Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 8/11/16, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: >I had to type "I side with Cotty here" five times before it stuck >on the screen. Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-08 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 7 Nov 2016 22:35, "Steve Cottrell" wrote: > > On 6/11/16, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >I side with Cotty here - X20 is a good option. > >I must put one on my Christmas list... > > Why Christopher I do believe this is a first ;-) I know. I had to type "I

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-08 Thread Eric Weir
> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Bill wrote: > > It's about the same size as a Pentax ME-Super. A little bigger than that, not > as big as an LX. They are not a big camera. Couple it with a 35mm f/2 WR and > you have a very compact high quality camera That’s the

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/11/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: >More size hints: > >http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/addons/xt-1pron1.html That is horny! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/11/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >I think the message there is buy an MX... Hr!! :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/11/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: > I've been >finding that my needs for the elusive perfect camera aren't being met, MARK -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Larry Colen
Bruce Walker wrote: As a fellow Pentax user, what compact camera like this would you recommend? Depending on your definition of pocketable, the K-r with a DA40/2.8 is surprisingly trim and capable. By pocketable, it will easily fit in cargo pockets or jacket pockets. In that realm I

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Bill
On 11/7/2016 5:21 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 7/11/16, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: Finally, a quick shout out for another camera that will easily satisfy your requirements Size hints More size hints:

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Bill
On 11/7/2016 12:51 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Bill wrote: On 11/5/2016 8:17 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: So what I'd like is pocketable and with the "feel" of an old school film camera. If you have big pockets, the Fuji T-T2 with the

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread P.J. Alling
That seems to be the problem, what you gain with the tiny body you lose with the adapter, or vice versa. On 11/7/2016 6:21 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 7/11/16, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: Finally, a quick shout out for another camera that will easily satisfy your

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Nov 7, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > On 7 Nov 2016, at 19:04, Bruce Walker > wrote: >> >>> What Bruce really wants, deep in his heart of hearts, is a Leica M typ 262. >>> He should bite the bullet,

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 7/11/16, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Micro Four Thirds, so a large range of lenses available - including some >>manual Voigtlander f/0.95 lenses (1 in your range) - as well as a number >>of adapters

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote: > On 5/11/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>So what I'd like is pocketable and with the "feel" of an old school >>film camera. That is, simple ergonomics. Simple i

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 7 Nov 2016, at 23:22, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 7/11/16, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Finally, a quick shout out for another camera that will easily satisfy >> your requirements > > Size hints > > I

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/11/16, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: >Finally, a quick shout out for another camera that will easily satisfy >your requirements Size hints -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/11/16, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: >Micro Four Thirds, so a large range of lenses available - including some >manual Voigtlander f/0.95 lenses (1 in your range) - as well as a number >of adapters for legacy lenses like Pentax. Voila

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 5/11/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: >So what I'd like is pocketable and with the "feel" of an old school >film camera. That is, simple ergonomics. Simple interface, with >buttons and dials for the important most-used functions. If you're considering Leicas

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/11/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >These two Fujis are not, in my opinion, simple to use. The menus and >user interface are a mess. It's all to easy to change settings >inadvertently, without any warning, and I find it really confusing and >difficult to restore them to what I

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/11/16, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: >I side with Cotty here - X20 is a good option. >I must put one on my Christmas list... Why Christopher I do believe this is a first ;-) You been playing with Bob's ? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 7 Nov 2016, at 19:04, Bruce Walker wrote: > >> What Bruce really wants, deep in his heart of hearts, is a Leica M typ 262. >> He should bite the bullet, and go out and buy one. And some lenses too. > > You know something crazy? I see that you are right. The Leica is

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Bruce, a friend of mine has one. I handled it briefly few times. It is of course on the smallish size, but it has general gestalt of rangefinder camera, as I see it. Here I have to admit that I only shot one roll of film with Russian Leica clone, so I don't have that much of a expertise as to how

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Bruce Walker
It was not, until just now. :) Thanks, Boris, under consideration. On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Was Panasonic LX100 mentioned? > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Bob

