Re: Newbie question

2001-07-26 Thread Johan Almqvist
* Per-Fredrik Pollnow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010726 09:40]: > I have been looking around on the Inet to see if I could find anything > about how I secure qmail pop3 service, but I don't have a ??? and I don't > find a ???.. > I was wondering if anyone have some good ideas what to use or where I can

Re: Newbie question

2001-07-26 Thread Dushyanth Harinath
qmail-pop3d is far secure..but using it with inet is not recommended...use qmail-pop3d with tcpserver..check the FAQ regarding this... regards dushyanth > Hi, > > I have been looking around on the Inet to see if I could find anything > about how I secure qmail pop3 service, but I don't have a ?

Newbie question

2001-07-26 Thread Per-fredrik Pollnow (EPK)
Hi, I have been looking around on the Inet to see if I could find anything about how I secure qmail pop3 service, but I don't have a ??? and I don't find a ???.. I was wondering if anyone have some good ideas what to use or where I can find some information about securing qmail pop3 etc. (Right

Re: newbie question (it's an easy one i'm sure, but it's not in theFAQ)

2001-06-11 Thread Nick (Keith) Fish
David Talkington wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > John Wolford wrote: > > >qmail is running. > > Nope, not quite ... > > >If i check the ps listing, i see, in part: > >[root@homer init.d]# ps -ef |grep qmail > >root 29806 29805 1 Jun01 ?02:43:31 supervise qmail-p

Re: newbie question (it's an easy one i'm sure, but it's not in theFAQ)

2001-06-11 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- John Wolford wrote: >qmail is running. Nope, not quite ... >If i check the ps listing, i see, in part: >[root@homer init.d]# ps -ef |grep qmail >root 29806 29805 1 Jun01 ?02:43:31 supervise qmail-pop3d >root 29808 29805 0 Jun01 ?00:0

newbie question (it's an easy one i'm sure, but it's not in the FAQ)

2001-06-11 Thread John Wolford
Hi guys, I've installed the mdk (Mandrake) qmail rpm package on my Mandrake 7.2 box. I've got it set up so that it's dealing with local mail quite nicely, and now i'm ready to use fetchmail, which is also installed, to download mail from a pop server. qmail is running. If i check the ps listing,

Re: Newbie question-CJK

2001-06-07 Thread arjen-qmail
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Constantine Koulis wrote: > Dear sir. > > About local delivery i can send from root to local users but from local > users to root nothing.As well i can send from local users and root to > outside world. Where is mail for your local users stored? Do you check ~alias/ for

Re: Newbie question-CJK

2001-06-07 Thread Constantine Koulis
OTECTED]> >CC: "qmail list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Newbie question-CJK >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:14:23 +0200 > >Hi, > > > > > > I can connect POP3 to the unix users but i cannot receive any email. > > When i open the unix-user i

Re: Newbie question-CJK

2001-06-07 Thread Tom Beer
Hi, > > > I can connect POP3 to the unix users but i cannot receive any email. > When i open the unix-user i made his home directory to be : > /home/username. > Is this the correct one for qmail?If not which is? this depends on your configuration, in most cases it is hint: link /var/spool/mail/u

Re: Newbie question-CJK

2001-06-07 Thread arjen-bind
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Constantine Koulis wrote: > I can connect POP3 to the unix users but i cannot receive any email. > When i open the unix-user i made his home directory to be : > /home/username. > Is this the correct one for qmail?If not which is? Yes it is. I think you should first tell us

Newbie question-CJK

2001-06-07 Thread Constantine Koulis
Hello all. I am niebie to qmail but untill now i am happy. I have some questions : I can connect POP3 to the unix users but i cannot receive any email. When i open the unix-user i made his home directory to be : /home/username. Is this the correct one for qmail?If not which is? Another thing

Re: Re: newbie question

2001-05-29 Thread Santosh Pasi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: newbie question >Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:16:59 +0200 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi, > >please mail an exploit of /var/log/qmail/current >and we'll see... > >Tom

