And for us who never drink soda- can we use the bottles our water
comes in?
Use the bottles that are the same crystal clear plastic that pop
bottles are, but that are used to package spring water.
The milky, translucent plastic that a lot of distilled water comes in,
as well as milk,
Doris? What sort of liver cleanse is it?
I recently went to an old chinese woman here in Toronto and bought a
liver cleanse ...
Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself... ]
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Fred, yes, that is generally what others have seen. If you nip a virus
in the bud, it prevents the infection. Once it gets fully started you
have to let it run its course, but you will usually prevent the
secondary bacterial infections that frequently cause the malady to be
much worse and drag
This was the first one I tried, but had an uneasy feeling that the
100ppm it boasted wasn't right. I noticed then after I looked at
others that they were all 3ppm, 5ppm, and 10ppm seemed the highest, I
didn't even finish the Water Oz bottle but threw it away. I think a
degree of common
Dear Silver friends,
Some minor odd symptoms have made me wonder if we are having problems
reaching members with a yahoo.com address.
Would some of you with @yahoo.com addresses please let me know if
the total number of posts you've received over the last few days agrees
closely with the
Dear Dim,
You write:
(..and sorry for my english, I try to do my best when I write in this
language.. :)
You don't need to apologize, Dim. Your english is great!
Welcome to the group. Thank you for sharing your progress with us.
Be well,
Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot,
Mary Ann writes:
Well -- that surprises me too. Generally Mike gives the list a
heads-up if he's unsubbed someone. And he tells us why, too. If this
is true, then I expect he'll be advising us soon. MA
On second thought, maybe Mike's Time Out post was just exactly that --
the
In the same vein, Sam, (pun intended) there is one positively DANGEROUS
aspect of CS/EIS: I have not used a pharmaceutical antibiotic in about
9 years, after regularly needing several prescriptions per year for at
least the previous decade.
I think maybe one or two antibiotics have been used
By clear braces I'm referring to the opague brackets which ortho
distributors told me are 99% aluminum oxide.
Good, thanks for the clarification. The Invisalign system I am talking
about are polymer guards that are made from a mold of your jaws and
modified to apply slow pressure to your
My friends around the world. By now some half the globe has already
welcomed 2007. I pray it is a year that we survive, grow, and prosper.
That we all achieve better health for ourselves and those we love.
Thank you for taking part in this small community that we share. Peace
to you all.
Be
Invisilign is not an option for many kids.
Uh, why?
the clear braces are 99% aluminum and the metal one's are nickel.
What do you mean here by clear braces and why are they 99% aluminum?
Not doubting what you say, but I need more info to understand it.
Be well,
Mike D.
[Mike Devour,
Dear Dan,
You're the second Comcast customer to mention that. I don't know what
the difference is.
Keep your fingers crossed it's permanent!
Be well,
Mike D.
Mike,
I seem to be getting the silver list e-mails on Comcast again.
Since 12-11-06.
Dan
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No virus found in this
We asked Huggins and his associates when we were in Colorado for my
revision what our options were for braces for our daughter. They
recommended the Invisalign system as the best alternative. Google. Many
hits.
A bit more expensive, but no heavy metals, nickel, electrolytic
currents,
Dear Debb,
This mail bounced to me because it was too big. The limit is 18k, which
is a fair amount of text, but Incredimail included a graphic
advertisement that was 20k all by itself.
Please select Plain Text in the compose mail window and re-send. If you
don't know how to do that, let me
Okay, since I accidentally replied to the list rather then Debb, and
posted her original question as a result, maybe we can get some input
on it?
She asks:
Hi I would really appreciate some Ideas on what you all think about
detoxing the body and lungs from nicotene.long time smoker . Debb
Anyone know of a safe dosage to use 3% peroxide on a nebulizer? Can I
use it straight, or should I add distilled water to dilute it more?
-Ken Bagwell
Ken, your suggestion triggered a memory for me.
