Thus spake David Dahl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I cannot get qmail to startup properly:
Just read the manual and follow the instructions.
shutdown and error:
=
[root@mckenna bin]# /etc/init.d/qmailctl stop
Stopping qmail...
qmail-smtpd
svc:
Thus spake Bymark, Jan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I want my Qmail to be able only to send mail, NOT recieve. My smtp server is
a MS Exchange, but that shouldn't be a problem, I hope. I've been looking at
following control files:
What madness is this?!
Why would you have qmail deliver through
Thus spake Henning Brauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and
disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and
I don't know what hard can I buy? :)
Kindly ignoring that this is dicussed a thousand times in the
I'm asking because I consider porting qmail to IPv6.
Before someone tells me: I know KAME did a patch. I am not satisfied
with their work.
Felix
Thus spake GARGIULO Eduardo INGDESI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
How can I tell tcpserver to relay clients connected
from an interface instead of ip addresses?
You bind one tcpserver on each interface and give the one on the
relay-enabled interface a rule set that always matches.
It's that easy.
Thus spake Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Er, what's the chance of have a ps which compares qmail-popd,
qmail-smtp and qmail-remote then? Kinda relevant doncha think?
You are right. This is a diet libc pop3:
USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
leitner 3232 0.4
I recently did a few updates to my diet libc
(http://www.fefe.de/dietlibc/) and it can now compile and link qmail.
Since the diet libc can also compile and link openssl, the STARTTLS
patch also works.
What's the difference, you ask? This ps listing is on a box with qmail
dynamically linked
Thus spake Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
JA Not quite. More like someone inspects your free car and finds a button
JA that can make it explode. Maybe he pushes the button, maybe not. Maybe he
JA pushes the button on someone else's car. Are you willing to take that
JA risk? I can imagine two
Thus spake Michael Geier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
does anyone know why this might be crashing??? Thanks for the help.
Crist, since when do people have a email sending allowance who don't
know the difference between the compiler gave me an error message and
my computer crashed?!
Go play with your
Thus spake Patrick Starrenburg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
=
*Test email*
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 6078 invoked from network); 13 May 2001 **18:56:24** -
[[[ Where does 18: come from ??]]]
Received: from
Thus spake Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Am I the only one that this is bugging? According to the headers, someone
at the University of Illinois needs to check their machines out.
The University of Illinois is where this mailing list is hosted.
Thus spake Robin S . Socha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
|Please direct any questions regarding Qmail, dot-forward, fastforward,
|and/or EZMLM to Dan Bernstein .
Bet they'll never publish my comments...
I particularly dislike the comment about Solaris and you having to move
cc to cc.sol. What kind
begin Frank wrote 644
|grep -iE 'microsoft|eudora' |wc -l
1757
I wonder if it would change some MUA's behaviour or the selection
criteria of some IT managers if some big lists/list providers would
start to block mail from certain MUAs for self defense.
For sure it would bring the
Thus spake Robert Mudryk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
If you noticed, all the Virii Reject Messages are from Exchange
Servers... QMAIL anti-Virus Scanning like qmail-scanner says [This
message was _not_ sent to the originator, as they appear to be a
mailing-list or other automated Email message]
Thus spake Dan Newcombe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
So, that is three patches I can think of that I need. Something has me
worried that they are gonna start interferring.
Why don't you also add a web browser to checkpassword?
After all, everybody needs a web browser, right?
Sheesh.
Thus spake Johan Almqvist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I wonder if anyone has written a real "bouncesaying" (qmails bouncesaying
just exits with an exit code that makes qmail-local do the actual
bouncing.
And what is your problem with that?
Felix
Thus spake Jacques Frip' WERNERT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
ok, on my Solaris, the qmail distribution is "forking" almost 10 to 20
processes per second.
Solaris is shunned for its incredibly bad fork performance.
Install Sparc-Linux or some BSD variant if that is a problem for you.
So I'm trying
Thus spake Mark Delany ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
If all he's trying to achive is reduce forking on his Solaris box, I
concur. However if we generalize the question, I don't know that I'd
draw the same conclusion.
If any area of qmail would benefit for threading, it might be the
remote delivery
Thus spake Jocelyn Clement ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Anybody has any luck or experience with this OS.