Re: newbie question

2001-05-29 Thread Charles Cazabon
Ian Truelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It passes all the internal tests, but I am not able to get anything from > outside the local machine. Okay. Lots of possible causes for that one. > All I get when I try to email my machine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] is > messages from the mail daemon whe

Re: newbie question

2001-05-29 Thread Tom Beer
Hi, please mail an exploit of /var/log/qmail/current and we'll see... Tom - Original Message - From: "Ian Truelsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:38 AM Subject: newbie question > I just installed qmail under Re

newbie question

2001-05-28 Thread Ian Truelsen
I just installed qmail under RedHat 7.1 It passes all the internal tests, but I am not able to get anything from outside the local machine. I know I have not set something up properly, or failed to set something up, but I can't figure out what it is that is wrong. All I get when I try to email

RE: newbie question with concurrency remote

2001-05-11 Thread Michael Geier
, 2001 12:30 PM To: Qmail Mailing List Subject: Re: newbie question with concurrency remote "Michael Geier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am running qmail on: > RedHat 6.2 > 256 Mb Ram > >I set concurrency remote = 150... > >however, most of the

Re: newbie question with concurrency remote

2001-05-11 Thread Charles Cazabon
Michael Geier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I set concurrency remote = 150... > > however, most of the time, it seems like only a handful of remote processes > are running, even though the queue backs up (right now, over 14000 msgs in > queue and only 20 remote processes running)... Most likel

Re: newbie question with concurrency remote

2001-05-11 Thread Dave Sill
"Michael Geier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am running qmail on: > RedHat 6.2 > 256 Mb Ram > >I set concurrency remote = 150... > >however, most of the time, it seems like only a handful of remote processes >are running, even though the queue backs up (right now, over 14000 msgs in

newbie question with concurrency remote

2001-05-11 Thread Michael Geier
I am running qmail on: RedHat 6.2 256 Mb Ram I set concurrency remote = 150... however, most of the time, it seems like only a handful of remote processes are running, even though the queue backs up (right now, over 14000 msgs in queue and only 20 remote processes running)... An

Re: newbie question

2001-04-26 Thread John Hogan
thanks for the off-list advice... i thought i'd let everyone know - building a sym-link from /var/spool/mail/username to ~(username)/Mailbox did the trick... popper must have been looking at the old /var/spool i'll have to figure out a way to change popper and release those nasty sym-links

Re: newbie question

2001-04-26 Thread John Hogan
i was running just regular, old, linux distribution flavored popper... must i switch? - hogan At 09:17 PM 4/26/2001 +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: >On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 01:53:50PM -0500, John Hogan wrote: >> yep, popper's running... >> >> qmail is configured to ~/Mailbox, tests, performs local

Re: newbie question

2001-04-26 Thread John Hogan
yep, popper's running... qmail is configured to ~/Mailbox, tests, performs local delivery and receipt new messages are received in Pine just fine, but not by a remote UA - hogan At 07:42 PM 4/26/2001 +0100, Barry Hill wrote: >Hi John, > > >Thursday, April 26, 2001, 7:16:38 PM, you wrote: > >JH

Re: newbie question

2001-04-26 Thread Charles Cazabon
John Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have qmail all configured, tested and working in a local environment... > when i send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the message is not downloaded by a > third-party UA and is only available at the command line (pine) If NFS is involved, make sure that t

Re: newbie question

2001-04-26 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 01:53:50PM -0500, John Hogan wrote: > yep, popper's running... > > qmail is configured to ~/Mailbox, tests, performs local delivery and receipt What popper? qmail-pop3d only does Maildir. Greetz, Peter.