It is possible for peroxide (H2O2) in the lungs to be DANGEROUS. It
appears that it can
Dear Peter
You write:
I have my dental revision 4 years ago and I could not be happier with
the results. Since them I had zero problems in my mouth, and can not
remember being sick or having a any pains, since.
Did you go through any period of detox or other adjustment after your
revision?
Dear Dee,
We've heard from some folks that the silver in our CS can plate out on
mercury fillings and seemingly helps to neutralize the surface
somewhat. That said, I don't personally trust the idea enough to have
left my many fillings in. They were replaced this June.
Amalgams, since the
Dear Chuck,
Thanks for the reply!
Okay, so we're looking like this:
1 oz CS
1 tsp MSM powder
15 drops Dr. Christopher's
Eyebright Formula Tincture
A couple dropperfulls of 99% DMSO
So if I've got you right, the DMSO you are adding a couple
dropperfulls of is 99%. So 2-3 milliliters of 99%
Sandy writes:
From what I gathered, the meso is
smaller than Ionic, but even Marshall's paper explains/agrees that the
color is due to larger particle size..
I don't know the verbiage they used since I haven't read either site in
a while, but the particles can't *be* smaller than ionic and
Dear Sol,
You write:
So Mike,
Do you notice any health improvement from having your amalgam
fillings replaced? Any negative effects? What did you do for detox? I'm
believe you have written about it all before, but with no archives,
would you repeat please? I'm really curious to know how
Mike can I ask what you are taing for the electrolytes?...thanks debbie
Yes, it's one of the Huggins group's Matrix products, just like all the
vitamins and minerals I'm using to adjust my blood chemistry right now.
The product is Jogger Juice. It comes in 8 ounce bottles as a
concentrate.
Hi Sol,
You write:
How do you determine you are getting rid of mercury? Is there a test
that confirms lowered levels against a baseline test prior to the
amalagam removal, or a test that confirms excretion of mercury?
I'm speaking below from what I know about the detox process. I'm
Dear Chuck,
The Dr. Christopher tincture you're thinking of, is it his Herbal
Eyebright Formula, with Bayberry Bark, Eyebright Herb, Golden Seal
Root, Red Raspberry Leaves and Cayenne Pepper in a base of 36-42% pure
grain alcohol?
See:
about my concoction, as he demonstrated nonreceptivity to
alternate therapies. He never offered any solution to the floaters
complaint. I had to take care of THAT on my own!
Works for me!
Chuck
If quizzes are quizzical, what are tests?
On 12/16/2006 7:23:21 AM, M. G. Devour
Dear Gertrude,
You wrote:
... floatersthey don' t go away..with acupuncture,impossible.
I've come a *very* long way in the last decade, and one of the things
I've come to accept is that there are some unlikely sounding things
that turn out to be true in alternative medicine.
I don't
Dear Hanneke,
... My immediate thought was the
BE unit (blood electrifier), CS and Vit C.. I am only at the very
beginning of researching this condition and the retrovirus but would
appreciate all and any input from those who have knowledge and
experience with a possible protocol regarding
Thanks Scott! I appreciate it. While I encourage potential customer to
go off-list with their requests, I expect the *vendors* to deliberately
move responses to such contacts to private mail.
Be well,
Mike D.
OOPS! I forgot, no sales requests. I will email you separately, Terry.
Sorry,
Ruth wrote:
I have at least 10 messages from today and a bunch from yesterday,
Yep, it looks like you can all hear each other now. whew!
Thanks for waiting so patiently.
Be well,
Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only
Okay, for those who are saying you haven't received anything from the
list, here's my report on list traffic for you to compare with:
Dec 10 ... at least 6 so far, including this
Dec 9 ... 9 posts
Dec 8 ... 14 posts
Dec 7 ... 24 posts
... and so on.
If you have not received that number (or
Hi gang,
In the last couple of hours I've heard from a number of people who have
only been receiving *my* messages and not those of any other member,
even themselves, for at least the last 2 days.
Here's my question: Is there anybody who's gotten most or all of the
messages that have gone out
Hi gang,
It the evidence I have is right, then the list is fixed.