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Was Panasonic LX100 mentioned? On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> >> Yes, it's 35mm equivalent. I have a Fuji X100, which was the first >> generation of that series. It's a

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > Yes, it's 35mm equivalent. I have a Fuji X100, which was the first generation > of that series. It's a nice camera, but my X20 sees far more use, and I may > sell the X100 to fund my French bicycle habit. > > These two

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-07 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Bill wrote: > On 11/5/2016 8:17 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> So what I'd like is pocketable and with the "feel" of an old school >> film camera. > > If you have big pockets, the Fuji T-T2 with the 35mm lens would be an > excellent

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yup. My 'pocketable' is the M-D with 35, 50, or 75 mm lens. Simple and easy to use. G > On Nov 6, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > What Bruce really wants, deep in his heart of hearts, is a Leica M typ 262. > He should bite the bullet, and go out and buy one.

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-06 Thread Stan Halpin
;> lens. >>> >>> Thanks everybody! >>> >>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote: >>>> On 5/11/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: >>>> >>>>> So what I'd

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-06 Thread Bob W-PDML
e Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote: >>> On 5/11/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> >>>> So what I'd like is pocketable and with the "feel" of an old school >>>> film camera. That is, simple ergonomics. Simple interface, with >&

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-06 Thread Chris Mitchell
what I'd like is pocketable and with the "feel" of an old school >>>film camera. That is, simple ergonomics. Simple interface, with >>>buttons and dials for the important most-used functions. I need >>>reading glasses to see closeup and I prefer devices I can

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-06 Thread Bruce Walker
e "feel" of an old school >>film camera. That is, simple ergonomics. Simple interface, with >>buttons and dials for the important most-used functions. I need >>reading glasses to see closeup and I prefer devices I can work largely >>by feel. Best if it has

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-05 Thread Ken Waller
versatile Nikon Coolpix 7100, its pocketable if you have somewhat bigger pockets. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <danmaty...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic er

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
me. >> >> So what I'd like is pocketable and with the "feel" of an old school >> film camera. That is, simple ergonomics. Simple interface, with >> buttons and dials for the important most-used functions. I need >> reading glasses to see closeup and I prefer devices I c

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 5/11/16, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: > I have >played briefly with a Fujifilm XPro1 and the viewfinder is lovely so I'm >assuming the viewfinders on the X10 and X20 are as well. The VF in the X10 and X20 is an optical design, but is basic. The difference between the two is

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 5/11/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: >So what I'd like is pocketable and with the "feel" of an old school >film camera. That is, simple ergonomics. Simple interface, with >buttons and dials for the important most-used functions. I need >reading glasses to se

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-05 Thread P.J. Alling
subject. I am finally tired of trying to get any decent shots with a smartphone which, despite being always available, nearly always disappoints me. So what I'd like is pocketable and with the "feel" of an old school film camera. That is, simple ergonomics. Simple interface, with buttons

Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-05 Thread Bill
;feel" of an old school film camera. That is, simple ergonomics. Simple interface, with buttons and dials for the important most-used functions. I need reading glasses to see closeup and I prefer devices I can work largely by feel. Best if it has a viewfinder. Willing to consider EVF if

Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

2016-11-05 Thread Bruce Walker
ilm camera. That is, simple ergonomics. Simple interface, with buttons and dials for the important most-used functions. I need reading glasses to see closeup and I prefer devices I can work largely by feel. Best if it has a viewfinder. Willing to consider EVF if I can see it in the flesh and it convinces me. I

D-BGG2 ergonomics

2007-02-21 Thread Jens Bladt
It's been a while since I used a camera awith a battery grip - or a winder screwd on to the bottum of the kamera. I have discovered that it improved the ergonomics a lot. When placing the camera in my left hand, my fingers get much more room to handle the lens - focusing, zooming etc. That' very

Re: D-BGG2 ergonomics

2007-02-21 Thread Thibouille
Those who have/had the grip for the D, is the grip for the K10D that much better? 2007/2/21, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's been a while since I used a camera awith a battery grip - or a winder screwd on to the bottum of the kamera. I have discovered that it improved the ergonomics a lot