Re: newbie question

2001-04-26 Thread Barry Hill
Hi John, Thursday, April 26, 2001, 7:16:38 PM, you wrote: JH> i have qmail all configured, tested and working in a local JH> environment... when i send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the JH> message is not downloaded by a third-party UA and is only JH> available at the command line (pine) JH>

newbie question

2001-04-26 Thread John Hogan
i have qmail all configured, tested and working in a local environment... when i send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the message is not downloaded by a third-party UA and is only available at the command line (pine) any ideas? - hogan ___

Re: Qmail newbie question

2001-03-20 Thread Noah Sematimba
Well have you tried to start tcpserver anyway? On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Johnson, Garrett wrote: > Please forgive my ignorance. I'm trying to learn. > > I have set up a secondary Qmail server on RedHat 7.0 and it > seems to have come up without a problem, but I'm having a > hair-pulling time tryin

RE: Qmail newbie question

2001-03-19 Thread Johnson, Garrett
SFGH, Dean's Office, School of Medicine -Original Message- From: Chris Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:39 PM To: Johnson, Garrett Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: Qmail newbie question On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 12:19:57PM -0800, Johnson

Re: Qmail newbie question

2001-03-19 Thread Kurth Bemis
At 03:37 PM 3/19/2001, Gerrit Pape wrote: did you read life with qmail? read it at www.lifewithqmail.org. Use the init script from there and you shouldn't have any problems. :-) ~kurth PS - to the list - yes, i know this is what I answer for every answer...however almost every question can

Qmail newbie question

2001-03-19 Thread Johnson, Garrett
Please forgive my ignorance. I'm trying to learn. I have set up a secondary Qmail server on RedHat 7.0 and it seems to have come up without a problem, but I'm having a hair-pulling time trying to test if it works properly. It has passed some basic tests. For instance I can use qmail-inject to

Re: Qmail newbie question

2001-03-19 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 12:19:57PM -0800, Johnson, Garrett wrote: > This is what I get from ps -ef | grep qmail: > > root 503 502 0 Mar16 ?00:00:00 supervise qmail-send > root 505 502 1 Mar16 ?00:54:39 supervise qmail-smtpd > qmaill 507 504 0 Mar16 ?

Re: Qmail newbie question

2001-03-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 12:19:57PM -0800, Johnson, Garrett wrote: > Why isn't tcpserver running (keeping in mind that it isn't passing any email > right now)? Something more disturbing is that when I run mconnect without > arguments I get: > > tcpclient: unable to connect to 127.0.0.1 port 25: c

Re: newbie question on forwarding email

2001-02-22 Thread Charles Cazabon
Virginia Chism <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A Frontpage client wants to publish a form to be received on my server > addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and relayed (forwarded/redirected) to her > personal email address which is not on my server. [...] > Now I have been told that I need to add herdo

newbie question on forwarding email

2001-02-22 Thread Virginia Chism
My server is a UNIX box with BSDI 4.0, Apache, Qmail, and Frontpage. My BSDI and QMail were set up by someone else (no longer with us) and I am pretty much a newbie in this arena A Frontpage client wants to publish a form to be received on my server addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and relayed (fo

Re: Newbie question

2001-01-07 Thread Jeff Lacy
: "Roger Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Qmail Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 5:01 AM Subject: Newbie question > Roger Arnold wrote: > > How do you make a users file using "qmail-pw2u" from your /etc/passwd > file

Newbie question

2001-01-07 Thread Roger Arnold
Roger Arnold wrote: How do you make a users file using "qmail-pw2u" from your /etc/passwd file ? If I execute /var/qmail/qmail-pw2u with no extensions I would have thought that it would have created an assignments file from /etc/passwd, however all that happens is that it goes into never-never l

RE: newbie question. please recommend solution

2000-12-23 Thread Sridhar Balasubramanian
, -sridhar -Original Message- From: Greg Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 6:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: newbie question. please recommend solution > Here is the thing: I DO NOT have a domain YET. SO in my > /etc/hosts file, I added swar

RE: newbie question. please recommend solution

2000-12-23 Thread Greg Owen
> Here is the thing: I DO NOT have a domain YET. SO in my > /etc/hosts file, I added swaru as my machine name. SInce I'm > not part of any network (it's a system at which is soon going > to be a web/mail server), I named my machine swaru (swami + guru :-). I don't know anything about

newbie question. please recommend solution

2000-12-22 Thread sridhar
I'm trying to make qmail under my solaris work. I have solaris 2.8 running on Ultra-2. Now here is scenario: I got the q-mail smtpd working (not the way they say in the documentation -- but it works). Now I'm trying to set up virtual users. I want to use vmailmgr because of the web interface +

