Re: [Pharo-project] Is this possible with XMLWriter?

2013-02-28 Thread stephane ducasse
Please use the version that is now published in PharoExtras. If you add tests please commit them :) On Feb 27, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys. I am using XMLWriter from http://www.squeaksource.com/XMLWriter to write a specific XML that a

Re: [Pharo-project] test job

2013-03-01 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 28, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2013, at 1:48 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: +1 I want everything automatic :) Even the integration process ? :) Somehow. But I want that one human really reads any

Re: [Pharo-project] String asPacked/fromPacked:

2013-03-01 Thread stephane ducasse
If possible it should abstract away from MethodFinder and encode something about side-effects… Or one could have some form of sandboxed secure environment to run stuff and it's not a problem if there are side effects. It's all not easy… doing MethodFinder right is very hard. Up to

Re: [Pharo-project] String asPacked/fromPacked:

2013-03-01 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 28, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: tinchodias wrote Are you talking about an specific pragma for deprecation? I didn't catch it. I was thinking of something like safeForMethodFinder, but agree with Marcus's objection that those would have to be

Re: [Pharo-project] Test Resources

2013-03-01 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 1, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Jan Vrany jan.vr...@fit.cvut.cz wrote: Interesting point. We'll think about that for SUnit 5.0. I would really like to have a working/discussion group on Sunit 5.0 I'm not happy because I gave feedback to niall when esug was at brest and nothing happen since then.

Re: [Pharo-project] Test Resources

2013-03-01 Thread stephane ducasse
Not entirely true. In Barcelona, me and Niall merged some of stx fixes into SUnit 4.0 and Niall spent a __lot__ of time questioning people behind various dialects to find out what he could cleanup. Last summer, we had a coding session and started with 'to-be-5.0' by integrating St/X SUnit

Re: [Pharo-project] Test Resources

2013-03-01 Thread stephane ducasse
do you have a list =of features that have been added? that are planned? Dear Stephane, as Jan says, we had a good pair-programming session on SUnit in Glasgow. (I hope we'll have another when time permits.) I also have some stuff not yet in the OR (follow-on from my 10-min talk in

Re: [Pharo-project] Test Resources

2013-03-01 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Jan Vrany jan.vr...@fit.cvut.cz wrote: Good to know. This is still strange that nobody ever contacted us. I have no idea about integration/creation of points that I reported in 2009. I do not know if there is a list of features that I have been considered

Re: [Pharo-project] Test Resources

2013-03-02 Thread stephane ducasse
sounds really interesting. I want this features since long time. So where can I find the latest maintained version of SUnit? Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Spreadsheet widget

2013-03-02 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi Ben Stef Where can I find the latest version of SpreadsheetGridMorph ? it is one smalltalkhub on StephaneDucasse / PetitsBazars I think this will be a great addition to the Pharo ecosystem. Here is an interesting excerpt from How Trello is different

Re: [Pharo-project] XML-Support red tests

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
Apparently they were green in in 1.2.1. This clearly shows why we need automated tools for that. Stef On Mar 2, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi XML-support has two red tests in Pharo 1.4 and Pharo2.0. Does anybody know if they were one day green?

Re: [Pharo-project] about OrderedCollection new replaceFrom: 1 to: 5 with: #(6 7 8 9 10) startingAt: 1

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
I could overwrite XMLOrderedList replaceFrom: aStartingIndex to: anEndingIndex with: aCollection startingAt: aReplacementStart collection replaceFrom: aStartingIndex to: anEndingIndex with: aCollection startingAt:

Re: [Pharo-project] about OrderedCollection new replaceFrom: 1 to: 5 with: #(6 7 8 9 10) startingAt: 1

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 3, 2013, at 9:42 AM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: I could overwrite XMLOrderedList replaceFrom: aStartingIndex to: anEndingIndex with: aCollection startingAt: aReplacementStart collection replaceFrom: aStartingIndex

Re: [Pharo-project] About replace:with/copyReplace:with:

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
this part is missing some methods and rethinking others. replaceAll: with: we never know if this is a collection or all the occurrent of one character. Now replaceAll: col will replace all the col occurrences 'foafobf f' copyReplaceAll: 'fo' with: 'zork' 'zorkazorkbf f'