As I posted in a message from another address, the information I
gathered from all of you who responded to my questions let Eskimo
support zero in on the flaw in the server configuration that was
stopping mail from going out
Dear Ron,
Your message appeared on the list just fine. I'm sending this answer to
the list *AND* to your own address. You should get two copies.
The list appears to be silent and that is unusual.
This is simply to test to see if my post makes it.
If it does Mike- would you send a reply to
Thanks for the link, Sharlene.
I've heard of devices for directly heating the prostate. I don't know
much more about them, but I do have direct experience with effectively
treating hemorrhoids!
I pretty much chanced on the fact that CS with about 20 to 30 percent
DMSO will cause the pain to
Hi Heather,
On a mildly-related note...I haven't seen any OT mail in ages...is there
still an off-topic list and are people still contributing to it? I
wonder if my mail nukes them...
There've been a few posts most days lately, so if you haven't seen
anything in a week you might be
Just creaky old software and the vagaries of a smaller ISP, Jean. If
anything I feel safer with Eskimo than trusting our community to a big,
impersonal operation like Yahoo, who would shut us down without a
second thought if somebody told them to.
Be well,
Mike D.
Hi,
Do you reckon these
Update:
Mail is starting to flow into the mailboxes of eskimo users (like me).
I've seldom been as glad to see SPAM in my inbox as I am right now!
We're starting to see posts to the lists as well. If all goes well and
stays well, we should be back to normal some time today.
Again, you should
Well, it looks like things are starting to move again. I have not seen
a test message I sent last night from an alternative address, however,
so I expect things are still some hours behind real-time. I'll have to
send another (to the OT list) to see if maybe some were lost.
In any case,
Dear Silver List friends,
Apparently, there was a mail-storm in some other user account at Eskimo
that loaded up the incoming mail queue, causing a significant slowing
of mail processing. It has been stopped and support is working to clear
the queue and get things running full speed again.
It
Just a further update, so you don't think you're crazy or we've all
dropped off the face of the earth:
The latest I've heard is that the main inbound mail server software
configuration is being rebuilt from backups so that it will work the
same as before the disk crash. Apparently the switch
Okay! I hope Ted and Tel have both vented their ire and will refrain
from further sniping. Let's let things drop, gents.
Mike Devour
silver-list owner
--- Ted Corbett miesenbac...@gmail.com wrote:
He's one of the few that care and is willing to go
the extra mile to help
folks
out.
Tel writes:
Nice commercial, seems to be the only one we ever see?
We all know there are dozens of CS generators on the
market, and Silver Puppy is near the bottom for value
and production. I sent one back !
Sorry, Tel, but I don't begrudge Ken the occasional comment on his own
product,
Hi all,
It appears that list operation is completely back to normal, finally.
As I understand the problem, a disk crashed and failed on the main
server for incoming mail, and the message stream was re-routed to a
backup server. Some messages in the queue at the time of the crash may
have been
Hi folks,
Got word that there was a crash of the main incoming mail server at
Eskimo causing mail not to get sent out to the lists. It sounds like
the mail all queued up and it will be a while before it all gets
delivered.
So, if you posted something and it didn't come through, be a little
Dear Friends,
Eskimo's system appears to be working normally again. It appears that
no mail into the system was bounced, but some mail that was queued may
have been lost. Since we haven't seen a glut of backed up mail come in,
it's likely that's the case.
I suggest you re-post your most
Okay, this is strange. Can anybody hear me? Can you respond?
If the list server's not responding, try direct to me.
It being so quiet, I wonder if there's still a problem for the
server receiving mail.
Thank you.
Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com
Boy, that reminds me of the Crock device.
Has anybody tried sleeping on a grounded surface?
Be well,
Mike D.
I stumbled across this last night.
Theres 2 audio interviews on this site you can listen
to.
http://www.sleepingearthed.com/index.html
Heres some of the stuff its suppose to
D.
- Original Message -
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: CSRosacea
Steve Y. writes:
I had it also. I tried pads soaked in CS on my face, and it helped
only a little. As a result
Welcome Barb! Thank you for asking.