What kind of question is this?
Why don't you just try and see if it works?
ARGH!
Felix
Thus spake David Benfell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
do with it except try to unsubscribe, as I have. But Debian doesn't
use a rational mailing list manager. I try to follow its directions
and I still get mail from the lists. I want this killed.
Hundreds of people subscribe and unsubscribe on
Thus spake Stefaan A Eeckels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
The European Commission just installed a new mail system based on
MS Exchange.
If you ask me, they deserve it.
Everyone deserves the software he is using.
AFAIK, NATO is using Exchange, too.
May their pain be barely sufferable.
Felix
Thus spake Andy Bradford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
While courier-imap isn't coded in the same style that DJB uses, I do
believe that it has been built with security in mind.
That is not sufficient.
Windows is also built with security in mind, according to Microsoft.
I have not done a code audit of
Thus spake Henning Brauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
exit 0
^^
everything behind exit will never be executed. exit 0 should be the last
line in your script.
# Starts Apache Web Server
/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start
# Starts Qmail Under TCPSERVER
tcpserver -v -u 1010 -g
Thus spake Piotr Kasztelowicz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
If you want to use bloated, unreliable, immensely fat software with a
Where I have written, that EACH patch? Only USEFUL patch.
The world goes forward!
There is no objective measure for the usefulness of a patch.
Thus, there will be endless
Thus spake Kris Kelley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
If you want to use bloated, unreliable, immensely fat software with a
nice author who will include every patch anyone sends him, switch to
Exim. I mean it! Please go away and use Exim. It has all the features
anyone could ever want from an
Thus spake David Dyer-Bennet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Why? Because a patch implies that something is wrong, and needs to be
fixed. However, when someone produces a "patch" for smtp-auth, that
implies that qmail-smtpd has a problem that the patch fixes. I'd
rather see people steal the
Thus spake Piotr Kasztelowicz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Perhaps then the only change necessary is to change the semantics of the
qmail.org site? Instead of "so-and-so has written a patch to...", change
it to "addition" or "add-on" or whatever.
Qmail ver 1.03 does not already "young" software.
Thus spake Russell Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
In a perfect world, QMTP would require that a qmtpd accept
VERP-formatted envelope senders. And qmail would collate remote
deliveries by hostname, and dump all copies of a piece of email to all
the recipients at once. I have customers for whom
Thus spake Henning Brauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
This is completely false. smtp-poplock doesn't require patching the
qmail source. You can find a link to it on www.qmail.org.
This is a smtp after pop solution, no SMTP AUTH. SMTP AUTH is an SMTP
protocol extension allowing clients to
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
FreeBSD 4.2: 300 Sec
FreeBSD 4.0: 70 Sec
SuSE Linux : 6 Sec
/var/qmail/lock/trigger has the right permission settings!
I'm sure something is wrong with *MY* FreeBSD Setup!!
Linux mounts the disk asyncronously.
Your FreeBSD 4.0
How to set spam control on mail() function. We allow use mail() for our free
hosting. How to set limit use mail() (PHP v4.0.3pl1).
Method's of QMAIL plz.
Forget it.
php allows users to open sockets and send mails without using qmail at
all.
Felix
Thus spake Einar Bordewich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
We have been using qmail-scanner several months now, I can highly recomend
this solution. We are splitting the load on two dual PIII 700 proc. servers
with 512MB each.
Virus scanners don't solve the problem.
http://www.fefe.de/antivirus/42.zip
Thus spake Greg Cope ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Has anyone any empirical evidence for the speed increases I may expect
(as opposed to a fast EIDI (ATA 66, 8.5ms seek) or SCSI system (eg 10k,
5.3 ms seek 25mb/s) ?
Why would you expect a speed increase at all?
And even if there were one, would anyone
Thus spake Alex Kramarov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Maybe I am asking on the wrong forum, but boes anybody know, if there
is a "developer" version of qmail sources with at lease some remarks
and functionality description in the code so it would be more readable
? Or if there is a site that has some
Thus spake Brett Randall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Hi all, I did a bit of a search in the archives but with no answer to
this interesting question.
