Re: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Bill Gibson (III)
If you don't ever use the drops you are either going too slow, setting the bars too low, or don't need them. Ahem. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:03 PM, charlie wrote: > I took mine off a couple years ago because I found myself looking at > it instead of where I was going along with having the mindse

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread charlie
I took mine off a couple years ago because I found myself looking at it instead of where I was going along with having the mindset of trying to go faster..it just seemed pointless. Like you, I enjoy riding more because of it..to the original poster I can relate, I turn 53 in September a

[RBW] Thumbs up everybody!

2011-06-06 Thread Ted Durant
What it's all about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6ybwW8jqjs td -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-o

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread SISDDWG
"I've lost a lot of power and speed, and this year feel a drop in endurance, but as long as I don't look at a bike computer too much, my happiness per mile hasn't trailed off." Yep, I had a computer on all six of my bikes but when I reached 65 years of age all the computers were remove. I enjoy cy

Re: [RBW] Women's Handlebar Recommendations?

2011-06-06 Thread Joan Oppel
A friend of mine spent months searching for the right handlebar, tried the Salsa Poco (didn't like it at all), Nitto Noodle (ok but not perfect for her), and finally ordered the Nitto bar that Rivendell sells as Mark's bar.  She loves it, for the shallow drop, the short ramp and the round shape.   

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Why Freewheels? WAS: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-06 Thread james black
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 05:17, Dave Mann wrote: > So... I'm probably about as retro-grouchy as the next iBOB, but I have to > ask... > Why use a freewheel? By asking this question you are advancing to a new plateau of grouchy. Why must we dump our freewheels, a technology which in my experience ha

[RBW] Re: WTB Albatross set

2011-06-06 Thread Chris Halasz
JL, I don't have Albatross bars, just the Soma brand. Also have a *long* Ritchey stem (14cm). Thanks, Chris On Jun 3, 8:50 am, JL wrote: > I am looking to change the ride of one of my bikes and wonder is > anyone has a nitto Albatross bar setup they wouldn't mind parting > with.  I am looking

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread charlie
I'm with all the folks who like the double top tube.I like the different look and it does make the frame stronger. I'm a full 268 and would want the extra tube but I don't think a lighter rider would get a harsh ride out of it, in fact, it would help if the bike were loaded up with bags. I thi

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread pb
At the risk of stating the obvious, this is a complicated subject, with more variables than just drop bars or no. -- stem height -- stem reach -- bar drop -- bar reach -- bar ramps -- brake lever design -- maybe saddle position as well At 54, I happily ride drop bars, as follows: -- bar tops are

Re: [RBW] can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread canali
Anne Paulson wrote: > How high are your drops? they were a at saddle height...then i changed them to be 2 cm above i should be on a 51 atlantis (needing a 52-53 cm tt, vs the 55 on the 53 that I do ride...so reach is a bit) ...sure I could get a shorter stem (i have a 90mm on it) or a shorter ramp

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread jeffrey kane
I'm with Zack on this one, it's a pretty unique look... and where else are you going to get that off the rack, so-to-speak, these days? I wouldn't think twice about loading up the front for a long trip either. On Jun 5, 2:56 pm, Jay wrote: > Does this make any sense in a 56 cm Sam? Should it be

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread jeffrey kane
Of course, this really all depends on what kind of riding you intend to do. Around town or out on the road for 2 to 3 hours at a stretch? Most importantly, keep in mind that 50 is like, the new 30 ... and the minute you start suggesting to yourself that you're getting "older", well ... I'd suggest

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread islaysteve
To add my 2 cents to the discussion: I'm a decade older than 50 (in 3 days!) and last Fall I started getting back into cycling after a hiatus of about 7 years. I had converted my older road bike to flat mtn bars for my daughter, and she loved it (still does). I thought I did too, so I did the sa

Re: [RBW] can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread robert zeidler
Most of mike road bikes are drops, but I do have a newly acquired Hunqapillar w/ the Albatross bars. It's a nice position, comfort wise, and I really enjoy riding it. I've said here before, it makes me feel like I'm back in 5th grade and how can that be bad? On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:56 PM,

Re: [RBW] Re: East Coast frame painting

2011-06-06 Thread robert zeidler
Just got a bike from Bilenky. Colors, quality, timeliness, communication...all top notch. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, RonLau wrote: > I will consider Bilenky again, they can do most paint job in house and > that saves a lot of time. > > > > On Jun 3, 6:46 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: >> Hi, >> I

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread pruckelshaus
Well, yeah. I'm not quite that old (44), but I find myself riding on the hoods or the tops 100% of the time...I virtually never ride the drops. I use SRAM Apex on one bike and Dura Ace 7700 on the other, so brifters all around. Pop the stem up a bit and see if it helps. Pete On Jun 6, 11:55 am

Re: [RBW] Women's Handlebar Recommendations?