EIS stands for Electrically Isolated Silver, a term that was originated
by a member of the group some time in the last few years in an attempt
to distinguish what we here *mean* when we talk about CS.
The term colloidal silver is so generic at this point
Steve Y. writes:
I had it also. I tried pads soaked in CS on my face, and it helped only
a little. As a result of a visit to a dermatologist, it went into
remission as I took small doses of a prescribed, inexpensive antibiotic.
I was able to taper the doses down each week, and eventually
Thanks Terry, Dave and Faithfrancis,
I already started my friend on the tongue soaking with CS and after only
1day there is a noticeable improvement. It seems to be disappearing.
That is in encouraging, Paula.
... How much should I mix with the CS, 10 or 20 percent?
I'm curious what
Dear Tim,
I just opened the page:
http://www.colloidal-silver.com/cancer.htm
Try again. It may open for you now as well. If not, e-mail me privately
and I can cut and paste the text and send it to you.
Be well,
Mike D.
mdev...@eskimo.com
I got your up-date where they were talking about
In this discussion of terminology, please remember that the original
poster was yet another member from the UK, where distilled water is
*NOT* readily available as it is here. Rather, our previous experience
is that their nearest equivalent is called by a different name and only
available (at
Dear Terry,
I have to figure out how to measure the approximate
ppm of silver he is brewing.
The key word here is 'approximate!' Weight of silver before minus
weight of silver after, divided by total gallons made. Close enough!
Or use the Faraday calculator and get an ammeter in line with
Notes to follow in reply...
Mike D.
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Mike D.
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Well, it looks like the list server is *NOT* going to allow me to have
a Subject line on that e-mail... Sorry for the duplicates.
For anybody reading this other than Terry, keep in mind:
This design is intended for use with ANIMALS, not human beings, using
just tap water, to make a low quality
Adding a couple of comments...
To add a window, you might replace the cap with a piece of 1/4
plexiglas acrylic sheet. It will bond with PVC cement just fine, I
believe. To make it more secure, use a coupling for joining two pieces
of pipe and cut the window to fit in the open socket, instead
Adding a couple of comments...
To add a window, you might replace the cap with a piece of 1/4
plexiglas acrylic sheet. It will bond with PVC cement just fine, I
believe. To make it more secure, use a coupling for joining two pieces
of pipe and cut the window to fit in the open socket,
Hi Wayne,
I think I've got you slightly confused, which is understandable the way
the topic has wandered among several threads.
My design is for a flow-through device, but it's set up for the water
the rancher uses for mixing the daily feed mash, not the distributed
watering system.
Terry
Wayne writes:
I would think, the higher the stream velocity, the higher your voltage
needs to be. ... I think we will be amazed at the velocity of the
stream.
Which is why it might be a good idea to build your chamber out of a
large diameter piece of pipe with reducing fittings at each end,
LOL Have you read my post on this? It looks like we've just checked
each other's math, Dan!
I didn't calculate the current. Glad it's in a reasonable range.
1 gallon = 3.78 litres
10 gallons = 37.8 litres = 37800 ml
6000 milliamps = 6 amps
1 minute
So, you would need 6 amps current to
Hi folks,
I just posted to the OT list asking some questions about heat lamps for
sauna use and aluminum metal for reflectors in the IR range. If you're
subscribed over there, please read and respond as you see fit.
If you're not on the OT list and you think you may be able to help,
send me a
Dear Dan,
You write:
I noticed you added a factor for electrode waste. I don't think that is
really necessary since with that kind of water flow all silver should go
into the water, and since it is to be mixed with food who knows what
sort of chemistry it will have - ions or particles, who
The web site doesn't give a lot of details about it, but it's not
exhorbitantly expensive compared to some things out there.
Some sort of sonic transducer swept from low to ultrasonic frequencies.
Also might be some pulsed IR LED features on some of their models.
http://www.vitafon.info/
Hi Terry,
I suppose if the water tested at 15 ppm before the unit was turned on,
then read 20 ppm after going through my setup, that would mean the extra
5 ppm was added silver. ??