Re: newbie question

2000-12-14 Thread Dario Rossi
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Charles Cazabon wrote: CC>The mail transaction above is not an example of (unauthorized) relaying. CC>By putting the domain in rcpthosts, you have told qmail-smtpd "I am willing CC>to accept mail from anyone which has an envelope recipient of CC>[EMAIL PROTECTED]" CC> CC>If

Re: newbie question

2000-12-13 Thread Charles Cazabon
Dario Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CC>You're preventing connections to port 25 completely? CC>Please post the > CC>contents of your smtp.rules file to be more clear on exactly CC>what you > CC>are allowing/disallowing. > > the rule is : > > 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" Okay, you're not deny

Re: newbie question

2000-12-13 Thread Dario Rossi
CC>You're preventing connections to port 25 completely? CC>Please post the contents of your smtp.rules file to be more clear on exactly CC>what you are allowing/disallowing. the rule is : 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" CC> CC>> If i try to do relaying from a host that is not allowed i get the messag

Re: newbie question

2000-12-13 Thread Charles Cazabon
Dario Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for boring you, but i have this problem i cannot understand: > At this point i have a tcpserver at the moment allowing > connections only from localhost. You're preventing connections to port 25 completely? Please post the contents of your smtp.rules

newbie question

2000-12-13 Thread Dario Rossi
Hello all. Sorry for boring you, but i have this problem i cannot understand: I configured qmail with tcpserver following the installation instructions step by step. At this point i have a tcpserver at the moment allowing connections only from localhost. Everything is working fine and i send and r

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-12-01 Thread Scott D. Yelich
On 1 Dec 2000, Matt Brown wrote: > The only problem with doing that is the clueful admins with clueless > management who force everyone to use the Corporate Email Solution, ie > Outlook. Not me right now, but it was me in my last job. Agreed. At my last consulting job... it took over 3 weeks to

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-12-01 Thread Matt Brown
"Aaron L. Meehan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've said enough. Pretty close to adding a rule for *Outlook* and > *Inernet Mail Service* (heh, "Service!") into my .procmailrc, though, > for mails to this list, with the SNR getting so bad among you all. The only problem with doing that is the

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-12-01 Thread Charles Cazabon
Scott D. Yelich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Was the issue about an MX pointing to a CNAME ever resolved? Yes; it's verboten. If you do it, don't expect to receive 100% of the mail people try to send to you. Also; please start a new thread when posting a new question; your message showed up

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-12-01 Thread Anton Pirnat
Just a recommendation.. Book Title: "Pragmatics of Human Communication" Author: Paul Watzlawik a.o. ISBN: 0393010090 and now back to work.. Anton Pirnat

Re: HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Barley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > And that they all talk sweepingly of "genetic superiority"? I thought I was > the only one who noticed... It was you who brought that term up. Felix

Re: HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Markus Stumpf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > - who has the highest crime rate in "western civilation" > - where it is forbidden to show naked breasts (you know the things you got > your first meal from in your life) on TV, but it is prefectly ok > to broadcast a detailed sequence of

Re: HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread Peter Green
* Markus Stumpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001130 20:23]: > Isn't it funny, how *some* people that live in a country and a culture > - that killed thousands of black people [snip] Yeah yeah yeah, at least *we* know that David Hasselhof is talentless. /pg -- Peter Green : Gospel Communications Netwo

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake David Dyer-Bennet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > a. are too dumb to state their question properly > > (this includes bad grammar, bad spelling, bad quoting and obnoxious > > signatures) > Remembering that English is not the first language for everybody; I > make considerably mo

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread rmiddleton
> > Hrm i thought Robin was a woman ;) > > You wouldn't believe how much money we made with that webcam... > -- > Robin S. Socha http://socha.net/ hah! that owns! now smack your dad for the chick's name ;)