My boss wants to relay all outgoing mail which has large attachments
through our other, less used, connection to the Internet. I don't mind
placing
Thus spake Brett Randall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Use an smtproute and write a small filter that looks at the size and
injects the mail at the proper server.
Need I say that is kind of obvious... In fact that's basically
condensing my original e-mail into a sentence (well done!) But HOW is
Thus spake martin langhoff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
this is not reasonable.
Please do be kind with your fellow admins even if they do things you
wouldn't do. Dropping a bomb such as that, *knowingly* is very
unfriendly. No one deserves being crashed by a prankster, and nobody is
Thus spake Jean Caron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
First question, I have to move my mail server behind my firewall (it was
in front until now). My goal is to have the firewall accept all mail for
the domain, and forward "everything" "as is" to the mail server, inside.
A dumb relay, is all I need.
Thus spake Stuart Young ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I disagree with the assertion that virus scanners are non-solutions. On
the mail servers I run, I have installed some simple virus scanning
software, and it has, up to now, filtered out lots of incoming virii and
trojans, as well as a few
Thus spake Milen Petrinski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
This is the biggest lie of computing: that there is no choice.
Everyone has hundreds of options, but the American culture apparently
revolves around taking the wrong choice, blaming it on circumstances and
whining about the consequences.
rom: Felix von Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AntiVirus!
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I've been thinking of a scheme in which attachments of certain
"dangerous" types get mangled, such that the filenames or types
are intentionally misdeclared. So the user ends up with a plain
base64 text file, which is meaningless, but which
Thus spake Milen Petrinski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
People will allways use Windows, no matter what the sysadmins say.
Then ignore that minority group and don't prolong their agony by giving
them access to non-solutions like virus scanners.
The "lusers" want buttons, F1 and plug'n'play.
Buttons
Thus spake John W. Lemons III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I disagree with the assertion that virus scanners are non-solutions. On the
mail servers I run, I have installed some simple virus scanning software,
and it has, up to now, filtered out lots of incoming virii and trojans, as
well as a few
Thus spake John W. Lemons III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Trapped poisoned executable "LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs".
We didn't get a single infected machine. The mail server stopped all
of them.
True. But you owe the awestruck audience an explanation of what happened
to that attachment. Anomy
Thus spake Adam McKenna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I find it astonishing that people don't sue Microsoft for this.
A whole industry thrives on Microsoft's bad code quality.
They can't sue microsoft. They "accepted" a license that says Microsoft
isn't responsible blah blah blah.
The old lady who
Thus spake Lipscomb, Al ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
As long as people run Windows, there will be a virus and
trojan problem.
And Unix is immune to Trojans and worms?
Unix is so heterogenous that it is next to impossible to write a
portable exploit. It will of course always be possible to exploit
Thus spake Lipscomb, Al ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
See the words "TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW". There are lots of
places in this world where the law says the person who wrote it or the
person who gave it to you can be held liable no matter what they want to
disclaim. It depends on
Thus spake John W. Lemons III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Based on the fact that your virus scanner detected a few outgoing virii,
you assert not only that it has detected all of them.
Please quote where I indicated perfection.
You said that you are happy that you have not become one of the places
Thus spake asantos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
For this setup, using mysql is even more stupid than in general.
mysql adds tons of unnecessary complexity to the system and wastes system
resources.
Don't whine. Be consistent. Grow up. Have your mama spank you, it's good for
the soul (tough *you*
Thus spake Jamin Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I write good software.
Others help me.
The software gets better.
This is a very selfish view. Based on these statements, you only care about
software in so much as you can gain from it. This is a key difference
between you and I.
When I do that, Qmail can't send and log::
Failure: I_(qmail-remote)_was_invoked_improperly._(#5.3.5)/
1. learn how to quote
2. if you change stuff without understanding it, and that results in
problems for you, tough luck.
Read the fucking man page for qmail-remote. It clearly states
I am going to setup a dedicated linux box that will run qmail only. What is
the most minimum package that I need to install from Red Hat 7.0 to be able
to run Qmail? I do not want unnecessary services/daemons running on that
box. I will also be installing the web based email package that
Thus spake Wesley Wannemacher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
To get everything running I used the following packages to
get everything running:
qmail-src
courier-imap
apache-php3
horde
imp
mysql-server
horde is completely superfluous.
