Re: [silk] Imperialistic countries

2009-05-13 Thread Ravi Bellur
Why are European countries like Germany, France, UK are developed well ? Because they were imperialistic or because of good governance after hitler rule in Germany and imperalistic rules in other places ? What is causing Bulgaria to develop well ? Poland which was under communist rule is

Re: [silk] Imperialistic countries

2009-05-13 Thread Ravi Bellur
Low populations, female equality, courteous driving, and the assult of science over religion (The so-called Age of Reason when Europe rediscovered Ancient Greece and Rome) maybe helped. In fact I think I made the point that the way people drive here is a metaphor for the problem. No one

Re: [silk] Imperialistic countries

2009-05-13 Thread Ravi Bellur
I try to wait in a line here, and people try to drift past me like I'm blind. No one does that in Stockholm -- they would be mortified. Q.E.D. Keeping in mind that most everyone on this list is enlightened. I'm talking about the masses.

Re: [silk] Imperialistic countries

2009-05-13 Thread Ravi Bellur
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com wrote: I try to wait in a line here, and people try to drift past me like I'm blind. No one does that in Stockholm -- they would be mortified. Q.E.D. Keeping in mind that most everyone on this list is enlightened. I'm talking

Re: [silk] Bangalore Meetup on May 16?

2009-05-13 Thread Ravi Bellur
When do they shut down the alcohol purveyors? thanks.

Re: [silk] Imperialistic countries

2009-05-13 Thread Ravi Bellur
Not debating you point, but you should try driving in Boston or NY. Not that it comes close to the Bangalore situation, but if the road infrastructure was as bad as it is here, you would see pretty much the same. Seattle is over-polite, I feel suffocated there with people being so nice to

Re: [silk] Imperialistic countries

2009-05-13 Thread Ravi Bellur
WTF? To be frank: TF. :-)

[silk] America's Sri Ram Sena

2009-05-08 Thread Ravi Bellur
Like I said, we got 'em too. So concerned with repressive control that they miss the essential points of their religions. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090508/ap_on_re_us/us_school_dance_flap

Re: [silk] Another Incarnation (Book Review of 'The Hindus, An Alternate History')

2009-04-29 Thread Ravi Bellur
Having said that, I wonder if there is any service that allows people at USA order books from Indian stores with delivery to the US listed addresses ? The books I get here are WAY cheaper than the US, but they almost all say For sale only in India, Pakistan, Bangalesh, Sri Lanka, etc.

Re: [silk] Another Incarnation (Book Review of 'The Hindus, An Alternate History')

2009-04-29 Thread Ravi Bellur
Visiting India in 1921, E. M. Forster witnessed the eight-day celebration of Lord Krishna’s birthday. This first encounter with devotional ecstasy left the Bloomsbury aesthete baffled. “There is no dignity, no taste, no form,” he complained in a letter home. Brits were kinda uptight back

Re: [silk] Another Incarnation (Book Review of 'The Hindus, An Alternate History')

2009-04-29 Thread Ravi Bellur
I would recommend Coupling[1] - the original UK version (not the US remake by NBC which was pretty lame) -- Vinayak 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupling_(UK_TV_series) You could not be more right. I loved the UK Coupling, own every episode. Jeff Murdoch is a prophet! :-)

Re: [silk] Another Incarnation (Book Review of 'The Hindus, An Alternate History')

2009-04-29 Thread Ravi Bellur
(hidden connections ala Seinfeld) YES YES YES!! That's what's so brilliant -- how 3 or more seemingly indepent plot lines end up dovetailing multiplicatively. You have made my day :-) I wish my DVDs weren't on the other side of the world at the moment. I'm am Giselle, the French bitch!

Re: [silk] Another Incarnation (Book Review of 'The Hindus, An Alternate History')

2009-04-29 Thread Ravi Bellur
There are so many brilliant episodes and scenes. But I think beep beep inferno is my favourite especially the scene where Steve tries to explain the plot at the table :) -- Vinayak Ah, Lesbian Spank Inferno. Good one. But my favorite has to be the one with the Israeli girl seen twice,

Re: [silk] Bangalore Meetup on May 16?

2009-04-27 Thread Ravi Bellur
Anyone up for a drink with Amit, myself, and whoever else turns up on that evening, somewhere in the vicinity? Hmmm spontaneously and with no outside influence, I think either of these places look good: http://shiokfood.com or http://mosslounge.com. :-) As to how proximal they are

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-25 Thread Ravi Bellur
Thanks for this reply . -- this was the kind of elucidation that helped me understand things better. One of the many benefits of Silklist. On the US election stuff, it vetted to the nation a lot of the gender discrimination that still exists. There's plenty of discrimination that persist, though

Re: [silk] Disenfranchised Minorities?