2011-06-06 Thread Dan Abelson
Maybe check out the Salsa short and shallow or the Salsa Poco http://salsacycles.com/components/short_shallow/ http://salsacycles.com/components/poco_bar/ Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 a

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread islaysteve
My apologies and Grant can blast me, but I think that undertubes are a marketing gimmick. Especially in the smaller sizes. Look around on eBay for 56 Sams or equivalent Bleriots (but study the geometry charts carefully). Or other Riv frames. For your purposes, I bet you can find one that you li

[RBW] Re: Women's Handlebar Recommendations?

2011-06-06 Thread rex
fwiw i didnt like the 48 noodles, sorta liked the 46s, but really like the 44s. maybe the width is off. On Jun 6, 12:04 pm, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote: > After complaining about her stock handle bars (specifically the reach > to the brakes from the hooks) I recently replaced my wife's bars with >

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread redsydude
Perhaps Rivendell "beefed up" the Sam Hillborne this year because they believed they would have the AMOS to sell to lighter customers. I wish they could take that project back from SOMA and actually build a $1000 frame/fork positioned between the Roadeo and AHH. On Jun 6, 5:00 pm, Steve Palincsar

[RBW] WTB: Tubus Cargo and Ortlieb rear panniers

2011-06-06 Thread ejg
Hi all I'm looking for Nitto rear panniers in black and a black Tubus cargo rack. I have the Sportpacker plus on the front, but would consider any rear model in black Thanks EJG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to thi

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Mike S
I'm 25 and I only ride Moustache bars, and would bet Albatross's would be heavenly for me as well. Noodles came with my Quickbeam and I abhorred the whole crouched over, knees-in-the-chest speedy position. I tend to ride longer & more joyfully when I'm not hating life for the sake of an aerodynamic

[RBW] Re: Women's Handlebar Recommendations?

2011-06-06 Thread Bill M.
There are many compact bars out there that might work. Examples: This comparison page is well worth a look: http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/road-drop-bar-geometry/ Bill On Jun 6, 9:04 am, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote: > After complaining about her stock handle bars (specifically the reach > to

Re: [RBW] Re: FS B17 and Selle Anatomica saddles

2011-06-06 Thread Ray Shine
I am interested in one of the saddles, but each time I try to email you, it won't go through. Please email me. > >From: islaysteve >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2011 2:54 PM >Subject: [RBW] Re: FS B17 and Selle Anatomica saddles > >Melanie, That

Re: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Bill Gibson (III)
If drops aren't more comfortable than "mountain bike" bars, and they're at the same height as the saddle or above, you'll more comfortable as you limber up and lose the gut; well, that's my experience, not yours, so take it with some windage...but even when younger (now at 56), the paunch that appe

[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world

2011-06-06 Thread Mike
On Jun 6, 8:15 am, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Am I alone in having the experience that metal fenders were *easier* > to install than the SKS fenders? Not way more easy, but definitely > easier. If for no other reason than having fewer things connecting the > dropout to the fender. And I certainly

Re: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Bertin753
Damned iPhone. As I was saying, I look at that tight bend with long ramps -- 135 mm drop, 115 mm reach -- and they look so comfortable. The 185s are very nice but, if you have them set up with the statutory level ends, the ramps are very short and steep. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2011, a

Re: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Bertin753
Jim -- I look at nice, tight, shallow bend on the "PRallels" On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Jim Cloud wrote: > Patrick, > I think the Grand Bois Maes Parallel type bars look quite nice. Peter > Weigle used them on his "Black Tie" bike that was featured in BQ. > Here's a link to Weigle's Photostrea