It's a lot likelier to start at something like 347ppm and come out at
362ppm, Terry! Unless the dude is using
Hi Terry,
One obvious economy is to use 1 oz coins or ingots rather than wire.
They're available all over the place. You'd have to work out some kind
of connector or holder that would only allow silver to get into the
water.
For animal consumption, I'd imagine that doing it in tap water or
Carlos writes:
I got a Swiss Certified 99.9 Fine Silver 250 gram ingot, and I want to
have it melted and laminated into 8, 10 and 12 gauge (3.264, 2.588 and
2.053 mm ø) but I have to make I find a jeweler that can do this without
contaminating the silver with other metals (mostly gold alloys)
Oh Lordy! I realize now why that's so funny...
250 g... that's something like 8 ounces, 1/2 pound...
You're quite right. That is *MUCH* bigger than I was visualizing. LOL
Okay, you *may* want to have it re-cast, or maybe just rolled into a
slab or sheet? A rolling mill might be easier to
I wrote:
What are the approximate dimensions of this large ingot?
Oops! Never mind. I see you answered this already!
Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself... ]
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I believe I did this last time for you, Steve! grin
I've re-attached the smaller version of the file I created to allow it
to go through the list size limit filter.
It's the same resolution as the jpeg you sent (at 50k), but, because
it's only a black and white graphic, it's just as detailed in
Are you all about settled on the Urine Therapy subject?
I hope so, 'cause I'd like to see it tapering off now, please.
And, again, the Off Topic List is highly available if you're interested
in further discussing the subject. UT on OT? grin
Thank you, all.
Mike Devour
silver-list owner
[Mike
Hi gang!
Thank you for handling the present discussion so well, folks. It seems
to be a recurring topic anywhere we of the fringe gather. grin It
*is* a well established and proven modality regardless of *our*
conditioning. Some of the points made in the articles that were posted
make for an
Dear Mark,
Please calm down. Some of what you've said seems to contradict the
thrust of the various quotes you've posted, so I'm not sure I know what
you're trying to say. I think answering Craig Chamberlain's questions
would help us all understand what you mean.
Hello, virtually
Mining my archive for some tips for you...
Mike D.
--- Forwarded message follows ---
Date forwarded: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:22:24 -0700
Date sent: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 13:23:20 -0700
From: Ni Orsi annib...@earthlink.net
Send reply to:
More on CF, from a past member and dear friend of the group, Dameon
Likowski. We knew him for less than a year, but he taught us a lot.
Mike D.
--- Forwarded message follows ---
Date forwarded: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 03:48:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: likow...@earthlink.net
Lengthy post, but gives most of the things Dameon had figured out by
the time we knew him.
Someone needs to post something about the composition of WaterOZ. There
have been problems with argyria in users of that product, so finding an
alternative would be worthwhile, especially if the patient
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Copies to: M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net
Forwarded by: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:CSDAMEON UPDATE -- 10/9/98
Hello Silverados -
Well, it's been yet another near-death roller coaster ride! This time
was THE worst ever
Hi Wayne,
You series as many LED's as required to drop the voltage from the
supply. If you need more LED's than in one string, parallel more
strings...
The regulator keeps brightness constant anywhere above 8 or 9 volts
(low battery condition) and protects the LED's from overvoltage during
Dear George,
c/s , generating faster than i can use,, having fun, with a serious
product,,,
Glad you're having fun! smile
can c/s be used externally,, for fifty -ish, ailments,, sore
shoulders, maybe some slight arthritic pain.. normal aches and pains...
thanks to all from the newbie,
Thanks Dan, Marshall,
I want to build a couple of LED navigation lights for my sailboat, each
of which may require more than one series string of LED's to cover the
arc uniformly, thus my need for 20, 40, or 80 ma, depending...
Depending on the voltage drop of the LED's used, 3 or 4 per string
You should be on both lists, ma'am.
There've been about a dozen postings just in the last day or so. If you
haven't gotten them you might want to check out your junk mail folder
and your spam filters, if juno has such facilities.