Re: [Pharo-project] about OrderedCollection new replaceFrom: 1 to: 5 with: #(6 7 8 9 10) startingAt: 1

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
can identify problems. Stef These important changes were made intentionally, so we need to find the rationale of the change. Like is the new behavior covered by new tests ? On 03 Mar 2013, at 09:45, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: On Mar 3, 2013, at 9:42 AM, stephane

Re: [Pharo-project] about OrderedCollection new replaceFrom: 1 to: 5 with: #(6 7 8 9 10) startingAt: 1

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
while in 1.4 and 2.0 OrderedCollection new replaceFrom: 1 to: 5 with: #(6 7 8 9 10) startingAt: 1 raised an error The problem I have is in fact that (OrderedCollection new: 10) replaceFrom: 1 to: 5 with: #(6 7 8 9 10) startingAt: 1 So even if the

Re: [Pharo-project] about OrderedCollection new replaceFrom: 1 to: 5 with: #(6 7 8 9 10) startingAt: 1

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 3, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 03 Mar 2013, at 10:20, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Hi sven yes I imagine now we should improve in trakcing such changes. In addition I do not understand why XMLOrderedList new: 10

Re: [Pharo-project] Spreadsheet widget

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi ben I added you as contributor. Thanks Stef. I've just signed up to Smalltalkhub. How do I contribute to the project? The following has been added to the attached mcz. * Pharo 1.4 does not have LayoutFrameidentity. We should use 2.0 * Allow external control of spreadsheet

Re: [Pharo-project] about run tests from nautilus

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
pf can we stop such kind of mess. I frankly do not see the value of self should not be = $a vs self assert: self = $a I looked and most of the tests in Moose do not gain anything to rely on phExample. And now such change break nautilus. Stef Because some one decided that methods

Re: [Pharo-project] strange autocomplete behavior

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
Check the setting because there are many setting related to the autocompletion. Stef On Mar 3, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Ciprian Teodorov ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I don't know if any of you experience this problem, but with last versions of Pharo I have a strange behavior with

Re: [Pharo-project] about OrderedCollection new replaceFrom: 1 to: 5 with: #(6 7 8 9 10) startingAt: 1

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi levente Thankx for the mail. That OrderedCollection still has 0 size, so there's nothing to replace there. indeed this is what I saw. It was an accident that the code worked before. Consider using #ofSize: instead of #new: if you want the collection to have slots. Yes I fixed the

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Esug-list] [ANN] Minecraft Bindings

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
Fun.I wonder if this is working on mac because my son has minecraft on my mac :)StefBegin forwarded message:From: Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.deSubject: [Esug-list] [ANN] Minecraft BindingsDate: February 25, 2013 3:00:36 AM GMT+01:00To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list

Re: [Pharo-project] about run tests from nautilus

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
I do not buy this argument you will have to show me. when I see self assert: contents = $A I do not see the difference with contents should be equals: $A except that I do not understand what is be and that every object is extended with should and friends. Then I do not want to chain

Re: [Pharo-project] Pastell is now migrated to SmalltalkHub and has a nice CI job

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 3, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Stef wrote: Pastell is now migrated to SmalltalkHub and has a nice CI job Please note that previously ConfigurationOfPastell had the versions: 1.0, 1.0.2, 1.0.3, 1.0.4 and now where? has the versions: 1.0, 1.1., 1.2,

Re: [Pharo-project] Pastell is now migrated to SmalltalkHub and has a nice CI job

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
So what do we do? because frankly I'm fed up and when I see 10 then 102 for a baseline when we had dependency to a project that else makes sure that the system does not work at all I'm puzzled. Now I do not have the time to change that. if you have go ahead. A bit of rigor and consistency

Re: [Pharo-project] Pastell is now migrated to SmalltalkHub and has a nice CI job

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
a system working for real is not a patch. Stef Nicolas 2013/3/3 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr: On Mar 3, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Stef wrote: Pastell is now migrated to SmalltalkHub and has a nice CI job Please note that previously

Re: [Pharo-project] about run tests from nautilus

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
I see what you mean and you will show that to me. I tend to do not like to have three different testing framework, 5 button classes… especially when people building tools have to take care about different conventions. Stef I do not buy this argument you will have to show me. when I see

