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Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman
Thanks Graham
That's a good tip--listen on listers with alky fired locos!!
Geoff.
Hi Geoff
On working for the tenderof my compound was confronted
4-6-0s; Loco Profile 3.
Now with Tony's info on the prototype Flying Scotsman; weight of the
engine only: 96 X 2240 plus 5 X112= 215600 hefty pounds. The cube is
6.58lbs while the The model engine weighs 4.1KG or 9lbs. Much the same
ratio as the King--actually a little closer to the prototype
I think Myrna was a Loy, not a Lloyd..at least that's what I've been
told, not being as experienced as Geoff
Link's associate
, old man, I wrote KGV!!- (NOTE! ;-) the approx weight is 78 tons
(with water and coal in the firebox) and comes from a very comprehensive
manual I have on Great Western 4 cyl 4-6-0s; Loco Profile 3.
Now with Tony's info on the prototype Flying Scotsman; weight of the
engine only: 96 X 2240 plus 5
Yep Tony and Lunks Associate,
I know-I was in love with Myrna Loy when I was 11--kept the Players
cigarette card with her visage by my bedside and would look at her by
candle light. Unfortunately, I lost the card playing that flicking game
with school chums. Lost my train cards the same
Hi Geoff,
Hang onto your Players and Woodbine cigarette cards. I was looking at
some framed sets offered at a Yosemite Lodge a few weeks ago for between
$350- $700 per Frame of 25 cards.
So scouted all my unpacked boxes in my garage, and found a 5 sets.
There now with my steamup
Geoff,
You are correct as always. The volumes and weights should scale by the cube
(or cube root).
How heavy is your 1/32 Flying Scotsman?
Possible causes of being heavier:
1. Denser materials in model than in prototype
2. Proportionately thicker sections in model than in prototype
is 78 tons
(with water and coal in the firebox) and comes from a very comprehensive
manual I have on Great Western 4 cyl 4-6-0s; Loco Profile 3.
Now with Tony's info on the prototype Flying Scotsman; weight of the
engine only: 96 X 2240 plus 5 X112= 215600 hefty pounds. The cube is
6.58lbs while
At 12:22 PM 9/19/02 -0700, you wrote:
If our model weights were more to scale and therefore flimsier, my train
wrecks would be more prototypical!!
Geoff old bean,
I would venture to suggest that if our model material THICKNESSES
were to scale then your wrecks might be more prototypical.
Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman scale weight
At 12:22 PM 9/19/02 -0700, you wrote:
If our model weights were more to scale and therefore flimsier, my train
wrecks would be more prototypical!!
Geoff old bean,
I would venture to suggest that if our model material THICKNESSES
were to scale
pipe
would be 2 thick at full scale. That would be a heavy boiler.
Steve
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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:35 PM
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At 12:22 PM 9/19/02 -0700
for the barn and pretend to tinker with the latest loco
project.
Take care.
Steve
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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:26 PM
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Subject: RE: Flying Scotsman scale weight
Right Arry and Steve
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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: Flying Scotsman scale weight
Geoff,
And I seem to remember from model yacht design that the specific gravity,
density, and surface tension of water don't scale at all, which I am sure
=
hic! = That formula proves the Flying Scotsman can answer Arthur's
following question: Was there ever a steam locomotive that was supposed
to run 7.5 hours without stopping for some reason or another and the
engineer did not say filler up. The most important factor in the
equation being the P
Hi Geoff,
You are correct, again.
Maybe only one of Alan Grubsan's screws which was not fully tightened.
Keep us posted.
Liked your birthday prose for Dave, and agree.
Regards,
Tony D.
At 07:08 PM 8/23/02 -0700, Geoff Spenceley wrote:
Round Four!
I didn't read the instructions to do this!!
Hi Geoff,
I guess we beat you with a Flying Scotsman inorgeral run at my
steamup in Livermore last Saturday. Mike McKenna brought his brand new
acquisition over barely unwrapped, and ran it for approx 30+ minutes, on
track, under full steam with no problems. Ran really well, sounded great
Hi Tony,
I had to check the spelling too!!