2009-04-25 Thread Ravi Bellur
Don't forget the TV channels. All they want is a straw and they will sensationalize it. Reminds of a recent sighting on News 9, a Bangalore based local news channel. They were making a big hue and cry about a program that was going to be aired later that night that was based on the news that

Re: [silk] Disenfranchised Minorities?

2009-04-25 Thread Ravi Bellur
sic lightening On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com wrote: Don't forget the TV channels. All they want is a straw and they will sensationalize it. Reminds of a recent sighting on News 9, a Bangalore based local news channel. They were making a big hue and cry about

Re: [silk] Disenfranchised Minorities?

2009-04-25 Thread Ravi Bellur
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.comwrote: (Bah, gmail on blackberry does not allow bottom posting) As someone once said, do not attribute to malice that which can be sufficiently attributed to stupidity. Napolean Boneparte

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-25 Thread Ravi Bellur
Welcome to our western nightmare: men are the eye candy accessories. http://omg.yahoo.com/news/melissa-rycroft-and-beau-make-red-carpet-debut-at-us-hot-hollywood-party/21664?nc Sad that the wrong side won (instead of liberating women from superficial oppression, we just subsumed men to the same

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
In Free Societies I think we believe there's large social benefit to fairness and freedom. This includes access to enfranchisement in that society. And a place to live, a place to work, etc. are elements of that. Hence, in the US, there are Civil Rights laws that make certain discrimination

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
But no one's apologizing to me for the fact that steak is so delicious, damn it! And don't even get me started on the wonder that is bacon... And no one's apologizing to the person that may worship phallic objects who is horrified at the treatment of carrots and cucumbers... (although I suppose

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
I didn't say I would pass judgment that he/she is a terrorist just on the basis of their Muslim name, just that I would be more wary. Since you've culled out other parts of my post - I'll restate. I didn't say I wouldn't rent to a Muslim, just not to somebody I didn't know at all or wasn't

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
During the crusades, I'd have rather taken my chances with Saladadin than Richard the Lionhearted (the Europeans at that time were notoriously savage) -- and if I was looking for science and culture, you'd want to head to Baghdad not Paris. I meant to spell Salahadin not Saladadin which sounds

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
Oh, and I forgot one important point -- that playing up this Muslim Threat has been politically expedient for a number of politicians around the world (and definitely in the US). There's a different between the truth and the truthiness that gets demagogues what they want. And as far as whipping

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:02 PM, sur...@hserus.net sur...@hserus.netwrote: I've eaten camel in riyadh and kangaroo in perth. i just dont order meat when others at the table are vegetarian I do cook special stuff just for them when I invite them over. Even when I have a barbecue, in California

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
So, basically I don't get it. I don't think we can compare them to the Vikings. And I don't think this is just history repeating itself. And forcing change (through military or other means) from the outside might only result in making matters worse (as evidenced in recent efforts) and maybe

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Zainab Bawa bawazaina...@gmail.comwrote: What makes you believe that Muslims shy away from capitalism? True, and there's also that matter of the bazzillions we pay to Muslim businessmen for oil (granted not in India, but remember that 17 of the 19 terrorists

Re: [silk] Need some help

2009-04-21 Thread Ravi Bellur
That was supposed to go to the thread that's numbering about 190+ entries. dunno why it ended up here.

Re: [silk] On self-improvement

2009-04-13 Thread Ravi Bellur
Self-improvement, to some degree, requires self-awareness. Self-help books try to bake some of this in, but I think ultimately having the ability to see your automatic thoughts and understand their motivators. I think this is the realm of cognitive psychology, and I think they use many tools from

Re: [silk] Bangalore silk meet up

2009-04-10 Thread Ravi Bellur
great meet up! good times meeting all of you -- thanks!

Re: [silk] Bangalore silk meet up

2009-04-08 Thread Ravi Bellur
s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote: We're in for Friday. Shall we say 11:30 am? 1. Venkat 2. Usha 3. Udhay 4. Kiran 5. Ravi

Re: [silk] Indian Men Living in U.S. Strike Out

2009-04-06 Thread Ravi Bellur
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123896998996190775.html For instance, he says some overseas Indians want a bride who is smart, fluent in English, and simultaneously, docile in the house. He says such women are now harder to find, so he bumps up his fees for some searches. To be fair,

Re: [silk] Bangalore silk meet up

2009-04-06 Thread Ravi Bellur
re: Lunch Ignorant of proximity issues, may I innocently recommend F B off of St. Marks? I went there this past weekend with Udhay and it rocked!!