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread charlie
Are you riding with your hands on the drop part of the bar.if so move on up to the hoods and get a tall enough stem the right length. You want your back angle to be about 45-50 degrees. Sitting more upright than that might be comfortable for shorter rides but its less than ideal for a good blen

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Jim Cloud
Patrick, I think the Grand Bois Maes Parallel type bars look quite nice. Peter Weigle used them on his "Black Tie" bike that was featured in BQ. Here's a link to Weigle's Photostream of that bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/sets/72157625305683679/with/5209479494/ Still it begs the

Re: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Has anyone tried these or the functional equivalents? http://www.compasscycle.com/images/MaesPara800.jpg (From Compass Bicycles: http://www.compasscycle.com/Handlebars.html) Copies of these, apparently: http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/Hersefixed.jpg Me, Ahm 'a thinkin' that they may well do

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Bill M.
52 years young here, and for me drops are the only comfortable long- distance option. I do have and like the Noodles, but I find that the modern 'compact' or 'short-n-shallow' shaped bars have some advantages. The short drop makes the drop position easier to reach without the raising tops so high

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread jamison brosseau
or you could always get the betty foy. no extra top tub. problem solved. On Jun 6, 8:47 pm, jamison brosseau wrote: > i am hoping all the folks here in the city think im riding on a cheap > bike. i would get three tubes if i could, just to make up for all of > you that can't see the beauty of th

[RBW] Re: FS phil wood 26" wheelset

2011-06-06 Thread JL
I am will to accept offers and trades if I missed the mark price wise. On Jun 6, 10:23 am, J L wrote: > Phil wood Cassette wheelset 26". 135 rear spacing, 100 front, 36h f/r, > straight gauge spokes, Mavic 517 rims. Skewers included, no cassette but it > uses shimano 8/9/10 speed. These wheels h

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread jamison brosseau
i am hoping all the folks here in the city think im riding on a cheap bike. i would get three tubes if i could, just to make up for all of you that can't see the beauty of the undertube. On Jun 6, 8:28 pm, EricP wrote: > Have an early single tube 56cm Hillborne, weigh 225 and find it is > just fi

Re: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Steve, you have a low mind. Patrick "don't let me even think about that" Moore On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 17:46 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> briefs as opposed to boxers are generally not as comfortable, but I >> completely forgot about them w

Re: [RBW] Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
56 cm, 165 lb? Dealbreaker! -- Unless you are carrying 3d world loads of charcoal. On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Jay wrote: > Does this make any sense in a 56 cm Sam? Should it be a deal breaker? > I almost ordered one the other day until I found out all the new one's > have the "undertube". >

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread EricP
Have an early single tube 56cm Hillborne, weigh 225 and find it is just fine as it is. Confession - was going to sell this bike a little while ago. Even had it at the LBS. Then saw the e-mail about double top tube 56 models and that helped me change my mind. The bike is staying with me. For n

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread EricP
1+ to that, Steve. Have scars from short-er rides back in the 1980's when commuting to college. Then often riding around after class. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 6, 6:49 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 17:46 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > briefs as opposed to boxers are

Re: [RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 19:55 -0400, William Pustow wrote: > > and you are right. It's a personal choice. When I see them, I see > a cheap Asian bike that's meant to handle an additional 150 pounds of > sugar cain or chickens, or whatever. For the posters weighing 200++ > pounds, it's probably a

Re: [RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread William Pustow
...and you are right. It's a personal choice. When I see them, I see a cheap Asian bike that's meant to handle an additional 150 pounds of sugar cain or chickens, or whatever. For the posters weighing 200++ pounds, it's probably a good choice. Bill (who owns a Hilson, Rambouillet, and Quickb

Re: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 17:46 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > briefs as opposed to boxers are generally not as comfortable, but I > completely forgot about them while riding. Try doing that on a century sometime and you may find the leg elastics leaving an indelible impression on both mind and body.

