave test

2003-06-06 Thread Caveman
I wanted them to be the exact output of the respective cameras, without further processing or compression artifacts. I somehow hoped that I will see some differences, in the color rendition and local contrast dept., but no luck, the projector was a very good equalizer. No notable differences

RE: New Scanner

2003-06-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
no, the holder keeps the 4X5 neg off the glass but I found that thin negs sagged a little and did cause newton rings. I solved the problem by taping 4 quarters to the bottom of the neg holder to hold neg slightly higher off glass. Still get sharp results as the scanners optical system has plenty

Re[2]: waiting for the MZ-5n/3 successor

2003-06-06 Thread fastpat
I must agree with everything Alin wrote. It was the MZ-5 (and 3 months later the 5n) that finally tempted me away from my long-serving MX. Four years later, the MZ-S seemed the ultimate expression of the 5n concept, so I bought it and have been very happy with it. The menu and control wheels

Re: Pentax bashing (was Re: another 31 Limited question)

2003-06-06 Thread Peter Alling
I think what you really want is Louisiana Stupid Sauce, at least that's it's name. Pure Capsaicin with just enough vinegar to keep it liquid and red die for coloring. Pure heat no flavor, (Unless you consider acetic acid flavor). At 10:25 AM 6/2/03 -0400, you wrote: Rob Wasabi eating contest.

*ist In Stock at BH

2003-06-06 Thread Peter Jansen
Just got an e-mail from BH (in New York, NY) that the *ist is in stock. FYI. Peter __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-06 Thread Christian Skofteland
A few things regarding the not so good news: - In aperture priority mode, with a K-mount lens not in A position, the camera chooses the shutter speed as if the lens was set at open aperture. And really, the aperture stays open during exposure, no matter what aperture is set on the lens, as

Re: Pentax bashing (was Re: another 31 Limited question)

2003-06-06 Thread Peter Alling
At 05:04 PM 6/5/03 -0400, you wrote: I think what you really want is Louisiana Stupid Sauce, at least that's ^^ it's name. Pure Capsaicin with just enough vinegar to keep it liquid and ^ This should read ...at least that's

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-06 Thread Brendan
They better just put the simulator back in the camera and make it work correctly, we would want DOF preview AT ANY TIME like we are used to. That and metering AT ANY TIME to. --- Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to a good Pentax contact and to a very kind invitation I was today

Re: Digital vs. film cave test

2003-06-06 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
What do you need, JCO to wander into this to know you're in the Twilight Zone? You've got folks who have an agenda to prove something, and don't care how they do it. So stop confusing things with facts. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... he went to some effort to use files from dslrs that are

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-06 Thread Caveman
Brendan wrote: They better just put the simulator back in the camera and make it work correctly, we would want DOF preview AT ANY TIME like we are used to. That and metering AT ANY TIME to. C'mon Brendan. They are now closer to that great camera Nikon F80 and you complain ? cheers, caveman

Re: *ist

2003-06-06 Thread Harold Owen
The should come out with smaller lenses for it, the one I saw looked ridiculous on the Asterist. William Robb I have been trying a number of secondhand F FA lenses on the camera basically to check the function of the lenses before the guarantees on the individual lenses expire. So far I

Re: *ist in stock

2003-06-06 Thread Harold Owen
But, how is the metering system activated? Isn't it by pressing the shutter button? And it stays on for 10 seconds. Half pressing the shutter release button will activate the metering system, LCD display etc, or alternatively you can press the AV button adjacent to the shutter release

Re: Pentax bashing (was Re: another 31 Limited question)

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:04 PM 6/5/03 -0400, you wrote: I think what you really want is Louisiana Stupid Sauce, at least that's ^^ it's name. Pure Capsaicin with just enough vinegar to keep it liquid and

Re: Its that time again for the false Paypal emails!

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam Spade is a very good site. Thanks, Mark. I've put it in my easily reached place of honor, in the menu bar! Samspade.org rocks! Try downloading their free software, though (http://samspade.org/ssw/). Even better (and much faster) than the web page. --

OT: He came back...

2003-06-06 Thread Cotty
...and this time I was ready and waiting for him... http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/photoessays/owl.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk

Re: Digital vs. film cave test

2003-06-06 Thread KT Takeshita
On 03.6.5 5:33 PM, Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So stop confusing things with facts. Here you go again. Stop confusing things with something you know nothing about. What is the point of you suddenly coming into this without anything useful to contribute? Be specific as others do,

RE: Digital vs. film cave test

2003-06-06 Thread Altaf Shaikh
I believe the point was humor. -Original Message- From: KT Takeshita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 6:13 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: Re: Digital vs. film cave test On 03.6.5 5:33 PM, Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So stop confusing things with

RE: He came back...

