Bill said
n.p. Monte Warden advance I got lucky and snagged yeaterday...
How does it sound?
Dina
It is great to see that there are a large amount of people out
there talking about this "kind" of music, whatever you choose to
call it. This is a great list, but I dont have enough time to keep
up, please "Unsubscribe" me from the list
Thanks - Pete Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry - that was a personal message
DOHHH!
Actually publish it to the list please. Everyone is so cool about deleting
the excesses/repeats off their posts. cool, but wish I had seen it the
first time.
Unfortunately, of late, I wouldn't agree. Let's get it together folks,
especially some of the new guys and gals. Glad
Regarding PJ Harvey: I wouldn't necessarily disagree as to including "To
Bring You My Love" on the list. I believe it shows a fine line between
anger and sensuality much that love and hate are often equated. "Down By
The Water" is one of those primevil songs which, with the haunting
drumline,
At 01:44 PM 2/23/1999 Don wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, William F. Silvers wrote:
Of a lot more interest to me than some other guy's list is what *our*
list would be. I'm enough of a list/top 10 geek to have already been
thinking about what my top 10/20/50 of the decade are. If there's any
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
can I inquire about something that puzzles me from time to time? How
come we (the
collective P2 mindset, that is, and maybe most serious music fans in
general)
are quick to slay these writers for their professional opinions every time
we see them but then, at
Meshuggah is just a bunch of fuzz-box metal vocals/guitar in the tradition
of Gwar (satanic-type rock) with a little bit of melodic thrown in to intice
the masses. Influential nineties music? I hardly think so - rehash upon
rehash of a repressed hormonal male puberty gone completely awry.
http://www.salonmagazine.com/ent/music/feature/
Kelly Willis
"What I Deserve"
Rykodisc
Flesh and blood
KELLY WILLIS' NEW ALBUM, "WHAT I DESERVE," IS AN
ANTIDOTE TO THE SLICKNESS THAT'S RUINED COUNTRY
MUSIC.
BY CHARLES TAYLOR |
A few years ago, without
really intending to, I
stopped
Hi everyone,
It's been a while since I've posted here! Hope everyone is doing
well.
Just wanted to pass on that there is an interview with the Nashville
band Lambchop this morning on NPR's Morning Edition.
It was about a 5-7 minute segment- I was impressed with how much time
they gave them.
A few points:
Believe it or not, but I never laid down a blanket rejection of "heavy
arrangements" -- strings, singers, etc. At least not this year g. What I
was saying was in the context of the Bare stuff from the 60s that Chet
Atkins produced. I just didn't think it worked very well, because
I've just been reading Sid Griffin's Gram bio (which is really more of a
collection of interviews, etc.) and I've really enjoyed it. It's raw (and a
little hard to get into, I'd imagine, if you didn't already have some
background on GP ... but who'd buy it if they didn't?), but I particularly
That's the problem with concept albums. While they may work as a whole (and I'm not
sure this one does), it is extremely rare if individual songs hold up on their own.
To have to read liner notes and written material before I can understand how good a
record is or what a great concept
I'm
Terry mentions the outlaw movement... Don't recall a thread on
them, offhand. I loved these guys in a cultural sense but wasn't
real into the rhymthic feel (the "boom-chuck," rhythm as opp to a
swinging rhythm...). I never have understood that rhythm thing...
They were certainly an
Reply to: Re: Concept albums (was: Tom Russell's new one)
Young aka \\\"The Iceman\\\"\" wrote:
Hell, name me 5 concept albums that have worked out well
regardless of genre.
The concept albums by The Kinks worked out very well: "The Village Green Preservation
Society", "Arthur or
Flesh and blood
KELLY WILLIS' NEW ALBUM, "WHAT I DESERVE," IS AN
ANTIDOTE TO THE SLICKNESS THAT'S RUINED COUNTRY
MUSIC.
BY CHARLES TAYLOR |
A few years ago, without
really intending to, I
stopped listening to most
new country music.
When the most
enthusiasm I could
muster for
In a message dated 2/24/99 7:52:00 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Anyway, the copy I'm reading is a loner ... I was wondering if anybody knew
where it might still be available to buy (it's got to be long out of print,
ain't it?)?
