Re: OT - decisions, decisions ... (photo humor)

2012-11-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Igor, it is totally a good thing that I did not drink any tea or coffee at the moment I opened the picture... Boy I had a good laugh... On 11/18/2012 9:52 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I thought you might enjoy this difficulty of choice: http://www.gexxxdesign.ru/pictures/canon2.jpg or for large

OT - decisions, decisions ... (photo humor)

2012-11-18 Thread Igor Roshchin
I thought you might enjoy this difficulty of choice: http://www.gexxxdesign.ru/pictures/canon2.jpg or for large size: http://www.gexxxdesign.ru/pictures/canon3.jpg It says: (in Russian) I don't know what to choose Each lens has an adjective, which follows the pattern: a bit too _-ish

RE: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-05 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
http://www.rpphoto.com/images/howto/Anna%20and%20Turbo.jpg The battery, no the girl. She has mad eyes. -- Cheers, Cotty Nahh, she is just crazy about that big gun. Just admit it Cotty, you really want one of these next, the girl not the gun ;-). Or maybe both. Antti-Pekka

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-05 Thread Cotty
On 05/11/07, Antti-Pekka Virjonen, discombobulated, unleashed: Just admit it Cotty, you really want one of these next, the girl not the gun ;-). Or maybe both. Hey I'll take what i can get! Seriously, I'm done with buying kit for now. I just won a K50 1.4 and that completes my purchases for

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Nothing really wide in that lineup though. Not at least in that format. Cotty wrote: On 05/11/07, Antti-Pekka Virjonen, discombobulated, unleashed: Just admit it Cotty, you really want one of these next, the girl not the gun ;-). Or maybe both. Hey I'll take what i can get!

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 5, 2007, at 6:56 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Cotty wrote: On 05/11/07, Antti-Pekka Virjonen, discombobulated, unleashed: Just admit it Cotty, you really want one of these next, the girl not the gun ;-). Or maybe both. Hey I'll take what i can get! Seriously, I'm done with buying

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-05 Thread Cotty
On 05/11/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Nothing really wide in that lineup though. Not at least in that format. This is true. Already my shooting habits mean that I use the A20 a lot, not so much the 85. The 50 will be fine, and then the 85 can come back to EOS ;-) If I want

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-03 Thread Christian
Good point! Guess I wasn't thinking... Christian graywolf wrote: Why not do the initial build at home then move the box to your parents? Christian wrote: A friend added to the paranoia the other day and suggested running another rsync job to another Linux box at my parents' house for

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-02 Thread Christian
The fires in California got me thinking about my image storage and backup requirements. I thought, what if I had to leave my house and only had a few minutes to get the family to safety? All my kids' and family pictures are stored digitally and I worry about losing them to natural disaster

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-02 Thread Cotty
On 02/11/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: On a happy note: I just took delivery of a beautiful 580EX to replace my dead Smegma 500. m shiny, new flash. Ooooh. I've had mine for a while now - still haven't figured it out. I hate flash. I stick the camera on manual, 1/250th and

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-02 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote: Dude - you want to move from there, sounds like a dangerous place to live. Wild, wild, Freaking, West... Even my Kid's hamster is armed On a happy note: I just took delivery of a beautiful 580EX to replace my dead Smegma 500. m shiny, new flash. -- Christian

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-02 Thread Christian
Christian wrote: Cotty wrote: Dude - you want to move from there, sounds like a dangerous place to live. Wild, wild, Freaking, West... Even my Kid's hamster is armed On a happy note: I just took delivery of a beautiful 580EX to replace my dead Smegma 500. m shiny, new

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-02 Thread Cotty
On 02/11/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: what if I had to leave my house and only had a few minutes to get the family to safety? All my kids' and family pictures are stored digitally and I worry about losing them to natural disaster or some other tragedy including computer

OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-02 Thread mike wilson
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] While a little performance may be lost, might it be better to go with a non-RAID configuration and be sure that Windows swap and Photoshop scratch are on two independent physical devices? Any one have experience with this exactly. Also, I'm a little

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-02 Thread Tom C
as to make microdrives look like dinosaurs. Tom C. From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:04:49 +0900 At 05:03 AM 2/11

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-02 Thread P. J. Alling
She looks like she can chew up nails and spit them out as bullets... Cotty wrote: On 02/11/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: On a happy note: I just took delivery of a beautiful 580EX to replace my dead Smegma 500. m shiny, new flash. Ooooh. I've had mine for a

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-02 Thread Christian
P. J. Alling wrote: She looks like she can chew up nails and spit them out as bullets... My kind of girl and she excellent taste in lenses. :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net Cotty wrote: http://www.rpphoto.com/images/howto/Anna%20and%20Turbo.jpg The battery, no