Re: D-BGG2 ergonomics

2007-02-21 Thread cbwaters
It's better but not as much better as the one on the MZ-S - Original Message - From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:45 PM Subject: Re: D-BGG2 ergonomics Those who have/had the grip for the D, is the grip

Re: D-BGG2 ergonomics

2007-02-21 Thread Stan Halpin
Message - From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:45 PM Subject: Re: D-BGG2 ergonomics Those who have/had the grip for the D, is the grip for the K10D that much better? 2007/2/21, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: D-BGG2 ergonomics

2007-02-21 Thread David Savage
but not as much better as the one on the MZ-S - Original Message - From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:45 PM Subject: Re: D-BGG2 ergonomics Those who have/had the grip for the D, is the grip

RE: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread Bob W
September 2006 02:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Tim Øsleby wrote: Note to myself: You don't understand puns, therefore; never respond to a pun thread. Mike's post was such a rare subspecies - the Sunderland Dialect Pun - that Mike himself

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread mike wilson
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Tim Øsleby wrote: Note to myself: You don't understand puns, therefore; never respond to a pun thread. Mike's post was such a rare subspecies - the Sunderland Dialect Pun - that Mike himself was likely the only

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread mike wilson
] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 16 September 2006 02:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Tim Øsleby wrote: Note to myself: You don't understand puns, therefore; never respond to a pun thread. Mike's post was such a rare subspecies - the Sunderland Dialect

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/9/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I got it! I just thought it was too crap to comment on. Besides, these pun threads are becoming too predictable. Most of the replies seem like Pavlova reflexes. But you must admit a hunger for them. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

RE: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread Jens Bladt
] vegne af Tim Řsleby Sendt: 14. september 2006 14:37 Til: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Emne: Green button and ergonomics. I'm not familiar with the green button. I have a question about it and ergonomics. I'm a DS user. When using the pre A lenses I use the AE-L button. I'm told this does the same

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
I wish he'd stop dogging us about them. Bob S. On 9/16/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/9/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I got it! I just thought it was too crap to comment on. Besides, these pun threads are becoming too predictable. Most of the replies seem like Pavlova

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread Adam Maas
: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Emne: Green button and ergonomics. I'm not familiar with the green button. I have a question about it and ergonomics. I'm a DS user. When using the pre A lenses I use the AE-L button. I'm told this does the same as the original green button. I'm using the thumb

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread mike wilson
I hear the sound of a joke whizzing over people's heads. (Hint: Pavlova and Pavlov are two different people) Or a meringue? Bob Sullivan wrote: I wish he'd stop dogging us about them. Bob S. On 9/16/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/9/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: I hear the sound of a joke whizzing over people's heads. So people are making a kind of faux pas de deux? (Hint: Pavlova and Pavlov are two different people) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 16 September 2006 21:42 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. mike wilson wrote: I hear the sound of a joke whizzing over people's heads. So

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread graywolf
Are we speaking of the dancer, or the gymnastic, or someone else entirely? -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- mike wilson wrote: I hear the sound of a joke whizzing over people's heads.

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread mike wilson
graywolf wrote: Are we speaking of the dancer, or the gymnastic, or someone else entirely? We were talking about eggs but I see we now have a ballet pun thread. Culchah? We got it! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-16 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 16 September 2006 21:42 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. mike wilson wrote: I hear the sound of a joke whizzing over people's heads

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-15 Thread mike wilson
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. Are you starting another pun thread or a meringue? If I have to explain

RE: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Tim Øsleby wrote: Don't worry Mike, Merriam-Webster is your friend http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-searchva=meringu e Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Time to weep 8-) In the local English dialect, one would

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: 15. september 2006 23:33 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Tim Øsleby wrote: Don't worry Mike, Merriam-Webster is your friend http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Tim Øsleby wrote: Note to myself: You don't understand puns, therefore; never respond to a pun thread. Mike's post was such a rare subspecies - the Sunderland Dialect Pun - that Mike himself was likely the only one who had any chance of getting it! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia

RE: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
I know the man is mean, but is he that mean? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 16. september 2006 03:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics

Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm not familiar with the green button. I have a question about it and ergonomics. I'm a DS user. When using the pre A lenses I use the AE-L button. I'm told this does the same as the original green button. I'm using the thumb at the AE-L button. After getting used to it, it's no problem

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Adam Maas
Tim Øsleby wrote: I'm not familiar with the green button. I have a question about it and ergonomics. I'm a DS user. When using the pre A lenses I use the AE-L button. I'm told this does the same as the original green button. I'm using the thumb at the AE-L button. After getting used

RE: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
(just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14. september 2006 16:11 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Having the green button near the shutter button means you can keep

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread pnstenquist
message -- From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not familiar with the green button. I have a question about it and ergonomics. I'm a DS user. When using the pre A lenses I use the AE-L button. I'm told this does the same as the original green button. I'm using the thumb

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
On 9/14/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks I've got to make new habits. Hope you are right about it getting automatic after a while. Most likely you are. I'll have to get use to the Fn button instead of turning the dedicated knob/dial. Although from what I've seen on the dpreview

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: At least we aren't dealing with 3 UI's like Canon and Nikon users (Single-wheel, Dual-wheel and Pro bodies all have differing interfaces from the Big Two). How so? Canon 1D cameras have a main dial (just above the shutter button) and a rear

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm probably making a lot of fuzz over a minor thing. How many chicks are you trying to hatch? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ --

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 14.09.2006, at 16:37 , David Savage wrote: I'll have to get use to the Fn button instead of turning the dedicated knob/dial. Although from what I've seen on the dpreview pages makes me think the learning curve won't be that steep. Speaking of ergonomics. When you press OK button you got

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: At least we aren't dealing with 3 UI's like Canon and Nikon users (Single-wheel, Dual-wheel and Pro bodies all have differing interfaces from the Big Two). How so? Canon 1D cameras have a main dial (just above the shutter

RE: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 14. september 2006 17:23 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
and the camera is in M mode. But I doubt it works that way now. Welcome to the club, many of us question why Pentax makes it's decisions. Tim Øsleby wrote: I'm not familiar with the green button. I have a question about it and ergonomics. I'm a DS user. When using the pre A lenses I use the AE-L button

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Tom C
I heard that all buttons are fully mappable . :-) Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:26:33 -0400 Yes, you'll have

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: Like Nikon, the basic control dials are the same between the mid-range and Pro bodies, as is the basic AE-Lock setup. But virtually every other control differs, the 3 button setup (Nikon uses something similer, 3 buttons and a drive mode ring)

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. I bet you had to scramble to come up with that one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
You'll fry for this Cotty. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Kenneth Waller
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll fry for this Cotty. It takes some huevos to say that to a big man. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

RE: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. I bet you had to scramble to come up with that one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. Are you starting another pun thread or a meringue? If I have to explain that, I'll weep. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
2006 22:56 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. Are you starting another pun thread or a meringue? If I have

RE: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Tom C
According to John Forbes only Luddites would use that dictionary. Guess it's why I do. Tom C. From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Green button and ergonomics. Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Kenneth Waller wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. I bet you had to scramble to come up with that one. I can't wait to see what else this

Re: OT: Konolta's ergonomics

2005-10-10 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on 10.10.05 7:54: Yes, it is a matter of personal taste. I find the 7D somewhat cluttered and complex, prefer the simplicity of the DS layout and controls. The 7D does seem a fine camera, however. At the first look it seems so. After a while when you get used to this, it

Re: OT: Konolta's ergonomics

2005-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 8, 2005, at 5:27 PM, Bob Shell wrote: http://www.popphoto.com/article.asp?section_id=2article_id=1509 Unlike you, I've liked the ergonomics of Minolta's recent cameras. But that's just a personal preference thing, like whether you like chocolate or vanilla better. Yes

OT: Konolta's ergonomics

2005-10-08 Thread Derby Chang
=1509 Never liked Minolta's ergonomics. They once made you buy an accessory card to program a camera into Av, IIRC. I did have a Hi-Matic when I was a kid though. That was one fun camera. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc

Re: Konolta's ergonomics

2005-10-08 Thread Herb Chong
bracketing on and off instead of using a menu setting. Herb - Original Message - From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 7:58 PM Subject: OT: Konolta's ergonomics Is it just me or is the rear of the 7D a butt