There is a small bookstore in Atlanta
Hi folks,
Thought you'd like to know about the last show from the "rockin' banks of the
River Charles" with Greg Reibman (Rockin' With Greg on WMBR, 88.10FM, MIT,
Saturdays from 10-noon). For music fans living in Boston/Cambridge, he's
become an institution of sorts on Saturday mornings. He's
Bill S. said:
It's just sort of tangentially related to this thread Terry, but last week you
were seemingly displeased by the "overproduction" on Dwight's A LONG WAY HOME
record. I was listening to it the other day, and it struck me how well done
("overproduced") the tune "These Arms" is. The
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why do I feel that this negative response to Russell's album was
essentially preordained by the first post on it a month ago declaring it
one of the greatest records of all time? Maybe it's the reverse of the
Lucinda Syndrome.
And isn't it
Concept albums have certainly evolved over time. So I would include
Merle Travis' 1947 "Folk Songs of the Hills" (as well as the later "Songs
of the Coal Mines,"). There's also Johnny Cash's americana albums such as
"Ride This Train," "Bitter Tears," and "Mean as Hell." And I might also
To me, production is like makeup on women; when it draws attention to
itself,
then it's not working.
Terry
Wow!! What a great sentence, do you mind if I steal it? And while I'm not
the only one who agrees with its attention-getting flavor concerning
60's.pop.country.com (I'm pretty sure if
...blushing as I write this,
I've been remiss in welcoming two of Boston's finest to the list, though
fortunately they've had no reluctance about introducing themselves anyway.
Kate Martins is everywhere, with the eclectic taste I could only wish for.
= Obviously, Bob and I are longtime
BY CHARLES TAYLOR |
A few years ago, without
really intending to, I
stopped listening to most
new country music.
When the most
enthusiasm I could
muster for certain new
records was, "Well, it's
not as slick as it might
be," I realized that I had simply stopped
Terry Smith wrote:
A few points:
Believe it or not, but I never laid down a blanket rejection of "heavy
arrangements" -- strings, singers, etc. At least not this year g.
and
(When I discussed Dwight's record, "A Long Way
Home," last week, I wasn't criticizing the production -- I don't
Jon Weisberger wrote:
Am I the only person who thinks that that was the point at which Mr. Taylor
should have considered not writing about new country music? And then to
single out Martina McBride as a noble exception, while backhanding Alison...
What a maroon
I can never understand the
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Joe Gracey wrote:
the RCA release with Waylon and Willie and Tompall and I forget who else
You forgot the gal: Jessie Colter. Now you're gonna have to watch out
for Cheryl Cline.
Will Miner
Denver, CO
In a message dated 2/24/99 11:01:47 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
However, Sgt. Pepper's is not a concept album, even though it is billed as
such,
Wrong!!!
The concept for Sgt. Pepper was based on creating an oldtime sort of big band
that accompanied a traveling
In a message dated 2/24/99 11:27:04 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The company, which started as an Atlanta television station 29 years ago,
now plans to start a cable entertainment network tailored toward the
Southeast. The network will be dubbed Turner South.
Woohoo!!!
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Lowell Kaufman wrote:
So TR's new one is made to rely on more than just the song itself - it is
called a folk-opera after all so view it in the context of an opera.
Uh oh. Not another folking opera.
Will Miner
Denver, CO
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Terry A. Smith wrote:
Nobody's answered my earlier query, vis a vis, if Bobby Bare was thought
to be an inspiration for the early Outlaws -- Shaver and Waylon -- then
what exactly, if anything, was he thought to be an outlaw from? At what
point did he decide to hang
Bob Soron wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, ailin' Joe Gracey wrote:
"Terry A. Smith" wrote:
I think I'm gonna cut my ears off. But first I'll listen to
the best version of Miller's Cave, by Don Williams. -- Terry Smith
The P2 Van Gogh! But check out Charley Pride's version, too.
Barry Mazor wrote:
Yeah, yow. I picked up the "Greatest Hits by Johnnie Jack" cassette tape sold on
the Kitty Wells website, and it's not as
good a selection as that record! The Bear Family Johnnie
Jack box is definitely more of 'em than I'd want, poisonally...
You Johnnie and Jack (and
The concept for Sgt. Pepper was based on creating an oldtime sort of big
band
that accompanied a traveling circus , I think. It most definitely was a
concept album. Read your music history books.
Slim
So, where does "Within You Without You" fit into this context? I didn't
realize mush-mouthed
Hello.
I bought a Merle Haggard box set a few months ago and have greatly
enjoyed it. I recently saw in the Globe that he is coming to the Boston
area in a couple of months and am wondering if he is worth going to see.