Re: [Pharo-project] Pastell is now migrated to SmalltalkHub and has a nice CI job

2013-03-03 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 3, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Stef, this is not a problem of SqS. I copied the two new versions manually today back from MetacelloRepository to the SqS/Pastell repo since it looks like they were missing there. strange because I just queried from the

Re: [Pharo-project] Test Resources

2013-03-04 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks I will have look. On 02/03/13 09:03, stephane ducasse wrote: sounds really interesting. I want this features since long time. So where can I find the latest maintained version of SUnit? The current version for St/X maintained by me could be found at https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/hg

Re: [Pharo-project] [Nautilus] Slow Package Menu on Mouse Button Right Click + Fix

2013-03-04 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks a lot Mike. Such contributions are really welcome. We are all working like nuts on so many things :). Stef Dear Pharoers, thank you all for your time and great contributions! Here is a quick performance fix for Nautilus. In Pharo2.0a #20581 and previous versions, selecting

Re: [Pharo-project] ubuntu and debian support

2013-03-04 Thread stephane ducasse
doru why don't we use the inria continuous integration servers? I do not think that this is good for you that it runs on your private machine and bandwidth Stef On Mar 4, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, Moose 4.7 was just released on top of Pharo 1.4, and now

Re: [Pharo-project] About development on symbolic versions

2013-03-04 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks dale I should have tried. I will discuss with the CI guru here and probably the spec for: #'common' version: '1.1-baseline' which is what I'm looking for. I will add that to the book :) For the #development symbolic version you can use any version that you'd like (including

Re: [Pharo-project] Android VM builds restored

2013-03-04 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks for your time Dmitry CogDroid is important for us. Stef On Mar 4, 2013, at 12:29 AM, Dmitry Golubovsky golubov...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The unbundled Android VM builds on new Jenkins have been restored. No changes in the source codes on my part, and I tried to preserve the building

Re: [Pharo-project] [Nautilus] Slow Package Menu on Mouse Button Right Click + Fix

2013-03-05 Thread stephane ducasse
+1 On Mar 4, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Don't forget to sign the license and send it if you didn't do it yet! Best, On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:50 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Thanks a lot Mike. Such contributions

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20583

2013-03-05 Thread stephane ducasse
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote it is downloaded automatically with the zerconf scripts, otherwise here: http://files.pharo.org/image/PharoV20.sources http://files.pharo.org/image/PharoV20.sources.zip Are the zeroconf scripts different than these: http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/script/ ?

Re: [Pharo-project] [2.0 testing] Export / Import Settings Bug + Fix

2013-03-05 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks Mike Can you enter a new bug entry else your contribution may get lost? Stef On Mar 5, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Müller, Mike m...@objektarium.de wrote: Hi Pharoers, thank you for your time. Here is something you may be interested in: Take the latest image or one-click, open settings

Re: [Pharo-project] DBXTalk and Pharo 2.0

2013-03-05 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Guillermo wrote: The last time I tried to load DBXTalk in 2.0 the image hang up when loading FFI :(. So probably we should think on switching to NB FFI, but it will take some time... Mhhh ... when I load

Re: [Pharo-project] Is this possible with XMLWriter?

2013-03-05 Thread stephane ducasse
, On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Please use the version that is now published in PharoExtras. If you add tests please commit them :) On Feb 27, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys. I am using

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] [sbe] Re: [ANN] Writing books with Gutemberg

2013-03-06 Thread stephane ducasse
:) Stef On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Oscar Nierstrasz os...@iam.unibe.ch wrote: Cool, but why is called Gutemberg and not Gutenberg? that's a feature -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

Re: [Pharo-project] osprocess in pharo 2.0

2013-03-06 Thread stephane ducasse
good question. For some reason I thought that OSProcess was integrated in Pharo 2.0, but it appears that it is not in the image. Did I understand the issue incorrectly, or was the class renamed to something else? we did not renamed the class If it is not in the image, was it already

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Writing books with Gutemberg

2013-03-06 Thread stephane ducasse
This sounds quite fascinating. Two questions: - How do I use it? - How are you generating the PDF? We are finishing a version first :) For the first version you will be able to - edit a file in pier syntax - generate latex file - pdf - generate html