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-02 Thread graywolf
Why not do the initial build at home then move the box to your parents? Christian wrote: A friend added to the paranoia the other day and suggested running another rsync job to another Linux box at my parents' house for even more redundancy. Not a bad idea... The initial sync would take

OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-01 Thread Tom C
I'm within hours from making a decision regarding a new desktop. I'm currently using PS2. The desktop comes with Vista Home Premium, though it's possible I'll go to XP Pro depending on how performance seems. I'm on a laptop at present with Vista Business. No major complaints after turning

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-01 Thread pnstenquist
I use a plumped up version of option one: five 500 GB non-RAID SATA drives. I back up important work on alternate drives as necessary, and I back up all photo files on DVD. Non-RAID individual drives give me lots of flexibility. That's what I like. Paul -- Original message

RE: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-01 Thread Tom C
PS2... meant Photoshop CS2. Tom C. From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:03:51 -0700 I'm within hours from making a decision regarding a new desktop

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions I'm within hours from making a decision regarding a new desktop. I'm currently using PS2. The desktop comes with Vista Home Premium, though it's possible I'll go to XP Pro depending on how

Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

2007-11-01 Thread David Savage
At 05:03 AM 2/11/2007, you wrote: I'm within hours from making a decision regarding a new desktop. I'm currently using PS2. The desktop comes with Vista Home Premium, though it's possible I'll go to XP Pro depending on how performance seems. I'm on a laptop at present with Vista Business. No

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/9/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed: from a megapixels point of view, they have settled. higher frame rate has its cost. on the film side of things, the tradeoff never had to be made in the same way. a piece of film has the same resolution in every camera body, as JCO is fond of

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-10 Thread Herb Chong
: Saturday, September 10, 2005 5:40 AM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... AFAIK it is Canon's plan to consolidate the top line into one model, obviously full frame with the higher frame rate, and that's just a matter of the electronics handling the data quickly enough. It will happen. They don't want

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-09 Thread Adam Maas
... - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... The only one I'm aware of is the (much) larger buffer in the D70, D50 and 350D/XT and the generally better write speeds. AF

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-09 Thread Cotty
On 8/9/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed: i said mid-range Nikon and Canons. that means 1D Mk2 and D2H. Please define a top-of-the range Nikon and Canons. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-09 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 9/8/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that waiting for the next model will provide a significant improvement that's cost effective. cheers, frank Neither do I. But more MP will give me more room for cropping (yup, I'm a lousy photographer who can't get the

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-09 Thread Steve Jolly
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Btw: did you saw the dpreview news? There is a new Sony camera, a prosumer with the new 10MP APS-C sized Sony sensor. That's the reason I don't know if I should wait or not (the sensor, not the camera). The problem is nobody seems to think we'll see a new DS with this

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-09 Thread Herb Chong
they cost about half the price of the top of the line bodies. Herb... - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:18 AM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... Those, being full-on Pro bodies for PJ work, would

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-09 Thread Herb Chong
D2X and 1Ds Mk2. price is enough. Herb... - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 3:53 AM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... Please define a top-of-the range Nikon and Canons.

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/9/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed: D2X and 1Ds Mk2. price is enough. Sorry Herb, I have to disagree. Why would Canon run the 1DsmkII and the 1DmkII in tandem? The answer is that they both fulfil different needs, based on current technology. If a sports shooter had unlimited

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-09 Thread Herb Chong
- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... If a sports shooter had unlimited funds and had to choose between the two Canon models above, which one do you think he would choose? And so

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 9/8/05, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go for a high end digital camera now (DSLR) camera. It's not important wich one as long as it's a Pentax - to facilitate your expensive lenses - and future lenses. Changing brand is a very expensive PITA. Be prepared to buy a new body every 2-5

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote on 08.09.05 11:01: Btw: did you saw the dpreview news? There is a new Sony camera, a prosumer with the new 10MP APS-C sized Sony sensor. That's the reason I don't know if I should wait or not (the sensor, not the camera). The problem is nobody seems to think

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread danilo
I agree with you Jens. Digital cameras aren't a new technology that needs several improves anymore. Those days are gone. (even if it was three years ago) What we have now is enough for most people. Of course you can wait for the next model, but then, why not wait more for the *next one* again?