RE: HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread Greg Owen
> Isn't it funny, how *some* people that live in a country and a culture > - that killed thousands of black people > - that killed thousands of red indians > - that killed thousands of people with the atomic bomb > - that killed thousands of people in Vietnam You forgot the hundre

Re: HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread Henning Brauer
Am Donnerstag, 30. November 2000 22:21 schrieb Horacio: > On Fri, 01 Dec 2000, Henning Brauer wrote: > > What about writing a rule for your mailer: if ( $sender =~ /.de$/ ) { > > kill mail; }. Then you can happily read all the lusers bullshit > > without being disturbed by us nazis tryin to get wo

Re: HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread Markus Stumpf
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 03:21:40PM -0800, Barley wrote: > > Isn't it interesting that Stumf, Leitner and Socha all come from Germany? > > Just a coincidence, I suppose. > > And that they all talk sweepingly of "genetic superiority"? I thought I was > the only one who noticed... Isn't it funny, h

Re: HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread Horacio
On Fri, 01 Dec 2000, Henning Brauer wrote: > What about writing a rule for your mailer: if ( $sender =~ /.de$/ ) { > kill mail; }. Then you can happily read all the lusers bullshit > without being disturbed by us nazis tryin to get world domination. > Maybe you won't get the 3rd world war announc

Re: HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread asantos
From: Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Isn't it interesting that Stumf, Leitner and Socha all come from Germany? >> Just a coincidence, I suppose. > >What about writing a rule for your mailer: if ( $sender =~ /.de$/ ) { kill >mail; }. Then you can happily read all the lusers bullshit without

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Robin S . Socha
Quoting rmiddleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > > about interacting successfully with the 5 billion other > > > > real-live people on the planet suited for survival in a > > > > Darwinian sense? > > > > You wouldn't say that if you knew how many of us wanted to sleep > > with him. > > Hrm i thou

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread rmiddleton
> > > about interacting successfully with the 5 billion other real-live people on > > > the planet suited for survival in a Darwinian sense? > > You wouldn't say that if you knew how many of us wanted to sleep with him. > > -- > Kate > http://www.katewerk.com > Hrm i thought Robin was a woman ;)

Re: HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread Henning Brauer
Am Freitag, 1. Dezember 2000 00:54 schrieb asantos: > Isn't it interesting that Stumf, Leitner and Socha all come from Germany? > Just a coincidence, I suppose. What about writing a rule for your mailer: if ( $sender =~ /.de$/ ) { kill mail; }. Then you can happily read all the lusers bullshit

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Scott D. Yelich
Was the issue about an MX pointing to a CNAME ever resolved? Scott

Re: HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread Kris Kelley
Barley wrote: > And that they all talk sweepingly of "genetic superiority"? I thought I was > the only one who noticed... Let's see, if USENET history is any indication, flame wars usually die down the moment people start calling each other Nazis. Glad to see this one's almost over. By the way,

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Felix von Leitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 30 November 2000 at 21:27:57 +0100 > Thus spake Dave Sill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I'm not a big fan of newbie smackdowns, though a repeat offendor might > > warrant one. I think newbies generally respond better to reward than > > punishment. E.g

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Barley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 30 November 2000 at 11:30:46 -0800 > > But if you come here, post moronic questions, get beaten for it, and > > then have the audacity to come back and whine publicly, then you are the > > most pathetic creature on Earth and deserve to die slowly and painful

Re: HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread Barley
> Isn't it interesting that Stumf, Leitner and Socha all come from Germany? > Just a coincidence, I suppose. And that they all talk sweepingly of "genetic superiority"? I thought I was the only one who noticed... > > 'nough said. > > Armando > > > > >

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Ricardo Cerqueira
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 09:27:57PM +0100, Felix von Leitner wrote: > Thus spake Dave Sill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I'm not a big fan of newbie smackdowns, though a repeat offendor might > > warrant one. I think newbies generally respond better to reward than > > punishment. E.g., instead of: > >