Re: [Pharo-project] STON Packages immediately all dirty

2013-03-06 Thread stephane ducasse
May be there are announcements around :). I have this strange problem: - take the latest image - open the configuration browser and load/install Ston - open the monticello browser and ask for changes on STON-Core or STON-Tests against their repo = all dirty while the result should

Re: [Pharo-project] About Pharo extras

2013-03-06 Thread stephane ducasse
I added you :) On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Guido Chari cha...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to participate... 2013/2/25 Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com On 2013-02-25, at 14:01, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] ConfigurationOfSeaside for Pharo 2.0

2013-03-06 Thread stephane ducasse
If you need help to write a configuration of I can help. The problem is that I do not know all the fine grained dependencies. But I think that we can do it step by step. On Mar 7, 2013, at 1:18 AM, Julian Fitzell jfitz...@gmail.com wrote: Have we even done a stable release of 3.1 yet? I don't

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Writing books with Gutemberg

2013-03-07 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 7, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Can Gutemberg files be pulled into a Pier wiki? not fully for now because they manage Chapter and Section while in pier you

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] ConfigurationOfSeaside for Pharo 2.0

2013-03-07 Thread stephane ducasse
If you need help to write a configuration of I can help. The problem is that I do not know all the fine grained dependencies. But I think that we can do it step by step. I have one that's almost done for pharo2 and seaside 3.0.7 (the latest release). It can also load the unreleased

Re: [Pharo-project] please add me to phexample

2013-03-08 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Stefan Marr smallt...@stefan-marr.de wrote: Hi Doru: On 08 Mar 2013, at 06:54, Tudor Girba wrote: The #development version of ConfigurationOfPhexample points to a hardcoded version. Phexample is used extensively in Fame, and Fame is a Moose project, and we

Re: [Pharo-project] VM Crashes

2013-03-08 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:52 AM, David T. Lewis le...@mail.msen.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 11:23:22PM +0100, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Hi Eliot, On 07 Mar 2013, at 23:12, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: I seem to be talking to thin air. If you would use an up-to-date

Re: [Pharo-project] Cleanup of the Zerconf scripts

2013-03-08 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 8, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: With the release of 2.0 imminent we are going to cleanup the zeroconf scripts a bit: - the only valid VM scripts are PharoVM, StackVM and RizelVM - NBCogVM and CogVM scripts are going to be removed! Superb! so if

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Command Line

2013-03-08 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Hi, The last couple of days I have been using the new command line tools and zero conf scripts for real and I must say that I am truly impressed and happy. It is cool :) The save, printVersion, eval, st, config and

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Command Line

2013-03-08 Thread stephane ducasse
My dream is to have phash :) with a fucking cool debugger and OO abstractions and …. well Pharosh And we are getting slowly there… Stef The last couple of days I have been using the new command line tools and zero conf scripts for real and I must say that I am truly impressed and

Re: [Pharo-project] Porting SmaCC from 1.4 to 2.0; doSilently: equivalent ?

2013-03-08 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi, I'm trying to port SmaCC to 2.0 Cool can you publish it in PharoExtras? I would like to have it there + a wonderful set of tests automatically triggered on a nice integration server :) and I'm looking for the equivalent to SystemChangeNotifierdoSilently:. Is it

Re: [Pharo-project] VM Crashes

2013-03-08 Thread stephane ducasse
I was trying to suggest a more meaningful message for the use case of a user running Pharo on a non-Pharo VM. The message says to get a newer VM, which is wrong in that case. Ah that of course :) Yes I understand that I am not part of the target market. I am a person who is trying to

Re: [Pharo-project] VM Crashes

2013-03-08 Thread stephane ducasse
We will have to address this! We are getting there :) Stef But I have said this before: the wall clock time of loading a lot of code is actually close to unacceptable - I don't think it is the download or the compilation, but more all the dynamic stuff that happens after that. There

Re: [Pharo-project] VM Crashes

2013-03-08 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Paul DeBruicker pdebr...@gmail.com wrote: Camillo Bruni-3 wrote If it's too old, what do you do? you go and fetch a newer VM ;). So I would say the implied actions are ok, especially for newcomers, but there should be more details indeed. Since Zinc is now