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread frank theriault
On 9/8/05, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strangely enough, several of us seem to manage quite well with the D A higher frame rate, and faster AF, would definitely be welcome. But unless it's your primary source of income the D can serve quite well. I think we've reached the

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread R.C.Booth
respect. And, I've begun to figure out the processing of RAW files and am very impressed with the results. RCB - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:58 AM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... On 9

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread Herb Chong
: R.C.Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... I agree. Faster AF hasn't been an issue for me since all I have are manual focus lenses. As with computers, the latest model is always a bit obsolete by the time

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Herb Chong wrote: all of Pentax's SLRs and all of their DSLRs have limitations that prevent me from capturing in about 10% of the situations i shoot, by design. these are situations where i know the mid-level Nikon's and Canons are capable of getting the shot. Out of

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread Adam Maas
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Herb Chong wrote: all of Pentax's SLRs and all of their DSLRs have limitations that prevent me from capturing in about 10% of the situations i shoot, by design. these are situations where i know the mid-level Nikon's and Canons are capable of

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread Herb Chong
buffer size and AF speed. some of them handle focus tracking of moving objects better too. Herb... - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... Out

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-08 Thread Herb Chong
i said mid-range Nikon and Canons. that means 1D Mk2 and D2H. Herb... - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... The only one I'm aware of is the (much) larger

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks for the reminder about the adapter. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi IF you buy a DS and have a few SD cards, THEN buy a D, you are not necessarily in a bad position. There are several vendors offering SD- CF card adapters that allow you to use your SD cards

RE: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-07 Thread Jens Bladt
RAW exclusively?) Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 6. september 2005 22:08 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Decisions, decisions... Hello everyone! My brain hurts. To be brief

RE: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-07 Thread Jens Bladt
://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 6. september 2005 23:52 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Decisions, decisions... Because different cards donìt give you different taste on images (like different film). Because memory cards

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-07 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 07:29:44AM +0200, Jens Bladt wrote: I love using the D, except the buffer is too small (make five shots, then wait 30-40 seconds :-( AF is too slow for some occations. It's not a camera for sports photography. For that you'll need 8 4-8 FPS, a larger buffer and very

Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
Hello everyone! My brain hurts. To be brief, I decided to go digital - mostly due to some unpleasant experiences with filmminilabs. I'm sure I'll enjoy an *istDS, it's a great camera. But... I can't stop thinking what will the next model looks like? - you know, few more MPs would help me change

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
One big question is how much you are willing to spend. The DS is about as low as it is going to get. A great time to buy it. The D replacment will likely come in at a price point significantly higher - could be as high or higher than when it was introduced. Are you willing to spend $1500-$2000

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
Well, in Romania the *istDS is over 1000 euro (strange, but there is an *istD at a slightly lower price. Hmm... faster or wireless flashgrip? confused. again. ). I'm willing (but not happy) to pay the price, but for the *istD2... 2000$ (1500euro, but I guess it will be closer to 2000 around here)

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Last time I looked (yesterday) KEH had two LN- istD bodies for $725.00 Shel [Original Message] From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 9/6/2005 1:43:14 PM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... Well, in Romania the *istDS is over 1000 euro (strange

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread P. J. Alling
The Ds is often selling for less than the DL these days, which for what it is, makes it an incredible bargain. The Ds2 will probably sell for an intermediate price between the D, (which is still a current model), and DL. I don't think you could find a better price/performance ratio than the Ds

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I am quite happy with the image quality and capabilities of the DS for my work. When I realized that it sufficed for my needs, I decided to wait through the summer to see if anything substantially better would be announced for release before the end of the year. The DL was announced, end

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 9/7/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). That's an excellent ideea! Thanks! grin (no offence, I really appreciate your help - and I think you're right) -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I agree 100% with Peter and Bruce, unless you want to go for a used body. Then the KEH offer sounds pretty good. If after using the DS for a while, I find that I like the idea of digital, I'm thinking that a good used D may be my second body, unless there's something really new from Pentax which

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Dario Bonazza
Shel, I don't find to be a great idea mixing SD and CF, unless you truly need some D specs. Dario - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... I agree 100

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I don't see what difference it makes. I shoot different brands and types of film. Why don't you think it a good idea? Shel [Original Message] From: Dario Bonazza Shel, I don't find to be a great idea mixing SD and CF, unless you truly need some D specs.