Let me know if you need any additional help. I'm always
So, to drag the discussion a little OT, is there an easy tutorial or
design article about this FET current regulator somewhere? How do you
set the current level?
I need to prototype a 20/40/80 etc ma regulator to drive some LED's
for another project. :)
Mike D.
Didn't you guys read my
Guys, it's not that complicated!
Max ordered surface mount componenets by mistake when he was trying to
buy the familiar 2 terminal current regulating diodes in the standard
package that we've talked about here many times over the last several
years...
For some stupid reason these surface
Hi Max,
I think you've set yourself at a bit of a disadvantage without
realizing it. The easier way to go would have been to buy diodes with
leads rather than surface mount. You may want to return them (if the
vendor allows that) or write them off and order some with leads.
I've never done
Dear Gertrude,
You write:
I think people get so much radiation and scans more than the bom on
Nagasaki...how many can one person get and stay alive?
I believe the MRI is relatively safe. Magnetic pulses have been found
to be helpful for some things.
The CT scan, however, uses a LOT of
Yo, TJ, wrong list!! OT please...
Mike D.
Go to--
http://www.poodlecrap.com/Hateliars/HL_Video1.asp?Part=0
See the entire movie free Enjoy
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Dear George,
There are several processes that go on at once here. The technically
adept are always probing and questioning what we know. When they figure
out something new, they and others translate it into terms the rest of
us can understand so we can test it and report the results for
Steve, since you sent this to silver-list-request, I assume it was your
intention to send it along to the entire list.
I converted the attached JPEG to a black and white .gif, which is small
enough to sneak under the message size limit.
Thanks!
Mike D.
--- Forwarded message follows
The first question is: Are goats ruminants?
If therepeutic doses of CS would disrupt their gut function, it could
be traumatic and make matters worse.
Is there the equivalent to probiotics for goats?
Also, there is the Silver Pets list over at Yahoo. They are likelier to
have someone with
Hi everybody!
I thought that our members who are saddled with Comcast.net service,
which is still blocking mail from Eskimo's mailing list server, might
want to know that Eskimo is having a sale right now.
If you've got net access via cable or DSL through another provider,
then the minimum
Dear Al,
The only thing I can think to suggest is to contact the Huggins clinic
people in colorado springs and describe your situation, explain your
finances and ask them what they suggest. Maybe your case will be
bizarre enough in its own right to engage their curiosity. At least
you'll know
You shouldn't suppress your emotions like that, Nathan! It's bad for
your heart! You gotta let us know how you *really* feel! GRIN
Thank you, sir!
Peace,
Mike D.
yeah but dont get me wrong i am very happy in general
its just (oh no im getting started again) the hypocrisy that oozes from
Thank you, Rowena. That's a comforting message for us as a community,
and a fine example of strategy as well.
Be well,
Mike D.
Indeed, this is the place to speak up. Thanks to the people on this
group who have reported and exposed the salesmen who rubbish CS in
order to sell their product
Well said, Carlos. Thank you.
Mike D.
You wrote:
We are only victims of our own ignorance. The moment we start using our
intelligence and capacity to investigate and come to our own
conclusions, instead of blindly obeying what we are ordered to do,
things start to drastically change. We have
Appears that the invision people managed to get a sympathetic article
published on a metals investment site.
rs...@aol.com gave us:
http://news.silverseek.com/SilverSeek/1158085781.php
They have a section in their forums on health applications of silver.
If it plants the idea in a few more
Dear George,
I bet you sent this back to the list by mistake! grin
I understand your feelings, really. Lots of BS out there. Everything
from mystical to lunatic... to incredibly powerful and useful. And
nobody but ourselves to figure out which is which. sigh
Some of it works, and it's our job
Testing...
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself... ]
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There's a marketing spin to some of it, but a decent presentation of
many points. Obviously offers Invision's product as an archtype and
discourages home-made preparations, just for two examples of bias.
Their dosing recommendation is very conservative. Using their rule of
thumb, I'd want to
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