Re: [Pharo-project] VM Crashes

2013-03-08 Thread stephane ducasse
List, I hope you realize I'm motivated to investigate VM crashes. Esteban reports that the VM is now more stable w.r.t. becomeForward: after I debugged load cases a couple of week ago. But I could do with some help. It really helps to be provided with an image that reproduces the

Re: [Pharo-project] building traits programmatically

2013-03-08 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Ciprian Teodorov ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Can anyone give me some pointers on how to create traits dynamically? you mean with the refactoring engine? I know that one argentinian student added support for traits in RB but I never got the time to

Re: [Pharo-project] access to pharoextras repository

2013-03-09 Thread stephane ducasse
It would be good to have a discussion because all the packages I did do not follow this. what is the point to have a Tests group if the core and default already load them? Hi, Could anyone provide me with access to the PharoExtras team on STHub? I would need to modify a bit the

Re: [Pharo-project] customizing the CommandLineHandler to run Moose tests

2013-03-09 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi doru can you report precisely because now we cannot take any action? Stef p.s. The VM still crashes when running the tests though (at least on Mac)

Re: [Pharo-project] customizing the CommandLineHandler to run Moose tests

2013-03-09 Thread stephane ducasse
this is cool :) Hi, Now that the continuous integration build is using the cool ZeroConf infrastructure, we needed a clean way to run all tests from Moose based on the information gathered from the ConfigurationOfMoose. More precisely we want to run all the tests from all packages that

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] GSoC13: Google Summer of Code started, your ideas please!

2013-03-09 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi janko How do you want to proceed for the topics? I have a list of topics now where do we write them. - tool support rewrite rules - new generation debugger - new change model and session manager (with martin dias) - improving roassal (with alexandre bergel et

Re: [Pharo-project] building traits programmatically

2013-03-09 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:50 PM, Ciprian Teodorov ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:32 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Ciprian Teodorov ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Can anyone give me some

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Command Line

2013-03-09 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:49 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-03-08, at 22:14, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Because in Pharo we are doing more than talking and we value documentation …… Yes guys you can twitt that one! thanks stef. though

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo consultants

2013-03-09 Thread stephane ducasse
That would be awesome. Glad to hear about an initiative to make things sustainable. A catalog of people who works using it would be great. We have the association just for that! In the next version we will add blogging facilities. No need to be a social network site, just a catalog

[Pharo-project] FMSound bass1 play

2013-03-09 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi guys I'm migrating the package Sound and MorphicSound to Pharo2.0 and SmalltalkHub. But I cannot make FMSound bass1 play produce a sound. Phil if i remember correctly you worked on that a couple of months ago. Can you summarize your findings? Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] customizing the CommandLineHandler to run Moose tests

2013-03-09 Thread stephane ducasse
/MacOS/Pharo ./Moose-latest-dev-4.8.image moosetest The VM crashes, but there is no trace of the error. Cheers, Doru On Mar 9, 2013, at 1:35 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Hi doru can you report precisely because now we cannot take any action? Stef p.s

Re: [Pharo-project] access to pharoextras repository

2013-03-09 Thread stephane ducasse
That is not what I said :). ok I see :) We often get at least two groups in a configuration: - Core - the real code - Tests - the associated tests Yes I tried to get consistent. The question is what should be loaded by 'default' (this is what gets loaded when you do not specify

Re: [Pharo-project] FMSound bass1 play

2013-03-09 Thread stephane ducasse
The problem was that I had my headset plugged in and not on my ears = just one hour to find that is the indication that I should better go to sleep. Stef On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:21 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Hi guys I'm migrating the package Sound and MorphicSound

Re: [Pharo-project] FMSound bass1 play

2013-03-09 Thread stephane ducasse
but Beeper primitiveBeep still does not work Stef On Mar 9, 2013, at 11:05 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: The problem was that I had my headset plugged in and not on my ears = just one hour to find that is the indication that I should better go to sleep. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] completion blocking ;)

2013-03-10 Thread stephane ducasse
Yes but it sucks! Or at least we should let the professional decide. I know igor complained already about it and now that I see it he is right. f I disable enter in the preference how do I select? Stef try with enter :) On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-project] FMSound bass1 play