Re: OT: Konolta's ergonomics

2005-10-08 Thread Bob Shell
is in MF. http://www.popphoto.com/article.asp?section_id=2article_id=1509 Never liked Minolta's ergonomics. They once made you buy an accessory card to program a camera into Av, IIRC. I did have a Hi-Matic when I was a kid though. That was one fun camera. I really love the 7D, and find it very

Re: OT: Konolta's ergonomics

2005-10-08 Thread Derby Chang
in whenever the camera is in MF. http://www.popphoto.com/article.asp?section_id=2article_id=1509 Never liked Minolta's ergonomics. They once made you buy an accessory card to program a camera into Av, IIRC. I did have a Hi-Matic when I was a kid though. That was one fun camera. I really love the 7D

Re: Ergonomics of *istD

2004-01-08 Thread Sylwek
Hi, for me, Pentax could change left side mode/WB/ISO wheel to the thingy in style of the one found in Z1P and Z1. It would be just superb for digital camera, as you would always be in shutter priority - even during changing ISO, WB, image quality, you could always back to photographing by just

Re: Ergonomics of *istD

2004-01-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Hi, for me, Pentax could change left side mode/WB/ISO wheel to the thingy in style of the one found in Z1P and Z1. It would be just superb for digital camera, as you would always be in shutter priority - even during changing ISO, WB, image quality, you could always back to photographing by just

Re: Ergonomics of *istD

2004-01-07 Thread Nick Clark
From what I've seen of the *ist-D and my experience with other Pentax bodies including the MZ-S, *ist, etc. I'd like them to take the whole camera and put it in an MZ-S style body. That camera feels just right. They should put back the mechanical aperture mechanism, and perhaps they could

Re: Ergonomics of *istD

2004-01-07 Thread Leonard Paris
Pentax will probably do that when they find a good full frame chip that doesn't price them completely out of the market. They were close to producing the MZ-D, you know. They actually announced it and showed a prototype. The MZ-S is their current Flagship film camera. I don't think the *ist

Ergonomics of *istD

2004-01-06 Thread mapson
Steven Desjardins wrote 2. The idea about replacing the rocker switch with distinct buttons (5?) is a good one. It's way too easy to rock it the wrong way. Let's talk about points to improve for *istD MkII the buttons is one, then we have: * the card door/flap catches on strap * the green

Re: Ergonomics of *istD

2004-01-06 Thread Bill Owens
- Original Message - From: mapson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: Ergonomics of *istD * central hotshoe - unables use of rtf and external flash This is not a problem using the AF360 in wireless mode anything else? Return

Re: Ergonomics of *istD

2004-01-06 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
mapson wrote: * camera too small - with grip is OK - my wife says the same thing This was one of the concerns I have wondered about, I do love my camera to be big and chunky and to look like a professional camera rather than a toy version. tan.

Re: Ergonomics of *istD

2004-01-06 Thread Mark Roberts
mapson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Desjardins wrote 2. The idea about replacing the rocker switch with distinct buttons (5?) is a good one. It's way too easy to rock it the wrong way. Let's talk about points to improve for *istD MkII the buttons is one, then we have: * the card door/flap

Re: Ergonomics of *istD

2004-01-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: mapson Subject: Ergonomics of *istD Let's talk about points to improve for *istD MkII the buttons is one, then we have: * the card door/flap catches on strap * the green button too far from trigger, actually to be used by wrong finger! * ISO/WB

Re: Ergonomics of *istD

2004-01-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Let's talk about points to improve for *istD MkII the buttons is one, then we have: * the card door/flap catches on strap * the green button too far from trigger, actually to be used by wrong finger! * ISO/WB program settings on the same wheel * camera

Re: Ergonomics of *istD

2004-01-06 Thread alex wetmore
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Steve Desjardins wrote: I'm not sure I agree with the too small part. I probably wouldn't have bought the *ist D if it was larger. The major reason that I have stuck with Pentax cameras is their small size, excellent ergonomics, and the number of affordable high quality

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