2003-06-06 Thread Len Paris
Very nice, indeed. Len --- -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 5:07 PM To: Pentax List Subject: OT: He came back... ...and this time I was ready and waiting for him... http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/photoessays/owl.html

Re: Digital vs. film cave test

2003-06-06 Thread Caveman
KT Takeshita wrote: On 03.6.5 5:33 PM, Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] What is the point of you suddenly coming into this without anything useful to contribute? He's just trolling, as usual. Brucey, you're soo predictable Why don't you make some effort to surprise me ?

RE: He came back...

2003-06-06 Thread Thomas Haller
Nice shots Cotty, Looks like he heard the mirror going up on the first shot! :-) - THaller

Re: First 6x7 lessons learned

2003-06-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, I was panning. I was shooting this car for an enthusiast magazine, so I didn't mind burning some film. The profile pan is one of the standard shots that I do on almost every car shoot. In this case, the car was moving at about 30 mph. I had the driver go back and forth following the same path

Re: First 6x7 lessons learned

2003-06-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thank you. I think a heavy camera and lens are actually an advantage when panning. The momentum of the mass contributes to the smoothness of the swing. Paul William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Subject: Re: First 6x7 lessons learned Pentax 6x7 f22 @ 1/30th. Hand

Re: Bayer image example

2003-06-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 5 Jun 2003 at 13:07, T Rittenhouse wrote: Very interesting... Now, when they say a digicam is 6 megapixel, do they mean 6 million blue-green-green-red pixels (24 million sensor pixels), or do they mean 1.5 million blue-green-green-red pixels (6 million sensor pixels)? Indeed it is

Re: OT: He came back...

2003-06-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Wow! Great shots. I'm going to save them. Paul Cotty wrote: ...and this time I was ready and waiting for him... http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/photoessays/owl.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps

Re: Bayer image example

2003-06-06 Thread Rob Studdert
That should read: Obviously though the majority of the lumimance component is derived from the green channel given that there are 2 pixels for every one of red and blue. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: *ist in stock

2003-06-06 Thread Daniel Liu
Ohhh dear, powerout resets the computer clock all the time, i need to get a new battery, but i'm too lazy. Still though, i personally like silver. Besides, a variety of colors is probably more expensive for them to make. Apple had to nix the multi-colored imacs partly because of poor sales on

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 5 Jun 2003 at 22:34, Arnold Stark wrote: Let's hope (never stop hoping) that the compatibilty issue will be bettered in a software update or in an updated *ist D or in the successor of the *ist D - this could be one advatage of the short production cycles of the digital age. Thanks for

Re: *ist in stock

2003-06-06 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 5, 2003 07:08 pm, Daniel Liu wrote: Oh, the days of metal cameras with fake leather are over, aren't they? But i'm sure some brave soul will try painting theirs. http://www.hartblei.com/products/cameras/trim-finish.htm Now that's a company that believes in choice.

Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 5, 2003 01:11 pm, Artur Ledchowski wrote: Nope, you're right. It's a stopped down aperture lens - I missed the word open. OTOH, how can one use automatic diaphragm of an m42 lens on any K-mount body? I haven't heard of any adapter that allows such operation. Is there any? Regards

Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Daniel Liu
If you ask me, they're probably working on a more advanced version of the *ist, something that more resembles the 5n. After all, why wouldn't they? Seems like a lot (not all) of the problems you guys have described can be solved with a software fix, like the metering with older lenses.

Re: OT: 2 articles from the washington post

2003-06-06 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 5, 2003 07:44 am, Herb Chong wrote: oops, i meant filtering and interpolating. Herb... - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 07:33 Subject: Re: OT: 2 articles from the washington post it doesn't

Re: *ist

2003-06-06 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 5, 2003 05:48 pm, Harold Owen wrote: Pentax will have to release quality FAJ lenses for the *ist D rather than the 'economy' type lenses supplied for the *ist SLR. Why would the *ist digital need better lenses then the *ist film? I'm guessing they're filtering the lenses on

Re: What about Takumar 1:1.9/85

2003-06-06 Thread Daniel Liu
Haha, that is pretty neat. Does anyone know how much one of those things costs nowadays? Or where i can get one once i win the lottery? --Daniel Liu The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face. On Thursday, Jun 5, 2003, at 13:36

Re: Its that time again for the false Paypal emails!