What do you guys think? Anyone seen him recently? Would I be wasting
my
I bought a Merle Haggard box set a few months ago and have greatly
enjoyed it. I recently saw in the Globe that he is coming to the Boston
area in a couple of months and am wondering if he is worth going to see.
Yes. He's worth going to see if he isn't doing anything but scratching his
ass,
Because there can never be too much Courtney...
Fogerty, Love Receive Gibson Guitar Awards
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - John Fogerty and Courtney Love clinched top
honors Tuesday at the fifth
annual Orville H. Gibson Awards, bestowed on the music industry's
Reply to: RE: MoMZine February
Hey, I just checked the MOMzine site and I noticed a "Marc Weiss" doing an album
recommendation.
Any relation? And if so, why isn't there a kick-ass, power-trio called the Three
Weissketers floating around?
CD
np: Cotton Mather-contiki
Ndubb wrote:
Melissa Etheridge, Best Female Blues guitarist.
There's a rich giggle.
Who the hell decides these awards?
Kip
Kat - I can't remember exactly (it was in last Sunday's Globe, I
believe) but for some reason I think it's either in Worcester, MA or
Lowell, MA sometime in April. I will look closely at this Sunday's
paper and let you know the details.
Thanks for the ringing endorsement. I will most
Blah blah Merle Haggard blah blah Boston blah blah wondering if he is worth going to
see blah blah
worth going to see if he isn't doing anything but scratching his ass blah blah fine
show.
I'd second what Jon says about him - he's an American treasure. Watching Merle
Haggard in concert
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, William F. Silvers wrote:
Because there can never be too much Courtney...
Love, the rocker/actress whose band, was named best female
guitarist.
She does do a fine job of strumming those power chords, just like curt and
corgan told her to do.
I guess gibson wants
Kip writes: Melissa Etheridge, Best Female Blues guitarist.There's a
rich giggle.
Not as funny as: -- Deana Carter, best female country guitarist.
Does she play with her feet? g
Jim, smilin'
Hey, I just checked the MOMzine site and I noticed a "Marc Weiss" doing an
album recommendation.
Any relation? And if so, why isn't there a kick-ass, power-trio called the
Three Weissketers floating around?
Yes, Marc would happen to be the oldest Weiss brother and original rock critic
in
Kat et al.
Info from Ticketmaster WEB site:
LOWELL MEMORIAL AUD
BIG WORLD PRODUCTIONS
PRESENTS
MERLE HAGGARD
WTHE DON CAMPBELL BAND
SUN APR 18, 1999 7:00PM
Internet Onsale: Jan 8 1998 at 11:00AM
Venue: LOWELL MEMORIAL AUDITORIUM
Primary Act: MERLE HAGGARD
Location: LOWELL, MA
Rebecca writes:
I bought a Merle Haggard box set a few months ago and have greatly
enjoyed it. I recently saw in the Globe that he is coming to the Boston
area in a couple of months and am wondering if he is worth going to
see. What do you guys think? Anyone seen him recently? Would I be
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 Rebecca wrote:
I bought a Merle Haggard box set a few months ago and have greatly
enjoyed it. I recently saw in the Globe that he is coming to the Boston
area in a couple of months and am wondering if he is worth going to see.
What do you guys think? Anyone seen him
Yeh, Merle's an icon and you have to see all your heroes atleast once
BUT when I saw him at the Birchmere in Alexandria, VA last year (a
birthday present from my girlfriend), he and his band didn't exactly knock
themselves out. They played for all of about an hour and the tickets were
At 02:41 PM 2/24/99 -0500, Jon wrote:
Yes, thinking about how to sell records shapes the making of them,
but it generally does so in a more imprecise way; when you get in the
studio, you want to make the best record you can given existing constraints,
whether that's the lack of a piece of
Can anyone give me the skinny on Hot New Country artist Kevin
Sharp? Off-line is fine. Thanks in advance.
Cancer survivor, had a few hits, sophmore album bombed, now without a label
(Asylum let him go). Very pop oriented sound, talk is that he will make a
full on pop album.
Mike Hays
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 24-Feb-99 RE: Hyper produced
Bobby Bare by David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
this whole contemporary ability for an artist to deliberately make an
uncommericial record (I don't WANT lots of people to hear my records, and I
sure as hell don't want a lot of
I haven't played this in a long time, but I remember that the Mekons cut
was outstanding.