Re: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:37 PM, MichaelH , late 60, wrote: > Drop bars also offer the  least stress on the buns and maybe the feet > too, which have been a problem for me. > Amen to that, and thanks for your inspiring example. I am always pleased to find that a good saddle position and bar posti

Re: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Forgot to add: 56 yrs old. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:42 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > +1 for drops, and not too wide, either. I've been playing around with > bars on different bikes and recently lowered the Noodles on the Fargo > by a good 5 cm (they were 8 above and felt fine, except that riding on

Re: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
+1 for drops, and not too wide, either. I've been playing around with bars on different bikes and recently lowered the Noodles on the Fargo by a good 5 cm (they were 8 above and felt fine, except that riding on the hoods and flats felt "tippy". Now they feel good all around except that they are too

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread MichaelH
I took about a ten year break from cycling in my forties when life demanded I focus exclusively on other things. When I started back, I set two rules for myself which proved very useful. First I went on a (Atkins) diet and lost 40 lbs. Second, as I recommitted myself I decided to avoid riding so

[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world

2011-06-06 Thread Esteban
I absolutely prefer Honjos. Hands down. But I like how SKS' travel! On Jun 7, 12:21 am, Minh wrote: > I found the metal fenders (VO ones) were in fact harder to install > then the SKS ones but i'm not that patient, i think the metal ones > require a lot more test fitting.  In the overall schem

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Mojo
After reading all the replies here by all you old farts, I realized I am one too. Started riding seriously in High School in 1972 on drop bars, the only bar available except on those English Racers. I have a Priest (Riv pre-Albatross) bar on my towny 3 speed (yes an English Racer: 1966 Robin Hood)

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Right with you there Peter. I'm +10lbs on you, and do 2/3 of my riding on trails. And always with another 10 lb load at least. If I were not- too-much lighter and did almost-no trail riding, I might've gone for the single top tube one myself. Though I like linear-pull brakes, and that may have tipp

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Well, it may be exactly that as far as you're concerned: ridiculously overbuilt. But I'm sure glad *someone* makes a well-designed bike with good clearances that can feel light and fast when rider-only (as light- and-fast as any bike with a 245lb rider can feel, I guess) and stable and rugged when

Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks a lot. Not sure I care for the water and mud (fat chance of that out here) but would dearly love some dirt that wasn't sandy. Jersey: It says Large Hardware -- never heard of them -- and the only result I get for "jerseys" as opposed to gloves, etc, is from Bike Pro -- which probably answer

[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world

2011-06-06 Thread Minh
I found the metal fenders (VO ones) were in fact harder to install then the SKS ones but i'm not that patient, i think the metal ones require a lot more test fitting. In the overall scheme it's not a big difference in time. I think the SKS ones have their place though, i think the metal ones are

[RBW] Re: Women's Handlebar Recommendations?

2011-06-06 Thread Crazy4Suki
I like the noodles on my Quickbeam, but am changing my old Centurion drops to moustache with dirtdrop stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscrib

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread Minh
I'm about the same weight as the OP (well 155), and i think the double is overkill, but you know what, if the decision between a double top SH and no SH at all, i would take the double-top-tube. The bike is that good. If you plan on using it for touring, once you add the racks, bags, lights the e

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread jamison brosseau
Personally I like the undertubes. I wish I had gotten a second one on my AHH. I like the way it looks. On Jun 6, 5:14 pm, Peter Pesce wrote: > I chose a 60cm Taiwan Sam over a Waterford Sam because I didn't really like > the looks of the undertube. At the time one was able the get a 60 in either

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread Peter Pesce
I chose a 60cm Taiwan Sam over a Waterford Sam because I didn't really like the looks of the undertube. At the time one was able the get a 60 in either configuration. And I actually preferred the sidepull brakes at the time, too. For my use - 99% easy road riding - it works fine. At 235lbs, I fe

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread Justin August
It would annoy me. As someone who'd buy a 56cm Sam I'm no longer considering it at this point. Ridiculously overbuilt and kills the bike for me. I it was a Hunqua or Bomba I'd be okay with it. Just silly I think. Grant has too many beefy bikes currently. The same seems to correspond more to the AH

[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world

2011-06-06 Thread Justin August
I've never had much trouble installing metal fenders. I must be doing it wrong. -Justin On Jun 6, 11:15 am, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Am I alone in having the experience that metal fenders were *easier* > to install than the SKS fenders? Not way more easy, but definitely > easier. If for no oth