Re the A3--Part of the cab roof does remove and I haven't experinced a
problem reaching the controls--altho I will eventually change the blower
wheel to a lever--it's from the Stirling, obviously, and a bit fiddly and
delicate. Right, it is buried a
Hi Geoff,
I guess we beat you with a Flying Scotsman inorgeral run at my
steamup in Livermore last Saturday. Mike McKenna brought his brand new
acquisition over barely unwrapped, and ran it for approx 30+ minutes, on
track, under full steam with no problems. Ran really well, sounded
good on
paint. However nothing matches Tom Cooper's Merlins!! Baked enamel??
One day--one day--I'll make one of your steamups!
Geoff
Hi Geoff,
I guess we beat you with a Flying Scotsman inorgeral run at my
steamup in Livermore last Saturday. Mike McKenna brought his brand new
acquisition
Art,
Yes its a JVR type C 2 off 1/2 inch tubes..I think it might be the
fairly large smokebox volume and the choke of the petticoat looks larger
than some other Asters Ive run. whatever it works!
Gordon.
Geoff,
if you think it looks pretty, wait till you hear it! it can be
heard 50 yards away, a loud, cracking, 3 cylinder beat. I have never heard
any thing like it from a Gauge 1 loco..we had a little run day last
Saturday, it had to haul a LNWR train[not much LNER coaches here in OZ] but
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Subject: Flying Scotsman
Geoff,
if you think it looks pretty, wait till you hear it! it can be
heard 50 yards away
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Subject: Flying Scotsman
Geoff,
if you think it looks pretty, wait till you hear it! it can be
heard 50 yards away, a loud, cracking, 3 cylinder beat. I have never heard
any thing like it from a Gauge 1 loco.
I wonder why this is - the 'loud
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Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman
Thanks Gordon and Sir Art et al,
So the beat goes on!! I air tested mine and it's better in reverse which
is
very smooth but forward is not quite as good--it should
to get the full effect .
Good steaming .
Graham .S.
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Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 6:09 AM
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From
Dave et al,
For those of us who are old and mentally challenged (like me) and who are
blessed with a very thrifty and understanding wife (like me), or who are
just plain rich (not like me )--The Aster A3 arrived today!! Thanks to my
dealer and the promptness of the distributor--Jerry H and
At 1:53 PM -0700 8/16/02, Geoff Spenceley wrote:
I apologise to NG ers--I love those scales too--and MUCH BETTER for the
pocket book! All three of my local steamers friends are NG--Like Larry
Buerer--a lister also--and Kevin Schindler whose pics always clutter up the
Summer steamups--Pleasanton
Thanks Graham
That's a good tip--listen on listers with alky fired locos!!
Geoff.
Hi Geoff
On working for the tenderof my compound was confronted with a lack of
space for the tee pc for the combination gravity pump feed line .
Got the misses to knit another thinking cap and it seems to
to you sometime .
Regards.
Graham.
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From: Geoff Spenceley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman
Hi Graham,
Perhaps the vent tube
as Aster .
Regards
Graham S .
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From: Geoff Spenceley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman
I may have the Aug 99 Steam World-I shall check my archives
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Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman
Hallo Graham and Tony D.
Blast it, my Steam Worlds only go back to the beginning of 2000 so I
don't
have issue146 dated august1999
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Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman
Hallo Graham and Tony D.
Blast it, my Steam Worlds only go back to the beginning of 2000 so I
don't
have issue146 dated august1999 with the article you mention. --so sorry.
My friend
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Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman
Hi Graham,
Perhaps the vent tube in the alcohol tank of the tender is not the right
length,(too high in the sump?) flooding the wicks--but why would it then
stop feeding?--Hmm--Find the Missus
In a message dated 8/8/02 10:21:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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Has any member thought of making a small boxcar for the Ruby containing a
larger gas tank / a R/C receiver for throttle and a small water pump mounted
in a water tank.
Obvious that you have not seen the
Here is a pic of him and his locomotive:
http://www.geocities.com/cgnr.geo/rrr3.jpg
Bob
, 2002 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman
Here is a pic of him and his locomotive:
http://www.geocities.com/cgnr.geo/rrr3.jpg
Bob
Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman
What I wanna know is, Where did he get that HAT!