2013-03-10 Thread stephane ducasse
ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr: but Beeper primitiveBeep still does not work Stef On Mar 9, 2013, at 11:05 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: The problem was that I had my headset plugged in and not on my ears = just one hour to find that is the indication that I

Re: [Pharo-project] access to pharoextras repository

2013-03-10 Thread stephane ducasse
yes good idea.! On Mar 10, 2013, at 1:33 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: stephane ducasse wrote: That is why, either we explicitly put the 'Tests' group in the 'default' group, - I would go for this behavior because I do not like implicit behavior when this is about

Re: [Pharo-project] FMSound bass1 play

2013-03-10 Thread stephane ducasse
In fact I get really unpredictable behavior. Sometimes I can produce a sound sometimes not. SoundService default soundEnabled: true I'm puzzled Stef On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:21 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Hi guys I'm migrating the package Sound and MorphicSound

Re: [Pharo-project] what do we do with SoundService?

2013-03-10 Thread stephane ducasse
Sounds ok for me. We should do that for 3.0alpha :) Now I do not care about Beeper removal. I will split sound in different packages because there are sound and score and these are different domains. Stef On Mar 10, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi,

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] GSoC13: Google Summer of Code started, your ideas please!

2013-03-10 Thread stephane ducasse
Dne 09. 03. 2013 13:46, piše stephane ducasse: Hi janko How do you want to proceed for the topics? I have a list of topics now where do we write them. - tool support rewrite rules - new generation debugger - new change model and session manager (with martin dias) - improving

Re: [Pharo-project] MorphicEventHandler behavior.

2013-03-10 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 10, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Steph, I was looking and in the end of #buildKeyboard you have: self submorphsDo: [:m | m on: #mouseMove send: #mouseMovePitch:event:noteMorph: to: self; on:

Re: [Pharo-project] FMSound bass1 play

2013-03-10 Thread stephane ducasse
. soundbank add: #clearAnswer - FMSound marimba. and to play: (soundbank at: aSoundSymbol) play. Works fine. Phil 2013/3/10 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr: In fact I get really unpredictable behavior. Sometimes I can produce a sound sometimes not. SoundService

Re: [Pharo-project] what do we do with SoundService?

2013-03-10 Thread stephane ducasse
That's why sound matters in the core of Pharo. And Beeper may be interesting too. yes! what I mean is that to have Beeper is not a problem to me. But I see what pavel means: no need for SoundSystem and Beeper. Phil 2013/3/10 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr: Sounds ok

Re: [Pharo-project] MorphicEventHandler behavior.

2013-03-10 Thread stephane ducasse
Guillermo can you try if the following method works with you? I folded the external register inside each note. Stef buildKeyboard | wtWid bkWid keyRect octavePt nWhite nBlack | self removeAllMorphs. wtWid := 8. bkWid := 5. self extent: 10@10. 1 to:

Re: [Pharo-project] Porting SmaCC from 1.4 to 2.0; doSilently: equivalent ?

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
I can. I'll try to make sure I test it with a larger set of tests next, but, so far, the only change I had to do was that doSilently: thing. Now, would anyone has a nice configuration showing how to customize for Pharo 2.0/Pharo 1.4 ? The idea is that you have your baseline and

Re: [Pharo-project] Help with MenuMorph

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
In fact I see that the problem is more into how can I specify a menu item which returns a value that I specify without passing a symbol ((7 to: 10) collect: [:n | 2 raisedTo: n]) do: [:r | aMenu add: r printString action: r].

Re: [Pharo-project] Code review tools?

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 11, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/3/11 Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com On 11 March 2013 13:34, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: i am very happy that github exists.. and its features available only if you put code there.. but if

Re: [Pharo-project] Code review tools?

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
i am very happy that github exists.. and its features available only if you put code there.. but if code is not on github, then what you will do? To rephrase the question: what do we still need to do before we can integrate (something like) github into a standard Smalltalk workflow?

Re: [Pharo-project] Code review tools?

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
Sorry I do not have the time to discuss. Busy writing report. Our goal is to make sure that people can use Pharo to build real application. Of course we would love to be as big as ruby and have 1000 of contributors. So far this is not the case so … Still by focusing on key assets we are making

[Pharo-project] Fwd: Code review tools?