If you run a web based
Thus spake Visar Emini ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I have qmail vpopmail running on Linux machine and I was thinking on
installing an antivirus on my mailserver, does anyone have any suggestions
about this issue?!
Forget it.
Anti virii don't work.
They also introduce new security problems.
Felix
Thus spake Mate Wierdl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I just read
http://cr.yp.to/im2000.html
The ideas there seem extremely demoralizing for somebody trying to
write an MTA for the traditional mail infrastructure.
Why do you say that?
This does not look demoralizing at all to me.
In particular,
Thus spake Mark Delany ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
http://cr.yp.to/proto/mxps.txt
Several people have.
But it is not worth the bother until a noticable part of the Internet
uses it.
Shades of the question I used to get when installing a web server:
"Why would you bother until a noticable part
Thus spake asantos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I find MySQL to be reliable and stable.
Good luck to you, then.
You will need it.
I only keep logs for 6 months, so in
the last 6 months I've had MySQL 3.22.23 running for vpopmail-3.4.11-2 over
qmail-1.03+ezmlm-0.53, managing more than 260 virtual
Thus spake Jerry Keene ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Like Felix I'm skeptical about the value of general anti-virii programs
running as gatekeepers on Linux servers.
Please email yourself an email with http://www.fefe.de/antivirus/42.zip
as attachment. Either your antivirus is thorough and DoSses your
Thus spake Matt Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Therefore, signature based scanners CANNOT be a 100% reliable method
for preventing viruses.
Plus, they are a security risk in themselves.
And, they normally even cost money.
Felix, you seem to be of the opinion that anything less than 100%
I may be out of line here.
You are.
You post off-topic bullshit to a mailing list about qmail.
Oh, and you don't even have the decency to comply to the
well-established quoting standards when quoting email from others.
This is not a "I am willing to help dumb idiots" mailing list.
This is
Thus spake Jessica U. Gothie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I agree that people attempting to install and run mail servers should be
fairly technically clued, comfortable with the OS the mail server stuff is
to be installed on, and able to read/understand documentation. In an ideal
world, this would
Thus spake Dave Sill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I'm not a big fan of newbie smackdowns, though a repeat offendor might
warrant one. I think newbies generally respond better to reward than
punishment. E.g., instead of:
This is a question that I have asked numerous times and I never got a
good
How exactly is my MUA broken?
Your MTA is not so broken that it could not be fixed if you actually
understood what you are doing. Robin chose to be more polite to you
than you are to us, so he rather wrote that it's your MUA's fault.
Telling someone to RTFM would be helpful, if the manual
Thus spake Barley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Man, this Robin character is nuts. Coder-superiority syndrome big time. Why
is it that tech geeks are so sure that their field of knowledge is the only
one that indicates general intelligence?
Hahaha, you idiot can't even be bothered to use a search
Thus spake David Dyer-Bennet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
a. are too dumb to state their question properly
(this includes bad grammar, bad spelling, bad quoting and obnoxious
signatures)
Remembering that English is not the first language for everybody; I
make considerably more
Thus spake Malcolm Silberman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I have been watching the many hundreds of lines of silliness over the
last day or so. Folks these arguments make no sense. To me its a case of
the more newbie's the better.
Because, that means more people spread the word, more corporations,
Thus spake Markus Stumpf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
- who has the highest crime rate in "western civilation"
- where it is forbidden to show naked breasts (you know the things you got
your first meal from in your life) on TV, but it is prefectly ok
to broadcast a detailed sequence of a
Thus spake Barley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
And that they all talk sweepingly of "genetic superiority"? I thought I was
the only one who noticed...
It was you who brought that term up.
Felix
Thus spake Raul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Picking up a leaflet does not involve making a copy of it.
Pulling something off of a web site involves creating a copy on your
local machine.
Please enlighten me: who bullshitted you Americans into believing that
one needs a license to use
Thus spake Mate Wierdl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I thought it was possible that Dan would give some hints on his view
on secure programming in these notes.
Don't talk.
Read his code and you will understand.