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Dario Bonazza
and enough SD for your needs. Why? Dario - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:45 PM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... I don't see what difference it makes. I shoot different brands and types of film

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Dario Bonazza
@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:45 PM Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... I don't see what difference it makes. I shoot different brands and types of film. Why don't you think it a good idea? Shel [Original Message] From: Dario Bonazza Shel, I don't find to be a great idea

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
[Original Message] From: Dario Bonazza Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... In other words, if you need say 1GB (max.), you have to buy 2 GB (1 GB CF + 1GB SD) for having 1 GB wit any camera (in case one fails, in case you are continuing using one for some reason, etc.). Dario

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
when/if the time comes to get a second body. Shel [Original Message] From: Dario Bonazza Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions... In other words, if you need say 1GB (max.), you have to buy 2 GB (1 GB CF + 1GB SD) for having 1 GB wit any camera (in case one fails, in case you

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/6/2005 1:44:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a) buy the *istDS b) wait a little for the DS2 (well, buying from bhphotovideo is cheaper) c) wait for the DS2 replacement. That could mean... next summer? Or I can hope to see it at PMA? WTF, my car is

Re: Decisions, decisions...

2005-09-06 Thread derbyc
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: However, storage cards are reasonably inexpensive and generally a one- time purchase. Two 1G cards rated at 45-60x, in either CF or SD format, are a little less than $160. That's ten rolls of film plus processing, less than two/three weeks

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread Bob W
Hi, Monday, January 17, 2005, 5:06:57 AM, Amita wrote: HP has that. And Epsons can be converted. Still you can not get the contrast range that you can with a good silver print. I just heard about a company called Lyson that sells a package of black inks, software and print drivers for

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/1/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: So you equate grain, or rather, the lack of it, an indicator of quality ... correct? No, not really. Grain was the wrong word to use, I hereby retract it. I find film (col neg that is) gives a 'spongy' feel to prints, I really don't know

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pcn Most of the pros I've spoken to are shooting digital for pcn both BW and color. Most feel their digital prints are better than pcn the silver prints they produced in years past. In any case, it's pcn obviously the wave of the future for all

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread Frantisek
Cotty... C Paul is not on a crusade, he is taking part in a debate in its own thread C on the PDML and is merely putting his point of view across. As such, he C is using his vocabulary as he sees best, and is imparting information. He C is doing nothing wrong. And Paul... wrote: P I'm not

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Frantisek. And I will make every effort to be civil as well:-). As I mentioned in another post, this discussion is somewhat pointless, because it's based mainly on conjecture. The only real evidence that can be offered in regard to film vs. digital is the type of who is using what

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2005-01-17 Thread brooksdj
I went for a drive to Kinmount to shoot the old sawmill Saturday. I took the istD and the PZ-1 with Tri-X 400 and the 6x7 (empty but with some different rolls just in case) and the SP for slide should i want. Shot about 30 or so istD pictures,one roll of Tri-x and nothing from the others. I

RE: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread J. C. O'Connell
the best BW FF 35mm Films JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 4:49 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions... I went for a drive to Kinmount to shoot the old sawmill Saturday. I took the istD

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions... William Robb There are still no dedicated BW inkjet printers? You'd think someone (Epson, Canon, etc.) would jump on that sooner or later. Or have an all black cartridge (with shades of gray) that can be loaded

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions... When you (or JCO) get a moment, can you provide a brief rundown on what's needed. No rush ... A rotary processor is nice, but if you can do bare bones processing, a stainless tank will do fine

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2005-01-17 Thread J. C. O'Connell
or C41 ) process, constant agitation seems to be most consistant for this critical step. JCO -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:23 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions... - Original Message

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Decisions...Decisions... One of the beauties of using 85 deg processing is that since it is only about 12 degrees above room temperture, there is much less drift in the process temp vs. time in an untempered process. With 100 deg

RE: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread Butch Black
JCO wrote: I use intermittent agitation for fix with BW and Bleach-fix with C41. I NEVER use intermittent agitation with any developer ( BW or C41 ) process, constant agitation seems to be most consistent for this critical step. As both BW fix and C-41 bleach fix and stabilizer are process to

RE: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread Butch Black
One more question Has anyone who has used the Arista 85F chemistry had any negatives printed by a one hour lab. If so, did they have to make any additional color corrections to get it to print correctly? Butch

RE: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread J. C. O'Connell
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Decisions...Decisions... One more question Has anyone who has used the Arista 85°F chemistry had any negatives printed by a one hour lab. If so, did they have to make any additional color corrections to get it to print correctly? Butch

RE: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread J. C. O'Connell
to? Silence is golden.. JCO -Original Message- From: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 1:26 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Decisions...Decisions... JCO wrote: I use intermittent agitation for fix with BW and Bleach-fix with C41. I NEVER

RE: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread J. C. O'Connell
just assumed with a 10 minute time intermittant agitaion would be fine since I remembered that intermittant was OK with BW fixing... JCO -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:55 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Decisions

RE: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread J. C. O'Connell
17, 2005 1:58 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Decisions...Decisions... yes an adjustment of the starting temp equal to plus half the total delta T would be the way to go. But since I used constant agitaion and they recommended that would give higher contrast ( I read that as more

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Decisions...Decisions... I swear I read somewhere that you could overfix BW film and that was another reason I didn't want to change to constant agitation for Fix. If you are using a sodium based fixer, it's pretty hard to over fix

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Decisions...Decisions... I havent done that but I seriously doubt it would be needed becase when I scan the arista-developed negs they don't need any corrections compared to 1-hr lab-developed C41 negs. C-41 is nice. It's a pretty

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: (it was nice and sunny when i set out on my 3 hour tour,yes a 3 hour tourvbg) Spooky. You know how you build up a mental image of someone you've never met? I've always imagined Dave as looking like The Skipper ! (was it Alan Hale??) !!