Re: HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread asantos
From: Markus Stumpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >STOP THIS BULLSHIT. NOW! IT'S ALREADY MORE THAN ENOUGH. "...a dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than a riot. T

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread kate
> Thus spake Barley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > You mentioned Darwinism in a former post, Robin. How exactly is an angry > > geek who knows a whole lot about electronic boxes, but less than nothing > > about interacting successfully with the 5 billion other real-live people on > > the planet suite

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Henning Brauer
Am Donnerstag, 30. November 2000 21:55 schrieb Barley: > You see, you, like Felix, are a rude person who > enjoys trashing newbies. You were the first person to get incredibly nasty > about newbies yesterday, then that joker Robin...now this Felix character. > It seem to me that you angry types fo

HELL, STOP IT (was: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question))

2000-11-30 Thread Markus Stumpf
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 12:55:33PM -0800, Barley wrote: > I think you're worng. STOP THIS BULLSHIT. NOW! IT'S ALREADY MORE THAN ENOUGH. And if you think you must continue, take it to private mail. \Maex

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread John W. Lemons III
how previous newbies are chastised by definition. -Original Message- From: Aaron L. Meehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question) Quoting John W. Lemons III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I&#x

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Barley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Man, this Robin character is nuts. Coder-superiority syndrome big time. Why > is it that tech geeks are so sure that their field of knowledge is the only > one that indicates general intelligence? Hahaha, you idiot can't even be bothered to use a search en

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Aaron L. Meehan
Quoting John W. Lemons III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I've seen this over and over and over. Someone joins the list, probably > because they are having problems (the same reason I joined), posts a > question Back in the day, it was prudent and _neccessary_ to do thorough checking of the forum's arch

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Dave Sill
"Barley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I cannot get over this attitude. Can it really be that the majority of the >qmail community feels like old Felix here? If I say "yes" can we kill this thread? -Dave

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Barley
> Am Donnerstag, 30. November 2000 20:30 schrieb Barley: > > > But if you come here, post moronic questions, get beaten for it, and > > > then have the audacity to come back and whine publicly, then you are the > > > most pathetic creature on Earth and deserve to die slowly and painfully. > > >

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Felix von Leitner
> How exactly is my MUA broken? Your MTA is not so broken that it could not be fixed if you actually understood what you are doing. Robin chose to be more polite to you than you are to us, so he rather wrote that it's your MUA's fault. > Telling someone to RTFM would be helpful, if the manual b

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Dave Sill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I'm not a big fan of newbie smackdowns, though a repeat offendor might > warrant one. I think newbies generally respond better to reward than > punishment. E.g., instead of: This is a question that I have asked numerous times and I never got a good resp

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Henning Brauer
Am Donnerstag, 30. November 2000 20:30 schrieb Barley: > > But if you come here, post moronic questions, get beaten for it, and > > then have the audacity to come back and whine publicly, then you are the > > most pathetic creature on Earth and deserve to die slowly and painfully. > > May the flie

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Barley
> But if you come here, post moronic questions, get beaten for it, and > then have the audacity to come back and whine publicly, then you are the > most pathetic creature on Earth and deserve to die slowly and painfully. > May the flies of a dozen dead camels' asses rest in your armpits! I cannot

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Felix von Leitner
> I may be out of line here. You are. You post off-topic bullshit to a mailing list about qmail. Oh, and you don't even have the decency to comply to the well-established quoting standards when quoting email from others. This is not a "I am willing to help dumb idiots" mailing list. This is mor

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread asantos
From: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Actually, XEmacs is as much of an operating system--probably even >moreso--than early versions of Windows. Me, I'd say that neither is an operating system ;) Anyway, I think that a good rule of thumb to qualify a software piece as a operating system is "does

Re: FW: Newbie Question

2000-11-30 Thread Charles Cazabon
Louis Mushandu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fits qmail installation and all was fine until I tried to send email to > > the box. It produces the following error message And wrote it twice. Woohoo. Hint: if no one replies to your question the first time you post it, posting exactly the sam

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-30 Thread Dave Sill
"asantos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Or that XEmacs is not an operating system. Actually, XEmacs is as much of an operating system--probably even moreso--than early versions of Windows. -Dave

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Andy KKS
> > Doesn't Outlook have filtering capabilities? Perhaps you could figure out > how to just filter mail from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> into the bit bucket; that > should basically take care of the problem, eh? But where would the *fun* be then. I haven't had so much to laugh, for a quite a while now.