Well son, that's a matter of opinion...g
Buddy
Bleeech! Rockets
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
It sucked.
Different strokes, I guess...I loved it, particularly Pet Clarke's Crazy
Horse-ish take on one of the Hot Burritos (I forget which one)...
Steve Kirsch
Of course, Steve, opinions are totally subjective. On the whole I found the
compilation illustrated just how little most of the
Pathways Playlist
WEVL FM 90 Memphis
Tuesdays 6-8 PM
February 23
I normally do not do this show, was subbing for another host, also named
Nancy. It was confusing for the listeners. They got over it. She plays more
folk, pop stuff, so I twanaged it up a bit just for fun.
Ex Husbands - Johnny
Terry wrote:
To me, production is like makeup on women; when it draws attention to
itself,
then it's not working.
Nice phrasing, but I don't buy it: I know what makeup is, but what
exactly is "production" in this sentence? Isn't it pretty much
everything on the recording?
Neal said:
What an interesting list of examples. Might I ask, Steve, since you have
included Snuff and Jerry Holland among UT, Varnaline, And GW, that you tell
me
who the hell they are? I wanna know more.
Snuff is one of my favorite hardcore bands. They basically write pop songs,
but play them
In a message dated 2/24/99 2:14:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In Regards to Merle
if he is worth going to see.
What do you guys think? Anyone seen him recently? Would I be wasting
my time/money?
Rebecca, you have go to be kidding. Go, buy a ticket now. Tell all your
friends.
Has anyone mentioned that when he had cancer the Make A Wish Foundation
introduced him to his hero, I think it was David Foster. Anyway, David helped
him later with getting a deal.
Speaking of those damn no good country pop singers, I was wondering if
anyone knows of a good Foley collection on disc. Thanks. --david cantwell
Steve said:
Cape Breton was settled by Scots a long time ago and since it is a
small island off the beaten path many of the traditions there have
remained. Stepdancing, fiddling and piano are the biggies. I'm don't
claim to be an expert on the region or anything, but I am going there
on
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, David Cantwell wrote:
Speaking of those damn no good country pop singers, I was wondering if
anyone knows of a good Foley collection on disc. Thanks. --david cantwell
MCA's Country Music Hall Of Fame Foley disc is pretty outstanding.--don
Here's the results of the Village Voice's annual Pazz Jop critics' poll.
Note who's right on top where she belongs.g You'll find the singles and
reissues lists (along with various essays and ballots) at:
http://www.villagevoice.com/specials/pazznjop/
Top Albums:
1 Lucinda Williams Car
Amen to that - I hated their "contribution" nearlyas much as the Bob Mould
one - and I love Bob and The Mekons - go figure. I guess they were just
steppin' on my toes.
Junior Walker
--
From: Budrocket[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Don Yates wrote:
Here's the results of the Village Voice's annual Pazz Jop critics' poll.
Note who's right on top where she belongs.g
Thanks Don- been wondering when that was coming out.Deciphering Christgau's
comments reviewing the results is always head-scratching good fun. g
b.s.
Of course, Steve, opinions are totally subjective. On the whole I
found the
compilation illustrated just how little most of the bands included
really
understand traditional country music, which where Gram took his
inspiration
where most of his recorded output was based from.
Yeah, I think I
There is a small bookstore in Atlanta called Acapella Books that carries it.
They are located on Euclid Avenue in the Little Five Points area. Not sure if
they have a website, but you could call information and get the # . The
owner's name is Frank, and he is a great guy.
My sister just
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Joe Gracey listed some of Jack Clement's work:
Johnny Cash
Jerry Lee Lewis
Charley Pride (he shared production duties, and his stuff is the best by far)
The Stoneman Family
John Hartford
Townes
Inspiration for the Don Williams/ Crystal Gayle early 70s sound
Louie
One time I was running sound for The Lettermen (you know, "There's a Summer
Place..."), and since they were more entertainment than music (a few gags
thrown in about their age, blah, blah, blah), another stagehand and myself had
to run around to our friends that afternoon to find an acoustic
Terry). In any event, if Bare was looked at as a model by Jennings or
others, that's news to me. I'd say that he got put in the outlaw category,
to the extent that he did, more because of, er, lifestyle choices, an
interest in doing material by some left-of-center writers like Guy Clark and
Hey Terry, no matter how far down I scrolled on your last post, I couldn't
find your usual PS. Did you forget? No one packs more into a PS than you
do, and they're usually the most interesting points made by anyone all day.