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
Do you know when monticello was invented? and working for real? Around 2004-2005 as far as I remember. And working for real at that very moment, I guess. Why? because pay attention when you talk about smalltalker reinventing the wheel. So far with this argument we could say that we

Re: [Pharo-project] Help with MenuMorph

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
execution and selector). Stef Jannik 2013/3/11 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr In fact I see that the problem is more into how can I specify a menu item which returns a value that I specify without passing a symbol ((7 to: 10) collect: [:n | 2 raisedTo: n

Re: [Pharo-project] Geometric model in Pharo

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 11, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Tristan Bourgois tristan.bourg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I'm actually doing my final-year internship in Thalès and I'm porting an application, for creating UI, from VisualWorks to Pharo (Using Athens :). The problem is they use a geometric model already

Re: [Pharo-project] Porting SmaCC from 1.4 to 2.0; doSilently: equivalent ?

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
then you add symbolic version stable: spec symbolicVersion: #'stable' spec for: #'common' version: '1.1'. spec for: #'pharo1.4.x' version: '1.4' spec for: #'pharo2.0.x' version: '1.8' Have a look at the metacello chapter Done, but then I had a segfault

Re: [Pharo-project] Code review tools?

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 March 2013 16:39, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Do you know when monticello was invented? and working for real? Around 2004-2005 as far as I remember. And working for real at that very

Re: [Pharo-project] Code review tools?

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/3/11 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr: because pay attention when you talk about smalltalker reinventing the wheel. So far with this argument we could say that we should all use eclipse because

Re: [Pharo-project] Code review tools?

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: i am very happy that github exists.. and its features available only if you put code there.. but if code is not on github, then what you will do? To rephrase the question: what do we still need to do before we can

Re: [Pharo-project] Code review tools?

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 March 2013 17:54, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: pff... really people... i am thinking how to streamline our existing development process.. and instead i hear once again about git. Camillo needs to

Re: [Pharo-project] Help with MenuMorph

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks Jannik. I was thinking that - we could have a different MenuItem class: ValuedMenuItem - that a add:value: in MenuMorph could create an instance of this ValuedMenuItem Like that we can integrate both nicely. What do you think? Stef On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:33 PM,

Re: [Pharo-project] Help with MenuMorph

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
; getStateSelector: stateSymbol; enablementSelector: enableSymbol. ^ self addMenuItem: item. :) On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:36 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Thanks Jannik. I was thinking that - we could have a different MenuItem class: ValuedMenuItem

Re: [Pharo-project] Help with MenuMorph

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
Jannik It works :) I will produce a cs because this is a nice extension :) Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] where to report vm crashes? (while running Moose tests)

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks doru! Hi, Where should I report Pharo VM crashes with Pharo 2.0? here first :) In particular, I wanted to report the problem related to running Moose tests from the command line: --- You can reproduce it on Mac, quite consistently: just run the attached script (you need

Re: [Pharo-project] Help with MenuMorph

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
Now I have the problem that I do not know how to get the value from the menu and not the menu item morph setFFTSize Set the size of the FFT used for frequency analysis. | aMenu sz on | aMenu := MenuMorph new title: ('FFT size (currently {1})' translated format:{fft

Re: [Pharo-project] Help with MenuMorph

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
perform: selector withArguments: (arguments copyWith: evt)]]. self changed]. On Mar 11, 2013, at 10:06 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Now I have the problem that I do not know how to get the value from the menu and not the menu item morph setFFTSize

Re: [Pharo-project] Code review tools?

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
Camillo needs to hit you around the head with a command line. You haven't used it. You've heard several people who have used both Monticello and git extensively say that git beats the crap out of Monticello. Go and learn git properly. THEN come back and maybe we can have a conversation. I

Re: [Pharo-project] Help with MenuMorph

2013-03-11 Thread stephane ducasse
The problem is that selectedValue will not work on other menuItem :) So I'm playing with something like that. setFFTSize Set the size of the FFT used for frequency analysis. | aMenu sz on | aMenu := MenuMorph new title: ('FFT size (currently {1})' translated format:{fft

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