Re: [silk] Bangalore silk meet up

2009-04-02 Thread Ravi Bellur
Count me in, please! On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.comwrote: Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote: OK. So lets say next Friday for dinner? I'm game...

Re: [silk] Manning the barricades

2009-04-02 Thread Ravi Bellur
Sic transit gloria mundi. It means so passes the world's glory -- sic = so as in so is it always for tyrants which John Wilkes Booth said before he shot Abraham Lincoln (Sic semper tyrannus). transit = passes or goes (obviously they based the Latin word on our English word, before inventing

Re: [silk] Yet another introduction (Venkat Inumella)

2009-04-02 Thread Ravi Bellur
Re: various interesting names It would be hard to beat this one for irony, especially if you're cursed with puerile sensibilties like me: the director of the WHO's dept on HIV/AIDS is named Kevin De Cock. http://www.who.int/hiv/mediacentre/news59/en/index.html He actually looks like a pretty

Re: [silk] Manning the barricades

2009-04-02 Thread Ravi Bellur
Yeah, I've got my problems. I still think the opposite of increment is excrement... :-)

Re: [silk] Manning the barricades

2009-04-02 Thread Ravi Bellur
Oh you poor guy! Getting an increment must have been a very painful part of your life then. It's not completely berift of logic. If the opposite of incremental growth is excremental fall, it could explain the economic shit storm the US is in.

Re: [silk] Bangalore silk meet up previouslyTED India Registrations now open

2009-03-28 Thread Ravi Bellur
Another time perhaps? I hear Cloud 9 is supposed to be the most enjoyable... On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Venkat Mangudi's Silk Account s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote: Sunday is out. Will be going to CloudCamp. On 3/26/09, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote:

[silk] Saying no to moral policing in Bangalore

2009-03-25 Thread Ravi Bellur
I was heartened to read this piece: http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20090325/818/tnl-no-votes-for-moral-cops-say-bangalor.html Even though I do find sleeveless t-shirts a bit lowbrow, with the usual intent of showing off the guns to the relatively unmuscled public. Unless it was a Def Leppard

Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-25 Thread Ravi Bellur
If there's one thing I've learned from Keanu Reeves, it's that there is no spoon... :-) On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:56 AM, lukhman_khan lukhman_k...@yahoo.comwrote: Thanks Kiran. Udai is helping me as well -- but the more help the better,especially at this beginning phase which is about

Re: [silk] Prime Ministerial candidate

2009-03-24 Thread Ravi Bellur
Also I think the trance band Enigma named a song Mea Culpa which means, My fault or My blame (the root of the word culpable) in Latin. Although it appears the local police may have tried to stop the party where that music was played., lest there be obscene dancing... :-) On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at

Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Ravi Bellur
going on in India than in Denmark. How do you like them butter cookies, Danes?!? :-) On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com wrote: I was born in the US to an Indian dad from Bangalore and a Danish mom

Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Ravi Bellur
Welcome to the asylum, and please wipe the razors clean of blood after use. Your courtesy will be appreciated by other users. I have a theory to solve problems that I call Occam's Razor-slashed wrists, -- it states that whatever the most depressing explanation is, that's the most likely one.

Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Ravi Bellur
I think they assume companies will pay it, and, at least in the US, they are inured to such figures. But yeah, I think it's too much. I think they only want people who don't think that. Remember: conferences are businesses. They make money. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Mayank Dhingra

Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Ravi Bellur
I'm game! Why don't we have a silk meetup there since there have been some newcomers to the list (myself included)? Need the latest food guide for Bangalore. Kiran

Re: [silk] Thanks for a warm welcome

2009-03-22 Thread Ravi Bellur
I second that emotion. Thanks for the warm welcome. And the incisive interchange that I've been a voyeur to in the past few days. I'll tell my native species, from the planet where the sentient race is logical and fair, to send back the assult fleet -- there is, indeed, intelligence on this watery

[silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-20 Thread Ravi Bellur
Hi, all, Udai and my cousin Bala are long time friends, from childhood. I met Udai though him and after being subjected to my company on a number of occasions, he invited me to join silklist. I thought it was a fan club for the soy milk brand. But it's more likely a place to ask and discuss the