Anybody know where I can get a Conductor's Hat (size very large!)?
Thanks
Michael
Florida
USA
Iron Nut
?- I'm the only drip around here!
More info when I get the loco and more pints!
Stay with it List! Wonder how many are getting the Flying Scotsman and
are
there any comments--especially from you Brits or Aussies? who may
already
have them up and steaming? I realise many of you have kits--I'm
S.
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From: Geoff Spenceley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman
Tony et al,
No wonder I have been unable to thin Aster paint! Isn't Trichlorethylene
used
Geoff:
I also hear that it is an excellent model with features Aster has not
incorporated in previous models.
Pray, tell us what new features, oh infirmed one.
Jim
Tony, you wrote, and I thankyou
As far as I am concerned, you can mention anything!.
Was very good to see you at Pleasanton and chat. Albeit too briefy.
Now if you had visited me on Monday, things would have been far different.
Tony D. ( I agree--I still dream of your Duchess and
Hi Geoff,
I knew we could twist the info from you sooner than later, and it did
not cost us a pint!.
Are you losing your touch?.
Scotsman:-
Details sound good. Especially if they copied the sight
glass/pressure gauge (gage) layout from my Duchess!. I also have a firebox
the Flying Scotsman and are
there any comments--especially from you Brits or Aussies? who may already
have them up and steaming? I realise many of you have kits--I'm deviating
this time and getting the built-up. It had better steam as well as my
kits!! Ho, Ho, you say
Geoff.
are getting the Flying Scotsman and are
there any comments--especially from you Brits or Aussies? who may already
have them up and steaming? I realise many of you have kits--I'm deviating
this time and getting the built-up. It had better steam as well as my
kits!! Ho, Ho, you say
Geoff.
What's the Buzz, tell me what's happening, What's the Buzz. Tell---
From my favourite musical!
Anyone know when the Flying Scotsman will be delivered to purchasers in the
US. Are they held in the hands of Hans??? We are all at his mercy.
Ancient, impatient Old Geoff.
PS. I'm steaming my 3/4
At 04:43 PM 7/30/02 -0700, you wrote:
Anyone know when the Flying Scotsman will be delivered
I hear whispers they're on the boat.
hw
Thanks 'Arry,
I also hear that it is an excellent model with features Aster has not
incorporated in previous models.
Ancient infirm--whoops!- informed Geoff.
At 04:43 PM 7/30/02 -0700, you wrote:
Anyone know when the Flying Scotsman will be delivered
I hear whispers they're on the boat
They are on sale in Australia
Jim G.
At 06:50 PM 7/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
At 04:43 PM 7/30/02 -0700, you wrote:
Anyone know when the Flying Scotsman will be delivered
I hear whispers they're on the boat.
hw
Hi Olde Buddee;
I won't tell a soul.
Phil
What's the Buzz, tell me what's happening, What's the Buzz. Tell---
From my favourite musical!
Anyone know when the Flying Scotsman will be delivered to purchasers in
the
US. Are they held in the hands of Hans??? We are all at his mercy
Sure, not so far for the boat to go!! Believe they are on sale in the UK
too. Must be the hands of Hans, he's not rowing fast enough!!.
Geoff.
They are on sale in Australia
Jim G.
At 06:50 PM 7/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
At 04:43 PM 7/30/02 -0700, you wrote:
Anyone know when the Flying
, tell me what's happening, What's the Buzz. Tell---
From my favourite musical!
Anyone know when the Flying Scotsman will be delivered to purchasers in the
US. Are they held in the hands of Hans??? We are all at his mercy.
Ancient, impatient Old Geoff.
PS. I'm steaming my 3/4 Britannia tomorrow
.
At 06:28 PM 7/30/02 -0700, Geoff Spenceley wrote:
Thanks 'Arry,
I also hear that it is an excellent model with features Aster has not
incorporated in previous models.
Ancient infirm--whoops!- informed Geoff.
At 04:43 PM 7/30/02 -0700, you wrote:
Anyone know when the Flying Scotsman
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