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-17 Thread David Mann
On Jan 17, 2005, at 10:28 PM, Cotty wrote: No, not really. Grain was the wrong word to use, I hereby retract it. I find film (col neg that is) gives a 'spongy' feel to prints, I really don't know how to describe it properly. Digital shots seem 'cleaner', more representative of the scene...

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/1/05, Dave Kennedy, discombobulated, unleashed: That's 2 comments suggesting I sell the film. Wow. I would find that difficult making the jump from film to digital cold turkey. hmmm You'd be surprised. I wonder how many DSLR owners have picked up a film camera and actually used it

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! DK What do I do with it? DK Currently I have: DK PZ-1, MZ-10 bodies. DK 28-70/4 FA DK 70-210/4.5-5.6 F-SMC DK 50/1.7F DK 28-200 FA DK 105/2.8 Kiron Macro DK 400/5.6 Sigma APO DK 1.7x AF Teleconvertor DK Manfrotto Tripod. DK My ideas : DK 1) Hold onto it save towards an *istD. Because I

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why? Do you find that shooting digital affords better final quality prints? Are most of your photos destined for the web or email in some way, bypassing prints in most instances? If you make prints, how large are they? (Did you send my high quality BW print yet?) Do you prefer digital because

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote: (I've always disliked processing film - B-O-R-I-N-G), or don't want to spend the time traveling to and from the lab to get the film processed. Don't you do mail order in the US? I get a 36exp-colour film processed, printed twice at 6x4 and a CD for

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
-discuss@pdml.net Date: 1/16/2005 6:56:00 AM Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions... On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote: (I've always disliked processing film - B-O-R-I-N-G), or don't want to spend the time traveling to and from the lab to get the film processed. Don't you do mail order

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I used my Leica iiif once. When I did my first shoot with the digital, I took my 6x7 along, but it never came out of its case. Paul On Jan 16, 2005, at 5:56 AM, Cotty wrote: On 15/1/05, Dave Kennedy, discombobulated, unleashed: That's 2 comments suggesting I sell the film. Wow. I would find that

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions... On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote: (I've always disliked processing film - B-O-R-I-N-G), or don't want to spend the time traveling to and from the lab to get the film processed. Don't you do

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions... Why? Do you find that shooting digital affords better final quality prints? Are most of your photos destined for the web or email in some way, bypassing prints in most instances? If you make prints, how

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions... I wonder how many DSLR owners have picked up a film camera and actually used it since acquiring the digital? It's not that I can't - but I just don't want to. I have, when I need my 15 to act like a really wide

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread Bob W
Hi, Don't you do mail order in the US? I get a 36exp-colour film processed, printed twice at 6x4 and a CD for 9.75 (around 18-20 dollars, I would say), incl. stamps and what have you. I have done cheaper (but not as good) in the past. Kostas The man who recommended mail-order procecssing

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions... Don't you do mail order in the US? I get a 36exp-colour film processed, printed twice at 6x4 and a CD for 9.75 (around 18-20 dollars, I would say), incl

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I shoot a fair amount of color these days ... there's a place for digi here, but the reasons may not be the same as for other people. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shel, I don't think digital is going to be a good choice for much of what you do. There are

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread Graywolf
Without even looking I can imagine Shel's response to this (grin). Most folks who still do serious BW would respond similarly. If you shoot nothing but lab processed 35mm color negative, then yes get a DSLR, you will never pick up a film camera again. Me, I can not see a digital camera

RE: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
are excellent. JCO -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:20 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions... I'd NEVER send my film out to be processed by mail order! While I find processing film to be boring

Re: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Decisions...Decisions... why not do C41 at home too? Its quick, cheap, easy, and wont get mishandled. I have been doing my own for about a year now and would do any labs again. I used to think is was hard, I was wrong. I do 85 deg

RE: Decisions...Decisions...

2005-01-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
seconds off. JCO -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:29 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Decisions...Decisions... - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Decisions...Decisions... why

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