Fw: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Andy KKS
- Original Message - From: "Andy KKS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jamin Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 8:34 AM Subject: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question) - Original Message - From: "Jamin Collins"

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:13:18 -0100, >> "asantos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: A> Robin's no geek. He's just ... Are you sure? This picture plus the signature makes me wonder... http://socha.net/Gnus/screenshots/mime.html -- Karl Vogel<[EMAIL PROT

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Jamin Collins
Andy Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes: > - Be brief without being overly terse. When replying to > a message, > include enough original material to be understood but > no more. It > is extremely bad form to simply reply to a message by including > all the previou

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Jamin Collins on Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:45:04 CST: > > * 6 attribution lines > > Don't believe this is a requirement or violation of any RFC. If it is, > which one? > > > * No citation leader > > Once again. Don't believe this is a requirement or violation of any RFC. If > it is, whi

Re: Newbie Question

2000-11-29 Thread Henning Brauer
Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2000 21:17 schrieb Louis Mushandu: > locals > > mail.wonder.com:mcuser01 > wonder.com > > virtualdomains > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You mixed two files here. In locals just list every domain you are delivering myil locally for, on per line. in virtualdomains the mapping t

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Henning Brauer
Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2000 19:01 schrieb Barley: > To Mr. Brauer, who seems on a quest to post nothing but flames here, we > realize that no one is paid staff here. But you flaming everyone who posts > doesn't help a thing. You should reread my mails. Then you would notice i gave somehow det

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Henning Brauer
Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2000 17:22 schrieb Jamin Collins: > There is no need to refer to his posting as "such nonsense". Calling me an asshole on one hand (this weren't his words, it's just my conclusion) and asking me for help off-list does not fit. > Additionally, > there is no call/need

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Eric Garff
"Robin S. Socha" wrote: > Indeed. Tell me, Jamin, does your inflatable sheep talk? If so, do you > wait for it to ask you for a fag, then repeat everything it said during > intercourse (including the funny noises your mother and the new neighbour > were making as well as the TV) and then ask if

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said "asantos" on Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:13:18 -0100: > For someone with such a doubtfull sense of humour as he shows to have > welcoming IE users the way he does at http://socha.net/, he seems to be > inordinately proud of listing among his "computer skills" Microsoft Office. Bah! That's a l

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Jamin Collins
Louis Theran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Really? Is this a digression because you've already contacted LWQ's > author with suggestions? Have you posted anything to this list about > the specific problems you had with INSTALL? No to both, because I have not yet completed my configurati

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Tim Burden
Such a list would pobably be ignored by the people that can really help. And sometimes the stupid questions aren't from newbies, they are from genuinely stupid lackwits like me. Anyway RTFM is usually good advice. Sometimes we really are lazy or busy setting up all kinds of crap on our systems an

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Scott Ballantyne
We old timers used to consider it rude to discuss anything but technical issues on a technical mailing list. If someone had a problem with someones manner of expression, or personality, they took it off list. Please do so in the future. sdb -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Newbie Question

2000-11-29 Thread Robin S. Socha
* Louis Mushandu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I tried to send email to the box. It produces the following error message > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a > best-preference MX or A for that host, it isn't

Re: Newbie Question

2000-11-29 Thread asantos
From: Louis Mushandu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, >it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) > >I have done rtfm bit, hones,t but now I seem to be going round in circles. Follow the thread starting at

RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)

2000-11-29 Thread Tim Hunter
: List Courtesy (was Newbie question) > > > Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > You called the docs "highly inadequate", not "a little lacking when it > > comes to helping someone completely new to qmail". In my > > book, calling > >

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