2003-06-06 Thread Keith Whaley
Awww, I thought that might be really something, but it's all Windows. Sighhh. keith Mark Roberts wrote: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam Spade is a very good site. Thanks, Mark. I've put it in my easily reached place of honor, in the menu bar! Samspade.org rocks! Try

Re: He came back...

2003-06-06 Thread T Rittenhouse
That first shot is super. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: OT: He came back... ...and this time I was ready and waiting for him...

Re: OT: He came back...

2003-06-06 Thread Keith Whaley
Those are beauties, Cotty! What a well-done task! keith Cotty wrote: ...and this time I was ready and waiting for him... http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/photoessays/owl.html Cheers, Cotty

Pro Cameras

2003-06-06 Thread Nick Zentena
CityTV showed one of it's Naked in the House episodes this week. It's an invitation only competition. The photographer gets 30 minutes with a naked model and one roll of film. I've yet to see a Nikon or a Canon. I've seen Pentax,Mamiya,Hasselblad, lots of Texas Leicas, something that

Re: On the beach with Bob

2003-06-06 Thread T Rittenhouse
I need to go for one of those walks. Been a long time. However, it would take all summer to get back in shape to do it. Enjoy yourself, Bob. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: Pro Cameras

2003-06-06 Thread Brendan
Those guys are the BIG boys from all over Canada and the States, and Medium format only or larger, no dinky 35mm amateurs there. --- Nick Zentena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CityTV showed one of it's Naked in the House episodes this week. It's an invitation only competition. The

Re: Digital vs. film cave test

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Nick Zentena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On June 5, 2003 07:53 pm, Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Of course you didn't. That's why you didn't understand that the Valentin's original post was a spoof test. Projecting images with a high resolution projector, then a low resolution projector and then

smc P FA-J

2003-06-06 Thread collinb
I see the lenses are on the US site. Interestingly, all (as far as I have looked) smc is all lower case now. Must be inferior to old SMC lenses. ;( Collin

Re: Bayer image example

2003-06-06 Thread Keith Whaley
Oh thank you! I thought I'd had too much Glen Garioch! g keith Rob Studdert wrote: That should read: Obviously though the majority of the lumimance component is derived from the green channel given that there are 2 pixels for every one of red and blue. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE

Last friday on the mountain

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
I've just started sorting through my slides from last weekend at Grandfather Mountain (and I just found one more roll that I have to get processed tomorrow), but this one kinda stood out. It's from friday night when I was camping out on Attic Window Peak. MZ-S, SMC-A 20/2.8, Kodak E100SW, 2-stop

Re: smc P FA-J

2003-06-06 Thread Brendan
LMAO --- collinb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see the lenses are on the US site. Interestingly, all (as far as I have looked) smc is all lower case now. Must be inferior to old SMC lenses. ;( Collin __ Post your free

Re: *ist

2003-06-06 Thread Caveman
Nick Zentena wrote: Has Pentax ever made a lens with lower resolution then any current digital sensor can handle? The worst Pentax lens ever made likely exceeds the best current digital sensor. Don't underestimate digital. It's still in its infancy stage. In 5 years we'll laugh at the

Re: *ist Position

2003-06-06 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Peter Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *ist Position Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Check the Pentax Canada website. They have the *ist listed as a novice/intermediate SLR, which is the same as the MZ-6 MZ-7. The MZ-5n is listed as intermediate the MZ-S is listed as pro. In

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
I think he gets everything that Tom dropped and sent back. Seriously Alan, you do seem to be a magnet for problems. I have purchased 3 ZX-10's, 2 PZ-1p's, 2 MZ-S's, F17-28 fisheye, FA 20/2.8, FA *24/2, FA 28/2.8, FA 35/2, FA 50/1.7, FA *85/1.4, FA 100/2.8 macro, FA 135/2.8, FA *200/2.8 and A

Re: *ist D revisited

2003-06-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Alan, I'm very inclined to agree with that. I suspect we could be seeing the beginning of the end of Pre-A lenses. Fortunately for me, all my lenses are A or newer. Bruce Friday, June 6, 2003, 12:04:40 AM, you wrote: AC If an expensive model like *ist D doesn't support pre-A lenses, there

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