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Jim Cloud
I've ridden done most of my riding with drop bars (for about 40 years now...), most recently with Nitto Mod. 185 bars on my Riv (these are now sold by Rivendell in a lightened version called "Mark's Bar") and the original equipment Cinelli Giro D'Italia bars on my Paramount. I don't, however, ride

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Michael_S
Everytime I try something different than drop bars I never seem to feel comfortable. M-bars, VO Milan bars, I even tried some Mountain drop bars. I still come back to drops... specifcally 46cm Noodles. Mine are at seat height and with a Brooks B17 I am "snug as a bug in a rug". ~mike On Jun 6, 12

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
+1 ... loving the Albatross bar. But call me fickle. The Moustache bar is a close second. And the Bullmoose bar is a decent third and fourth (better on a stilt, but fun as can be "as it comes" for < 3-hour rides). Noodles are also good for shorter-term variety. I never stay in one place too long o

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Yes, that's the big question. Bump them up 4-5cm above the saddle, and you may find you like them again. As you put on miles you can lower them back to saddle height, or simply leave them up. The extra hand positions from drops are definitely nice to have. On Jun 6, 11:59 am, Anne Paulson wrot

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Well, if you don't like the look... sure, it could be a deal breaker. That's entirely up to you. But if the bike works for you in general, and if you either like or are neutral about the double-top-tube look, why *would* it be a deal breaker? The only meaningful effect I would expect is that it st

[RBW] Re: FS: Son 28 hub (Silver) & Edelux light (Black), both NIB

2011-06-06 Thread Jonathan Mitchell
Thanks all for the great response and apologies in advance if I'm not able to return all emails right away--work got unexpectedly busy. Thought I'd write this to get word out to anyone interested. As a quick clarification, I do like the idea of a trade/s and ideally looking for a black saddle, ope

RE: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Sarah Gibson
never got outta cycling once i started again as an adult(prolly round 35 or so) but i dont have one single road bike with drop bars. never found em useful here. mustache bars, flat bars, arc bars all variety of "tourist" bars old and new etc etc well behaved women rarely make history _ride yr

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread SISDDWG
I'm 71 years old and ride drop bars at about saddle level, though my weekly mileage these days is probably a little less than 100. On Jun 6, 8:55 am, canali wrote: > just wondering if it's just me and i need to take my time adding the > mileage and being consistent  and patient (and getting back

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-06 Thread Beth H
Patrick: Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/5116189588/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/5054677492/in/photostream (both from last year's cross season but I race cross and short-track on the same bike) Course for short-track is a multi-faceted affair incorporating

[RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread John Bennett
I'm 55, and ride Albatross bars every day. Pretty sure my Drop Bar Days are behind me, and I could care less. Komfort is King! John @ RBW HQ On Jun 6, 8:55 am, canali wrote: > just wondering if it's just me and i need to take my time adding the > mileage and being consistent  and patient (and g

[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread Zack
I have a 64 on the way. At first I didn't like the "undertube" but it has really grown on me. It is probably/maybe slightly unnecessary on a 56 cm, but still looks great. It wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me, but that's just me. On Jun 6, 3:05 pm, Bill Pustow wrote: > It would be a deal breaker

Re: [RBW] can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 08:55 -0700, canali wrote: > just wondering if it's just me and i need to take my time adding the > mileage and being consistent and patient (and getting back into > shape) > > OR do alot of us as we get older no longer find being so bent down as > comfortable...thinking of

Re: [RBW] Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread Bill Pustow
It would be a deal breaker for me. Bill Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Jay wrote: > Does this make any sense in a 56 cm Sam? Should it be a deal breaker? > I almost ordered one the other day until I found out all the new one's > have the "undertube". > What does is collective wi

Re: [RBW] can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Anne Paulson
How high are your drops? On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:55 AM, canali wrote: > just wondering if it's just me and i need to take my time adding the > mileage and being consistent  and patient (and getting back into > shape) -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this mess

Re: [RBW] can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread Robert F. Harrison
I rode drops in my 20's and early 30's. Then I more or less gave up cycling though I did have a mountain bike around. I picked up again about 3 years ago after turning 50 fell in love with moustache bars. Apparently they aren't for everyone but those of us who like 'em seem to swear by them (as opp

Re: [RBW] can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread nawrock
Im 50+, have drops on the Rodeo and mustache bars on the SimpleOne.  The m-bars on mated to a dirt drop stem.  I love this semi upright position, and almost prefer it alot of times to drop bar rides. Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: "canali" To: "RBW O

[RBW] Re: Women's Handlebar Recommendations?