Software is secure iff the architecture and trust model is sound, which
you can verify
Thus spake Mate Wierdl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Not really. There are many examples to the contrary---quoted in the
book. For example, there were buffer overflows discovered in Kerberos
which had been in the code for 10 years, or Mailman had glaring
security flows no one noticed for three
Thus spake Mate Wierdl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Indeed, it would be interesting what kind of testing he is running on
qmail, say (he says there are over 100 tests), and how he is trying to
make sure his software is secure. Perhaps his closed to the public
cryptography course notes would give a
Thus spake Robin S. Socha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
No. Any audit worth doing would be prohibitively expensive for a
freeware project. $1000 wouldn't even begin to cover it, at least for
qmail.
Doesn't the fact that they are included in OpenBSD (as ports) hint at
the fact that some of the
Maybe I can simplify the issue here by asking a question:
Is it the consensus here that the following is RFC822 compliant:
defaultdomain: empty
QMAILDEFAULTDOMAIN=""
qmail-inject converts you@somewhere - you@somewhere. (note the period)
What kind of experts are you people, anyway?
Hi everyone. I use the pop daemon from qmail (qmail-pop3d) and the
Outlook Express program is making me crazy.
Outlook makes everyone crazy.
Get yourself a real email program.
One that gives meaningful error messages.
What is happening?
Read your log files.
Felix
Thus spake Martin Jespersen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Nice to see that people are able to be constructive around here *pats Felix on his
little head*
While we are talking about "constructive", please construct yourself a
gut and shoot yourself, idiot.
Felix
OK, It would appear as if I've just found the first (and lets hope
last) error in my spam elimination technique/code. In
~usenet/.qmail-default, the references regex will only work if the
message ID is on the same line as the References: string. I've
modified the regex (and code) to allow
I created a mailing list for discussions about my planned init system,
minit (the name is not final yet. Maybe someone comes up with a better
one?).
So, if you were waiting for a place to voice your wishes for a small yet
feature-complete init system, please send an empty email to
[EMAIL
I have made available statically linked x86-linux binaries for tcpserver
and tcpclient from ucspi-tcp with my IPv6 patch. You can download them
from
http://www.fefe.de/ucspi/x86-linux-ucspi-tcp.tar.bz2
and my gpg sig from
http://www.fefe.de/ucspi/x86-linux-ucspi-tcp.tar.bz2.sig
Why would
Has anyone here used the qmail IPv6 patch?
(http://www.rcac.tdi.co.jp/fujiwara/) What kinds of things worked/didn't
work/needed a little help? Also did the ucspi-tcp tools handle it ok? Or is
there a patch available for them as well? (I can't see anything on the
homepage).
I didn't try the
Thus spake Allama Hicham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I'd like to Install DB library, but when I want to configure it, I have
a message like
"missing strip, No strip utility found"
Where can I found these "strip utility"?
Who cares? qmail does not come with and does not need a "DB library"
that
I see constant disk activity when using daemontools to
monitor qmail.
I don't.
Get yourself a real operating system where the disk cache actually
works. svscan does read-only accesses to /services or wherever you
configured it to look. If that touches your disk each time, your OS
sucks or
Thus spake Brad Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Is there a solution?
I don't see a reason to change anything about this mailing list.
People who ask intelligent questions in a nice way will always be
helped. I have never seen a friendly and intelligent question ridiculed
by people who aren't
I got the virtual domain working, users in the virtual domain are able to
get mail as "user@virtualdomain". How do I stop the user from getting mail
assigned to "user@actualdomain"?
$ echo @actualdomain /var/qmail/control/badmailfrom
You cannot stop internal mails from being delivered to
Thus spake Stephen Bosch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so at great distress I post these lines :
[root@www qmail-1.03]# make setup check
/compile qmail-local.c
In file included from qmail-local.c:1:
/usr/include/sys/types.h:26: features.h: No such file or directory
Thus spake Nathan J. Mehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Solaris 7 does come with a FS that journals metadata, but no one's
ever benchmarked it's performance with a large todo for the list.
Well, like I said, it's not necessarily best-of-breed, it's just
there, which is a big win over the various
Thus spake Nathan J. Mehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Can you please expand on how an inferior file system for Solaris is in
any way "a big win over the various free unixes"? Especially under the
assumption of a constrained budget, please.
Could we please dispense with the flamebait?
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