--david cantwell
PS: Mike Ireland finished tied for #241 on the Pazz
Hey, the guy's an artist. he's got principles.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: Gag reflex
One time I was running sound for The Lettermen (you know, "There's a
At 12:23 PM 2/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
Reply to: RE: MoMZine February
Hey, I just checked the MOMzine site and I noticed a "Marc Weiss" doing an
album recommendation.
Any relation? And if so, why isn't there a kick-ass, power-trio called the
Three Weissketers floating around?
Because
Wednesday's winner of a copy of 'Ghost's of Hallelujah' by The Gourds
is:
Larry Slavens (Des Moines, IA)
We'll be giving away a copy a day until Friday, so if you want to
register just go to:
www.allegro-music.com/gourds
'Ghosts of Hallelujah' is released on March 9 but is for pre-release
Howdy,
Here's a quick look ahead at some of the concerts, shows, and random live
performances available to visitors in the area. Information is arranged, for
your convenience, by city. No, this ain't comprehensive. Standard
disclaimers apply, etc.
Bristol, TN/VA
The Narrow Way -- February 25 --
Marie said:
Does anyone else hear
strains of the Minutemen in Hadacol? There was something
vaguely familiar about the vocals. I thought that it might be X,
but then it hit me - D Boone. Am I crazy? Does anyone else
hear it?
I only hear D. Boon in the way they sing the first line of Somebody
Bob Soron wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Joe Gracey listed some of Jack Clement's work:
Johnny Cash
Jerry Lee Lewis
Charley Pride (he shared production duties, and his stuff is the best by far)
The Stoneman Family
John Hartford
Townes
Inspiration for the Don Williams/ Crystal
Howdy,
Here's the deal...
As I've often unashamedly proclaimed, I am the proud owner of a Dollywood
Gold Pass. In addition to earning the undying respect of my fellow P2-ers,
the Gold Pass also grants me the ability to buy Dollywood Concert Tickets in
advance at a nice discount.
If anyone
Hey Carl, if you sank that far you probably noticed that six critics voted for
5 Chinese Brothers' 1996 release "Let's Kill Saturday Night." um. I don't
think so.
Linda
At 08:11 PM 99-02-24 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Carl, if you sank that far you probably noticed that six critics voted
for
5 Chinese Brothers' 1996 release "Let's Kill Saturday Night." um. I don't
think so.
Linda
I saw this error while checking out my own ballot this afternoon, and
I don't think I've ever heard a more self-congratulatory, smug,
preaching-to-the-choir
routine played out so effectively, at least in the press. Williams
smothers her every
note with affect, with shapeliness, with semaphored irony.
Greil Marcus
Berkeley, California
What the hell does that mean,
There's always gotta be one killer schedule night down there--and this time
it's gotta be Friday for P2 types.
All at once (more or less) now:
Austin Music Hall:
Jim Lauderdale, Continental Drifters, Patty Griffin, Robert Earl Keen,
Lucinda Williams
Broken Spoke:
Hillbilly Idol,
So who's going to make it for these two NYC shows this week:
Thursday night:
Elena Skye Demolitions and those Ghost Rockets at Rodeo Bar.
(I really hope to get there, but don't know if deadlines will let me not be
at work too early Friday to do it...Hope so.. Others oughta catch
this
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 24-Feb-99 Another good quote
from the.. by Brad Bechtel@macromedia.
For every Lucinda there are 50 Freakwaters
I wish. I liked Springtime a lot more than Car Wheels (or for that
matter, disc #4 by Billy Bragg Wilco). It's interesting that Lauryn
Nice list, Barry. If I make it, you'll find me at the Spoke!!
--junior
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, Sgt. Pepper's is not a concept album, even though it is billed as
such,
Wrong!!!
The concept for Sgt. Pepper was based on creating an oldtime sort of big band
that accompanied a traveling circus , I think. It most definitely
Terry says:
This also makes sense, though I'd add that there's a continuum on this
line -- how much do I compromise in order to get listened to -- that's a
matter of degree. Some people compromise everything; some less; some don't
have to. But you've gotta admit that there's a point that you
George still plays in his live shows...
He wasn't using it on the episodes of his TV show I saw last season. Maybe
it's an intermittent kind of thing...
Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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