2011-06-06 Thread Lisa
My current drop bars have a short enough reach, but the drop of 150mm is much too deep for me. I've been considering switching to the Nitto M196 (http://www.bikemania.biz/ProductDetails.asp? ProductCode=Nitto_M196). The M196 looks like a scaled-down Noodle -- backswept like the Noodle, but with a

[RBW] Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne

2011-06-06 Thread Jay
Does this make any sense in a 56 cm Sam? Should it be a deal breaker? I almost ordered one the other day until I found out all the new one's have the "undertube". What does is collective wisdom of this group? BTW I weigh 165 lbs want the bike for commuting and the occasional tour. Jay -- You re

[RBW] Re: FS B17 and Selle Anatomica saddles

2011-06-06 Thread islaysteve
Melanie, That's a nice deal on the B17 Honey; that's what I have on my Bleriot. Congrats on finding the right saddle and good luck selling the other ones. Happy riding, Steve On Jun 4, 11:36 am, Melanie Yolles wrote: > My search for the perfect saddle is at an end (for now). The Brooks Flyer >

[RBW] WTB Boxy Bag from the Baggins Line

2011-06-06 Thread wmh
Thought I posted this Yesterday, I would like to buy a Boxy Bag from the Baggins line in the dark kahki green to match the seat bag my wife got me for fathers day in 2004. I would like the handlebar rack too if you have one. Please reply on list. Thanks! -- You received this message because you a

[RBW] can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...

2011-06-06 Thread canali
just wondering if it's just me and i need to take my time adding the mileage and being consistent and patient (and getting back into shape) OR do alot of us as we get older no longer find being so bent down as comfortable...thinking of swapping out drops on atlantis for jeff jones h loop bars or

[RBW] Re: Experiments in Rolling Resistance and Low Speed Stability

2011-06-06 Thread rperks
It was actually a really fun day and I am planning to head back up in a couple of weeks, unless the weather turns hot, to explore a bit along pine mountain rd. Yes it was one of the newer IRD freewheels. Rob On Jun 5, 10:03 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > Rob, this was a day to remember!  Curious ab

[RBW] Re: East Coast frame painting

2011-06-06 Thread RonLau
I will consider Bilenky again, they can do most paint job in house and that saves a lot of time. On Jun 3, 6:46 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > Hi, > I would like to have my green Hillborne frame painted or powder coated > and I live in New York City. > Does anyone have any suggestions on frame paint

[RBW] FS phil wood 26" wheelset

2011-06-06 Thread J L
Phil wood Cassette wheelset 26". 135 rear spacing, 100 front, 36h f/r, straight gauge spokes, Mavic 517 rims. Skewers included, no cassette but it uses shimano 8/9/10 speed. These wheels have just under 1000 miles. True and ready to ride. $450 - local SF pickup or $550 - shipped (last time i sent

[RBW] Re: Women's Handlebar Recommendations?

2011-06-06 Thread Rocky B
Sorry, the links didn't come out correctly in my last reply... Nitto m106: http://www.alexscycle.com/handlebars/road-1-2/nitto-neat-m106-nas.html Nitto m186: http://www.alexscycle.com/handlebars/road-1-2/nitto-m186-sti.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Women's Handlebar Recommendations?

2011-06-06 Thread Rocky B
My wife used the the Nitto M186 (http://www.alexscycle.com/handlebars/ road-1-2/nitto-m186-sti.html) on her old RB-1 and she like them because of the short reach, shallow drops and flat ramps. We have since sold the RB-1 and now she's on a Bleriot with Alba bars which is currently in child-hauler

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-06 Thread Rocky B
I've been riding my Quickbeam fixed for the past 2 months. I've been using Grip Kings with Power Grip "Fixie" Staps and have been very happy with this combo. I first tried the "regular" Power Grip straps but found the clamping bracket to be too cheap and flimsy - one my straps kept coming loose n

[RBW] Women's Handlebar Recommendations?

2011-06-06 Thread Rambouilleting Utahn
After complaining about her stock handle bars (specifically the reach to the brakes from the hooks) I recently replaced my wife's bars with a pair of Noodles. She liked them on her first 20 miler but after a 50 mile ride on Saturday she wants them gone. Any recommendations from the smaller handed a

[RBW] Re: considering pedals/Cascade/Sierra tour

2011-06-06 Thread Mike
Yes, please post photos of your tour. Last year after finishing up my brevet series on SPDs I spent the summer and fall riding platform pedals. This year seems to be a repeat of that. I'll most likely keep the SPDs on my brevet bike but the Hilsen has MKS Sneaker Pedals and the LHT has Grip Kings.

[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world

2011-06-06 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Am I alone in having the experience that metal fenders were *easier* to install than the SKS fenders? Not way more easy, but definitely easier. If for no other reason than having fewer things connecting the dropout to the fender. And I certainly do like the extra length. Admittedly, the real reason

[RBW] Re: East Coast frame painting

2011-06-06 Thread sjauch
Why not talk to some of the local builders? I'm sure they'd be happy to help you out. http://www.johnnycoast.com/ http://www.horsecycles.com/ http://slrosko.com/ Steve On Jun 3, 9:46 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > Hi, > I would like to have my green Hillborne frame painted or powder coated > and I l

Re: [RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world

2011-06-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Actually, metals are pretty darn durable, and strangely the better (= Honjo) aluminums seem more dent resistant than the Berthoud stainless type. I've used metals (B Stainless and H Alum) on commuters, including bus racks and back-of-vans and they hold up very well. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:08 AM,

[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world

2011-06-06 Thread Mike
I don't mind SKS fenders so much but they're a bummer if you're riding with others as they're too short to keep spray off of people riding directly in front and behind you. The issue of rear spray can be resolved with a flap but there is still a bit of spray that will shoot forward. Next winter I m

Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Photos of the race, please, if you have them, and details (including course type and gearing). Patrick "race my shadow" Moore in smoky, ABQ, NM where the Greer, AZ fire is polluting our air. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Beth H wrote: > FYI: Tonight is my first short-track mountain bike race.

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-06 Thread Beth H
FYI: Tonight is my first short-track mountain bike race. I am racing a singlespeed bike. Pedal of choice is a Crank Bros. 5050XX (sealed bearings), every hole loaded with a traction pin. (That's ten pins per side.) No shin guards. (They're cumbersome, and any core sample I might take from my shin i

[RBW] Re: SKS Fenders have their place in my world

2011-06-06 Thread Ginz
Agreed, in my book, SKS are the standard. The metal fenders are beautiful but I'm afraid I'll bend them to their ruin. Also, there's the SKS quick release clip with is a feature I enjoy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To p

Re: [RBW] Re: considering pedals

2011-06-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
+1 for the photos. I liked slotted cleats and straps but found that my feet kept migrating inward until they straps rubbed the (vertical -- Pro 5 vis, not flared modern) crankarms. Maybe a similar modification would help. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Christian wrote: > Would you mind posting s

[RBW] Re: considering pedals

2011-06-06 Thread Christian
Would you mind posting some pics? Thanks Christian On Jun 5, 8:38 pm, "Steve Kesling" wrote: > I've been reading with interest all the posts about pedals these last couple > of days.  I've been riding since toe clips were considered dangerous by folks > that didn't use them.  I'm talking late

[RBW] SKS Fenders have their place in my world

2011-06-06 Thread Esteban
I prefer metal fenders. Aesthetics, full coverage, longevity, etc. However, I do have a pair of the Riv Approved™ SKS fenders that fit 650B. They've been sitting in my closet for a couple of years. I'm currently in Paris for the month teaching a course, and brought along my Velo Cult démontable

[RBW] Re: 2011 San Francisco Randonneurs Populaires!

2011-06-06 Thread Esteban
Ron - yea -- San Diego is the best city on earth! :) Mike - we should carpool! Tell all your friends about the Popularie, folks. We need more converts! Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Jun 6, 6:45 am, Michael_S wrote: > I'm busy on June date... I'll see if I can be up there in October too. > I'd

[RBW] Re: East Coast frame painting

2011-06-06 Thread Patrick in VT
On Jun 3, 9:46 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: Circle A in Providence, RI does nice work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send